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awtysst
03-11-2010, 07:49 PM
So, I have been unable to make a proper mock, so I decided to do a quick Cherry pick of Walter. Since Walter is only doing 43 rounds thus far, I added on 5-7 just to round it out. I used projective rounds established by Walters for these picks.

What I will do is present who Walters chose and then make my choice. As usual, I will give some explanation about my choice as well. For the sake of simplicity, 1W will refer to first round Walters pick and 1A, refers to first round awtysst's pick.

1W: Earl Thomas, FS Texas
1A: Earl Thomas, FS Texas

I cannot improve this pick. Though CB Kyle Wilson is tempting, I see Thomas as too good of a prospect to pass on. I do not think he will really be here, but if he manages to be, I think we gotta take him. He represents an upgrade to our DB and has incredible ball hawking range. Impact starter.

2W: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
2A: Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest

Do not like the Dwyer pick. He comes across as a potentially bad fdit for our system. For some reason I also see a "looks like tarzan, plays like jane" feeling when I look at his tape. I hope I am wrong, but he has potential bust written all over him. In contrast I pick up a very good CB. He is a big strong guy who can play solid man or zone coverage. He has good tackling ability and is not afraid to take any shots. He would be a starter opposite Glover.

3W:Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
3A:Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas

I have no real issue with Robinson, its just that I already took Ghee. Plus, I have the potential to take a great DT with this pick. Remember what we are looking for in terms of a DT. We need a guy who can penetrate, not a big blobby 3-4 NT that stops the run. Houston showed some amazing DT work as a pentrator. He would be a perfect compliment to the run stopping Okoye.

4W:Mike Neal, DT, Purdue
4A: Javier Arenas, CB/KR, Alabama

This was a tough one, as I liked both players. I ultimately went with Arenas becuase I see him as more useful. He would contribute right away on Special teams and be our return specialist. Neal would be an addition to the DT rotation of Houston, Smith, and Zygonia. I liked both players and think both would be great.

5. Joique Bell, RB Wayne State
A solid runner. I need to see more tape on him though. I did not see any of his tape and 1 source claims he is a dancer and another says he is a guy who finds the hole and goes through. If he is the later, I take him, if not, I wont. That said he is a reasonably sized (212lbs) back.

6. Ted Larsen, C North Carolina St.
A very underated Center that could be our starter of the future. He is a bigger Center(about 315 lbs) but he has great feet and can get to the second level. He is a smart guy and would need a little time to learn the system. Once he did, he would anchor the Oline for years.

6. Thomas Austin, OG/C Clemson
A versatile OG/C for depth. He is another of the bigger OGs with good feet that I like to get for the ZBS. He would compete as backup and would give us the ability to eventually get rid of Studdard and Myers.

7. Javarris James RB Miami
A guy that has a lot to prove. He had a lot of expectations that never materialized at the U. One problem he had was consistency. He needs to get himself focused. If he does, he has 3rd round talent. I think this is an excellent value pick.

stingray
03-11-2010, 11:21 PM
I thought that Dwyer was a one cut runner? Isn't that what Kubiak wants?

Blake
03-12-2010, 08:49 AM
I thought that Dwyer was a one cut runner? Isn't that what Kubiak wants?

I think he would work in our system. The only reason I can see us passing on him is his lack of pass catching ability.

HOU-TEX
03-12-2010, 10:39 AM
So, I have been unable to make a proper mock, so I decided to do a quick Cherry pick of Walter. Since Walter is only doing 43 rounds thus far, I added on 5-7 just to round it out. I used projective rounds established by Walters for these picks.

What I will do is present who Walters chose and then make my choice. As usual, I will give some explanation about my choice as well. For the sake of simplicity, 1W will refer to first round Walters pick and 1A, refers to first round awtysst's pick.

1W: Earl Thomas, FS Texas
1A: Earl Thomas, FS Texas

I cannot improve this pick. Though CB Kyle Wilson is tempting, I see Thomas as too good of a prospect to pass on. I do not think he will really be here, but if he manages to be, I think we gotta take him. He represents an upgrade to our DB and has incredible ball hawking range. Impact starter.

2W: Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
2A: Brandon Ghee, CB, Wake Forest

Do not like the Dwyer pick. He comes across as a potentially bad fdit for our system. For some reason I also see a "looks like tarzan, plays like jane" feeling when I look at his tape. I hope I am wrong, but he has potential bust written all over him. In contrast I pick up a very good CB. He is a big strong guy who can play solid man or zone coverage. He has good tackling ability and is not afraid to take any shots. He would be a starter opposite Glover.

3W:Patrick Robinson, CB, Florida State
3A:Lamarr Houston, DT, Texas

I have no real issue with Robinson, its just that I already took Ghee. Plus, I have the potential to take a great DT with this pick. Remember what we are looking for in terms of a DT. We need a guy who can penetrate, not a big blobby 3-4 NT that stops the run. Houston showed some amazing DT work as a pentrator. He would be a perfect compliment to the run stopping Okoye.

4W:Mike Neal, DT, Purdue
4A: Javier Arenas, CB/KR, Alabama

This was a tough one, as I liked both players. I ultimately went with Arenas becuase I see him as more useful. He would contribute right away on Special teams and be our return specialist. Neal would be an addition to the DT rotation of Houston, Smith, and Zygonia. I liked both players and think both would be great.

5. Joique Bell, RB Wayne State
A solid runner. I need to see more tape on him though. I did not see any of his tape and 1 source claims he is a dancer and another says he is a guy who finds the hole and goes through. If he is the later, I take him, if not, I wont. That said he is a reasonably sized (212lbs) back.

6. Ted Larsen, C North Carolina St.
A very underated Center that could be our starter of the future. He is a bigger Center(about 315 lbs) but he has great feet and can get to the second level. He is a smart guy and would need a little time to learn the system. Once he did, he would anchor the Oline for years.

6. Thomas Austin, OG/C Clemson
A versatile OG/C for depth. He is another of the bigger OGs with good feet that I like to get for the ZBS. He would compete as backup and would give us the ability to eventually get rid of Studdard and Myers.

7. Javarris James RB Miami
A guy that has a lot to prove. He had a lot of expectations that never materialized at the U. One problem he had was consistency. He needs to get himself focused. If he does, he has 3rd round talent. I think this is an excellent value pick.

I'd take your draft over Walters in this scenario.

Do you really think Robinson will be available in the 3rd? If so, I must be way off-base on him. I've got him somewhere in the top half of the 2nd. :hmmm:

badboy
03-12-2010, 10:41 AM
I agree with most of your comments but have different guys. I want a running back much sooner than you. I was interested in Bell early on but has done nothing since to encourage me.

badboy
03-12-2010, 10:43 AM
I'd take your draft over Walters in this scenario.

Do you really think Robinson will be available in the 3rd? If so, I must be way off-base on him. I've got him somewhere in the top half of the 2nd. :hmmm:Hou-TEX, you have rated about where he will go but Walter is correct on where he should go. IMO. I do not have him on my mock.

threetoedpete
03-26-2010, 04:08 PM
I think he would work in our system. The only reason I can see us passing on him is his lack of pass catching ability.

The problem with Dywer is that nobody knows what he is. He played fullback in college sort of a hybred in their offensive attack. Very productive obviously. He wasn't asked to catch a lot of balls something we must do because of the substitute for a rushing attack. So I'm not saying he couldn't be an option but I highly doubt with his contract on the line Gary Kubiak will be going too far a'feild with a running back. Especially not with a second round pick with little experience. He hasn't got time to develop one. One cut and go. that's it.

5. Joique Bell, RB Wayne State, that one is much more likely. 'Course we said the same thing last year. they passed them all up.

steelbtexan
03-26-2010, 10:54 PM
The problem with Dywer is that nobody knows what he is. He played fullback in college sort of a hybred in their offensive attack. Very productive obviously. He wasn't asked to catch a lot of balls something we must do because of the substitute for a rushing attack. So I'm not saying he couldn't be an option but I highly doubt with his contract on the line Gary Kubiak will be going too far a'feild with a running back. Especially not with a second round pick with little experience. He hasn't got time to develop one. One cut and go. that's it.

5. Joique Bell, RB Wayne State, that one is much more likely. 'Course we said the same thing last year. they passed them all up.

Bet smithiak draft a RB by the 2nd or 3rd this year.

A draft like this wouldn't bother me at all.

Rd.1 Wilson
Rd.2 Tate
Rd.3 Newhouse
Rd.4 Myron Lewis

The running game and secondary that were the major things that wrong with the team IMHO are fixed.

You can spend the rest of the draft geting the space eater DT, another RB.