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rmartin65
02-26-2010, 07:13 PM
I was thinking we could put the information we get from the combine into one thread, make it easier for everyone. In this thread we could discuss measurements and player interviews, especially those pertaining to the Texans.

There is a rumor that TCU's Marshall Newhouse has met with the Texans.

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Health-of-Gronkowski-Gresham-on-center-stage.html

Here is NFL.com's combine center http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press

Look at Petrus, damn!

Corrosion
02-26-2010, 07:26 PM
Might want to sticky this thing :tiphat:

Wolf6151
02-26-2010, 10:01 PM
Mitch Petrus, 45 reps on the bench press, very impressive. He's got good size as well. If he does well in the agility drills then I'd like the Texans to take him in the 2nd or 3rd.

rmartin65
02-26-2010, 10:18 PM
Mitch Petrus, 45 reps on the bench press, very impressive. He's got good size as well. If he does well in the agility drills then I'd like the Texans to take him in the 2nd or 3rd.

Thats the thing- Petrus is supposed to be among the most athletic of all the linemen. And I see it when watching film, he is very fluid. I believe he even played FB at one point? That would be an interesting short yardage formation.

painekiller
02-27-2010, 12:55 PM
Petrus keeps moving up the amatures scouts list. He went from a 4th rounder to now 2nd rounder. I think the pro scouts already had him pegged. :spin:

I am already tired of the coverage done by the NFLnetwork, I am tired of Tebow. Stop talking about a weak class of QBs. Discuss the deep areas of the draft for once.

rmartin65
02-27-2010, 01:11 PM
Holliday ran much slower than I expected, a 4.34 per NFL.com.

Corrosion
02-27-2010, 01:22 PM
Petrus keeps moving up the amatures scouts list. He went from a 4th rounder to now 2nd rounder. I think the pro scouts already had him pegged. :spin:

I am already tired of the coverage done by the NFLnetwork, I am tired of Tebow. Stop talking about a weak class of QBs. Discuss the deep areas of the draft for once.

They wanna talk about the sizzle , not the steak .... Thats where their $$$ is. Stars that they can market.

JB
02-27-2010, 01:31 PM
Holliday ran much slower than I expected, a 4.34 per NFL.com.


Schefter reporting he ran a 4.22

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

An OT Bruce Campbell ran a blistering 4.78
Fastest ever by an OL

Wow!

rmartin65
02-27-2010, 01:37 PM
Schefter reporting he ran a 4.22

http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter

An OT Bruce Campbell ran a blistering 4.78
Fastest ever by an OL

Wow!

Hmm, Schefter is reporting faster times than NFL.com. Campbell is going to the Raiders now, no doubt. Holliday, depending on his agility drills, could be a fifth round pick.

JB
02-27-2010, 01:46 PM
Hmm, Schefter is reporting faster times than NFL.com. Campbell is going to the Raiders now, no doubt. Holliday, depending on his agility drills, could be a fifth round pick.

Yeah, I imagine he is reporting what one scout clocked him at. NFL.com is reporting what they believe to be the official times. But I dont think they become official for a few days.

But then again ?

threetoedpete
02-27-2010, 02:45 PM
Fell a sleep. Pretty impressive a 311 pound OT moving the forty yard dash @ 4.78. Bruce Campbell made himself some money to day. He was great in all of the drills. The only question about him is why doesn't the game tape match the numbers of the combine drills ? This kind of a big man with that athleticism should be rolling people up at the LOS.

A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.

Newhouse ran a great time. 5.07. All of these are unofficial. Watch the way they can run the forty. You can pretty much pick out the athletes from the bag of bolts and washers. The Kid from Abilene Christian, Washington had an incredible broad jump. Good indication of explosive hips. .

Pouncey had the numbers which match his college production. Pretty safe pick in any round. Looks powerful. runs with grace. He's a great Athlete, and a great Guard prospect.

Great group of TE's. No excuse for a club with a young QB not to grab one of these guys in the first three or four rounds. good thing that Kubes isn't there. Every shape and every size. Some great combo's of blocker-receiver. Some great blocking prospects with soft hands. Some Match up nightmares. Garret Graham of Wisconsin reminds me a lot of Joel Dreisen. Jimmy Graham looks like a good guy to grab in the last half of the draft.... fold him onto the practice squad and see what you have in 2012. He has the hands and workout numbers which suggest if he really wants it, he could be something special. He's going to be rawer than Jacoby Jones starting out. Which is why you could get him pretty cheap. With very few exceptions, all of them were good. You gotta figure after double dipping last year the odds are we won't bite at the tight end position this draft.

Hernandez of Fla. and the Arizona guy who looks like a beefed up Johnny Weissmuller chose to work out at their pro days. DNP.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/rob-gronkowski?id=497240
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Weissmuller

rmartin65
02-27-2010, 05:12 PM
Holliday is tearing it up. 42" vertical and a 9'8" broad jump.

EDIT: And a 6.54 cone drill, he easily has the agility to be a returner in the pros.

IDEXAN
02-27-2010, 05:19 PM
Holliday ran much slower than I expected, a 4.34 per NFL.com.
He automatically becomes the fastest man in the NFL when he gets there.
He won the SEC 100 as a freshman and finished second in the NCAA 100.
The guy ran a virtual 10 flat (10.02). He and Jamaal Charles are both faster than Chris Johnson.

Texan4Ever
02-27-2010, 05:26 PM
Marshall Newhouse would be a nice replacement for Chester Pitts, he has the size (6'3" 325-lbs) and did well at the combine IMO. Holliday would be a good pick, only if he was a bit taller!

Lucky
02-27-2010, 10:46 PM
Bruce Campbell made himself some money to day. He was great in all of the drills. The only question about him is why doesn't the game tape match the numbers of the combine drills ?
Because offensive tackles aren't asked to run 40 yards much. If ever.

beerlover
02-27-2010, 11:22 PM
Fell a sleep. Pretty impressive a 311 pound OT moving the forty yard dash @ 4.78. Bruce Campbell made himself some money to day. He was great in all of the drills. The only question about him is why doesn't the game tape match the numbers of the combine drills ? This kind of a big man with that athleticism should be rolling people up at the LOS.

A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.

Newhouse ran a great time. 5.07. All of these are unofficial. Watch the way they can run the forty. You can pretty much pick out the athletes from the bag of bolts and washers. The Kid from Abilene Christian, Washington had an incredible broad jump. Good indication of explosive hips. .

Pouncey had the numbers which match his college production. Pretty safe pick in any round. Looks powerful. runs with grace. He's a great Athlete, and a great Guard prospect.

Great group of TE's. No excuse for a club with a young QB not to grab one of these guys in the first three or four rounds. good thing that Kubes isn't there. Every shape and every size. Some great combo's of blocker-receiver. Some great blocking prospects with soft hands. Some Match up nightmares. Garret Graham of Wisconsin reminds me a lot of Joel Dreisen. Jimmy Graham looks like a good guy to grab in the last half of the draft.... fold him onto the practice squad and see what you have in 2012. He has the hands and workout numbers which suggest if he really wants it, he could be something special. He's going to be rawer than Jacoby Jones starting out. Which is why you could get him pretty cheap. With very few exceptions, all of them were good. You gotta figure after double dipping last year the odds are we won't bite at the tight end position this draft.

Hernandez of Fla. and the Arizona guy who looks like a beefed up Johnny Weissmuller chose to work out at their pro days. DNP.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/rob-gronkowski?id=497240
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Weissmuller

Campbell reminded me of Jason Smith last year, anyway how did he do as a rookie in St. Louis? oh yeah the Rams are picking #1 now instead of #2. regardless very impressive, think it was mentioned had played in only 17 games. very raw but gifted.

The Pencil Neck
02-28-2010, 03:36 AM
Campbell reminded me of Jason Smith last year, anyway how did he do as a rookie in St. Louis? oh yeah the Rams are picking #1 now instead of #2. regardless very impressive, think it was mentioned had played in only 17 games. very raw but gifted.

Yeah, his thing is his inexperience. He tried to make it sound like a positive. No bad habits to unlearn, blah blah blah. :)

It's going to be interesting to see how he develops.

threetoedpete
02-28-2010, 07:49 AM
Because offensive tackles aren't asked to run 40 yards much. If ever.

Yeah well you can tell that to Ulatoski and his pedestrian 5.45. The only thing he'll be buying next year is a whistle. As close as he'll get to a playing field next fall will be coaching the highschool lads. Same goes for eveyones darlin' in Here Mike Johnson. Told ya!
5.38 is laughable in the ZBS. Even for a guard. Don't know what the Texans could do with him. Dress him up let him watch the door on Kirby, I suppose.

threetoedpete
02-28-2010, 08:01 AM
So you've got a 226 pound TE. 6'4" and he posts a 4.66...i.e almost as fast as
Jerry Rice when he came out. Is that there thing a really quick TE. Or a very big and Quick #2 wide reciever ? Look at his hand size. Raw like Jacoby was when he came out.Don't think he was asked to block a lot at Pittsburg. But someone looking for a little versatility will get a woody for the guy. He's got to want to block. some guy like it . Some guys don't. Until he proves he can block with vim & vinegar, he's just a shinny H-back. Nothing more. If he learns to block he becomes elite.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dorin-dickerson?id=497222

And the poundster, Maurice Pouncey, is only three oh five boys. No different than what we already have on the squad.

Texan4Ever
02-28-2010, 11:15 AM
Greg Knapp live on NFL Combine: http://www.nfl.com/combine.

kiwitexansfan
02-28-2010, 11:18 AM
A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.

Well, if we target him I expect we are looking at him as a guard so, the speed shouldn't bother us and might make him last a little longer down to us at 20.

If he was screaming "I'm a LT" he'd be gone well before we get the option to take him.

Texan4Ever
02-28-2010, 11:25 AM
The guy from Hillsdale College, Jared Veldheer, did really well in the combine, would make a good left/right tackle. 6'8" 312-lbs with a 33-inch arm.

Mailman
02-28-2010, 12:05 PM
Whoa, Golden Tate is fast.

4.36 in the dash.

Lucky
02-28-2010, 12:18 PM
5.38 is laughable in the ZBS. Even for a guard. Don't know what the Texans could do with him. Dress him up let him watch the door on Kirby, I suppose.


A little disappointed in Iupatis' forty. 5.26 is good , but it isn't OLT speed. He looked natural running it. You could see he was gaining speed with every step.
So 12 hundreths of a second over 40 yards can determine whether one player can block for the Texans and another one can't?

bah007
02-28-2010, 12:42 PM
So you've got a 226 pound TE. 6'4" and he posts a 4.66...i.e almost as fast as
Jerry Rice when he came out. Is that there thing a really quick TE. Or a very big and Quick #2 wide reciever ? Look at his hand size. Raw like Jacoby was when he came out.Don't think he was asked to block a lot at Pittsburg. But someone looking for a little versatility will get a woody for the guy. He's got to want to block. some guy like it . Some guys don't. Until he proves he can block with vim & vinegar, he's just a shinny H-back. Nothing more. If he learns to block he becomes elite.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/dorin-dickerson?id=497222

And the poundster, Maurice Pouncey, is only three oh five boys. No different than what we already have on the squad.

They let Dickerson try out WR at the Senior Bowl and he didn't do too well. Not a good enough blocker to play TE so I think we're looking at a H Back.

Ryan
02-28-2010, 12:56 PM
There's another Jacoby in this combine that ran a 4.28...pretty impressive.

JWarren14
02-28-2010, 02:31 PM
CJ Spiller 4.28

rollinstone18
02-28-2010, 03:04 PM
CJ Spiller 4.28

no way he falls to us now.

Texan4Ever
02-28-2010, 03:20 PM
For once I think the Raiders well make a good draft pick if they take Bruce Campbell, offensive tackle from Maryland.

As for CJ Spiller, he may be gone but we can draft Javid Best in the 2nd (but we may have to move up in the 2nd to get him).

rmartin65
02-28-2010, 03:27 PM
No to Best, please! Best is an injury waiting to happen, with less skills than Reggie Bush. He wont be able to run inside for shit. He is not the dangerous returner that Bush is. He is basically a slower Bush with less potential and more injury concerns.

bah007
02-28-2010, 03:34 PM
For once I think the Raiders well make a good draft pick if they take Bruce Campbell, offensive tackle from Maryland.

As for CJ Spiller, he may be gone but we can draft Javid Best in the 2nd (but we may have to move up in the 2nd to get him).

Campbell would be the same kind of pick that the Raiders always make. He looks fantastic in shorts but he doesn't play up to his athletic ability. Just look at his tape.

Honoring Earl 34
02-28-2010, 03:41 PM
No to Best, please! Best is an injury waiting to happen, with less skills than Reggie Bush. He wont be able to run inside for shit. He is not the dangerous returner that Bush is. He is basically a slower Bush with less potential and more injury concerns.

What about one of the SEC guys falling to the 4th ?

Right now I would love to trade back . I'm not sure of the point thing but our 1st for a 2nd and 3rd .

2A Kyle Wilson CB
2B Nate Allen FS
3A Roger Saffold G
3B Ben Tate , Hardesty, or Dixon ... Dixon is a big guy with good feet .

JB
02-28-2010, 03:46 PM
CJ Spiller 4.28

Official time of 4.37
Best with 4.35
Tate with 4.43

bah007
02-28-2010, 04:23 PM
Official time of 4.37
Best with 4.35
Tate with 4.43

What is really funny is that there has only been about three of us on Tate's bandwagon, but with his performance at the combine now everybody is gonna come out and say that they have been a fan of his all along.

nero THE zero
02-28-2010, 04:23 PM
Hardesty killing it at the combine:

40 yard dash - 4.49
Bench press - 21
Vertical Jump - 41" (1st)
Broad Jump - 10'4" (1st)

mariowillshine15
02-28-2010, 04:24 PM
Ive read Spiller at 4.27. Dude is wicked fast.

Ryan Matthews ran 4.41 which is good for a big back.

WR Golden Tate is the big winner today. People questioned his speed and his 4.36 will no doubt move him up.

bah007
02-28-2010, 04:26 PM
Ive read Spiller at 4.27. Dude is wicked fast.

Ryan Matthews ran 4.41 which is good for a big back.

WR Golden Tate is the big winner today. People questioned his speed and his 4.36 will no doubt move him up.

Those are all unofficial hand times.

The official times I have seen are:
Spiller - 4.37
Mathews - 4.53
Golden Tate - 4.42

nero THE zero
02-28-2010, 04:29 PM
Those are all unofficial hand times.

The official times I have seen are:
Spiller - 4.37
Mathews - 4.53
Golden Tate - 4.42

Matthews' official (http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers) is 4.45

LonerATO
02-28-2010, 04:30 PM
The guy from Hillsdale College, Jared Veldheer, did really well in the combine, would make a good left/right tackle. 6'8" 312-lbs with a 33-inch arm.

I like him as a later 3rd-4th rd guy that could be developed

bah007
02-28-2010, 04:34 PM
Matthews' official (http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers) is 4.45

Oops you're right. For some reason I wrote down Lonyae Miller's time. Thanks.

steelbtexan
02-28-2010, 04:38 PM
Hardesty killing it at the combine:

40 yard dash - 4.49
Bench press - 21
Vertical Jump - 41" (1st)
Broad Jump - 10'4" (1st)

My guy tore it up.

I like Tate alot too. Gerhart proved alot today also.

The guys I like during the season always move up a rd or 2. (Newhouse,Hardesty,Tate and D.Williams for example.)

mariowillshine15
02-28-2010, 04:38 PM
Oops you're right. For some reason I wrote down Lonyae Miller's time. Thanks.

So after seeing the times which running backs is everybody smitten with right now?

Ive always liked Spiller but i doubt he falls to 20.

Ryan Matthews is really impressive. To have that size and can run away from defenses.

From what ive seen of him in games and now his 40 i think he'd be great in the 2nd.

Honoring Earl 34
02-28-2010, 04:39 PM
So after seeing the times which running backs is everybody smitten with right now?

Ive always liked Spiller but i doubt he falls to 20.

Ryan Matthews is really impressive. To have that size and can run away from defenses.

From what ive seen of him in games and now his 40 i think he'd be great in the 2nd.

I think Mathews will be a Charger in the 1st .

LonerATO
02-28-2010, 04:42 PM
I think Mathews will be a Charger in the 1st .

I agree with you that since it looks like they are going to let Sproles walk and LT is gone

bah007
02-28-2010, 04:42 PM
So after seeing the times which running backs is everybody smitten with right now?

Ive always liked Spiller but i doubt he falls to 20.

Ryan Matthews is really impressive. To have that size and can run away from defenses.

From what ive seen of him in games and now his 40 i think he'd be great in the 2nd.

Since the very beginning I have maintained that I believe the best backs in this class will end up being Mathews and Tate. Their performance in the combine has had no impact on that belief as I believe that running drills in shorts does not compare at all to what a RB is asked to do on the field.

They can both power it up the middle, block, catch, and have enough speed to take it to the outside. Both would be perfect for our offense.

I have had Mathews going in the first round to SD for a while now and I have had a late 2nd/early 3rd grade on Tate.

mariowillshine15
02-28-2010, 04:42 PM
I think Mathews will be a Charger in the 1st .

I could see that for sure.

I think they were going with him or Dwyer and with Dwyer's weight problems and slow 40 i think Matthews is now #1 on their board.

rmartin65
02-28-2010, 04:44 PM
Oops you're right. For some reason I wrote down Lonyae Miller's time. Thanks.

Which is just as impressive, I think Miller is actually bigger than Matthews.

rmartin65
02-28-2010, 04:49 PM
I will admit, I was never a Tate fan. His play to me suggested that he had limited athletic potential. It appears that I was well off the mark there.

On a side note, is anyone else a little worried about McClusters lack of explosiveness? 4.58 40 time, did not qualify for NFL.com's top 10 list for broad jump, only the 6th best vertical. I know tests are not everything, not even half of things, but for a guys his size speed and explosiveness are huge. I think, given the choice between Holliday and McCluster, I would go with Holliday.

LonerATO
02-28-2010, 04:53 PM
I will admit, I was never a Tate fan. His play to me suggested that he had limited athletic potential. It appears that I was well off the mark there.

On a side note, is anyone else a little worried about McClusters lack of explosiveness? 4.58 40 time, did not qualify for NFL.com's top 10 list for broad jump, only the 6th best vertical. I know tests are not everything, not even half of things, but for a guys his size speed and explosiveness are huge. I think, given the choice between Holliday and McCluster, I would go with Holliday.

I thought Tate was a top 3 WR and the Combine has moved him up to the 2nd spot in my opinion, but Bryant is still everyones #1

mariowillshine15
02-28-2010, 04:54 PM
I will admit, I was never a Tate fan. His play to me suggested that he had limited athletic potential. It appears that I was well off the mark there.

On a side note, is anyone else a little worried about McClusters lack of explosiveness? 4.58 40 time, did not qualify for NFL.com's top 10 list for broad jump, only the 6th best vertical. I know tests are not everything, not even half of things, but for a guys his size speed and explosiveness are huge. I think, given the choice between Holliday and McCluster, I would go with Holliday.

I think your taking the testing too far. On the field McCluster is a beast, Holliday was a returner and nothing more really.

Some players test fast, some play fast and McCluster is great on the field.

LonerATO
02-28-2010, 05:15 PM
I think your taking the testing too far. On the field McCluster is a beast, Holliday was a returner and nothing more really.

Some players test fast, some play fast and McCluster is great on the field.

This I agree with and McCluster can play more positions. i think McCluster is the kind of guy that you can move around all over the field.

rmartin65
02-28-2010, 05:24 PM
I thought Tate was a top 3 WR and the Combine has moved him up to the 2nd spot in my opinion, but Bryant is still everyones #1

Wrong Tate, I still dont really like the receiver. Something about Notre Dame players...

rmartin65
02-28-2010, 05:33 PM
I think your taking the testing too far. On the field McCluster is a beast, Holliday was a returner and nothing more really.

Some players test fast, some play fast and McCluster is great on the field.

This I agree with and McCluster can play more positions. i think McCluster is the kind of guy that you can move around all over the field.

I was never sold on his ability to play at the next level. This just leads me to believe that my initial assumptions were correct, that he was a good college player, but will be a nobody in the pros. Face it: That kind of speed at that size will not go over well in the pros. It just wont.

Holliday, to me, would bring more value. He is a dynamite returner. He would be a player that everyone would have to account for on offense. McCluster wont be as good a returner, and he will not be a game changer on offense. Too small, too slow.

Look at it this way, everyone's knock on Gerhart was speed/explosiveness. They have about the same speed (officially McCluster is like .02 seconds faster), essentially the same vertical (Gerhart holds a half inch advantage), and Gerhart had a better broad jump. If you question Gerharts explosiveness, you have to question McClusters.

Honoring Earl 34
02-28-2010, 06:00 PM
I think for an every down back it's Mathews , Tate , and Hardesty to me . For a bigger change of pace back Gerhart , Blount , and Dixon are my preference .

Dwyer dropped 10 lbs and ran ok but ... what if he gains them back . Spiller and Best are like Slaton and there's bigger needs .

JB
02-28-2010, 07:06 PM
I think for an every down back it's Mathews , Tate , and Hardesty to me . For a bigger change of pace back Gerhart , Blount , and Dixon are my preference .

Dwyer dropped 10 lbs and ran ok but ... what if he gains them back . Spiller and Best are like Slaton and there's bigger needs .


I will agree with the first statement, but I want no part of Blount.

I think Dwyer hurt himself today. He looked pudgy and stiff.

JB
02-28-2010, 07:12 PM
Tate had a monster day today and IMO moved himself up into the 2nd round.

Bench Press-26 (tied for first)
Vertical Jump- 40.5 (2nd- 1/2 inch behind Hardesty)
Broad Jump- 10'4" (tied for first)
40 yard dash- 4.43 (third)

I want this guy on our team!

Honoring Earl 34
02-28-2010, 07:37 PM
I will agree with the first statement, but I want no part of Blount.

I think Dwyer hurt himself today. He looked pudgy and stiff.

Yep ... and Dwyer looked pudgy after losing 10 lbs . Blount maybe late on a flier .

1st . Spiller and Mathews

2nd to 3rd . Best , Gerhart , Tate , Hardesty , Anthony Dixon

sleepers ... I'll get back

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010-nfl-combine-results-running-backs/

The Pencil Neck
03-01-2010, 01:49 AM
Right now, I'm hoping for Matthews in the 1st or Gerhart or Tate in the 2nd.

WolverineFan
03-01-2010, 10:16 AM
Right now, I'm hoping for Matthews in the 1st or Gerhart or Tate in the 2nd.

I'm hoping we can trade back a bit in the 1st, maybe to 25 or 26, and then grab Mathews and an extra 3rd in the process. Then in the 2nd go CB and then go G and FS in the 3rd.

HOU-TEX
03-01-2010, 10:50 AM
Hardesty killing it at the combine:

40 yard dash - 4.49
Bench press - 21
Vertical Jump - 41" (1st)
Broad Jump - 10'4" (1st)

I'm one that thinks we don't go with a RB on the first day. That said, I think a guy like Hardesty would definitely be on our radar in the 2nd or 3rd.

steelbtexan
03-01-2010, 10:56 AM
Hardesty and Tate are my favorites for 3rd rd picks. After there showig yesterday they will probably be gone before our pick in the 3rd. If Smithiak wait until the 3rd rd to pick a RB they are probably going to have to trade up to get Hardesty or Tate. IMHO

threetoedpete
03-01-2010, 12:40 PM
Just a side note for the "Combine is over rated" crowd....

Look to the differences in Dexter McCluster's forty time ranking vs WR Jacoby Ford. Now as compared to their three cone drill. You're up to bat in the whatever round.....who do you take McCluster or Jacoby Ford who out preformed him in the forty ? Now go back and see what both did in the three cone drills...McCluster in spite of the forty time, has the quicker feet and is the better value if both are on the board in the same round and your looking for a Wes Welker play maker. You take McCluster. quick feet trumps every thing else.

Honoring Earl 34
03-01-2010, 12:47 PM
You know , I thought they may be on a slow track until I looked at the unofficial DL times .

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010-nfl-combine-results-defensive-linemen/

beerlover
03-01-2010, 01:00 PM
McCoy is having himself a very underwhelming combine. expect some movement @ top of the board :kitten:

threetoedpete
03-01-2010, 01:09 PM
You know , I thought they may be on a slow track until I looked at the unofficial DL times .

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2010-nfl-combine-results-defensive-linemen/

Yeah never mind checking the clock....check the clock operator. Pro days will prove what's what and who is who. there's a reason the scout guys in the stands do their own hand held time with their own equipment.

threetoedpete
03-01-2010, 01:13 PM
Hardesty and Tate are my favorites for 3rd rd picks. After there showig yesterday they will probably be gone before our pick in the 3rd. If Smithiak wait until the 3rd rd to pick a RB they are probably going to have to trade up to get Hardesty or Tate. IMHO

Same thing as the poundster, Maurice Pouncey in the first: If you love the guy, he fits and you want him, and you're sure he is gone by the third....move down in the Second. Select him and go on from there.

steelbtexan
03-01-2010, 01:25 PM
Same thing as the poundster, Maurice Pouncey in the first: If you love the guy, he fits and you want him, and you're sure he is gone by the third....move down in the Second. Select him and go on from there.

Yep

Pouncey had an underwhelming combine. IMHO

I thought he would be a late 1st rder but after the combine I could see the Poundster falling to the Texans at 51. Not sure I would take him them I like Newhouse as much as I like the Poundster.

Newhouse could probably be taken in the 3'4th rd range.

BTW L.Joseph is tearing it up at the combine. He probably has moved up to the 3rd rd. The guys I liked for the 4/5th rds seem to be moving up.

threetoedpete
03-01-2010, 02:51 PM
Yep

Pouncey had an underwhelming combine. IMHO

I thought he would be a late 1st rder but after the combine I could see the Poundster falling to the Texans at 51. Not sure I would take him them I like Newhouse as much as I like the Poundster.

Newhouse could probably be taken in the 3'4th rd range.

BTW L.Joseph is tearing it up at the combine. He probably has moved up to the 3rd rd. The guys I liked for the 4/5th rds seem to be moving up.

Well I could be totally wrong about Newhouse. But my feeling is he'll beat the learning curve and be locked and loaded by September. He'll at the very least elevate the competition at guard in camp. And the best case scenario, it won't matter who's lined up at DT, Myers with have a wide body on his flank to protect hm form the big beaties of the NFL. Myers isn't going anywhere. I think it's a pretty good fix to get the running game rolling once again if Myers sticks at center. Besides, I'm tired of hearing Kubiak whine about it. Well damn it Gary, draft some one to fix it !!!

Honoring Earl 34
03-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Well I could be totally wrong about Newhouse. But my feeling is he'll beat the learning curve and be locked and loaded by September. He'll at the very least elevate the competition at guard in camp. And the best case scenario, it won't matter who's lined up at DT, Myers with have a wide body on his flank to protect hm form the big beaties of the NFL. Myers isn't going anywhere. I think it's a pretty good fix to get the running game rolling once again if Myers sticks at center. Besides, I'm tired of hearing Kubiak whine about it. Well damn it Gary, draft some one to fix it !!!

I'd like to get Saffold also , maybe in the third .

threetoedpete
03-01-2010, 03:31 PM
I'd like to get Saffold also , maybe in the third .

Just Judging by what the herd's top guys did Saturday, I'm pretty sure the Indiana guy has moved up the board significantly. It's not that he's, Saffold, is that much better a prospect. He's safer than quite a few rated higher than him. It's that the top of the group form my perspective is that bad. I see only two guys on the board i would trust with my NFL QB on the left side opening day. And besides....they have their swing guy in Butler. If they did take a guy I would expect them to take a guy like Fox that they could safely squirrel away on the practice squad. Read...very cheap. Duane and Erick are what they are. If you wanted better, should of moved up and taken Clady or Williams. They're here now. And it's up to the coaches to make the combo of those two tackles work. the tackles weren't the problem running the ball.

Texan4Ever
03-01-2010, 03:41 PM
Anyone know about Cam Thomas (UNC) performance at the combine? He would be nice addittion to the Texans roster.

badboy
03-01-2010, 04:21 PM
I was thinking we could put the information we get from the combine into one thread, make it easier for everyone. In this thread we could discuss measurements and player interviews, especially those pertaining to the Texans.

There is a rumor that TCU's Marshall Newhouse has met with the Texans.
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Health-of-Gronkowski-Gresham-on-center-stage.html

Here is NFL.com's combine center http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers#tp-tab-set-1:tp-grid-container-bench-press

Look at Petrus, damn!Good to know, he is my guy in 5th. I'll probably have to move him up. Has great footwork and gets to 2nd level.

badboy
03-01-2010, 04:23 PM
Mitch Petrus, 45 reps on the bench press, very impressive. He's got good size as well. If he does well in the agility drills then I'd like the Texans to take him in the 2nd or 3rd.I had Petrus in 3rd on prior mock but got info he did not look good at bowl. Keep info on him coming and thanks!

badboy
03-01-2010, 04:24 PM
Petrus keeps moving up the amatures scouts list. He went from a 4th rounder to now 2nd rounder. I think the pro scouts already had him pegged. :spin:

I am already tired of the coverage done by the NFLnetwork, I am tired of Tebow. Stop talking about a weak class of QBs. Discuss the deep areas of the draft for once.Petrus started off slow with Arkansas but master that complex offense. He will work out eventually to a starter just not sure when or if Texans can wait.

wagonhed
03-01-2010, 04:42 PM
I haven't been watching the draft, don't have a TV right now. So what's up with this DT from Arizona?

Earl Mitchell DT Arizona 6016 315 32 1/2 9 1/4 4.70 25

315lbs and he runs a 4.7 40, are you freaking serious!? That's insane if accurate. Does anyone know anything about this guy?

Honoring Earl 34
03-01-2010, 05:51 PM
Just Judging by what the herd's top guys did Saturday, I'm pretty sure the Indiana guy has moved up the board significantly. It's not that he's, Saffold, is that much better a prospect. He's safer than quite a few rated higher than him. It's that the top of the group form my perspective is that bad. I see only two guys on the board i would trust with my NFL QB on the left side opening day. And besides....they have their swing guy in Butler. If they did take a guy I would expect them to take a guy like Fox that they could safely squirrel away on the practice squad. Read...very cheap. Duane and Erick are what they are. If you wanted better, should of moved up and taken Clady or Williams. They're here now. And it's up to the coaches to make the combo of those two tackles work. the tackles weren't the problem running the ball.

I think Saffolds a guard .

The Pencil Neck
03-01-2010, 06:03 PM
Anyone know about Cam Thomas (UNC) performance at the combine? He would be nice addittion to the Texans roster.

IIRC, he was looking good. But... again... iirc... Mayock said that there were a lot of red flags about this guy because he played so well at the Senior Bowl and he's performing so well at the Combine. He didn't perform that well on the UNC game tape for Mayock. So he's kinda looking like a player with a ton of talent who only brings it when he thinks it's going to get him paid.