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m5kwatts
02-24-2010, 12:46 PM
He had surgery on his nose for sleep apnea....

source and more details here

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6882864.html

Texan_Bill
02-24-2010, 12:48 PM
All I know is that it's a crappy way to wake up.

m5kwatts
02-24-2010, 12:50 PM
As long as Rick Smith is there I think we'll be fine

gtexan02
02-24-2010, 01:22 PM
I bet the Raiders are jealous

Brisco_County
02-24-2010, 01:44 PM
My dad had that done, so I can offer an informed opinion:

I expect a full recovery for the 2010 season.

CloakNNNdagger
02-24-2010, 01:49 PM
It would be interesting to know why this type of non-emergency surgery could not have been scheduled to allow him to be present for an activity as important as the Combine. Yes, it is at least a good thing that Rick Smith will be present. But, for as much importance as Kubiak has repeatedly placed on "building this team with the Draft," I at very least find it strange. I wonder how many other HC's are not present.

Hardcore Texan
02-24-2010, 01:50 PM
I am little worried that I might have sleep apnea.


I got a chuckle out of this comment at the bottom:

Classic Kubiak! Manages his life just like he manages the clock on game day, poorly. Maybe he'll schedule a dental appointment on draft day

NitroGSXR
02-24-2010, 01:53 PM
What is sleep apnea. It sounds like a sleepy larve.

GP
02-24-2010, 02:01 PM
I thought it was because he couldn't stand the electric atmosphere of the combine. It's a big deal. Lots of decision-making to do. Tension.

http://images.chron.com/blogs/fanblogtexans/Loss%20Kubiak%20and%20Schaub.jpg

HouSportsWriter
02-24-2010, 02:02 PM
maby he will get some sleep and wont make brown throw instead of schaub =]

noxiousdog
02-24-2010, 02:03 PM
Being at the combine is a waste of time really. Every guy is taped and timed.

GP
02-24-2010, 02:03 PM
What is sleep apnea. It sounds like a sleepy larve.

Things happen in your nose/throat area, while you sleep, that close off the air passageway, causing you to STOP breathing for sometimes extended periods of time. Varies from person-to-person, and you can get various procedures done to help alleviate it.

If left to itself, it leads to heart disease problems because you are starving your heart of oxygen. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

Just spit-ballin' without doing my proper research.

ATXtexanfan
02-24-2010, 02:07 PM
As long as Rick Smith is there I think we'll be fine

my thoughts exactly. maybe kubiak trusts smith judgement.

infantrycak
02-24-2010, 02:11 PM
So we have one thread saying the combine is overrated and next to worthless and another complaining about Kubiak not attending it. Just an observation.

IDEXAN
02-24-2010, 02:14 PM
I wonder how many other HC's are not present.
NFL.COM claims that more and more NFL staff, including GMs & HCs, aren't attending the Combine in person but rather viewing it from remote TVs sets
because they have superior coverage to viewing in person. Now obviously part of that is marketing crapp, but I'm sure Kubiak won't miss a whole lot by watching it from TV at his home while he rest up from his surgery. And besides if you don't watch it on NFL.COM you miss the always informative & enteraining commentary of Mike Mayock.
The personal meetings of the individual prospects can't be substituted however and that's obviously a downside of not being in Indy.

Blake
02-24-2010, 02:20 PM
I would do the same. Who wants to spend a week watching dudes run a 40 yard dash?

C Madd
02-24-2010, 02:22 PM
Things happen in your nose/throat area, while you sleep, that close off the air passageway, causing you to STOP breathing for sometimes extended periods of time. Varies from person-to-person, and you can get various procedures done to help alleviate it.

If left to itself, it leads to heart disease problems because you are starving your heart of oxygen. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

Just spit-ballin' without doing my proper research.

This is pretty much it. My roommate in college had it and he would wake up in the middle of the night gasping for air. Seemed like it sucked pretty bad.

I think sleep apnea contributed to Reggie White's death.

playa465
02-24-2010, 02:25 PM
So we have one thread saying the combine is overrated and next to worthless and another complaining about Kubiak not attending it. Just an observation.

How dare you allude to us (fans) being fickle. :gun:

Blake
02-24-2010, 02:25 PM
So we have one thread saying the combine is overrated and next to worthless and another complaining about Kubiak not attending it. Just an observation.

I was thinking the same thing.

Any reason to attack the FO.

Shaft75
02-24-2010, 02:33 PM
Things happen in your nose/throat area, while you sleep, that close off the air passageway, causing you to STOP breathing for sometimes extended periods of time. Varies from person-to-person, and you can get various procedures done to help alleviate it.

If left to itself, it leads to heart disease problems because you are starving your heart of oxygen. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

Just spit-ballin' without doing my proper research.

Reggie White died from this.

Surgery cures and breathing apparatus's help to cope. I have a machine called a cpap that blows clean oxygen in through the nose. I rarely use it, but it certainly helps. You wake up feeling a little more refreshed because you are getting the amount of oxygen your body needs.

BigBull17
02-24-2010, 02:39 PM
As long as Rick Smith is there I think we'll be fine

As long as our scputing department is there, it's ok. They are the ones who really need to be there to get numbers and do interviews. He'll be at pro days and the like. The big one is the workouts you can host pre draft.

MeLoveTexans
02-24-2010, 02:47 PM
Things happen in your nose/throat area, while you sleep, that close off the air passageway, causing you to STOP breathing for sometimes extended periods of time. Varies from person-to-person, and you can get various procedures done to help alleviate it.

If left to itself, it leads to heart disease problems because you are starving your heart of oxygen. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

Just spit-ballin' without doing my proper research.

It also doesn't allow the person to reach the critical stage of REM sleep so they are constantly tired, fatigued, sometimes grouchy.

My dad and grandad both got their breathing machines for it and they noticed a huge improvement in their day to day life. When my dad got tested for it, they said he woke up 2000 times that night.

barrett
02-24-2010, 02:47 PM
It would be interesting to know why this type of non-emergency surgery could not have been scheduled to allow him to be present for an activity as important as the Combine. Yes, it is at least a good thing that Rick Smith will be present. But, for as much importance as Kubiak has repeatedly placed on "building this team with the Draft," I at very least find it strange. I wonder how many other HC's are not present.

I'm sure this is going to be a popular response. It's not like he's sitting around all the other days that aren't the combine. The combine is very important no doubt but I'm sure evaluations of the players currently on the team are too. As are other things that the staff is working on.

To us it's the "hope" factor. "This guy is good if we get him we can be good!" kind of thing. I'm sure if you're on staff it's just part of the job.

houstonspartan
02-24-2010, 03:16 PM
It would be interesting to know why this type of non-emergency surgery could not have been scheduled to allow him to be present for an activity as important as the Combine. Yes, it is at least a good thing that Rick Smith will be present. But, for as much importance as Kubiak has repeatedly placed on "building this team with the Draft," I at very least find it strange. I wonder how many other HC's are not present.

Kubiak is probably in the middle of a SLEEP STUDY, of which Apena is one thing they examine. It's likely better for them to do the surgery now, and monitor his sleep for the next few months.

He probably already sleeps with a mask on his face. They likely want to get surgery out of the way to start to study him to see if the surgery helped. They'll probably monitor him for a couple of months.

The timing of this is just fine.

painekiller
02-24-2010, 03:25 PM
Things happen in your nose/throat area, while you sleep, that close off the air passageway, causing you to STOP breathing for sometimes extended periods of time. Varies from person-to-person, and you can get various procedures done to help alleviate it.

If left to itself, it leads to heart disease problems because you are starving your heart of oxygen. Someone correct me if I am wrong here.

Just spit-ballin' without doing my proper research.

I was diagnosed with the condition in '98. Used a CPAP machine. Had the surgery in 2004. My condition has worsen to the point now I have 106 apnea's (spot breathing) an hour, each averaging 27 seconds long. Do the math.

I have a new CPAP (pressurized air pump) I received last Thursday and have finally had full night sleeps, the first in 2 years. I was not able to function in the real world the last year and half. I am still not back to "normal" but I am getting closer.

Former players have died from this.

hookinreds
02-24-2010, 03:31 PM
I thought it was because he couldn't stand the electric atmosphere of the combine. It's a big deal. Lots of decision-making to do. Tension.

http://images.chron.com/blogs/fanblogtexans/Loss%20Kubiak%20and%20Schaub.jpg

As they both turn their head in disgust after Sage goes to his knees saying "I'll do what ever it takes big boy" to get more playing time.

m5kwatts
02-24-2010, 03:50 PM
Personally I hope most of our judgements/evaluations comes from their college tape and not from a freak workout in Indy.... no Vernon Gholstons please

CloakNNNdagger
02-24-2010, 05:07 PM
Reggie White died from this.

Surgery cures and breathing apparatus's help to cope. I have a machine called a cpap that blows clean oxygen in through the nose. I rarely use it, but it certainly helps. You wake up feeling a little more refreshed because you are getting the amount of oxygen your body needs.

Fifty % of patients with signifcant Heart Disease demonstrate sleep apnea. With the sleep apnea, the blood is not properly oxygenated nor circulated. Significant bradycardia (slowing of the heart rate) occurs during in 95% of apnea episodes. With all of this, the corornary arteries can't properly oxygenate and support the heart, and hence high risk for heart attack.

A recent study revealed what has always been suspected. Sleep apnea decreases blood flow and oxygen to the brain, elevates blood pressure within the brain and eventually severely affects the brainís internal ability to control these changes and prevent damage to itself. Result, high risk for stroke.

Texan_Bill
02-24-2010, 05:11 PM
I'm glad I've been reading this thread. I've dealt with it (periodically, not nightly) for a number of years and did not know:
A) That there are procedures for it.
B) That it had that much impact as it relates to the heart.

I just always thought it was just a pain in the ass to wake up gasping for air and not be able to fall back asleep for a few minutes. I also thought it sucks waking up the next morning and not feeling rested.

Shaft75
02-24-2010, 05:12 PM
Fifty % of patients with signifcant Heart Disease demonstrate sleep apnea. With the sleep apnea, the blood is not properly oxygenated nor circulated. Significant bradycardia (slowing of the heart rate) occurs during in 95% of apnea episodes. With all of this, the corornary arteries can't properly oxygenate and support the heart, and hence high risk for heart attack.

A recent study revealed what has always been suspected. Sleep apnea decreases blood flow and oxygen to the brain, elevates blood pressure within the brain and eventually severely affects the brainís internal ability to control these changes and prevent damage to itself. Result, high risk for stroke.

Since we are discussing this... What do you think about surgery? Is it overkill?

CloakNNNdagger
02-24-2010, 05:37 PM
Kubiak is probably in the middle of a SLEEP STUDY, of which Apena is one thing they examine. It's likely better for them to do the surgery now, and monitor his sleep for the next few months.

He probably already sleeps with a mask on his face. They likely want to get surgery out of the way to start to study him to see if the surgery helped. They'll probably monitor him for a couple of months.

The timing of this is just fine.

I have performed many sleep apnea related nasal surgeries. Within 3 weeks retesting will reliably test the efficacy of the surgery. The "study" itself will take 24-48 hours.

CloakNNNdagger
02-24-2010, 05:43 PM
Since we are discussing this... What do you think about surgery? Is it overkill?

The nasal surgery has improved many patients. When performed properly, it is a relatively comfortable and quick recovery. The next stage surgery (if the first stage surgery did not affect adequate improvement) of the uvula/palate is usually a much more difficult recovery, especifically pain-wise.

CloakNNNdagger
02-24-2010, 05:48 PM
I'm glad I've been reading this thread. I've dealt with it (periodically, not nightly) for a number of years and did not know:
A) That there are procedures for it.
B) That it had that much impact as it relates to the heart.

I just always thought it was just a pain in the ass to wake up gasping for air and not be able to fall back asleep for a few minutes. I also thought it sucks waking up the next morning and not feeling rested.

Believe it or not, snoring ONLY occurs during non-REM sleep. So all you snoreres, aside from the sleep apnea implications, it isn't only your "partners" that can't get a good night's sleep.

Texan_Bill
02-24-2010, 05:50 PM
Believe it or not, snoring ONLY occurs during non-REM sleep. So all you snoreres, aside from the sleep apnea implications, it isn't only your "partners" that can't get a good night's sleep.

That explains a lot. I can't tell you the last time I had a restful night's sleep.

Shaft75
02-24-2010, 05:52 PM
That explains a lot. I can't tell you the last time I had a restful night's sleep.

You need to do a sleep study man. I did, and they found that I had several apneas. Now I have that cpap and it helps.

Texan_Bill
02-24-2010, 05:55 PM
You need to do a sleep study man. I did, and they found that I had several apneas. Now I have that cpap and it helps.

Like I said, I never thought it was a big deal so I thought I just had to deal with it. I'm going to talk to my doctor about it.

Joe Texan
02-24-2010, 06:04 PM
I wish Gary a speedy recovery

Hardcore Texan
02-24-2010, 06:30 PM
That explains a lot. I can't tell you the last time I had a restful night's sleep.

I'm in the same boat.

painekiller
02-24-2010, 10:03 PM
I'm glad I've been reading this thread. I've dealt with it (periodically, not nightly) for a number of years and did not know:
A) That there are procedures for it.
B) That it had that much impact as it relates to the heart.

I just always thought it was just a pain in the ass to wake up gasping for air and not be able to fall back asleep for a few minutes. I also thought it sucks waking up the next morning and not feeling rested.

Tell your doctor and schedule a sleep test. Now I do not recommend the uvula/palate surgery. According to my most recent sleep tech, most have short term gains from the surgery but in the long run their symptoms progressively get worse then before the surgery, like my case.

Use the CPAP machine, it's a pain but it work the best of the options.

painekiller
02-24-2010, 10:07 PM
The nasal surgery has improved many patients. When performed properly, it is a relatively comfortable and quick recovery. The next stage surgery (if the first stage surgery did not affect adequate improvement) of the uvula/palate is usually a much more difficult recovery, especifically pain-wise.

I have had the uvula/palate surgery, hardest thing I have ever been through. And the pain is off the chart.

Sorry that was my reality. I would not recommend the surgery due to the results not being worth the risk/pain cost.

m5kwatts
02-24-2010, 10:08 PM
I blame the Winter Olympics for Kubiak's sleeping disorder. Sheesh I need to get tested for sleep apnea after this snooze fest. Whens training camp?

dalemurphy
02-25-2010, 12:05 AM
Who will be in charge of conducting the interviews? Usually it's the head coach. I don't think a GM should be the primary in that environment. That's a time for the coaches to get a sense of the player.

m5kwatts
02-25-2010, 12:12 AM
Who will be in charge of conducting the interviews? Usually it's the head coach. I don't think a GM should be the primary in that environment. That's a time for the coaches to get a sense of the player.

Position coaches and coordinators make the trip too if I'm not mistaken...atleast a select few do

barrett
02-25-2010, 12:27 AM
I blame the Winter Olympics for Kubiak's sleeping disorder. Sheesh I need to get tested for sleep apnea after this snooze fest. Whens training camp?

wait, if it's a snooze fest then clearly you don't suffer from sleep apnea. perhaps you're asleep and not thinking clearly.

but yes. it's been dull. still watch it every night. What do I have to do to get them to rebroadcast Suday's football games from 1-4 in the morning? I'm loving that aspect of it!

barrett
02-25-2010, 12:28 AM
You know, honestly, it can't hurt for him to get more rest. It could actually help him grow as a head coach.

DocBar
02-25-2010, 12:59 AM
Believe it or not, snoring ONLY occurs during non-REM sleep. So all you snoreres, aside from the sleep apnea implications, it isn't only your "partners" that can't get a good night's sleep.

Tell that to my wife. She thinks I snore just to piss her off. I'm gonna schedule a sleep study for this. I've awakened MANY times gasping for air like I was about to suffocate. I wonder if this could be a significant cause to the stroke I had in '06.

m5kwatts
02-25-2010, 01:33 AM
wait, if it's a snooze fest then clearly you don't suffer from sleep apnea. perhaps you're asleep and not thinking clearly.

but yes. it's been dull. still watch it every night. What do I have to do to get them to rebroadcast Suday's football games from 1-4 in the morning? I'm loving that aspect of it!

Lol I agree, I love live sporting events way late at night like that. Wish there was more of it. And I wish it wasn't figure skating.

barrett
02-25-2010, 02:00 AM
it ain't live though.

CloakNNNdagger
02-25-2010, 07:29 AM
I have had the uvula/palate surgery, hardest thing I have ever been through. And the pain is off the chart.

Sorry that was my reality. I would not recommend the surgery due to the results not being worth the risk/pain cost.


This is essentially what I was eluding to. Your reality is real. I stopped performing the 2nd stage uvula/palate surgery for apnea years ago for that reason. I have let otolaryngologists (ENT) deal with it in only the severest of cases where the patient refuses or insists that they cannot tolerate the CPAP/BIPAP machine.

Very thin people can suffer from sleep apnea. And their anatomic sources are usually from nasal, tonsilar and uvula/palate obstruction. Grossly overweight patients have the same anatomic basis for the disease. However, these can be corrected and their problems can still remain because of fat in the neck, compromising the caliper of the pharyngeal airway. In these cases, significant weight loss is mandatory for adequate relief.

CloakNNNdagger
02-25-2010, 07:33 AM
Tell that to my wife. She thinks I snore just to piss her off. I'm gonna schedule a sleep study for this. I've awakened MANY times gasping for air like I was about to suffocate. I wonder if this could be a significant cause to the stroke I had in '06.

Could have likely been related. Because of your history, besides a sleep study, I would consider consultation with a cardiologist and neurologist.

Yankee_In_TX
02-25-2010, 10:24 AM
My dad had that done, so I can offer an informed opinion:

I expect a full recovery for the 2010 season.

Dude, knock it off - you'll put McClain out of a job.

Shaft75
02-25-2010, 10:30 AM
Dude, knock it off - you'll put McClain out of a job.

This just in...

2/25/10 - Texans looking to draft a couple players on both sides of the ball. D-line, O-line, LB, RB, CB, S, WR are all on their priority list sources tell me. Also, Rick Smith would like the players that got injured to get healthy.

--John McLain, Houston Chronicle

Yankee_In_TX
02-25-2010, 10:51 AM
This just in...

2/25/10 - Texans looking to draft a couple players on both sides of the ball. D-line, O-line, LB, RB, CB, S, WR are all on their priority list sources tell me. Also, Rick Smith would like the players that got injured to get healthy.

--John McLain, Houston Chronicle

In all seriousness - 610 kept reporting something the other day (every sports flash - I don't remember what) - "610 has learned that in John McClain's opinion the Texans...."

Seriously? How about at least 'sources tell John McClain' or something? You're now reporting his opinion?!?!?

nero THE zero
02-25-2010, 10:54 AM
So we have one thread saying the combine is overrated and next to worthless and another complaining about Kubiak not attending it. Just an observation.

Not surprising that there are people with varying opinions on a public forum.

Thorn
02-25-2010, 01:25 PM
Not surprising that there are people with varying opinions on a public forum.

I disagree.

HOU-TEX
02-25-2010, 01:28 PM
HOU-TEX won't be at the Combine either. He's decided to go fishing with his Son as long as the weather holds up.

GP
02-25-2010, 01:36 PM
Not surprising that there are people with varying opinions on a public forum.

That's just speculation. Got a link for that?

badboy
02-25-2010, 01:38 PM
I bet the Raiders are jealousNot really as Al Davis has had apnea of one sort or another for years.:barman:

Yankee_In_TX
02-25-2010, 01:56 PM
HOU-TEX won't be at the Combine either. He's decided to go fishing with his Son as long as the weather holds up.

2/25/10 - John McClain reports in his opinion scouts may question Hou-Tex's dedication to football in light of his statement he will be fishing instead of attending the Combine.

HOU-TEX
02-25-2010, 02:00 PM
2/25/10 - John McClain reports in his opinion scouts may question Hou-Tex's dedication to football in light of his statement he will be fishing instead of attending the Combine.

:lol: That's funny stuff, man. Blew a snot bubble on that one.

Shaft75
02-25-2010, 02:43 PM
:lol: That's funny stuff, man. Blew a snot bubble on that one.

It's funny how roundabout this thread has been... Gary not making the combine due to nose surgery and now you're blowing a snot bubble in his honor.

threetoedpete
02-26-2010, 04:08 AM
It would be interesting to know why this type of non-emergency surgery could not have been scheduled to allow him to be present for an activity as important as the Combine. Yes, it is at least a good thing that Rick Smith will be present. But, for as much importance as Kubiak has repeatedly placed on "building this team with the Draft," I at very least find it strange. I wonder how many other HC's are not present.

Well Kubes has a scouting Staff. And all the whistles and bells of a NFL Video room. And I guess if you weren't suffering from this all you life it might be called a trivial thingy. Maybe, he just needs the rest. Since he's pretty much been shut out from the inside, if there was any smoke here, McClain would have already been all over this leading the march to have Kubes drummed out of town. No where, until your post, have I read that Kubiak isn't putting in his hours. But it's the off season feel free to start the frenzy.

:roast:

TexanBacker93
02-26-2010, 06:03 AM
It would be interesting to know why this type of non-emergency surgery could not have been scheduled to allow him to be present for an activity as important as the Combine. Yes, it is at least a good thing that Rick Smith will be present. But, for as much importance as Kubiak has repeatedly placed on "building this team with the Draft," I at very least find it strange. I wonder how many other HC's are not present.

I think the HCs are always present. This was my first thought also. The season was done for the Texans on Jan 3. Why not get this done last month? Why not wait one week until after the combine? I know he'll still have an opportunity to see many players at their pro days, but a lot of those are scheduled on the same day so he can't be at all of them.

TexanBacker93
02-26-2010, 06:05 AM
Well Kubes has a scouting Staff. And all the whistles and bells of a NFL Video room. And I guess if you weren't suffering from this all you life it might be called a trivial thingy. Maybe, he just needs the rest. Since he's pretty much been shut out from the inside, if there was any smoke here, McClain would have already been all over this leading the march to have Kubes drummed out of town. No where, until your post, have I read that Kubiak isn't putting in his hours. But it's the off season feel free to start the frenzy.

:roast:

I've never thought he didn't put in the hours. I just felt it an odd time to have this procedure done.

CloakNNNdagger
02-26-2010, 06:27 AM
Well Kubes has a scouting Staff. And all the whistles and bells of a NFL Video room. And I guess if you weren't suffering from this all you life it might be called a trivial thingy. Maybe, he just needs the rest. Since he's pretty much been shut out from the inside, if there was any smoke here, McClain would have already been all over this leading the march to have Kubes drummed out of town. No where, until your post, have I read that Kubiak isn't putting in his hours. But it's the off season feel free to start the frenzy.

:roast:

Nowhere have I even implied that Kubiak has not "put in the hours." and by no means would I trivialize his condition. However, I have never seen this procedure performed as an "emergency." The timing therefore leaves me a little miffed. Certainly, the sky is not falling because of this decision, but it sure seems curiously cloudy.

BullNation4Life
02-26-2010, 11:07 AM
Nowhere have I even implied that Kubiak has not "put in the hours." and by no means would I trivialize his condition. However, I have never seen this procedure performed as an "emergency." The timing therefore leaves me a little miffed. Certainly, the sky is not falling because of this decision, but it sure seems curiously cloudy.

Only in the mind of a conspiracist....:hides:

Shaft75
02-26-2010, 02:39 PM
Nowhere have I even implied that Kubiak has not "put in the hours." and by no means would I trivialize his condition. However, I have never seen this procedure performed as an "emergency." The timing therefore leaves me a little miffed. Certainly, the sky is not falling because of this decision, but it sure seems curiously cloudy.

Maybe he's making a statement... Or maybe it will interfere with vacation time. Will we ever truly know?

The recovery doesn't take that long does it?

CloakNNNdagger
02-26-2010, 08:06 PM
Maybe he's making a statement... Or maybe it will interfere with vacation time. Will we ever truly know?

The recovery doesn't take that long does it?

Typically:
Light duty/telephone/ paperwork>>>>>>>within 1 week
Strenuous activities>>>>>>>>>within 3 weeks

HJam72
02-27-2010, 08:55 AM
What is sleep apnea. It sounds like a sleepy larve.

Yeah, he has lice in his nose. It's all the hair in there.

ArlingtonTexan
02-27-2010, 09:36 AM
Typically:
Light duty/telephone/ paperwork>>>>>>>within 1 week
Strenuous activities>>>>>>>>>within 3 weeks

I am guessing that because he is having a second portion in 6 weeks has as much to do with the timing of the first procedure. Probably not two dates six weeks apart that worked really well.

GP
02-27-2010, 11:48 AM
For the record, as much as I love to rag on Kubiak...

I don't care if he's not at the combine. I think the combine is good for about two things: To see if the ones who are projected high are really THAT good when stripped down to basic drills and interviews, and if the hidden gems who were NOT touted very highly can hang when the pressure is on due to the stage they are on at the combine.

These are drills. Interviews. All of which is taped and reviewed by each team once the combine is over.

So Kubiak can watch this stuff at home.

If he's getting something done that improves his quality of life, then good for him. Personal health first. Family second. Job third. Hobby/enjoyment fourth. Of course, I'm sure wives and children of coaches will laugh and say that I have number 2 and number 3 mixed up.