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digitalswim
02-23-2010, 06:09 PM
Does the NFL flip at the combine or the draft? Drafting 19th would be nice. Moving up just one spot in the draft has some nice value.

Wolf6151
02-23-2010, 07:37 PM
I believe the coin flip is done at the combine.

threetoedpete
02-24-2010, 07:39 AM
I thought it was at the Spring owners meetings.

HOU-TEX
02-24-2010, 09:08 AM
It's at the Combine


We’ll find out soon, because the coin flips that break their draft-order ties will occur in Indianapolis at the scouting combine, which gets into full swing later this week.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/tag/_/name/coin-flip

Insideop
02-24-2010, 08:10 PM
Heard on 610 radio driving home the coin flip would be on Friday at the Combine. They didn't give a time or anything.

steelbtexan
02-24-2010, 11:01 PM
When will the decision on the Travis Johnson pick be known?

kiwitexansfan
02-25-2010, 08:22 AM
Who gets to make the call on the coin toss?

Do they flip a coin to decide who gets to make the call on the coin toss? Rock, Paper, Scissors?

Blake
02-25-2010, 02:53 PM
Maybe the owners or GM's can put pots on their heads and run at each other. Winner gets the 19th pick.

gwallaia
02-25-2010, 03:01 PM
Heads!

NitroGSXR
02-25-2010, 03:24 PM
I hope we lose. I'd really like to say that we picked in the twenties instead of the teens. Makes us look like a better team.

HOU-TEX
02-25-2010, 04:56 PM
I hope we lose. I'd really like to say that we picked in the twenties instead of the teens. Makes us look like a better team.

The only bad thing about the Falcons choosing in front of us is the fact their needs are very similar to ours. It'll give them a chance to grab a player we were possibly targeting.

steelbtexan
02-25-2010, 05:37 PM
I hope we lose. I'd really like to say that we picked in the twenties instead of the teens. Makes us look like a better team.

We are the team we are. Could care less what peoples preceptions of this team are.

Give me # 19

Give me the playoffs.

awtysst
02-25-2010, 05:46 PM
Heads!

In a standard Dollar coin or quarter flip ALWAYS choose Tails. This is becuase the weight of the heads side is slightly heavier than the Tails. When flipped in the air, there is a slight bias in which the heavier Heads side pulls the coin down.

Now, we are talking fractional difference, but these are not fair coins, so I say, ALWAYS go tails.

bah007
02-25-2010, 06:48 PM
In a standard Dollar coin or quarter flip ALWAYS choose Tails. This is becuase the weight of the heads side is slightly heavier than the Tails. When flipped in the air, there is a slight bias in which the heavier Heads side pulls the coin down.

Now, we are talking fractional difference, but these are not fair coins, so I say, ALWAYS go tails.

Tails never fails.

BigTimeTexanFan
02-25-2010, 07:21 PM
Heads I win Tails you lose!

pbat488
02-26-2010, 12:30 AM
Opposite of what's showing til the day I die.

threetoedpete
02-26-2010, 05:22 AM
The only bad thing about the Falcons choosing in front of us is the fact their needs are very similar to ours. It'll give them a chance to grab a player we were possibly targeting.

I don't know we're pretty loaded at DE. and Jamal Anderson....that there thingy is what they call a bust. and every round you wait on a DE is one more wart. Too little. Not explosive enough. a lot of people are unhappy with Barwin. But I thought he had a pretty good year. Looked to me like he was putting on good weight every week. Be patient with him and he just might turn into a beast.

Insideop
02-26-2010, 08:23 AM
Well Nitro, you got your wish.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6886943.html

Insideop
02-26-2010, 08:28 AM
Well Nitro, you got your wish. I forgot to add :foottap:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6886943.html

BIG TORO
02-26-2010, 08:31 AM
Damn that sucks!

Insideop
02-26-2010, 08:59 AM
Oh and by the way, McClain also reports we get the Chargers 6th round pick, not 5th like some had hoped, for the Travis Johnson trade. Guess he wasn't worth as much as some people thought. :shades:

badboy
02-26-2010, 10:55 AM
Oh and by the way, McClain also reports we get the Chargers 6th round pick, not 5th like some had hoped, for the Travis Johnson trade. Guess he wasn't worth as much as some people thought. :shades:Uh, oh. That messes up my board. I wished SMith would just come out and tell us.

HOU-TEX
02-26-2010, 11:14 AM
I don't know we're pretty loaded at DE. and Jamal Anderson....that there thingy is what they call a bust. and every round you wait on a DE is one more wart. Too little. Not explosive enough. a lot of people are unhappy with Barwin. But I thought he had a pretty good year. Looked to me like he was putting on good weight every week. Be patient with him and he just might turn into a beast.

I was thinking more along the lines of a DB and DT, but your right, they need a DE too. The Falcons need a lot on defense.

threetoedpete
02-28-2010, 08:41 AM
Oh and by the way, McClain also reports we get the Chargers 6th round pick, not 5th like some had hoped, for the Travis Johnson trade. Guess he wasn't worth as much as some people thought. :shades:

So does the 6 now qualify for "two six packs and a ham sandwich" ?

Buddy Ryan quote after the Eagles traded Chris Carter to the Vikings.

I can't believe we have folks that want to try the DT in the first once again. Third times a charm theory ? do it enough eventually you'll hit one.

"I keep pushing all of the buttons but nuttin" happens. "

Curly of the Three Stooges.

:spin:

infantrycak
02-28-2010, 09:11 AM
I can't believe we have folks that want to try the DT in the first once again. Third times a charm theory ? do it enough eventually you'll hit one.

I don't want a DT in the first unless it is a fantastic value for some reason but I can't believe we have folks that want to turn 1 or 2 bad experiences into a general rule. So they missed on TJ. Big whoop it happens. They missed on Carr too. Should they have a rule against ever drafting QBs in the 1st?

ChampionTexan
02-28-2010, 09:30 AM
I don't want a DT in the first unless it is a fantastic value for some reason but I can't believe we have folks that want to turn 1 or 2 bad experiences into a general rule. So they missed on TJ. Big whoop it happens. They missed on Carr too. Should they have a rule against ever drafting QBs in the 1st?

By that logic, trading with the Raiders for a starting CB should be a non-starter.

beerlover
02-28-2010, 09:44 AM
I don't want a DT in the first unless it is a fantastic value for some reason but I can't believe we have folks that want to turn 1 or 2 bad experiences into a general rule. So they missed on TJ. Big whoop it happens. They missed on Carr too. Should they have a rule against ever drafting QBs in the 1st?

not directly related but the Texans did go another route for Schaub, trading two 2nd rd. picks & swaping TOP 10 1st's. on the other hand Baltimore traded with Texans for a QB (Flacco) & it only cost them swaping late 1st rd. picks & a third :um:

NitroGSXR
02-28-2010, 12:23 PM
not directly related but the Texans did go another route for Schaub, trading two 2nd rd. picks & swaping TOP 10 1st's. on the other hand Baltimore traded with Texans for a QB (Flacco) & it only cost them swaping late 1st rd. picks & a third :um:

I think Schaub's a far better QB thus worth the higher price it took to get him.

beerlover
02-28-2010, 12:40 PM
I think Schaub's a far better QB thus worth the higher price it took to get him.

Schaub was no more proven than Flacco at the time. Flacco has the higher ceiling, started as a rookie & is not blessed with Andre Johnson.

ChampionTexan
02-28-2010, 01:10 PM
not directly related but the Texans did go another route for Schaub, trading two 2nd rd. picks & swaping TOP 10 1st's. on the other hand Baltimore traded with Texans for a QB (Flacco) & it only cost them swaping late 1st rd. picks & a third :um:


Using your draft value chart, when you consider that the net of the deal was Baltimore giving up the 8th pick (1400 points), and the 179th pick (19.8 points) and ended up with Flacco, the 71st pick (235 points), and a 4th round pick (#125 worth 47 points), that means Flacco cost them 1,147.7 draft points (+1400+19.8-235-47). Meanwhile, the Texans swapped '07 first round picks (100 points), and gave up the 39th pick in '07 (510 points), and what ended up being the 49th pick in 2008 (410 points), the net cost for Matt was 1,020 points. This doesn't recognize the fact that the 49th pick in '08 should be discounted because it was a year in the future.

Net calc is that even if you give the Flacco deal the benefit of the doubt he was about 125 points more expensive than Schaub.