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CloakNNNdagger
02-20-2010, 11:14 PM
Some interesting numbers on last year's salaries.

The franchise tender is based on the average value of the five highest-paid players at the same position from the prior year.

For each position, here are the numbers and the five salaries that gave rise to them for 2010.

At cornerback, the franchise tender is $9.566 million, based on the average 2009 pay of Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey ($13.188 million), Texans cornerback Dunta Robinson ($9.957 million), Eagles cornerback Asante Samuel ($9.9 million), Jets cornerback Darrelle Revis ($7.425 million), and Giants cornerback Corey Webster ($7.357 million).

At defensive end, the franchise tender has climbed to $12.398 million, based on the average 2009 pay of Panthers defensive end Julius Peppers ($16.683 million), Vikings defensive end Jared Allen ($14.533 million), Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney ($11.22 million), 49ers defensive end Justin Smith ($10.283 million), and Saints defensive end Will Smith ($9.271 million).

At defensive tackle, the franchise value of $7 million arises from the 2009 average pay received by Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris ($8.59 million), Redskins defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth ($7 million), Falcons defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux ($6.5 million), Browns defensive tackle Shaun Rogers ($6.473 million), and Steelers defensive tackle Casey Hampton ($6.452 million).

At linebacker, the average 2009 pay of Cowboys linebacker DeMarcus Ware ($11.435 million), Cardinals linebacker Karlos Dansby ($9.678 million), Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher ($9.175 million), Titans linebacker Keith Bulluck ($9.109 million), and Jets linebacker Bart Scott ($9 million) equates to $9.68 million.

For offensive linemen, the $10.731 million average comes from the 2009 money paid to 49ers tackle Joey Staley ($10.731 million), Eagles tackle Jason Peters ($12.7 million), Seahawks tackle Walter Jones ($9.8 million), Dolphins tackle Jake Long ($9.6 million), and Packers tackle Chad Clifton ($8.034 million).

At quarterback, the average of $16.4 million comes from Colts quarterback Peyton Manning ($21.199 million), Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb ($16.704 million), Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel ($15.2 million), Patriots quarterback Tom Brady ($14.62 million), and Bengals quarterback Carson Palmer ($14.3 million).

At running back, the top five of Saints running back Reggie Bush ($10.585 million), Eagles running back Brian Westbrook ($8.633 million), Chargers running back LaDainian Tomlinson ($7.541 million), Rams running back Steven Jackson ($7.399 million) and Chargers running back Darren Sproles ($6.621 million) translates to an average of $8.156 million.

At receiver, the average pay of $9.521 million comes from Cardinals receiver Larry Fitzgerald ($10.893 million), Bucs receiver Antonio Bryant ($9.884 million), Patriots receiver Randy Moss ($9.65 million), Panthers receiver Steve Smith ($8.997 million), and Lions receiver Calvin Johnson ($8.18 million).

For tight ends, Dallas Clark of the Colts ($6.77 million), Daniel Graham of the Broncos ($6.45 million), Todd Heap of the Ravens ($6.367 million), Kellen Winslow of the Buccaneers ($5.17 million), and Vernon Davis of the 49ers ($4.78 million) created an average of $5.908 million.

At safety, the average of $6.455 million arises from the average salaries paid to Cardinals safety Adrian Wilson ($7.039 million), Steelers safety Troy Polamalu ($6.95 million), Ravens safety Ed Reed ($6.4 million), Rams safety Oshiomogho Atogwe ($6.342 million), and Titans safety Chris Hope ($6 million).

Last, and definitely least, the franchise figure for kickers/punters of $2.814 million comes from Raiders punter Shane Lechler ($3.1 million), Bears kicker Robbie Gould ($2.9 million), 49ers kicker Joe Nedney ($2.862 million), Colts kicker Adam Vinatieri ($2.695 million), and Raiders kicker Sebastian Janikowski ($2.51 million).

Dutchrudder
02-23-2010, 10:52 AM
It's kind of sad to not see a single Texan paid top 5 money at any position.

CloakNNNdagger
02-23-2010, 11:06 AM
It's kind of sad to not see a single Texan paid top 5 money at any position.

Did you accidentally overlook our cornerback Dunta Robinson who was accidentally part of that top 5 list?

infantrycak
02-23-2010, 11:41 AM
It's kind of sad to not see a single Texan paid top 5 money at any position.

Not really. AJ for instance was getting top 5 money when he signed his deal but as new deals come along the older ones bump down the list. Williams was the same way. OD and DeMeco were both offered top 5 money as well.

Ole Miss Texan
02-23-2010, 05:04 PM
Wow, that's really really sad that the Chargers were the 31st ranked rushing team last season and were paying TWO runningbacks top 5 money.

It's kind of sad to not see a single Texan paid top 5 money at any position.
Dunta was overpaid! I think it's more of a testament of the great work Rick Smith and Dan Olsen are doing. Typically not breaking the bank. Olsen is one of the best with contracts and the way they're structured. In any event, our players' salaries are increasing and they're guys we're not getting rid of Mario, Andre, Schaub, etc. Most of those guys signed contracts years ago as opposed to the newer salaries. As each year goes by, the contracts get larger and larger.

gg no re
02-23-2010, 07:17 PM
Is it me or should prior franchise tenders not count towards the calculations of the new franchise tenders? Almost seems like paying off a credit card with a credit card.

Ole Miss Texan
02-26-2010, 12:51 PM
Is it me or should prior franchise tenders not count towards the calculations of the new franchise tenders? Almost seems like paying off a credit card with a credit card.
I see what you're saying and agree to an extent. The thing though is that its a legitimate 1 year contract. I think the means in which they got to that agreement is a little sketchy but both parties sign it.

One thing that makes it tricky though is how the contracts are structured. For example, Nnamdi Asomugha has one of the "best" contracts a player could have but he isn't in the "top 5". So players are negotiating their long term contracts based on other players long term contracts but this measures only 1 year. I guess it all evens out over time though, its more of a running number (average) than anything else.

I find the financial side of this industry fascinating.

infantrycak
02-26-2010, 12:57 PM
One thing that makes it tricky though is how the contracts are structured. For example, Nnamdi Asomugha has one of the "best" contracts a player could have but he isn't in the "top 5". So players are negotiating their long term contracts based on other players long term contracts but this measures only 1 year. I guess it all evens out over time though, its more of a running number (average) than anything else.

I find the financial side of this industry fascinating.

I think the author made a mistake on Nnamdi as he made about $14.5 mil last year and will again this year.

CloakNNNdagger
02-26-2010, 09:39 PM
Union's pitch for capped 2010 shot down (http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/extra_points/2010/02/unions_pitch_fo.html)

steelbtexan
02-27-2010, 02:48 AM
The owners are serious about maxamizing their profits.

Led by bob McNair.

CloakNNNdagger
02-27-2010, 08:43 AM
The owners are serious about maxamizing their profits.

Led by bob McNair.


This pissing match is going to get ugly.


Earlier this week, a memo from NFLPA Executive Director De Smith to all players and agents strongly suggested that the union will be taking a close look at the money teams spend -- or don't spend -- on free agents.

On Friday, Smith was even more direct, telling reporters that the union will be monitoring the expenditures "very closely" when the annual free-agent spending spree opens on March 5, according to Mark Maske of the Washington Post.

Per Maske, Smith didn't mention the possibility of a collusion charge. But in our view Smith didn't need to. If/when teams don't spend as much as the union thinks the teams should spend, there will be trouble.

We think it will begin with key players like Tom Brady complaining about their respective teams' failure to take advantage of the lack of a spending limit to become more competitive. And we think it will culminate in formal collusion charges.

This is a complex game that consists of equal parts chess and chicken. Smith currently is lining up the pieces for an eventual move based on a contention that the teams have implicitly agreed to enhance their 2011 lockout fund by not spending as much money in 2010 on free agents as they could, or arguably should.

LINK (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/26/de-smith-says-union-will-watch-free-agent-spending/)

infantrycak
02-27-2010, 10:52 AM
This pissing match is going to get ugly.

LINK (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/26/de-smith-says-union-will-watch-free-agent-spending/)

That's just peacocking. Everyone knows there are very few free agents this off-season.

CloakNNNdagger
02-27-2010, 03:02 PM
That's just peacocking. Everyone knows there are very few free agents this off-season.

I was actually referring to the whole NFLPA vs owners thing in the CBA mess........even though owners hold most of the cards.

steelbtexan
02-27-2010, 03:50 PM
The NFLPA should ask this ? in negociations

What would Gene Upshaw do

This wont happen and there will be a lockout.

De is a virgin in these kinds of negociations and is trying to make a name for himself. Instead of doing what's best for the players and the game. IMHO