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TexFan58
03-03-2005, 05:08 PM
Defense looks good, whats next? :thumbup

texan279
03-03-2005, 05:10 PM
I would assume it would be the O line, but I mean hey, I never imagined we would be spending this kind of money the second day of free agency on a LB so what do I know...honestly it does make me think we will address our O line and depth in this years draft and we should be in pretty good shape if we do IMO...

Grid
03-03-2005, 05:11 PM
Probably nothing.. but I wouldnt be surprised if we signed a TE.

WildBlackBear32
03-03-2005, 05:11 PM
whats next? :thumbup

With the money spent on Payne and Greenwood...4th stringers and the draft! WHOOOOOOHOOOO! :thumbdown

texan279
03-03-2005, 05:14 PM
With the money spent on Payne and Greenwood...4th stringers and the draft! WHOOOOOOHOOOO!

I wouldn't worry about the money, we were in OK shape as far as the cap goes before signing Greenwood and Payne and I also have a feeling one of our defensive starters will be released soon and that would free up more space...also, after this signing it wouldn't surprise me if we traded down in the draft but that's just my opinion...

Blake
03-03-2005, 05:14 PM
Kevin Johnson, or Gary Baxter?

TexFan58
03-03-2005, 05:15 PM
My opinion is the Offensive line, leave that to the draft, need an impact TE and #2 WR
DONE......

AndreJ
03-03-2005, 05:31 PM
Signing: Ione, Deloach, Spears and Wright

IMHO we need these 4 too have 0 drop in talent in our back up core....

NOW! We need to use our picks from #2-#7 to infuse some new blood in our lines..

scratch NT = bye bye Demarcus spears
scratch ILB = no Ware or DJ
scratch WR = uhhh we have andre
scratch Rolle and PacMan = errr they wont last till #13 and you cant retire glenn that early

thus #13 is :rolleyes:

Thomas Davis

Scratch Thomas Davis we have Earl and Coleman. Why wouldn't we draft a WR AJ can't do it all by himself

WildBlackBear32
03-03-2005, 05:32 PM
Signing: Ione, Deloach, Spears and Wright

IMHO we need these 4 too have 0 drop in talent in our back up core....

NOW! We need to use our picks from #2-#7 to infuse some new blood in our lines..

scratch NT = bye bye Demarcus spears
scratch ILB = no Ware or DJ
scratch WR = uhhh we have andre
scratch Rolle and PacMan = errr they wont last till #13 and you cant retire glenn that early

thus #13 is :rolleyes:

Thomas Davis


Barron?? Trade down???

texan279
03-03-2005, 05:34 PM
Scratch Thomas Davis we have Earl and Coleman. Why wouldn't we draft a WR AJ can't do it all by himself

Because you would have 2 WR's, one that was a #1 pick, and the 2nd a #13 pick, and a QB who has no time to throw to either of them...

TEXANS84
03-03-2005, 05:36 PM
Because you would have 2 WR's, one that was a #1 pick, and the 2nd a #13 pick, and a QB who has no time to throw to either of them...

I have a feeling we'll see Williamson in a Texans uni, even though what we need is an O-Lineman.

AndreJ
03-03-2005, 05:37 PM
Because you would have 2 WR's, one that was a #1 pick, and the 2nd a #13 pick, and a QB who has no time to throw to either of them...

That still dosen't exclude the fact that we need someone opposite of Andre to take some pressure off of him.

Do yall think there is a TE out there worthy of the number 13 pick?

AlexVanderpool
03-03-2005, 05:39 PM
...and a QB who has no time to throw to either of them...

and an undersized OLB/ oversized, slow SS is going to help this how????

texan279
03-03-2005, 05:40 PM
and an undersized OLB/ oversized, slow SS is going to help this how????

I honestly have no idea what you are talking about....

Blake
03-03-2005, 05:42 PM
and an undersized OLB/ oversized, slow SS is going to help this how????

Texan279 wasnt the guy who said to pick Thomas Davis. So I wouldnt expect Texan279 to answer your question.

I would take Barron.

texan279
03-03-2005, 05:45 PM
I agree with DC and 84, we need an O lineman :thumbup After fixing the O line add a TE and maybe a RB, LB, D lineman, and O lineman in the later rounds we should be good to go...

Tailgate
03-03-2005, 05:58 PM
My plan from here:

We sign Kevin Johson, Draft DL in 1st, OL in 2nd, and CB in 3rd.

kcwilson
03-03-2005, 05:59 PM
Do yall think there is a TE out there worthy of the number 13 pick?


I don't think we can afford to use #13 on a TE... you go for the OL or a WR, however I think that the WR is what will be chosen... Williamson is the likely pick, but it would sure be nice to build the OL. Either that or we need to surgically attach legs on Carr's back so he can run easier after getting knocked down.

Someone earlier posted about Plaxico contacting Houston. Please don't let that cancer in the door. :loser

wiley2002
03-03-2005, 06:06 PM
I agree on the o-line bit but I say we need to work on our d-line moreso than we need to draft a WR with #13. Glad some people here aren't CC. :heh:

texan279
03-03-2005, 06:09 PM
I agree on the o-line bit but I say we need to work on our d-line moreso than we need to draft a WR with #13. Glad some people here aren't CC.

I don't know how we could work on our D line, we just re-signed Payne today, pretty much solidifying Walker, Payne, and Smith as our starting D line unless Walker or Smith was released which I doubt will happen, there is a lot of money tied up in our D line after today...unless you want to use the 13th pick to add depth to the d line... :woot

Blake
03-03-2005, 06:10 PM
Do yall think there is a TE out there worthy of the number 13 pick?

I dont think so. But that is my opinion.

I think we could get someone like Kevin Everett with a 3rd round pick.

wiley2002
03-03-2005, 06:22 PM
I don't know how we could work on our D line, we just re-signed Payne today, pretty much solidifying Walker, Payne, and Smith as our starting D line unless Walker or Smith was released which I doubt will happen, there is a lot of money tied up in our D line after today...unless you want to use the 13th pick to add depth to the d line... :woot
Forgot about resigning Payne. I'm still trying to take in the fact we picked up Greenwood. I'll admit it. I think you just single handedly talked me out of the drafting a DL with #13. I still want someone like David Baas or Barron for our o-line.

Grid
03-03-2005, 07:04 PM
I would like to use the 13th pick to add depth to the line.

why? cause Walker and Payne are old an injury riddled. We need an ace up the sleeve. Getting a talented Dlineman to bring and and give limited playing time. it would take some of the wear and tear off our old vets.. and prepare us for when they leave.

Our needs on the line can be addressed in the 3rd and 4th round.

but then..so could our needs on the Dline be addressed in the 2nd and 3rd.

Maybe we should grab a CB in the first.. and DL and OL in the 2nd - 5th.

something like this

1(#13). Justin Miller (CB) (dunta-like CB)
2(#47). Louis Castillo (DT) (big run stuffer)
3(#73). Eric Shelton (RB) (power running, durable RB)
3b(#78). Jason Brown (OC) (very strong center)
4(#108). Rob Petitti (OT) (OT that made a name for himself by shutting down d. freeney)
5(#142). Boomer Grigsby (LB) (sleeper ILB)
6(#173). Sione Pouha (DT) (old for a rookie.. but talented)
7.(#204). Gerald Sensabaugh (S) (eh.. he looked like a good value)
7b(#206). Steve Fleming (TE) (you could replace this guy with someone else.. i dont care.. i just picked a TE)

Vinny
03-03-2005, 08:42 PM
The best part of signing Payne and Greenwood is we have no gaping starting holes going into the draft on Defense....frankly, the only gaping hole on the roster is Bradford's spot, assuming Joppru plays.

The only real issues are DL depth, bringing in an O-lineman from the draft, and a WR2.

SwampHound
03-03-2005, 08:45 PM
I would take Barron.

I agree, the biggest need we have is on the O-line and Barron is the best out their. No need to overpay for a FA O-lineman (aka Fred Miller) when we can pick up a player like Barron. As far as TE, we may need one but there is no TE in this draft worthy of risking a 1st pick on. :cool:

ledzeppelin229
03-03-2005, 08:51 PM
Having AG right now should not stop us from getting an impact CB if they rate him similar to Dunta

I am so sick of seeing THAT name that he is the one player I hope we DO NOT draft. Not to mention I think he's overrated as a S.

Alex
03-03-2005, 08:57 PM
Personally I hope that the Texans will pursue a good #2 WR like Travis Taylor, Ike Hilliard, Kevin Johnson, Cedric Wilson or Tai Streets. If the Texans can't sign one of them they should resign Corey Bradford for one year and draft Roscoe Parrish or Chris Henry in second round.

And for the O-Line I expect that the Texans will draft Alex Barron who will become a real franchise OT in the NFL (his footwork is so amazing). Maybe the arrival of a o-lineman like Cooper Carlisle, Kendrick Vincent (great starter), Bennie Anderson or Adrian Klemm can help but I think that the Texans O-Lineman (Wade, McKinney, Washington, Pitts, Weary, Wiegert, Brown, Jones, Beasley, Wand) and Alex Barron can make the job.

Also, an additional d-lineman (ex: Kendrick Clancy, Brandon Mitchell, James Reed) to take the place of Jerry DeLoach should be sign. But I don't know why everybody want another tight end. I think that the trio of Miller, Bruener and Joppru did a great job last year.

Finally I have a question:

Do you think Tony Banks will resign with the team ?

If the answer is no, do you think that Dave Ragone is ready to be the backup QB or the Texans must sign another veteran to do the job ?

Honoring Earl 34
03-03-2005, 09:03 PM
:thumbup This is a no brainer take the BPA . If your going to add depth it might as well young and talented .

If I hear Thomas Davis again I'm going burn my sons Georgia shirt .

hot pickle
03-04-2005, 12:18 AM
trade down and get browner, with only 2 years of playing in Oregon St. he needs to have Aaron teach him a thing or 2. then moves to dunta's spot when Glenn Retires and dunta move to glenn's spot. it would work good if glenn retires after 05 season, but he still has 2-3 years on his contract. but I don't think the texans will draft a O-line man in the 1st round

TheOgre
03-04-2005, 08:56 AM
I really hope we have one of the three WR's on the board with the 13th pick. I think that should be our priority. We can shore up DL and OL with 2 of our other 3 first day picks.

I'd like some continuity on the O-line for a year. I think if we keep the same 5 lineman in the same spots for a year, then we will see marked improvement. Don't get me wrong, I still want us to draft O-line in the high to mid rounds (2nd-4th rounds) but not with our #1 pick.

I also think if we can get a #2 WR and a healthy Joppru, then Carr won't have to hold onto the ball as long (someone is actually open!). This will have an indirect impact on the O-line play.

I will be really surprised if we don't take a WR with one of our first two picks (unless we sign a decent veteran one).

dalemurphy
03-04-2005, 10:22 AM
I guess I'm in the minority. I don't see a WR as a need. I think Armstrong and Gaffney alongside Andre Johnson is quite good. Now, depending on the development of Sloan Thomas and Starling, depth may be an issue. However, I certainly don't see a hole that needs filled near the top.