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Hookem Horns
02-11-2010, 02:22 PM
Not exactly the reception the Oilers received in 79 and 80 but hey ...

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100208/SPORTS03/2090305/

Showtime100
02-11-2010, 02:29 PM
-- a Boeing 757 for the official party and an Airbus 330 for the team.

I wonder who gets what after the 2011 strike. Sorry, I read the sentence and had the thought.

StarStruck
02-11-2010, 02:42 PM
Not exactly the reception the Oilers received in 79 and 80 but hey ...

http://www.indystar.com/article/20100208/SPORTS03/2090305/



Somewhat off topic, but I remember when there was a rally planned at City Hall (I think) to show support for the Oilers to stay in Houston. I was in California on business, and it was on the news with video showing only a hand full of people. News reporters are experts in making fans or a team look bad with a smile or a smirk.

Double Barrel
02-11-2010, 02:54 PM
Somewhat off topic, but I remember when there was a rally planned at City Hall (I think) to show support for the Oilers to stay in Houston. I was in California on business, and it was on the news with video showing only a hand full of people. News reporters are experts in making fans or a team look bad with a smile or a smirk.

NOBODY knew about that little rally until after it happened.

Adams had already made his decision to move the team by that point. I hate this is always brought up about Oilers fans, who put over 50,000 booties in the seats for three games during their lame duck season.

Looking at what Tom Benson did with the Saints after Katrina makes you really understand what a despicable human being Bud Adams is for moving his franchise for the only purpose of making more money. I'm glad he regretted it, but little consolation to Houston football fans.

Sorry for the off-topic rant. Your post just pushed a button. :panic:

Khari
02-11-2010, 02:55 PM
it's cold up there

Showtime100
02-11-2010, 03:01 PM
it's cold up there

down here too. :eek:

NitroGSXR
02-11-2010, 03:18 PM
NOBODY knew about that little rally until after it happened.

Adams had already made his decision to move the team by that point. I hate this is always brought up about Oilers fans, who put over 50,000 booties in the seats for three games during their lame duck season.

Looking at what Tom Benson did with the Saints after Katrina makes you really understand what a despicable human being Bud Adams is for moving his franchise for the only purpose of making more money. I'm glad he regretted it, but little consolation to Houston football fans.

Sorry for the off-topic rant. Your post just pushed a button. :panic:

I was a mere teenager but i'm CERTAIN that i knew about the rally beforehand. I'm not sure where i got the info but it had to be either the local newscast or the paper. I vividly remember planning to go and everything alas i didn't.

Double Barrel
02-11-2010, 03:34 PM
I was a mere teenager but i'm CERTAIN that i knew about the rally beforehand. I'm not sure where i got the info but it had to be either the local newscast or the paper. I vividly remember planning to go and everything alas i didn't.

Well, maybe so, but perhaps those that knew about it found it pointless since Adams had already made his decision.

If 50,000 people had showed up, would that change anything? The answer is no, because Adams had already made up his mind and that was that.

Staying away might have been a form of protest since it was pointless and most folks did not like Bud.

One city that isn't generating a fan uproar about its team leaving is Houston. Only 65 of the city's two million residents showed up for a rally last week in Houston to show support for the Oilers staying put and not relocating to Nashville.

The Oilers' owner, Bud Adams, has reached an agreement on a lease for a new stadium to be built in Nashville in time for the Oilers' 1998 season. In the interim, the team is supposed to play two seasons at the Liberty Bowl in Memphis.

Oilers cornerback Darryll Lewis said the players are not in favor of the move.

"The consensus is that we don't want to go to Tennessee," Lewis said. "We like Houston. We like the fans here. But we have no say. It's Bud Adams's team and if he says we're going to Tennessee, we're going to Tennessee."

Source (http://www.nytimes.com/1995/12/10/sports/football-notebook-modell-faces-hurdles-before-browns-move.html?pagewanted=all)

LonerATO
02-11-2010, 03:37 PM
NOBODY knew about that little rally until after it happened.

Adams had already made his decision to move the team by that point. I hate this is always brought up about Oilers fans, who put over 50,000 booties in the seats for three games during their lame duck season.

Looking at what Tom Benson did with the Saints after Katrina makes you really understand what a despicable human being Bud Adams is for moving his franchise for the only purpose of making more money. I'm glad he regretted it, but little consolation to Houston football fans.

Sorry for the off-topic rant. Your post just pushed a button. :panic:

I think there was some back room deals done to keep the Saints in NO instead of moving them to SA where Benson is from. I can remember going to the sold out games played in the Alamo Dome and the team got a good following around town because of that.

Showtime100
02-11-2010, 03:38 PM
The writing was on the wall when Bud pulled the old standby saying "it's not playable" used by all teams sporting artificial turf. I believe San Diego was a little miffed as well seeing how they flew the team all the way to Houston just to find that out.

StarStruck
02-11-2010, 03:47 PM
Well, maybe so, but perhaps those that knew about it found it pointless since Adams had already made his decision.

If 50,000 people had showed up, would that change anything? The answer is no, because Adams had already made up his mind and that was that.

Staying away might have been a form of protest since it was pointless and most folks did not like Bud.

I'm from Houston and I understood. My point was the delivery in California made it appear that Oiler fans couldn't care less that the team was moving and didn't deserve to have them remain in Houston. I think that most fans don't show up to meet the team that lost. If memory serves correctly, I thought the big Oiler pep rally was somewhat of a consolation because the team was robbed.

NitroGSXR
02-11-2010, 03:52 PM
Well, maybe so, but perhaps those that knew about it found it pointless since Adams had already made his decision.

If 50,000 people had showed up, would that change anything? The answer is no, because Adams had already made up his mind and that was that.

Staying away might have been a form of protest since it was pointless and most folks did not like Bud.

I mostly agree here. I just don't really buy the copout that the fanbase didn't know about the rally. I mean... If i knew about it... Aw man... I remember seeing bumper stickers that said... GO OILERS AND TAKE THE ASTROS WITH YOU! There has been a severe disconnect with the Oilers organization and the fans before they left. It's been there since the threat of moving to Jacksonville.

Double Barrel
02-11-2010, 05:49 PM
I think there was some back room deals done to keep the Saints in NO instead of moving them to SA where Benson is from. I can remember going to the sold out games played in the Alamo Dome and the team got a good following around town because of that.

But, regardless of the circumstances, he still made the decision to stay in New Orleans. He could have been an asshat like Bud and found another city, but he did not, and the Superdome was in 1000x worse shape than the Astrodome when Bud left (much less the state of New Orleans and the fan base).

The writing was on the wall when Bud pulled the old standby saying "it's not playable" used by all teams sporting artificial turf. I believe San Diego was a little miffed as well seeing how they flew the team all the way to Houston just to find that out.

yeah, that ol' buzzard was planning it all along. He pulled it when he threatened to move to Jacksonville a few years before that and got $60 million in renovations to the 'dome. I think he's always been unscrupulous and that move just proved it so.

I'm from Houston and I understood. My point was the delivery in California made it appear that Oiler fans couldn't care less that the team was moving and didn't deserve to have them remain in Houston. I think that most fans don't show up to meet the team that lost. If memory serves correctly, I thought the big Oiler pep rally was somewhat of a consolation because the team was robbed.

I didn't mean to point a finger at you or anything. :)

The big Oilers pep rally after the Steelers loss is still considered a record for the biggest in NFL history, IIRC.

I mostly agree here. I just don't really buy the copout that the fanbase didn't know about the rally. I mean... If i knew about it... Aw man... I remember seeing bumper stickers that said... GO OILERS AND TAKE THE ASTROS WITH YOU! There has been a severe disconnect with the Oilers organization and the fans before they left. It's been there since the threat of moving to Jacksonville.

Well, it must depend on the circle you're in. I sent out an e-mail and made some calls to my old football buddies (including both of my folks who had season tickets for years), and to be honest, NONE of them remember knowing anything about that rally until after it happened and they learned it on the news. It was just a small poll of about 20 people, but like I said, it was not well advertised before it happened.

Not that it would have made much difference about going if they had known or in Bud's mind since his decision was already made at that point.

I remember the bumper stickers, though, but that does not necessarily reflect the feelings of all Oilers fans. Some of us loved that team until the end, which then fermented into a raging hatred for that gigantic jerk.

Texan_Bill
02-11-2010, 06:07 PM
But, regardless of the circumstances, he still made the decision to stay in New Orleans. He could have been an asshat like Bud and found another city, but he did not, and the Superdome was in 1000x worse shape than the Astrodome when Bud left (much less the state of New Orleans and the fan base).



yeah, that ol' buzzard was planning it all along. He pulled it when he threatened to move to Jacksonville a few years before that and got $60 million in renovations to the 'dome. I think he's always been unscrupulous and that move just proved it so.



I didn't mean to point a finger at you or anything. :)

The big Oilers pep rally after the Steelers loss is still considered a record for the biggest in NFL history, IIRC.



Well, it must depend on the circle you're in. I sent out an e-mail and made some calls to my old football buddies (including both of my folks who had season tickets for years), and to be honest, NONE of them remember knowing anything about that rally until after it happened and they learned it on the news. It was just a small poll of about 20 people, but like I said, it was not well advertised before it happened.

Not that it would have made much difference about going if they had known or in Bud's mind since his decision was already made at that point.

I remember the bumper stickers, though, but that does not necessarily reflect the feelings of all Oilers fans. Some of us loved that team until the end, which then fermented into a raging hatred for that gigantic jerk.

That describes me, spot on.

JB
02-11-2010, 06:51 PM
But, regardless of the circumstances, he still made the decision to stay in New Orleans. He could have been an asshat like Bud and found another city, but he did not, and the Superdome was in 1000x worse shape than the Astrodome when Bud left (much less the state of New Orleans and the fan base).



yeah, that ol' buzzard was planning it all along. He pulled it when he threatened to move to Jacksonville a few years before that and got $60 million in renovations to the 'dome. I think he's always been unscrupulous and that move just proved it so.



I didn't mean to point a finger at you or anything. :)

The big Oilers pep rally after the Steelers loss is still considered a record for the biggest in NFL history, IIRC.



Well, it must depend on the circle you're in. I sent out an e-mail and made some calls to my old football buddies (including both of my folks who had season tickets for years), and to be honest, NONE of them remember knowing anything about that rally until after it happened and they learned it on the news. It was just a small poll of about 20 people, but like I said, it was not well advertised before it happened.

Not that it would have made much difference about going if they had known or in Bud's mind since his decision was already made at that point.

I remember the bumper stickers, though, but that does not necessarily reflect the feelings of all Oilers fans. Some of us loved that team until the end, which then fermented into a raging hatred for that gigantic jerk.

IIRC it was planned by one radio station. If you listened, it was talked about for about a week. But Butt had already made his decision to move and had already agreed to terms with Tickville so mostly nobody gave a crap about the rally.

I was there for about 5 of the home games that final season, and I remembered being embarrased that the Oiler fans were outnumbered by the Steeler fans.

BUCK FUD!!!:pirate:

Red_Zone
02-11-2010, 08:08 PM
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NitroGSXR
02-11-2010, 08:44 PM
IIRC it was planned by one radio station. If you listened, it was talked about for about a week. But Butt had already made his decision to move and had already agreed to terms with Tickville so mostly nobody gave a crap about the rally.

I was there for about 5 of the home games that final season, and I remembered being embarrased that the Oiler fans were outnumbered by the Steeler fans.

BUCK FUD!!!:pirate:

I certainly didn't get the info from the radio. THAT I am certain of. Lol.

NitroGSXR
02-11-2010, 08:56 PM
But, regardless of the circumstances, he still made the decision to stay in New Orleans. He could have been an asshat like Bud and found another city, but he did not, and the Superdome was in 1000x worse shape than the Astrodome when Bud left (much less the state of New Orleans and the fan base).



yeah, that ol' buzzard was planning it all along. He pulled it when he threatened to move to Jacksonville a few years before that and got $60 million in renovations to the 'dome. I think he's always been unscrupulous and that move just proved it so.



I didn't mean to point a finger at you or anything. :)

The big Oilers pep rally after the Steelers loss is still considered a record for the biggest in NFL history, IIRC.



Well, it must depend on the circle you're in. I sent out an e-mail and made some calls to my old football buddies (including both of my folks who had season tickets for years), and to be honest, NONE of them remember knowing anything about that rally until after it happened and they learned it on the news. It was just a small poll of about 20 people, but like I said, it was not well advertised before it happened.

Not that it would have made much difference about going if they had known or in Bud's mind since his decision was already made at that point.

I remember the bumper stickers, though, but that does not necessarily reflect the feelings of all Oilers fans. Some of us loved that team until the end, which then fermented into a raging hatred for that gigantic jerk.

I wasn't singling anybody out either. I think we all are diehards here. Even secondhoneymoon. Most of us are here for the Texans. The fact remains is that there were a lot of people who wanted both the Astros and the Oilers out. I believe that we as a fanbase took professional sports for granted somewhat. It's all good! We've got a better organization now so it all worked out in the end but i was hurt bad when the Oilers left. I won't take THE Texans for granted that's for sure.

Red_Zone
02-11-2010, 08:57 PM
I certainly didn't get the info from the radio. THAT I am certain of. Lol.

What, your radio doesn't have closed captioning? :D

LonerATO
02-11-2010, 09:13 PM
I wasn't singling anybody out either. I think we all are diehards here. Even secondhoneymoon. Most of us are here for the Texans. The fact remains is that there were a lot of people who wanted both the Astros and the Oilers out. I believe that we as a fanbase took professional sports for granted somewhat. It's all good! We've got a better organization now so it all worked out in the end but i was hurt bad when the Oilers left. I won't take THE Texans for granted that's for sure.

I wont lie, I am still hurt over that team leaving and it gets worse when I see old highlights of the Oilers. I enjoyed watching Full Color Football, but felt empty afterwards.

NitroGSXR
02-11-2010, 09:15 PM
What, your radio doesn't have closed captioning? :D

Actually it does have closed captioning. Comes out on a braille machine. I just don't read braille.

Hervoyel
02-11-2010, 09:24 PM
I distinctly remember hearing about the B.S. "exclusive right to negotiate" deal that Nashville had and thinking that was pretty much the writing on the wall right there. Then when it was announced that a deal had been reached between Adams and Nashville I knew that it was over. I didn't go to the rally though I knew it was taking place. I didn't see the point. Adams is old now and regrets his decision but NFL owners have a lot of money and can pay for a lot of health care. That old mummy will live a few more years and before he goes I want him to live to see the city of Houston beating his teams ass regularly. That's really all I want out of the Texans. I'm like one of Khan's crewmen in Star Trek II. "Avenge Me!"

Red_Zone
02-11-2010, 10:00 PM
Actually it does have closed captioning. Comes out on a braille machine. I just don't read braille.

LOL, Touché!

Double Barrel
02-12-2010, 10:25 AM
IIRC it was planned by one radio station. If you listened, it was talked about for about a week. But Butt had already made his decision to move and had already agreed to terms with Tickville so mostly nobody gave a crap about the rally.

I was there for about 5 of the home games that final season, and I remembered being embarrased that the Oiler fans were outnumbered by the Steeler fans.

BUCK FUD!!!:pirate:

Interesting. I was probably tuning out by that point. There wasn't a 24 hour sports channel on the radio in Houston back then, IIRC. So I was probably so disgusted with losing our team that I just didn't care to listen.

I certainly believe y'all, because you remember it. My circle of friends/family got pretty cynical about Bud, so we probably all tuned out when they were trying to plan the rally.

I wasn't singling anybody out either. I think we all are diehards here. Even secondhoneymoon. Most of us are here for the Texans. The fact remains is that there were a lot of people who wanted both the Astros and the Oilers out. I believe that we as a fanbase took professional sports for granted somewhat. It's all good! We've got a better organization now so it all worked out in the end but i was hurt bad when the Oilers left. I won't take THE Texans for granted that's for sure.

It's all good, man. Like I said, y'all remember it so I have no doubt that the rally got some pub. But yeah, Houstonians were disgusted with the sports franchises and the money grab at that point, but it obviously didn't last long, 'eh?

I distinctly remember hearing about the B.S. "exclusive right to negotiate" deal that Nashville had and thinking that was pretty much the writing on the wall right there. Then when it was announced that a deal had been reached between Adams and Nashville I knew that it was over. I didn't go to the rally though I knew it was taking place. I didn't see the point. Adams is old now and regrets his decision but NFL owners have a lot of money and can pay for a lot of health care. That old mummy will live a few more years and before he goes I want him to live to see the city of Houston beating his teams ass regularly. That's really all I want out of the Texans. I'm like one of Khan's crewmen in Star Trek II. "Avenge Me!"

yep, pretty much goes with what I was saying earlier. Even if I had known about the rally, I doubt I would have attended. I'm pretty sure that Bud had announced that he was taking the records/official history with the franchise, and since he was the only owner, he could pull it off without the NFL doing much about it.

Completely different situation than the Browns, who began in 1946 and won four NFL championships. They had a leg to stand on to demand the franchise records whereas the Oilers were just buried in some backwater state.

I kinda' wonder if the NFL regrets not forcing the issue, because the legacy of the Houston Oilers will be forgotten when my generation and older passes on. It's a damn shame.

JDizzle
02-12-2010, 11:24 AM
That old mummy will live a few more years and before he goes I want him to live to see the city of Houston beating his teams ass regularly. That's really all I want out of the Texans. I'm like one of Khan's crewmen in Star Trek II. "Avenge Me!"

Screw that, I want him to one day see McNair holding a Lombardi trophy on TV while he cries tears of warm metamucil. And if I ever see him holding one, well, god help us all.