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HoustonFrog
02-10-2010, 10:23 PM
This goes through each round so open if you want more

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/342894-houston-texans-2010-draft-best-case-worst-case-and-most-likely

First Round

Best Case: Earl Thomas (S-Texas). The Texans' secondary is a huge area of need and this was no more evident than when Eugene Wilson went down and the team had to rely on Dominique Barber and John Busing. There are no corners who could be available when the Texans pick that have me excited, and it may be a stretch to think Thomas could be there, but if he is, he can be the type of ball hawking safety the Texans have been lacking since, well, since forever.

Worst Case: Patrick Robinson (CB- Florida State). Following that same logic for Thomas, the Texans can't throw away their pick on a player who won't help. Robinson has prototypical size and great tangibles, but he hasn't been able to harness it and is not very physical. The Texans improved their defense this season when they became more physical and they always ask their corners to tackle well. They also play a lot of man coverage and Robinson was burnt too much in college. I also considered a myriad of running backs here as a first round pick here would not be the way to go.

Most Likely: Dan Williams (DT- Tennessee). I could have easily put this under "Best Case" as I think he's a great option. The Texans have needs at DT, but they do NOT need another 300 pound under tackle. They need a big body who can hold the point of attack, defend against the run and give Amobi and Mario a chance to run free. Williams would be a great option at 19 or 20—unlike Terrence Cody who needs oxygen after warm-ups.

Second Round

Best Case: Maurkice Pouncey (C- Florida). I know this won't happen as the coaches for some reason loves Chris Meyers, but the fact is, Meyers sucks. The team drafted Antoine Caldwell last year as a backup, but he's more suited for guard. Even if we keep him at center, Pouncey is athletic enough to be a great guard in the zone blocking scheme, so this could kill two birds with one stone. Of course, he may not make it to our pick.

Worst Case: Jonathan Dwyer (RB- Georgia Tech). I think Dwyer will be a really good pro, and is good value in the second round, but he just doesn't fit the Texans needs. The Texans need a running back who can step in and contribute soon, but Dwyer's time in the triple option mean he has very little experience catching the ball out of the backfield and in pass protection—two areas absolutely critical for a Houston back.

Most Likely: Morgan Burnett (S- Georgia Tech). If we assume that the Texans have drafted Dan Williams in the first, they still need a safety and Morgan Burnett can fill that need. I realize he doesn't have the tackling ability that I just bashed Robinson on, but he does have the ball skills. If the team can make him a better tackler, he might just fill that need.

Texan4Ever
02-10-2010, 10:33 PM
I hope the "Best Case" occurs in reality come April. Earl Thomas next to Bernard Pollard would make for an excellent tandem and Maurkice Pouncy will provide us with an immediate upgrade over Chris Myers (and I am sure Schaub would be happy with that!)

steelbtexan
02-10-2010, 11:24 PM
Give me Dwyer and Pouncey and the running game just got alot better.

Schaub also gets hit less and has more time to throw with the threat of a run game.

This draft would put the Texans in the top 5 in red zone offense.

Another benefit is this draft would allow the Texans to do what the Saints did to the Mannings/Colts. Keep them off the field. If you want to compete on the same level as the Colts this is the fastest way to do it. IMO

Texan4Ever
02-10-2010, 11:31 PM
Give me Dwyer and Pouncey and the running game just got alot better.

Schaub also gets hit less and has more time to throw with the threat of a run game.

This draft would put the Texans in the top 5 in red zone offense.

Another benefit is this draft would allow the Texans to do what the Saints did to the Mannings/Colts. Keep them off the field. If you want to compete on the same level as the Colts this is the fastest way to do it. IMO




You also need to play defense. The Texans continue to give more points against then points for. If our defense can hold the opponent from scoring on us then there is less pressure on our offense.

stingray
02-10-2010, 11:43 PM
You also need to play defense. The Texans continue to give more points against then points for. If our defense can hold the opponent from scoring on us then there is less pressure on our offense.

2009/Texans PF 24.2 PA 20.8

threetoedpete
02-11-2010, 08:16 AM
Eric Winston, Antoine Caldwell, Kasey Stoddard and Chris Myers fill out the rest of the line. It’s a bit early to make major adjustments because it’s still a very young group with the potential to gel as a unit in due time. However, Chris Myers is in the lower tier of starting Centers and may need to be replaced.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/341730-ten-prospects-for-texans-to-watch-closely-at-combine

The Texans don't need no stinking lineman. They's gonna gel....over time.

And what I know is Kubiak isn't going to replace Myers. He hasn't done it yet. I mean, it's a good idea Bleacher. But it ain't going to happen. They have three centers on the roster now. All Kubiak did for five months is cry about the lost rushing attack. They left Myers alone. If Iupati falls to twenty that'll be the pick. They get to leave Myers at center . Iupati and Winston provide punch to the right side. Caldwell and Studdard fight it out for Left guard.

HOU-TEX
02-11-2010, 11:03 AM
Not a big fan of CB Robinson, but could definitely live with Thomas or Williams. I'd be happy with Pouncey in the 2nd. I'm not sure how I'd feel with a RB that early. It wouldn't upset me, but I'd rather spend the pick on the trenches and go RB in the 3rd.

Admittedly, I don't know much about Burnett. Anyone?

Corrosion
02-11-2010, 11:03 AM
Give me Dwyer and Pouncey and the running game just got alot better.

Schaub also gets hit less and has more time to throw with the threat of a run game.

This draft would put the Texans in the top 5 in red zone offense.

Another benefit is this draft would allow the Texans to do what the Saints did to the Mannings/Colts. Keep them off the field. If you want to compete on the same level as the Colts this is the fastest way to do it. IMO

Would you settle for this ?

1) Earl Thomas
2) Maurkice Pouncey
3) Toby Gerhart


If Gerhart doesnt have a really good combine I think he may well fall that far. I dont really think Thomas will be there @ 20 but its best case in this instance , same for Pouncey.

steelbtexan
02-11-2010, 11:12 AM
2009/Texans PF 24.2 PA 20.8

Yeah

With quality additiond to the OL and RB positions that number could jump to 30pts a game. Which would make them hard to beat.

There will be stater level qualitiy players at CB,S,DT in rds 3-4. Iwant the Texans to trade up into the 3rd rd. using future draft picks.

Rd1 Dwyer
Rd2Pouncey
Rd3 Spievey
Rd3 Burnett
Rd4 Troup

Doesn't look bad to me.

HOU-TEX
02-11-2010, 11:12 AM
Would you settle for this ?

1) Earl Thomas
2) Maurkice Pouncey
3) Toby Gerhart


If Gerhart doesnt have a really good combine I think he may well fall that far. I dont really think Thomas will be there @ 20 but its best case in this instance , same for Pouncey.

Dunno about him, but I'd dot my drawers with that 1st day haul.

Yes, I still call rounds 1-3 the first day cuz that's the way it should be

JB
02-11-2010, 11:19 AM
Would you settle for this ?

1) Earl Thomas
2) Maurkice Pouncey
3) Toby Gerhart


If Gerhart doesnt have a really good combine I think he may well fall that far. I dont really think Thomas will be there @ 20 but its best case in this instance , same for Pouncey.

If not Gerhart I would love to have
Thomas
Pouncey
Tate

steelbtexan
02-11-2010, 03:56 PM
If not Gerhart I would love to have
Thomas
Pouncey
Tate

This

Corrosion I'm worried about Gerharts fumbling problems. That's why I like Tate more. If Gerhart can solve his fumbling issues he would be my first choice.

I do believe this is a realistic 3 rd mock. Smithiak will have to choose between Gerhart and Tate. This is a good spot to be in and wichever one they chose between Gerhart and Tate I wouldn't have a problem with.

Corrosion
02-11-2010, 04:33 PM
This

Corrosion I'm worried about Gerharts fumbling problems. That's why I like Tate more. If Gerhart can solve his fumbling issues he would be my first choice.

I do believe this is a realistic 3 rd mock. Smithiak will have to choose between Gerhart and Tate. This is a good spot to be in and wichever one they chose between Gerhart and Tate I wouldn't have a problem with.

You know I was the first to point out how he carry's the ball - Im not real high on Gerhart - I just put him in as a spur of the moment thing .... I'd probably prefer Tate myself.
Filling those three positions is almost a must for this team. I think with each of those picks (the 3rd being either Tate or Gerhart) you get value at the pick and fill a need.

steelbtexan
02-11-2010, 09:14 PM
You know I was the first to point out how he carry's the ball - Im not real high on Gerhart - I just put him in as a spur of the moment thing .... I'd probably prefer Tate myself.
Filling those three positions is almost a must for this team. I think with each of those picks (the 3rd being either Tate or Gerhart) you get value at the pick and fill a need.

Thanks for pointing the fumbling thing about Gerhart out.

DiehardChris
02-11-2010, 10:37 PM
Gah, Bleacher Report is horrible, horrible, horrible. Unless the author is Robert Vega.

DiehardChris
02-11-2010, 10:40 PM
If Pouncey lasts to us in the second round, I will as someone else to eat their shoe.

steelbtexan
02-11-2010, 10:49 PM
If Pouncey lasts to us in the second round, I will as someone else to eat their shoe.

I dont thnk Pouncey will last unil the Texans 2nd rd pick.

Some alternatives Asamoah 2nd rd Kyle Calloway OL Iowa 3rd/4th

Wolf6151
02-12-2010, 12:28 AM
My best case scenario would be:
1. Dan Williams-DT
2. Maurkice Pouncey-C/OG
3. Ben Tate-RB

My most likely would be:
1. Earl Thomas-FS, Kyle Wilson-CB, or C.J. Spiller-RB
2. Mike Johnson-OG
3. Ben Tate-RB

My worst case scenario would be:
1. Patrick Robinson-CB
2. Toby Gerhart-RB
3. WPA.

Goatcheese
02-12-2010, 10:09 AM
The Texans have needs at DT, but they do NOT need another 300 pound under tackle. They need a big body who can hold the point of attack, defend against the run and give Amobi and Mario a chance to run free.

I'm not sure what they mean by "another" 300 lb DT. Okoye is listed at 315.

http://www.nfl.com/players/amobiokoye/profile?id=OKO541722

He also looks like he might have grown an inch or two.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/91246367.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D014FAAB86BE4277F6 16D0A120A5438FD442F1EB6C1F368644E30A760B0D811297

infantrycak
02-12-2010, 10:15 AM
I'm not sure what they mean by "another" 300 lb DT. Okoye is listed at 315.

http://www.nfl.com/players/amobiokoye/profile?id=OKO541722

He also looks like he might have grown an inch or two.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/91246367.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D014FAAB86BE4277F6 16D0A120A5438FD442F1EB6C1F368644E30A760B0D811297

Thanks for the pic I guess. Do they not where cups anymore?

HoustonFrog
02-12-2010, 10:46 AM
Gah, Bleacher Report is horrible, horrible, horrible. Unless the author is Robert Vega.

Vega did this article.

HOU-TEX
02-12-2010, 10:56 AM
Thanks for the pic I guess. Do they not where cups anymore?

:spit: I wasn't going to be that guy that mentioned something about it. I'm glad you took one for the team.

BTW, Cushing and D-Ryans are *******in beasts!! As long as they remain healthy they're going to be a blast to watch every week. Another DT or two our front 7 will be dang near tops in the league.

steelbtexan
02-12-2010, 11:11 AM
I'm not sure what they mean by "another" 300 lb DT. Okoye is listed at 315.

http://www.nfl.com/players/amobiokoye/profile?id=OKO541722

He also looks like he might have grown an inch or two.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/91246367.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D014FAAB86BE4277F6 16D0A120A5438FD442F1EB6C1F368644E30A760B0D811297

I think he means a DT that weighs over 300lbs is a mean SOB with a great work ethic.

Which doesn't describe Okoye at all.

Funny about the inch thing. Looks like the water is cold and its deep too

Insideop
02-12-2010, 04:57 PM
I'm not sure what they mean by "another" 300 lb DT. Okoye is listed at 315.

http://www.nfl.com/players/amobiokoye/profile?id=OKO541722

He also looks like he might have grown an inch or two.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/91246367.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D014FAAB86BE4277F6 16D0A120A5438FD442F1EB6C1F368644E30A760B0D811297

The Texans web site on NFL.com has him listed at 296. :confused:

DiehardChris
02-14-2010, 01:48 PM
Vega did this article.

He did, and notice how it's coherent and well-researched. Not something I ever see at that site.

Kudos to Vega on this one... I like a lot of his choices.

Texan4Ever
02-14-2010, 01:53 PM
The Texans web site on NFL.com has him listed at 296. :confused:


I doubt Okoye is at 315-lbs, he looks more like 296-lbs to me, underweight for a DT if you ask me...

bah007
02-14-2010, 02:46 PM
I doubt Okoye is at 315-lbs, he looks more like 296-lbs to me, underweight for a DT if you ask me...

Weight is really overrated. I don't care how much my DT weighs. I only care if he is strong enough to do his job. How much does Tommie Harris weigh? 295? I bet you wouldn't say he is underweight. That guy never gets pushed around.

Now it's true that bigger guys are usually stronger. But I think too many people just look at a guy's height and weight and make blanket assumptions about him based on just that.

Btw, not saying you are wrong about Okoye as I would like to see him get a little stronger.

DiehardChris
02-15-2010, 03:36 AM
Not to beat a dead horse, but here's the latest Bleacher Report article about the Texans.

This is a perfect example (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/344285-2010-nfl-draft-houston-looks-to-continue-to-build-through-draft) of what I'm talking about.

First of all - he discusses if we should "sing" Kevin Walter.

Then, you know - two of the top three guys to watch in the first round for the Texans are... WRs.

Also, this:
Even though they have one of the top offenses in the league, they have already invested many first-round picks there, and they need to let those players develop.

Yeah, let's go through the long list of many first-round offensive players on the Texans that still need to develop:

David Carr - oh right, not on the team.
Andre Johnson - true, he sucks and definitely needs to develop further.
Duane Brown - you got me there.

So... it's Duane Brown. He's the only one that fits the description.

Picks:
20th overall
Late second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks
A second sixth-round pick (middle)

It's not determined yet what their pick will be. It might be 19 or 20.
It's also not OFFICIALLY determined yet if they got an extra fifth or sixth rounder. Everything we've seen so far is pure speculation and there has been no official word from anyone connected with the team.

If he does make the move, though, that leaves Chester Pitts, whose a free agent this off-season, and Kasey Studdard, who’s a free agent next year.

Sigh. Just... sigh.

First Round Targets



DeMaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech

You’ll probably hear me hype up Thomas for the next three months until the draft, and hopefully you’ll see his rise on draft day. Thomas is an outstanding athlete who can draw attention to himself from defenses, allowing for even more production out of Andre Johnson.



Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech

Slaton will need a complement if he’s going to be the feature back in Houston, and a power guy like Dwyer could be that perfect complement. Dwyer has enough breakaway speed that he could possibly take over the reins if Slaton continues to struggle.



Brandon LaFell, WR, LSU

If they can’t get the ultra-talented Thomas, I think they may have to reach a little bit to get a power receiver like LaFell. He may fit better in this offense than Thomas as he can go across the middle and can be effective on both middle crossing routes as well as screen passes. He reminds me a lot of Terrell Owens.



2nd Round Targets


Charles Scott, RB, LSU

If the Texans do go receiver in round one, which I think is a very strong possibility, they will be targeting a running back early on in the draft after that. After Dwyer and Gerhart, who’s likely to get taken early in the second round, the best remaining power back is Charles Scott, who reminds a lot of scouts of Marion Barber.



Jon Asamoah, OG, Illinois

With Iupati, the presumed top guard in this draft class, almost a lock to be gone in the top 40 picks, Asamoah is the best remaining zone blocking guard in this class, and is a great fit for Gary Kubiak’s offense.



Later Round Target


Lonyae Miller, RB, Fresno State

The Texans are obviously targeting a running back based on what they’ve looked at this offseason according to reports and sources. Miller is a deep sleeper they could grab after their first running back in this draft, especially if they lose both Chris Brown and Ryan Moats.


Several first and second round targets, and a late round target... um, how about a defensive back? A defensive lineman? How about ANY mention whatsoever about the defense! No?

Bad grammar. Bad spelling. No research, and seemingly no knowledge of the Texans at all. This is what Bleacher Report gives us 9 times out of 10. As a Texans blogger who puts in real time and research, and ALWAYS proofreads heavily - this kind of crap really gets under my skin. It gives blogs in general a bad name... especially when the Chron.com site literally plasters the Bleacher Report links ALL OVER their front sports page!

Unbelievable.

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