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texansfan88
03-02-2005, 09:53 PM
not sure who the dude was but he said that Burress was supposed to visit Houston tommorow. Not sure how reliable this guy is, he's the same one that said Mason was going to Jacksonville...

Sarg01
03-02-2005, 09:54 PM
Half of the league said Mason was likely going to Jacksonville (including ESPN and SI) so don't judge too harshly on that one point.

Panther5407
03-02-2005, 09:59 PM
I like Burress and that be awesome to have him.

Panther5407
03-02-2005, 10:04 PM
Anyone know what type of contract he would have?

Sarg01
03-02-2005, 10:17 PM
Its too early to speculate on contract, but Mason stole a lot of his thunder. I know Plax has said he wants a warm-weather team. I suppose the question will be how important that is to him. While some have said he's looking to be #1, he's made other comments that implied he wants the ball more (and Pitt runs an offense that makes even us look downright Martzian) and doesn't care much about #1 vs. #2. I think it's reasonable to note that Andre Johnson would pull a lot more secondary attention than Hines Ward. Not bashing on Ward, who's one of my favorite non-Texan players, but he's not a deep threat in anyone's book. Also probably important to him is there's no clear challenger for the #2 spot on the Texans, so Burress wouldn't have to worry about losing his starting spot.

Eyeguy
03-02-2005, 10:20 PM
This is the one guy out there that can have more of an effect on the furture of this team than anyone else avalible. Just look how it changes your mock draft. Great to pair with A.J., who would be #1? If you only get 1 player, this should be it.

Panther5407
03-02-2005, 10:22 PM
Burress is awesome. Isn't he the reciever during the first Pats-Steelers game in the commercail that gave the ball to the kids in the stands?

Sarg01
03-02-2005, 10:24 PM
I agree with everyone that Burress would be great for the Texans. I'm just not convinced Burress thinks the Texans would be great for him, so I worry about the money necessary to pull such a deal off.

If we did sign him, our people better find a way to protect Carr, because passing will need to ramp up to make proper use of the guy.

cptnbreakdance
03-02-2005, 10:25 PM
If this is all true and Plax signs, we will be sitten' pretty with a good idea of what we need in the draft. That takes care of our little #2 WR problem. So we could go after BPA in the draft (i.e. DJ, Pac-Man, T. Davis), D- Line, or O-Line.
and that would make life a whole lot easier.

I just dont know how his contract would affect our cap and rookie signing ability.

Texans Pride
03-02-2005, 10:28 PM
So we could go after BPA in the draft (i.e. DJ, Pac-Man, T. Davis), D- Line, or O-Line and that would make life a whole lot easier.

It doesn't matter if we get Burress or any other high name free agent, Cass has already stated we will take BPA anytime.

Panther5407
03-02-2005, 10:28 PM
If this is all true and Plax signs, we will be sitten' pretty with a good idea of what we need in the draft. That takes care of our little #2 WR problem. So we could go after BPA in the draft (i.e. DJ, Pac-Man, T. Davis), D- Line, or O-Line.
and that would make life a whole lot easier.

I just dont know how his contract would affect our cap and rookie signing ability.

ya, but its not like we ever go after the big players anyways. but ya never know, this could be the year.

Rosusu
03-02-2005, 10:30 PM
Plax is a great reciever and I would love to have him on the Texans. I hope he really wants warm weather, because Houston does have it. We are also a great franchise and I hope he sees that if he actually is coming to visit. I am actually really excited about the oppurtunity of maybe getting him, that would be awesome. :thumbup

WildBlackBear32
03-02-2005, 10:31 PM
Burress is awesome. Isn't he the reciever during the first Pats-Steelers game in the commercail that gave the ball to the kids in the stands?

Twas him, but that shouldnt put aside any maturity issues that may have been presented about him. Moss gave balls to disabled kids a few times last season and he clearly still has maturity issues.

Panther5407
03-02-2005, 10:33 PM
Twas him, but that shouldnt put aside any maturity issues that may have been presented about him. Moss gave balls to disabled kids a few times last season and he clearly still has maturity issues.

O ya I know, I was just checking. All in all though, he seems to be a pretty good guy but with my luck he probally has done stuff I didnt know about.

Dionysus22
03-02-2005, 10:38 PM
It doesn't matter if we get Burress or any other high name free agent, Cass has already stated we will take BPA anytime.

Enough about this "BPA" non-sense! It's a total cover-up! It's like when you were a kid and your parents told you, "just do the best you can" and what they really meant was, "Slaughter everybody!"

TheTim5125
03-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Is this true that Plex is coming to houston for an interview? wow it would be amazing.

cptnbreakdance
03-02-2005, 10:49 PM
I guess i didnt make it that clear, what i was saying was that we dont have to worry about WR IF Plax signs, we would go after BPA anyway but that just takes the WR BLA off the list, Cross your fingers

ThaShark316
03-02-2005, 10:52 PM
Marc Vandermeer: Texans to the line, 2 receivers left and right. 3rd and 14 from the Jaguar 34...Carr back to pass, flushed to his right, throws over the middle...its caught by Burress at the 15, at the 10, the 5..HES IN!!! ROCK N ROLL! TOUCHDOWN HOUSTON!!!

:heh:

Just a lil wishful thinking. :thumbup

Honoring Earl 34
03-02-2005, 10:53 PM
:woot If our biggest need is the DL / OL and you pass on ( fill in the blank ) to take Alex Barron . Alex is a 7.0 on a scale of 1-10 and you pass on an 8.5 and two 8.0s for him . Next year you have a chance to get a 7.5 OT with the 22 pick but wait we drafted Barron who's a 7.0 last year at 13 . :thumbdown

Dionysus22
03-02-2005, 10:57 PM
It's not nonsense, its reality. It costs too much money to take lesser talent and pay them like more talented players. BPA is pretty much a given in the top half of the first round unless you are looking at two prospects with the same kind of grades. Dunta Robinson was BPA last year. That worked out fairly well.

That was because we needed a corner. If we needed a running back we would have gotten Steven Jackson or if we needed a TE we would have gotten Winslow. They were rated #1 at their positions. If that were the case we wouldn't have picked Carr in our first draft. He wasn't the best player available, he was the best player at the position we needed to fill. That's my point. If we wanted best player then, we would have gone with Peppers, Shockey or even Mike Williams at OT wouldn't have been a bad #1.

wags
03-02-2005, 11:08 PM
If that were the case we wouldn't have picked Carr in our first draft. He wasn't the best player available, he was the best player at the position we needed to fill.

IMO Carr was the BPA. 4300 yards and 42 TD's is pretty good.

Honoring Earl 34
03-02-2005, 11:11 PM
:thumbup I remember Carr getting a good grade . The Texans also liked Carr for his demeanor . He was the top ranked QB with a wife and baby . He was a well grounded player at the most important position on the field . He was to be the face of the team . Not many could do this and stay focused .

keyfro
03-02-2005, 11:24 PM
all i'm gonna say about the possiblity of burress coming to houston is this...if you pair him and andre up you are gonna have one of the tallest receiver duos in the country...you're gonna be giving carr no reason not to throw the ball 40+ times a game and we'll have to get better o-lineman...our offense will have to be a pass first run second offense...deep routes will have to come into play more...and i think it'll make watching the texans play a lot more fun...now realistically do i think this is gonna happen...no...i think casserly is sticking to his guns about not signing any big time contracts which is sad cause sometimes i think we need to...especially with 16 million under the cap

Grid
03-02-2005, 11:26 PM
after signing payne to possibly 4mil a year. and and faggins to 1mil.. and putting aside about 5 mil for rookies.. and maybe another few mil for any other minor signings we do (like Greenwood or whatever his name is).. we are looking more like 4-5 million under the cap.

infantrycak
03-02-2005, 11:39 PM
after signing payne to possibly 4mil a year. .

Payne's cap hit this year will almost certainly be less than 4 mil--they almost always back load contracts. His prorated signing bonus is like $1.15. His salary may be similar for a cap hit of about $2.5 mil.

Dionysus22
03-02-2005, 11:41 PM
Marcus Coleman had a fine year the year before. He was one of the league leaders in interceptions and passes defensed. CB was not a great need.

How do you know that the Texans didn't have as high a grade on Carr as they had on Peppers? Also, you are assuming that the team figured he could play OLB. He isn't a 3-4 lineman.

Shockey? Come on man...weak. Nobody had him pegged for a 1st overall.

Williams projected to a possible Guard...no way you take him first overall.


psst...Winslow was not available.

We all knew a change was coming to corner. We made that apparent when they asked us, "Who do you want?" We said from the jump we wanted a corner. I thought it might be D'angelo Hall but Dunta did better at his pro-day.

Peppers was versatile. A dominate force at DE, like he is now, or a pass rushing OLB like Julian Peterson.

Shockey was high on everybody's list. If you had to choose on who was the better player overall at the time, Shockey or Carr, who would you choose?

As far as Williams goes, Buffalo thought he could play some ball picking him #4 over-all.

I know Winslow wasn't available but you get my point.

Grid
03-02-2005, 11:43 PM
well id still say its unlikely we have more than 6-7 million to blow. Which may be enough to sign Plax but I dont know that its a very good idea. you cant go and pick up some huge contract every offseason. We are already close to the cap. I dont want to see us rebuilding in a few years.

Dionysus22
03-02-2005, 11:45 PM
My whole point about the BPA is that if you're gonna say BPA, at least say BPA at their position and the position we're needing.

Dionysus22
03-02-2005, 11:48 PM
well id still say its unlikely we have more than 6-7 million to blow. Which may be enough to sign Plax but I dont know that its a very good idea. you cant go and pick up some huge contract every offseason. We are already close to the cap. I dont want to see us rebuilding in a few years.

Good point, but's nice to dream isn't it?

Ibar_Harry
03-03-2005, 12:43 AM
What's funny about this whole discussion is that without the O-line I don't care how good the receivers are. The QB will never have time to throw to them. Improvement in the O-line is mandatory if this team is going to go anywhere. I will say it until I'm blue in the face this O-line is a disaster and I don't see why next year will be any different unless something changes. Either our players are the pits or the coaching is the pits or both. I know Vinny thinks things will be better next year, but I just don't see it. It would be a waster of money to get another top WR without the complimentary O-line to go with the receiver. So far we haven't made any kind of splash, so I don't think too much is on the horizon. If I'm wrong, so be it.

Ibar_Harry
03-03-2005, 01:02 AM
You have said we are okay and I'm saying we are not. I'm not critizing you and I'm not using your name in vain, I'm just saying there are different opinions out there about the status of the O-line and that's the truth. I happen to feel the number 1 need of this ball club is a far better O-line. I realize we might be looking to the draft, but most draftees would probably be a project. Particularly, if you take what Casserly and others are saying about this year's draft. They say the top picks are just not up to the excellence of previous years. What does that translate too? Does that mean the FA market might be at a premium this year? I will say this, they have indicated status quo and so far that has been the case........................

Ibar_Harry
03-03-2005, 01:18 AM
We might well do that Vinny. However, we have not made much of a move in that direction and we would probably say we have been 50-50 in judging talent on the O-line. Wand will probably be around for a while and might even become better than average. Looks like Brown won't be much based on some of the things you have said. Pitts has obviously done well. But I would agree with your assessment that most of our FA O-linemen haven't been what you and I would like to see. I think Wiegert has been by far and away the best and I think is one of the team leaders, but he has been injury prone. When he wants to play I think he has been the best of the litter. We will see what the next few days bring. Again quite taking things personally, I actually respect your opinions more than you think, but I still thinks it fair to disagree. In the end the proof is in the pudding as they say.

SESupergenius
03-03-2005, 01:24 AM
1st year was the Boselli bomb and we had to shuffle our line. 2nd year we added new faces to gel. 3rd year we implemented a new system and we add new faces. See a pattern here. This next year will probably the only consistant line we've had. I'm all for replacing Wand or Pitts, but lets at least give them another shot in this system and only a year together.

U4ikrob
03-03-2005, 01:31 AM
Plax would be a great addition paired up with AJ as one of the other posters mentioned - one of the tallest tandems in the league. I think we would have to shift to more 60/40 pass-run and that would help the line also as teams might be apt to blitz less often if they think were passing more. Esp if the offense and QB use more play-action, pump fakes, speed outs, quick slants and more veteran audibles and playcalling on the field.. This will help spread the field more and with 2 Tall receievers the outside fades, posts, slants, outs and flares all of a sudden look alot easier to manage when you have a pair of guys able to leap over most corners. Reminds me alot of the old Irvin/Harper combo in big D.

O-line - With only a few Quality O-line players left in FA right now the 2 big guns being signed early - its looking more and more like mgt are giving Seth the job to loose. I think they will draft an O-lineman but not in the first round for depth at Tackle and Center/Guard and to help push Seth. As ive said before most super-bowl and playoff teams O-lines dont have All-pro's at every spot - but a good group of team players who learn to work well together, are lucky enough to stay healthy for the season and get in a rhythm when they need to in helping each other out and picking up missed assignments.

Paragon Blue
03-03-2005, 02:22 AM
Burress and AJ :thud:

rittenhouserobz
03-03-2005, 07:55 AM
We would be exchanging Burress for Bradford. When you think of the cap hit, just subtract Bradford and that is really how much Burress cost the texans.

Moving on. I think Plaxico and AJ will open up the middle for Gaffney and Armstrong. I think people forgot to mention that the Texans would have an excellent 3WR and 4WR set. Imagine AJ, Plax, Armstrong and Joppru. I know it takes alot with Joppru, but if he is healthy, then I think most defenses would be challenged. As it was noted previously, I think teams would have to reconsider their blitzing if there are two deep threats and their CB's are small.

Lucky
03-03-2005, 10:19 AM
As it was noted previously, I think teams would have to reconsider their blitzing if there are two deep threats and their CB's are small.
I don't see teams blitzing the Texans as much as they did the 1st 2 seasons. It's the 4 man rush that's been getting to Carr & causing problems.

I'm a little baffled by the Texans pursuing Burress. Would he be an upgrade over Bradford? Of course, but so would Armstrong if given the ball. Burress has never come across as a team player, and he didn't leave Pittsburgh on the best of terms. Forking over to Burress whatever cap room the Texans have doesn't make a lot of sense. I'm thinking this rumor is as valid as the Ron Dayne stuff.

Gilly
03-03-2005, 10:34 AM
I found this link on the steelers message board. It has Plax talking to MINN.
could be interesting.

http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants/41707.htm

edo783
03-03-2005, 11:20 AM
Minn. makes a lot of sense for Plax. He could be the #1 on a throwing team. Here he would be the 1.5 on a running team. Love to have him, but I doubt he winds up here.

TheOgre
03-03-2005, 01:53 PM
One possible reason to bring him here (if true) would be to try to mold the perception that we are seriously considering a WR at the 13th pick. If teams see us talking to Burress they may think we take a WR if one slips to our slot. All this off-season WR talk could just be smoke for some trade down posturing.

That could be the case. Then again, management may not see the makings of a #2 WR on the current roster. I wouldn't be any more surprised at us taking a WR with the 13 pick than I would a CB.

titan hater
03-03-2005, 03:28 PM
Wand looked like he can play. I'm not too fond of one year and toss type management. Building an NFL team is more complex than building a madden team. Sometimes you have to wait a bit on your development.




Gents - it its all bout the o-line...dc has to stay off his butt...Vinny, i could not disagree more...Wand is as project. A project that will take at least 2 more years to reach your goal of a servicable OT. They need to trade down and draft the fsu OT. if we want to be in the playoffs you gotta protect DC!!!!

dalemurphy
03-03-2005, 03:34 PM
Gents - it its all bout the o-line...dc has to stay off his butt...Vinny, i could not disagree more...Wand is as project. A project that will take at least 2 more years to reach your goal of a servicable OT. They need to trade down and draft the fsu OT. if we want to be in the playoffs you gotta protect DC!!!!


Servicable? Wand was servicable last year. If the interior line could have held their ground more often, Carr would have been able to step up into a pocket instead of running backwards and into the outside rushers who were often sealed 10 yards deep in the backfield by Seth.

LikeABoss
03-03-2005, 03:40 PM
I would like to see the Texans front office pursue Travis Taylor. He's a UFA that should not demand too much money because he failed horribly every season in Baltimore by trying to be the #1 WR.

Dionysus22
03-03-2005, 06:11 PM
Ok, We have 9 WR's. Out of that 9, only 4 have had some actual playing time. Don't ya'll think we should give some of the other youngsters a shot in the rotation and not go after a receiver who had an above-average season like 2 years ago or a guy that's gonna cost us some serious dough? I think we'll be pleasantly surprised at the talent we already have and haven't exposed it yet.

WildBlackBear32
03-03-2005, 06:37 PM
Ok, We have 9 WR's. Out of that 9, only 4 have had some actual playing time. Don't ya'll think we should give some of the other youngsters a shot in the rotation and not go after a receiver who had an above-average season like 2 years ago or a guy that's gonna cost us some serious dough? I think we'll be pleasantly surprised at the talent we already have and haven't exposed it yet.

That guy who woulda cost us serious dough, would have been the ultimate compliment to the current offense. To have two, big, fast WRs who demand double coverage running down opposite ends of the sidelines is the best way for a offense to open up. Especially since we have a QB with one of the bigger arms in the league.

jagualex
03-03-2005, 07:10 PM
Plaxico is rumored to only be interested in a warm weathered place that has a good tight end and a good running back. San Diego is already in deep negotiations with him.

TEXANS84
03-03-2005, 07:28 PM
Plaxico is rumored to only be interested in a warm weathered place that has a good tight end and a good running back.
Houston is not in Wisconsin....

texanfan2002114
03-03-2005, 07:40 PM
Plaxico is rumored to only be interested in a warm weathered place that has a good tight end and a good running back. San Diego is already in deep negotiations with him.

NFL network just reported that Minn. is the front runner and is currently working out a deal.

jagualex
03-03-2005, 07:57 PM
Houston is not in Wisconsin....

Tight end and good running back.

Rosusu
03-04-2005, 01:27 PM
Did he actually come for a visit? Or is this rumor just a big rumor that we have been going nuts over? :hmmm:

TEXANS84
03-04-2005, 02:02 PM
Tight end and good running back.

150 yards on 30 carries ring a bell?

Texans1984
03-04-2005, 03:33 PM
he would complaiment aj very well plus help the texans a lot

shinerbock_girl
03-04-2005, 03:48 PM
unfounded rumor. To the best of my knowledge Burress never came to town.

Here is the latest from Insider today so it doesn't look likely for us:

Vikings Mar. 4 - The agent for Pittsburgh receiver Plaxico Burress has had preliminary talks with the Vikings about his client replacing Randy Moss. Michael Harrison told The Associated Press that Burress would not mind playing with quarterback Daunte Culpepper.
ESPN.com has confirmed that the contact with the Vikings was initiated by Harrison. "Plaxico's interested in being in Minnesota," Harrison said. "I think it is a good fit for both sides."

The Giants are also interested in Burress, but will likely take a wait-and-see approach until his market is set, The New York Daily News reports. "We're chatting," Harrison told the Daily News. "We're feeling each other out. We're talking numbers. I don't know if they're in our ballpark, but they're trying to put something together that would make a little sense for us."

http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/rumorcentral?sport=nfl

TEXANS84
03-04-2005, 04:26 PM
Thats the thing with Burress...I guarantee he's probably asking for a 25 million dollar contract with like a 10 million dollar signing bonus.
Way too steep in our book.

As much as I like him as a player, and not so much off the field, its in the Texans best interest to let this one fly.
Work on your recievers via the draft.

teamplaya
03-05-2005, 01:53 AM
if we can sign Plaxico then we can draft Alex Barron form Florida State which would a upgrade over Seth Wand and daft a wr,and a cb in the second and third round

hound
03-05-2005, 08:51 AM
if we can sign Plaxico then we can draft Alex Barron form Florida State which would a upgrade over Seth Wand and daft a wr,and a cb in the second and third round


In that case I hope we don't get Plaxico. Barron is okay but not the equal to some of the great LT's and he will still be a rookie LT. I don't think Carr could survive another rookie LT... in four years have three rookie LT's???

The Texans pocket was mostly destroyed up the middle. Give the Texans a new guard/center and give Seth Wand a second year. Also give us a healthy Joppru at TE.

Texans1984
03-05-2005, 11:42 AM
why arent the texans moveing to get buress he be a great number two reciver and help aj a lot

Wolf
03-05-2005, 11:48 AM
I am thinking he is going to cost too much.. Also I am thinking that the Texans either 1) want to see if our young guys are going to step up..or 2) draft one (not a 1st rounder) maybe 2nd or so.

well depending on the Sharper/foreman situation.. if we clear room there...who knows.

BuffSoldier
03-05-2005, 11:51 AM
I dont think that Burress would want to come into a situation where he couldnt compete for the #1 spot. If he wanted to be a #2 receiver he would have stayed in Pitt and competed for a SB. He must be in search of a new place where he can be the #1 go to target.

Fiddy
03-05-2005, 11:51 AM
Burress wants to be a number 1, not a number 2 and that is the major problem in trying to acquire him...

LikeABoss
03-05-2005, 12:02 PM
And the place most likely to give him that big contract and the #1 WR position is Minnesota, plus throwing in the oppourtunity to play with pro bowl Qb Daunte Culpepper is an added incentive to sweeten the deal.

IMO, if we want an experienced and speedy #2 WR that wouldn't demand too much money from the UFA free agent pool. Then my choices would be either Travis Taylor of the Baltimoore Ravens or Charles Lee of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

texanfan2002114
03-05-2005, 12:44 PM
Burress wants to go to a place that throws the ball. Pitt. is going to back to the days where the QB throws the ball 15-20 times a game and runs the ball 35-45 times a game. Thats why he is leaving Pitt.

Fiddy
03-05-2005, 12:45 PM
IMO, if we want an experienced and speedy #2 WR that wouldn't demand too much money from the UFA free agent pool. Then my choices would be either Travis Taylor of the Baltimoore Ravens or Charles Lee of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.Travis Taylor's career average's:
40.8 catches per season
551.6 yards per season
13.5 yards per catch
3 TDs per season
25.6 first downs per season

No Thanks

LikeABoss
03-05-2005, 02:40 PM
Travis Taylor's career average's:
40.8 catches per season
551.6 yards per season
13.5 yards per catch
3 TDs per season
25.6 first downs per season

No Thanks

Like I said before, this is only MY opinion :wacko:

rosse
03-08-2005, 03:44 AM
I pray that some in the Texans front will be reading our conversations! GO AND GET PLACXIO BURRESS!!! Then we could sign and trade bradford and sharper for a 1st round draft pick and possibly get DJ JOHNSON from our native LONGHORNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jacquescas
03-08-2005, 04:23 AM
Burress would be an amazing number 2 reciever, but chances are he will not admit the fact that he is better suited to that role. I doubt he comes here unless he gets really bad offers.

BGRICK
03-08-2005, 02:39 PM
no way we get plax to much money for us and wrong situation for him

Marcus
03-08-2005, 03:08 PM
This is a test question.

Why is it that Plaxico Burress is still unsigned by any of the 32 teams?

a) He wants too much money
b) He thinks the word 'team' has the letter 'I' in it.
c) He thinks he deserves to be the #1 receiver
d) All of the above

LikeABoss
03-08-2005, 03:40 PM
I'll choose A and C. It went unnoticed last season, but he did put the team first and started blocking more for the run game instead of throwing a temper tantrum about him not getting the ball enough. It's too bad it's not paying off for him though :(

ThaShark316
03-10-2005, 02:18 PM
Giants | Withdraw Offer from Burress - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:05:30 -0800

Michael Eisen, of Giants.com, reports the New York Giants have ended their pursuit of free agent WR Plaxico Burress (Steelers), who visited the team Wednesday, March 9. "The New York Giants are no longer interested in free agent wide receiver Plaxico Burress and have withdrawn their offer," general manager Ernie Accorsi said.


MAN WTF?!?!?!?!

The Vikings don't want him, the Giants don't want him....ya know what, someone call CC and tell him to go get Plax, he just wants to play football. :heh: :thumbup

TheOgre
03-10-2005, 03:00 PM
They should sign him.

Fiddy
03-10-2005, 03:25 PM
A Giants offense with Burress would of been good: Manning, Barber, Shockey and Burress.

There maybe something we dont know about.

edo783
03-10-2005, 03:53 PM
There maybe something we dont know about.

It certainly has that smell about it. Odd, very odd. Attitude issues?

TheOgre
03-10-2005, 04:06 PM
He has been known to have some attitude issues but he was a model citizen and improved his run blocking this year. Teams might think he is acting "nice" since it is a contract year. All I know is that Hines Ward will not be nearly as open without him.

Blake
03-10-2005, 04:36 PM
I think he is looking for that big pay day. Like more than Mason pay day.

Youngstown Colt
03-10-2005, 04:38 PM
He really didn't change much at all. He was still reluctant to practice for reasons such as "it's hot out there"

And when the steelers lost to the pats, he blamed the team for not having him be a big enough part of the offense. It's more of a fantasy than anything to think he has reformed and all, but he's still the same old selfish plaxico who is all about "me" instead of "we"

This is the guy who skipped a meeting witht he Giants because he had "the flu" (I used that excuse last week) Nothing about this guy says he is after anything other than money