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Texan_Bill
02-10-2010, 02:19 PM
I lost you at 19-10 :)

My arguments have nothing to do with being a Cowboy fan. Purely from watching all these games and having the same comments in one half or another...."why do they look flat in such a big game;" "what is the defense doing" and "the offense is out of sync."



As my old coach would say, "turnovers and sloppy play are from a lack of concentration." When you practice and prepare sloppy, you play sloppy. The Bills offense was putrid. Their point total wasn't high but they were moving it. The Texans were completely out of sync. I agree....yack :)..with JT that some wins are just going to be sloppy but they count. My standard is that you should have more that 2 games where the team shows up for one half.

Yep, the Bills were moving the ball.......... 204 net yards. Meanwhile our "out of sync" offense racked up 439 net yards.

While I agree with you that the Texans came out sluggish in the Bills game, let's not revise history to further our points.

HoustonFrog
02-10-2010, 02:25 PM
Yep, the Bills were moving the ball.......... 204 net yards. Meanwhile our "out of sync" offense racked up 439 net yards.

While I agree with you that the Texans came out sluggish in the Bills game, let's not revise history to further our points.

Honestly, no revision. I went off of pure memory of the first half only. Not the whole game. I said the first half they were out of sync...which they were with 3 turnovers and limited points. The second half is when they inserted Moats and the offense got it in gear....again, making my point.

Texan_Bill
02-10-2010, 02:32 PM
Honestly, no revision. I went off of pure memory of the first half only. Not the whole game. I said the first half they were out of sync...which they were with 3 turnovers and limited points. The second half is when they inserted Moats and the offense got it in gear....again, making my point.

For the record, I agreed with you about the sluggish first half.

Double Barrel
02-10-2010, 02:48 PM
:brickwall:

"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results."

~Benjamin Franklin

That's actually an Albert Einstein quote. :tiphat:

http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/einstein_tongue-widec.jpg

Texan_Bill
02-10-2010, 02:52 PM
That's actually an Albert Einstein quote. :tiphat:

http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/einstein_tongue-widec.jpg

You're right. I looked it up to get the wording right. Wrong site I guess.

Double Barrel
02-10-2010, 04:47 PM
You're right. I looked it up to get the wording right. Wrong site I guess.

no prob, man. Einstein is one of my favorite philosophers - dude has some great quotes - so just figured that you'd want to give him his due credit. :)

Two more of my favorite Einstein quotes:

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
~ Albert Einstein

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
~ Albert Einstein

Texan_Bill
02-10-2010, 04:56 PM
no prob, man. Einstein is one of my favorite philosophers - dude has some great quotes - so just figured that you'd want to give him his due credit. :)

Absolutely.


Two more of my favorite Einstein quotes:

"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
~ Albert Einstein

"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."
~ Albert Einstein

:thumbup Awesome!! Unfortunately I resemble those remarks.

Joe Texan
02-10-2010, 06:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

Texan_Bill
02-10-2010, 06:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

In what universe would I have ever imagined Joe rapping a modified version of "Pants on the Ground" while recording himself and putting on YouTube??

:spit:

Mailman
02-10-2010, 07:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

:shocked:shocked:shocked:shocked:shocked:shocked:

GP
02-10-2010, 07:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

Wow.

You need to trim your nose hairs.

You and Obama sure can read a teleprompter, too. Nicely done.

In all seriousness, though: You did a good job of posting something to YouTube. I chuckled.

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 07:34 PM
The big difference is, our division record consistently sucks (1-5, 2-4, 1-5).
Our out-of-division record is consistently good (7-3, 6-4, 8-2).

I personally don't believe our W-L record says as much as we want to believe it says about how good or bad our team is. If we watch with our eyes, we can see if our team is getting better or worse.

I knew our 2008 team was better than our 2007 team, even though we had the same 8-8 record, and a worse division record. I knew our 2009 team was better than our 2008 team, before we finished one game better for the season. I knew, because I watched them play.

I'm not trying to sweep anything under any rug the way you want everyone to believe the "sunshiners" are trying to do.

Our players made mistakes...... our coaches made mistakes.... our GM made mistakes..... Overall, I think our players are getting better, I think our coaches are getting better, & I think our GM is getting better.



If we're to believe the year-to-year "improvement," there would be a
reasonable progression against the teams and coaches we see the most.

Only if the teams we see the most are crap. I haven't done it myself, but I'm sure if you check the AFC South's record against the rest of the league, you'll see we (as a division) generally beat the rest of the league. We've been the worst team in the division for 8 years.

I'm sorry, we've been the worst team in this division for 7 years.

Such an improvement is NOT there, so it's the bone-of-contention the
"sunshiners" want to downplay, and the "soapers" focus on.


We've all acknowledged it. We all know, understand & believe it must get better.

You don't simply focus on it, you obsess over it.

DexmanC
02-10-2010, 07:48 PM
I personally don't believe our W-L record says as much as we want to believe it says about how good or bad our team is. If we watch with our eyes, we can see if our team is getting better or worse.


This "standard" simply isn't good enough. Every team in our division, it can
be argued, has gotten younger and better. In order for the Texans to take
the "next step," they must improve at a rate FASTER than their divisional
foes. Once can also argue two teams we face next season, Baltimore and
the Jets, have ALSO improved.

Our rate of improvement simply hasn't been enough. One more season, dude.
I agree with one of your earlier posts, when you stated this regime should
be gone if we don't win the division next season. If this regime isn't gonna
be GREAT, why the hell should we wait 5 years with it?

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 07:50 PM
Bacically I saw one game...one game...where the team looked prepared from start to finish..Cincy. Besides that the team either started quick and then got outplanned at half and the other team hung around and made it a game or they started slow and looked uninspired and unprepared and then would come out looking better in half 2. One game out of 16.

Do you think the Colts were unprepared for the Saints?

There are two teams out there every game. One team trying to stop the other from scoring points.

I don't care if it was the Texans' reputation that made the Rams play like it was their SuperBowl, or caused Miami to look past us in that first half.

But you don't lose games by 7 points or less, when you are unprepared.

infantrycak
02-10-2010, 07:53 PM
This "st Every team in our division, it can
be argued, has gotten younger and better.

No it can't. The Titans were 13-3 last year and 8-8 this year. By all means present the cogent argument that they got better. The Hags went to the playoffs 2 of 3 years and have now missed it 2 years. Again, argue they got better applying the same standard you apply to the Texans. They went 5-11 to 7-9 after having been 11-5 the prior season. That's better when discussing them. The Texans go 2-14 to 6-10 and it is meaningless to you.

Carr Bombed
02-10-2010, 07:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

That was disturbing.

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 08:08 PM
I did a quick look over at NFL.com, and very first Dallas game I clicked on had an interesting headline pop up...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009092800/2009/REG3/panthers@cowboys

Check out the box score of THIS (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010020700/2009/POST22/saints@colts) game.

It's just part of the game.

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 08:10 PM
The Jets were basically gift wrapped a playoff spot. It is more debateable that the Pats tried harder than the Colts or the Bengals did, but in the end all 3 teams in each scenario (Colts, Bengals, Pats) played like they did not give a hoot about the games.

I honestly think the Bengals were finally overwhelmed with drama.

there were a few more injuries that they just couldn't over-come.

DexmanC
02-10-2010, 08:13 PM
No it can't. The Titans were 13-3 last year and 8-8 this year. By all means present the cogent argument that they got better. The Hags went to the playoffs 2 of 3 years and have now missed it 2 years. Again, argue they got better applying the same standard you apply to the Texans. They went 5-11 to 7-9 after having been 11-5 the prior season. That's better when discussing them. The Texans go 2-14 to 6-10 and it is meaningless to you.

I'm applying the same cogent argument TK has (eyeball test) to explain
how improvement in relation to your opposition is on a sliding scale. The
NFL season doesn't happen in a vacuum. You must improve at a rate faster
than your opponents to be better than them. Hate on the Tacks all you want,
but when they changed QB's they went 8-2. By TK's standard, you can ARGUE
they got BETTER.

By MY standard, the Texans have remained STAGNANT for THREE SEASONS.
BY MY standard, this is FAILURE.

However, TK understands my standard and disagrees with it. By all means
Infantry, you're welcome to allow your emotions to ruin a perfectly civil
discussion between TK and myself.

Lucky
02-10-2010, 08:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go
Loved it. Rep.

Silver Oak
02-10-2010, 08:14 PM
Check out the box score of THIS (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2010020700/2009/POST22/saints@colts) game.

It's just part of the game.

Super Bowl champs only playing 1/2 of a game. Fire everyone?

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 08:23 PM
This "standard" simply isn't good enough.

It is what it is.

My point was you don't insert a team into the NFL & expect them to beat the Colts, or the Patriots on a regular basis....

8 years later.... sure, without question. But it's not like Kubiak was here for 8 years. 4 years, you'd expect something much better than 1-5. I hear what you are saying..

I personally believe, based on what I've seen, Kubiak would have done much better than 1-5, or 9-7 even, had he started from scratch..... but that didn't happen.

I personally think he would have done much, much better if he were able to get his own QB from day one, or if he got the DC he wanted from day 1, or the OC he wanted.

But none of that happened. You deal with it, you move forward.

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 08:35 PM
Hate on the Tacks all you want,
but when they changed QB's they went 8-2. By TK's standard, you can ARGUE
they got BETTER.


You don't think they got better?

Both sides of the ball was statistically better once they made the switch. You could see with your eyes they weren't the bumbl'n fumbl'n 0-6 Titans that started the season.

The Titans are without a doubt better than their 8-8 record. If that Coach wouldn't have had his head up his butt, & put Vince in the game 3 weeks earlier, they could have easily won at least 2 of those games.

thunderkyss
02-10-2010, 08:36 PM
Super Bowl champs only playing 1/2 of a game. Fire everyone?

Fire all dem summs uv bitses

:clap:

HoustonFrog
02-10-2010, 08:53 PM
Do you think the Colts were unprepared for the Saints?

There are two teams out there every game. One team trying to stop the other from scoring points.

I don't care if it was the Texans' reputation that made the Rams play like it was their SuperBowl, or caused Miami to look past us in that first half.

But you don't lose games by 7 points or less, when you are unprepared.

No, and if you read my explanation, which people tend to skip around here, you'd see that the Colts don't fall under the definition. They played well to start the game and were leading going into half. The second half wasn't great but they still competed, scored and were in the game. The point isn't to play a perfect game. It is to be prepared, compete and play a full game. This isn't a novel idea since many people here talked about it EVERY week after the games. It also doesn't mean scoring every opportunity, etc. By the way they also won 5 games by 7 points or less...it is just skipped in the conversations because it ruins the "what if" scenario that people trot out for 11 wins.

BTW, your last sentence make absolutely no sense. You can be unprepared, fall behind and make a run and lose by 7. That is just a random blanket statement.

Joe, I'm not even sure what to say about tha video...too much time.

I did a quick look over at NFL.com, and very first Dallas game I clicked on had an interesting headline pop up...

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009092800/2009/REG3/panthers@cowboys

Obsession was noted a long time ago. Plus I agree that the Cowboys come out unprepared alot. That or they couldn't finish games. It was their demise, despite winning records. I can admit this because I'm a realistic fan. What got them into the playoffs was a run of games where they did play complete games. No team plays 16 great games or complete games. I just happen to think batting better than 2 for 16 is in order.

I'll do like I did in another thread and back out now. Points made

Joe Texan
02-10-2010, 09:34 PM
I said it for you in the video

Put the pink soap down

DexmanC
02-10-2010, 09:44 PM
You don't think they got better?

Both sides of the ball was statistically better once they made the switch. You could see with your eyes they weren't the bumbl'n fumbl'n 0-6 Titans that started the season.

The Titans are without a doubt better than their 8-8 record. If that Coach wouldn't have had his head up his butt, & put Vince in the game 3 weeks earlier, they could have easily won at least 2 of those games.

My point, TK, is that it ultimately doesn't matter if the Texans have gotten
better, if the improvement is not at a rate HIGHER than that of the Colts, Titans,
Ravens, Jets, Jags, Broncos and Chargers. They don't have any NFC creampuffs to
pad the record with next year. We will truly see where this team is.

If they go 1-3 against the NFC East next year, they'll have to finish 8-4
in the AFC, JUST to make it to 9-7. Remember. The season doesn't happen
in a vacuum. The Texans have to be better than A LOT of teams to justify
this "five-year program" we have on our head coaching.

Craig.
02-10-2010, 09:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

http://jamie-online.com/random-jamz/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/facepalm.jpg

HoustonFrog
02-10-2010, 09:56 PM
I said it for you in the video

Put the pink soap down

Yeah. Mine will be up soon. Put the crack pipe down.

infantrycak
02-10-2010, 10:54 PM
However, TK understands my standard and disagrees with it. By all means
Infantry, you're welcome to allow your emotions to ruin a perfectly civil
discussion between TK and myself.

Emotion? LOL

You're the one arguing "every" team in our division got better when the Tacks went from 13-3 to 8-8. You're the one who early in the season was reserving SB tickets and is now acting like a jilted prom date because they didn't make the playoffs. And get a grip, conversations around here aren't private in case you haven't noticed.

DexmanC
02-10-2010, 11:40 PM
Emotion? LOL

You're the one arguing "every" team in our division got better when the Tacks went from 13-3 to 8-8. You're the one who early in the season was reserving SB tickets and is now acting like a jilted prom date because they didn't make the playoffs. And get a grip, conversations around here aren't private in case you haven't noticed.

What's your opinion on this discussion, Infantry? No opinion on the subject,
but a ton of venom against those who don't agree with your unstated position.

I get it.

Texecutioner
02-11-2010, 12:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSf8own4b9M


Here you go

I really wonder what random people on Youtube would say who came across this wondering what the hell you're talking about. :spit:

All arguments to the side though, that was hilarious Joe. :clap:

Rep to you for the chuckle it gave me.

silvrhand
02-11-2010, 12:53 AM
I said it for you in the video

Put the pink soap down

Nah I'll keep mine around until he can prove me wrong, which I hope he does but I don't think Kubiak will deliver.

Found another one of Joe's great videos..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDa5M8_vcSE&feature=related

thunderkyss
02-11-2010, 03:07 AM
My point, TK, is that it ultimately doesn't matter if the Texans have gotten
better, if the improvement is not at a rate HIGHER than that of the Colts, Titans,
Ravens, Jets, Jags, Broncos and Chargers. They don't have any NFC creampuffs to
pad the record with next year. We will truly see where this team is.

The Colts are arguably the best. They can't possibly be getting better at a faster rate than the Texans... unless the Texans aren't getting better at all. The law of diminishing returns.

My point is that you'll become a better boxer (with the right trainer) by boxing Mike Tyson twice a year every year. You'll be able to beat a better class boxer, as you get better, but Tyson will whip your ass for at least 8 years, before you are actually good enough to beat him.

I'm not saying Kubiak(the trainer) has had 8 years to whip Tyson. He's only had 4, and in those 4, he's had hurdles to overcome. Our boxer is getting better... no doubt about it. If Kubiak continues to do what he's been doing, I believe our boxer will whip Tyson's ass next year. McNair thinks so as well.

If they go 1-3 against the NFC East next year, they'll have to finish 8-4
in the AFC, JUST to make it to 9-7. Remember. The season doesn't happen
in a vacuum. The Texans have to be better than A LOT of teams to justify
this "five-year program" we have on our head coaching.

Or we could have gone to a 2 year/3 year program like the Lions, the Cardinals, the Saints(until recently), the Falcons, the Bucs, and every other team that spent decades trying to get to mediocre.

Again, if your division consist of Tyson, Frazier, & Ali...... throw goofy 4 year expectations out the window. Especially when the other team only had to worry about Forman once every 4 years.

OzzO
02-11-2010, 08:34 AM
Not to start another kubiak thread... but our coach feels we have "a long, long way to go" How's that stir your competitive spirit?

From the press conference officially noting Kubiak's extension HT.com - approx 24.11 into clip (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=3963&play_clip=y)

infantrycak
02-11-2010, 09:44 AM
What's your opinion on this discussion, Infantry? No opinion on the subject,
but a ton of venom against those who don't agree with your unstated position.

I get it.

My opinion? I leaned toward keeping Kubiak - I think the team has improved but he has made mistakes as well. I also think any number of things happen last season some in Kubiak's control and some not and the Texans make the playoffs and 95% of the anti-Kubiak posts are gone while the actual merits of what has been done don't change at all. I really don't care about the extension because McNair is the one who will have to take it in the wallet if it doesn't work out, not me. I think your making up arguments and repetitive arguments to prosecute your MB vendetta are a joke. There you go. Now it's plainly stated.

DexmanC
02-11-2010, 09:53 AM
I think your making up arguments and repetitive arguments to prosecute your MB vendetta are a joke. There you go. Now it's plainly stated.

People on ends of the argument have continually "restated their positions."
It's the very reason these threads won't "die." I'm just wondering why you
continually lambaste those participating on the discussion with an opposing
viewpoint from yours.

"Sunshiners" AND "Soapers" are essentially doing the same thing, but I don't
get your reasoning for attacking the "soapers" rather than their arguments.

If you're out of ideas, it's o.k. There are people who enjoy discussing this
subject, and it's why threads like these will continue to get larger.

DexmanC
02-11-2010, 10:03 AM
The Colts are arguably the best. They can't possibly be getting better at a faster rate than the Texans... unless the Texans aren't getting better at all. The law of diminishing returns.

They've replaced half their defense, a HOF wide receiver, and Anthony
Gonzales with rookies who have performed at pro bowl calibers. They've
gotten younger and arguably better over most of their team, and STILL
almost won the SuperBowl.


My point is that you'll become a better boxer (with the right trainer) by boxing Mike Tyson twice a year every year. You'll be able to beat a better class boxer, as you get better, but Tyson will whip your ass for at least 8 years, before you are actually good enough to beat him.

The Colts are Mike Tyson. I'll give you that. But who are the Jags
and Titans? They ALSO own our trainer's ass annually. Maybe Poindexter
doesn't have the stuff to be World Champion.


I'm not saying Kubiak(the trainer) has had 8 years to whip Tyson. He's only had 4, and in those 4, he's had hurdles to overcome. Our boxer is getting better... no doubt about it. If Kubiak continues to do what he's been doing, I believe our boxer will whip Tyson's ass next year. McNair thinks so as well.

Bob Mcnair is telling us that being better than Casserly/Capers is good
enough. Good luck signing our Probowlers with the bar set on our head
coach so low. You KNOW they're gonna ask the Texans to break the bank.

If it all works out, then no one will be happier than me.

HOU-TEX
02-11-2010, 10:12 AM
Not to start another kubiak thread... but our coach feels we have "a long, long way to go" How's that stir your competitive spirit?

From the press conference officially noting Kubiak's extension HT.com - approx 24.11 into clip (http://www.houstontexans.com/tv/index.asp?mm_file_id=3963&play_clip=y)

Well, it is just Febuary. The 010 Super Bowl is just a hair under a year away. I'd say that's "a long, long way to go".

I took his comment to mean there's a lot of work to be done between now and 010. Plus, he says that all the time.

HoustonFrog
02-11-2010, 10:26 AM
I think this thread has had some good talk both ways and a third cycle may not be needed. That or someone can start a new one one day that makes it feel like it is a fresh thread :). Close her down.

DexmanC
02-11-2010, 10:37 AM
A lil off-topic. Have any of you tried "Yerba Mate?" It's more popular in
Argentina than coffee is here, and a LOT cheaper. The stuff gives you the
kick of coffee, but without the jitters and energy crash. Twice the antioxidant
content of green tea.

Just wondering if you've tried it.

Joe Texan
02-11-2010, 10:44 AM
Kubiak is not flawless but he is the Best man for the Job cause he Has 4 years Building What we want. Not a team to win tomorrow but a team to win continously year after year. He came out and said that is what he is doing, Bob Backed him up so Put the pink soap down. Face the facts and realize that he will start this next season, He might not last the whole season but till he screws the pooch Support him. He is the coach of the Football Team we all want to win. He is the man in charge coming in to the Season we could Step into Dallas and stuff a sock into Cowboys mouth for ever. We are all Texan Fans So Lets support our team. If we tank the 1st 5 games next season I will admit I made a Mistake, I just do not see that happening after what we accomplished this season.

JB
02-11-2010, 10:49 AM
I think this thread has had some good talk both ways and a third cycle may not be needed. That or someone can start a new one one day that makes it feel like it is a fresh thread :). Close her down.

Motion seconded

Texan_Bill
02-11-2010, 11:19 AM
Motion seconded

Thirdeded, fourtheded and fiftheded

JB
02-11-2010, 11:21 AM
Thirdeded, fourtheded and fiftheded

:spit:

BIG TORO
02-11-2010, 11:39 AM
No this is entertaining!

DexmanC
02-11-2010, 01:14 PM
Motion seconded
Thirdeded, fourtheded and fiftheded

Will one of you congressmen click the "New Thread" button please?

:tiphat:
:sarcasm:(kinda sorta)

thunderkyss
02-11-2010, 02:18 PM
They've replaced half their defense, a HOF wide receiver, and Anthony
Gonzales with rookies who have performed at pro bowl calibers. They've
gotten younger and arguably better over most of their team, and STILL
almost won the SuperBowl.

At what point could you have said they are not arguably the best team in the NFL?

2009? 2008? 2007? 2006?

I understand they have added & removed players.... but it's an organizational thing. They have been arguably the best team in the NFL for at least a decade.

The only way they can get better, is if we can remove the word arguably from that discription.


The Colts are Mike Tyson. I'll give you that. But who are the Jags
and Titans? They ALSO own our trainer's ass annually. Maybe Poindexter
doesn't have the stuff to be World Champion.

They are also pretty damn good boxers. We've swept the Jags before, we've split with them before, we got swept..... doesn't really change the fact that we are getting better, LIke I said, check their records against the rest of the league, I'm sure you'll find they are up there as well.


Bob Mcnair is telling us that being better than Casserly/Capers is good
enough. Good luck signing our Probowlers with the bar set on our head
coach so low. You KNOW they're gonna ask the Texans to break the bank.

I wouldn't expect you to take less than what you felt you are worth. Why would we expect them to? Good thing we're going into an uncapped year..... break the bank.

If it all works out, then no one will be happier than me.

I'm still going to have fun rubbing it in your face.
:kingkong:

Brando
02-11-2010, 03:41 PM
I reckon the odds of y'all talkin any sense into SH are less than teaching a newborn trigonometry. :lol:

:heh:


Good for Kubes. He improved this franchise and better days are ahead. Anyone remember the days when we had a hard time scoring 17 points a game?

GuerillaBlack
02-11-2010, 03:58 PM
Well, it is just Febuary. The 010 Super Bowl is just a hair under a year away. I'd say that's "a long, long way to go".

I took his comment to mean there's a lot of work to be done between now and 010. Plus, he says that all the time.

010? I think it only works for single-digit years. ;)

HOU-TEX
02-11-2010, 03:58 PM
010? I think it only works for single-digit years. ;)

Mmkay, how about '10? :handshake:

GuerillaBlack
02-11-2010, 04:00 PM
Mmkay, how about '10? :handshake:

It's a start. :handshake:

Texecutioner
02-11-2010, 04:31 PM
:heh:


Good for Kubes. He improved this franchise and better days are ahead. Anyone remember the days when we had a hard time scoring 17 points a game?

I really don't care about those old days. I won't sit here and compare Kubes or any other coach to what Capers and Casserly did here or what's going on with an awful team like the Raiders. It sounds like you're happy that we're just not a bottom feeder from this post. Of course he was going to improve the franchise from where it was. It was a bottom feeder. There was no way to go BUT UP and we've done that very slowly compared to other teams who have been in similar circumstances. Capers and Casserly has made a lot of fans contentment very small and the fact that Bud Adams took his team away from Houston seems to have a lot of fans afraid of losing their team like Bob might run off and take his toys with him. It's time to demand success from this organization and instead of "thinking" it's going to happen and saying "wait until next year."

Brando
02-11-2010, 04:33 PM
I really don't care about those old days. I won't sit here and compare Kubes or any other coach to what Capers and Casserly did here or what's going on with an awful team like the Raiders. It sounds like you're happy that we're just not a bottom feeder from this post. Of course he was going to improve the franchise from where it was. It was a bottom feeder. There was no way to go BUT UP and we've done that very slowly compared to other teams who have been in similar circumstances. Capers and Casserly has made a lot of fans contentment very small and the fact that Bud Adams took his team away from Houston seems to have a lot of fans afraid of losing their team like Bob might run off and take his toys with him. It's time to demand success from this organization and instead of "thinking" it's going to happen and saying "wait until next year."

Nope I demand the playoffs in 2010!

BIG TORO
02-11-2010, 04:34 PM
So does BOB!

GuerillaBlack
02-11-2010, 04:35 PM
I demand the Super Bowl.

Double Barrel
02-11-2010, 04:39 PM
I demand back-to-back Super Bowls!

Brando
02-11-2010, 04:40 PM
I demand a dynasty!:ant:

BIG TORO
02-11-2010, 04:45 PM
I demand a Dynasty and a strip club inside of Reliant!

Texecutioner
02-11-2010, 04:46 PM
I demand a 5 SB dynasty in this decade!!! :marionaner:

DexmanC
02-11-2010, 05:24 PM
I demand a dynasty!:ant:

http://i47.tinypic.com/348j1pv.jpg
Aww, shucks!! We'll darn well work on gettin' her done!
The Houston Texans are a freakin' WINNER!
My kids will be battlin' every Sunday!


Good 'ol Kubes.

thunderkyss
02-11-2010, 06:11 PM
There was no way to go BUT UP and we've done that very slowly compared to other teams who have been in similar circumstances.

What is, "is"

I'll agree that our offense is just as potent as New Orleans. I'll also agree that our defense is just as good as the Saints.

I'll agree that Kubiak is a huge reason we haven't had the same success that Sean Payton has.

but I'm not going to agree that Kubiak has not had any success here in Houston.

It would have been nice, if we could have gone 10-6, 7-9, 8-8, 13-3... I would have loved it.

Truthfully, we should have been 9-7 last year, & we should have been 11-5 this year.

But how is under achieving the last two years (if we can agree that we've underachieved the last two years) different than Sean Payton underachieving the two years before his Super Bowl run?

And if we are off by one year... from the success of the Saints... is that really that bad?

We all agree, that Kubiak has to show up big in 2010... I doubt McNair is too far from that. If he's going to give David Carr $9 million then kick his ass to the Curb, why is it so hard to believe he wouldn't do the same for Kubiak?

Don't think of that contract extension as anything other than a one way ticket, for one more year. If it were the "reward" you think it is, the talk would be about the size of the contract, and not the length. Pretty Soon, you'll see that Payton will get a new contract, & they won't be talking about how long it is.

It's time to demand success from this organization and instead of "thinking" it's going to happen and saying "wait until next year."

& how do you want us to "demand" success? By pissing & moaning all over a message board? How's that working out for you?

Are you waiting for a bunch of us to get together and agree to not buy our season tickets?

That ain't going to happen. But you go right on ahead, and demand success, and let some other lucky fan have your tickets.

I remember this time last year, we were griping & moaning, "It's not that we lost, it's the way we lost... If we were just competitive, I wouldn't be so mad... "

Well here we are, and that's not good enough. We want to cry about coming out flat, and unprepared, and playing only half a game...

We've got the #4 offense in the league, & the 13 ranked total Defense. Imagine if we'd have come prepared to play.

Texan_Bill
02-11-2010, 06:33 PM
I demand a Dynasty and a strip club inside of Reliant!

You know where I stand on this ^^^^ ;)

Joe Texan
02-11-2010, 06:48 PM
I demand we get a football team in Houston

Double Barrel
02-11-2010, 06:57 PM
You know where I stand on this ^^^^ ;)

I'm against it. How would we ever get around to watching the game?! :shades:

GP
02-11-2010, 07:02 PM
So there I was, staring right into the face of this really angry little old lady.

"You got a problem?" I asked her.

She replies, "You're the one who has the problem, pal."

And she hits me with her cane, but it's not a weak, little old lady type of swing. No, this lady jumps into the air like Bruce Lee and swings her cane like a bo staff being swung by a Power Ranger.

WHACK!

Can you believe that?

trying to divert this thread, so someone please reply so that we form a rabbit trail here...

steelbtexan
02-11-2010, 07:14 PM
I'm against it. How would we ever get around to watching the game?! :shades:

It would be more fun than watching the Texans not showing up against the Jets, K.Brown missing the FG in the Tacks game (The one that made me a soaper) or blowing leads against the Colts.

If McNair is going to have an organization that's all about fluff and PR, he should be the ultimate carnival barker and give the fans a strip club complete with pole and sinking stage and gold club members area.

This will keep the stadium full and happy. Regardless of the crappy aw shucks the kids did their best, its on me crap that's currently being sold as an NFL product.

Strip club=marketing genius.

Sign me up

JB
02-11-2010, 07:57 PM
So there I was, staring right into the face of this really angry little old lady.

"You got a problem?" I asked her.

She replies, "You're the one who has the problem, pal."

And she hits me with her cane, but it's not a weak, little old lady type of swing. No, this lady jumps into the air like Bruce Lee and swings her cane like a bo staff being swung by a Power Ranger.

WHACK!

Can you believe that?

trying to divert this thread, so someone please reply so that we form a rabbit trail here...

Really? You must have looked awfully mean there in your shades and floppy hat!:smiliedance:

b0ng
02-11-2010, 09:11 PM
You know where I stand on this ^^^^ ;)

Next to the pole?

Joe Texan
02-11-2010, 09:45 PM
Next to the pole?


:worthless:


And Bong

:lol:

CloakNNNdagger
02-11-2010, 10:11 PM
:worthless:


And Bong



:lol:

You want pics????...........You got pics!

During Happy Hour, all drinks AND entertainment are "discount."


http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/8/15/633543985565169861-poledancingyouredoingitwrongdemotivator.jpg



And for you women out there, we have.................


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/Riets/image001-49.gif

JB
02-12-2010, 08:27 AM
You want pics????...........You got pics!

During Happy Hour, all drinks AND entertainment are "discount."


http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/8/15/633543985565169861-poledancingyouredoingitwrongdemotivator.jpg



And for you women out there, we have.................


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/Riets/image001-49.gif

My Eyes...My Eyes!!!

Grams
02-12-2010, 09:34 AM
You want pics????...........You got pics!

During Happy Hour, all drinks AND entertainment are "discount."


http://pix.motivatedphotos.com/2008/8/15/633543985565169861-poledancingyouredoingitwrongdemotivator.jpg



And for you women out there, we have.................


http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh61/Riets/image001-49.gif

That is just painful. Funny, but painful.

Brando
02-12-2010, 10:22 AM
Good 'ol Kubes.


Good Ole Dexman. :strangle:

HoustonFrog
02-12-2010, 10:33 AM
Tommy: Richard, do I have a mark on my face? It really hurts.
Richard Hayden: Nope, nothing. I thought I hit you on the shoulder.
Tommy: My shoulder doesn't hurt very much, but my face does.
[points to huge bruised area on his face]
Tommy: Right here. Not here or here so much. Right here.

Runner
02-12-2010, 11:15 AM
Consider this post the quietus for this thread.