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rmartin65
01-30-2010, 12:09 PM
In talking with badboy and beerlover, I have finally understood the need for a fast, agile, quick guy on offense and special teams. Someone who makes the D tremble in fear of the speed. A Reggie Bush type player if you will. I believe that LSU's Trindon Holliday is that guy.

At 5'5" 161 lbs (per the LSU website) he is too small to be an every down player like Chris Johnson or CJ Spiller. However, the Texans would not need him to be. If the Texans do like I think/hope they do, they will not have need to draft a back with speed galore to be a primary guy. I believe the Texans will draft/sign a power back, and have Slaton go back to his previous weight and speed. Then we have a true 1-2 combo, Thunder and Lightening style. Also, beerlover brought to my attention our problem at receiver. We lack a true number 2 if Walter cannot revert back to form. JJ is still a project. By having Holliday take return duties, JJ can focus on becoming an all around receiver.

Why Holliday? Because the kid can play, I dont care about his size. Watch the highlight vids at the bottom of the post, this is not a track guy playing football. He is tougher than one would expect, and his lateral agility is stunning for a sprinter.

Stats

2006
Rushing- 14 carries for 172 yards (12.3) and a TD
Receiving- N/A
Punt Return- 1 for 6 yards
Kick Return- 5 for 162 (32.4) and a TD

2007
Rushing- 53 carries for 364 yards (6.9) and 2 TD
Receiving- 2 for 3 yards
Punt Return- N/A
Kick return- 19 for 498 (26.2) and a TD

2008
Rushing- 21 for 114 (5.4)
Receiving- 2 for 33 yards
Punt Return- 21 for 279 (13.3) and a TD
Kick Return- 27 for 609 (22.6)

2009
Rushing- 27 for 126 (4.7) and a TD
Receiving- 3 for 36
Punt Return- 20 for 362 (18.1) and a TD
Kick Return- 22 for 537 (24.4)

The Texans would use him in much the same way LSU did. One or two rushes a game, a catch here and there, and as the primary return man.

Highlights
Caution, some of these have music that should not be heard at work, or children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Q0vlN6Pe8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlX7F7EaXp4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYdHoE_0kk&feature=related

Honoring Earl 34
01-30-2010, 12:36 PM
In talking with badboy and beerlover, I have finally understood the need for a fast, agile, quick guy on offense and special teams. Someone who makes the D tremble in fear of the speed. A Reggie Bush type player if you will. I believe that LSU's Trindon Holliday is that guy.

At 5'5" 161 lbs (per the LSU website) he is too small to be an every down player like Chris Johnson or CJ Spiller. However, the Texans would not need him to be. If the Texans do like I think/hope they do, they will not have need to draft a back with speed galore to be a primary guy. I believe the Texans will draft/sign a power back, and have Slaton go back to his previous weight and speed. Then we have a true 1-2 combo, Thunder and Lightening style. Also, beerlover brought to my attention our problem at receiver. We lack a true number 2 if Walter cannot revert back to form. JJ is still a project. By having Holliday take return duties, JJ can focus on becoming an all around receiver.

Why Holliday? Because the kid can play, I dont care about his size. Watch the highlight vids at the bottom of the post, this is not a track guy playing football. He is tougher than one would expect, and his lateral agility is stunning for a sprinter.

Stats

2006
Rushing- 14 carries for 172 yards (12.3) and a TD
Receiving- N/A
Punt Return- 1 for 6 yards
Kick Return- 5 for 162 (32.4) and a TD

2007
Rushing- 53 carries for 364 yards (6.9) and 2 TD
Receiving- 2 for 3 yards
Punt Return- N/A
Kick return- 19 for 498 (26.2) and a TD

2008
Rushing- 21 for 114 (5.4)
Receiving- 2 for 33 yards
Punt Return- 21 for 279 (13.3) and a TD
Kick Return- 27 for 609 (22.6)

2009
Rushing- 27 for 126 (4.7) and a TD
Receiving- 3 for 36
Punt Return- 20 for 362 (18.1) and a TD
Kick Return- 22 for 537 (24.4)

The Texans would use him in much the same way LSU did. One or two rushes a game, a catch here and there, and as the primary return man.

Highlights
Caution, some of these have music that should not be heard at work, or children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Q0vlN6Pe8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlX7F7EaXp4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fYdHoE_0kk&feature=related

Man ... I was bringing this guy up a month ago . :ant:

rmartin65
01-30-2010, 12:41 PM
Man ... I was bringing this guy up a month ago . :ant:

Yep, and I am now getting on the bandwagon. I think a player like him could benefit the team immensely, for very low cost.

Ole Miss Texan
01-30-2010, 12:52 PM
I've been a huge fan of bringing in a type of player, a true playmaker like you're talking about. A Percy Harvin/Reggie Bush type of guy that gets a few touches per game. Couple rushes, some receptions out of the backfield or slot and has the ability to be a punt and/or kick returner. I really do think it would do a lot for our offense.

steelbtexan
01-30-2010, 01:01 PM
I've been a huge fan of bringing in a type of player, a true playmaker like you're talking about. A Percy Harvin/Reggie Bush type of guy that gets a few touches per game. Couple rushes, some receptions out of the backfield or slot and has the ability to be a punt and/or kick returner. I really do think it would do a lot for our offense.

Agreed

Holliday would be a good 5th or 6th rd pick.

Check out Sanders from SMU. He woud be a great slot WR. He is also a very good return guy.

Sanders is more versatile than Holliday.

A 3 WR set with AJ JJ and Sanders with Slaton in the backfield would be very dangerous.

Honoring Earl 34
01-30-2010, 02:09 PM
Yep, and I am now getting on the bandwagon. I think a player like him could benefit the team immensely, for very low cost.

I was playing over the Iupati thing .

rmartin65
01-30-2010, 02:50 PM
I was playing over the Iupati thing .

Ah, haha, I was mistaken there. And it does turn out that you mentioned Holliday 2 weeks ago, I was going to give you credit for that one.

Smokedawg
02-01-2010, 12:24 PM
Im anxious to see his 40 time, im thinkin between 4.15 - 4.28

rmartin65
02-01-2010, 06:29 PM
Im anxious to see his 40 time, im thinkin between 4.15 - 4.28

He is being talked about as the fastest player at the college level- EVER. I am not sure I buy into that, but the dude is freaking fast. He could easily hit a 4.28, I think he goes about the speed of CJ, 4.24.

WolverineFan
02-01-2010, 07:55 PM
Dexter McCluster is that guy, not Trindon Holliday.

rmartin65
02-01-2010, 08:13 PM
Dexter McCluster is that guy, not Trindon Holliday.

McCluster is a second/3rd round pick. The Texans cannot afford to spend a pick on a player like this that early.

Do you think McCluster is faster? Want to place an avatar bet on it, Combine 40 yard dash time?

WolverineFan
02-01-2010, 08:19 PM
McCluster is a second/3rd round pick. The Texans cannot afford to spend a pick on a player like this that early.

Do you think McCluster is faster? Want to place an avatar bet on it, Combine 40 yard dash time?

I doubt McCluster is faster, but that doesn't matter. He's a football player. Holliday is a track star. McCluster uses his speed in the open field and makes plays. Holliday only makes plays when there is wide open space in front of him.

McCluster will be the better NFL player by far. Guaranteed.

Ole Miss Texan
02-01-2010, 11:32 PM
I second WolverineFan's thoughts. Holliday is faster but McCluster is a better football player. It doesn't really matter though, McCluster will be one of the fastest guys on the field anyways.

Big Poundcake
02-13-2010, 10:49 PM
5th round sounds good.

Give this kid around 5-7 touches per game. He is ELECTRIC with the ball in his hands.