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mussop
01-25-2010, 04:44 PM
Senior bowl notes

Mayocks top 5 Safeties.

Eric Berry
Taylor Mays 63 231
Earl Thomas
Larry Asante
Chad Jones 63 220

CBs

Haden
Kyle Wilson
Parrish Cox (questionable ball skills)
Patrick Robinson
Devin McCourtny (could move up to first round) Good special teams player 3 blocked kicks

OL drafted in First round last year

Jason Smith 2nd
Andre Smith 6th
Eugene Monroe 8th
Alex Mack 21st
Micheal Oher 23rd
Eric Wood 28th

Thats 2 centers that were drafted in the first round last year for the people that think interior linemen dont get drafted in the first round.

Top 5 OTs

Russell Okung
Bryan Bulaga
Anthony Davis
Trent Williams
Vladimir Ducasse reminds mayock of Otah 65 326 could work his way into first round

Guards
Mike Iupati 35 inch arms 326 with the feet to play LT could break into top 20 picks
M Pouncey
Jon Asamoah 31 inch arms (thats bad) 64 Think he could playCenter
Roger Saffold T that will move inside
Zane Beadles T that will move inside or play RT 326 nasty, finishes tackles downfield, 32 arms

Washington LB TCU could be a first round pick. Second round grade right now. Weighed in at 226 projects as a 4/3 will.

MORE TO COME!!!

mussop
01-25-2010, 06:14 PM
Kyle Wilson makes great break on the ball, Looked really good in drills. Mayock= Wilson had most outstanding practice of the day. Quick feet broke on the football well.

SydQuan Thompson Questionable long speed, Maybe the best hitting CB Mayock has ever seen. Most aggressive corner in this years draft.

WR Taylor Price makes a great catch in one on one drills. Really good hands, cathing everything thrown his way.

Gilyard physically reminds of Deshaun Jackson. Dropped several balls in first practice.


Trench One on one drills

Odrick vs. Iupati

Odrick gets off the ball really fast and does a nice rip move to get advantage.
Iupati does better the second go round

Ducasse vs. Schofield

Schofield blows by Ducasse on the outside
Ducasse burries Schofield on same move

Wang vs. Graham
Gram blows by Wang

Asamoah vs. Odrick
Odrick bull rushes and Asumoah does good job holding his ground but looses balance at the end.
Odrick bull rushes again this time Asamoah does good job maintaining block.

Terrence Cody weighed in at 370

Blount Weighed in at 246 used in second half of games to wear defenses down, has underrated long speed.

Joique Bell 222 looks slower than I expected.


Overall didnt show much but is to be expected since its the first practice and players still in shorts, shoulder pads and helments.

was385
01-25-2010, 07:49 PM
This has nothing to do with us, but apparently Tim Tebow is not doing so well at the Senior Bowl practice. Consider me not surprised.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/35066342/ns/sports-player_news/

bah007
01-25-2010, 07:54 PM
I'm a big fan of Syd'Quan Thompson. If Kyle Wilson keeps it up I will be forced to change my thoughts on him.

As far as Tebow goes: I am willing to give him more than one practice before I solidify this prediction, but I really don't see him working out as a QB. His mechanics are the worst I have ever seen from a guy his age.

beerlover
01-25-2010, 09:03 PM
Iupati seemed constricted in box, standing too upright, needs more knee bend, spread feet out to balance & anchor his massive frame, seems to get by on strength alone, would like to see how he looks on edge with more space to get low, down & dirty.

m5kwatts
01-25-2010, 09:08 PM
I really appreciate the updates! I'm stuck in Austin mon-thurs and have Time Warner which = no NFL network.

nero THE zero
01-26-2010, 09:31 AM
LZ was raving about Kyle Wilson this morning on the radio. He's mentioning him as a possibility at #19/20 now.

Jackie Chiles
01-26-2010, 02:19 PM
LZ was raving about Kyle Wilson this morning on the radio. He's mentioning him as a possibility at #19/20 now.

If he keeps playing like he did day 1 that could be a definite possibility. There are always a couple of players that come into the Senior Bowl and blow everyone away. Maybe Wilson is this years Rodgers-Cromartie.

beerlover
01-26-2010, 02:29 PM
this is really a steller draft with all the underclassman, it's going to be need over BPA to fit any CB in the 1st after Haden. However I have upgraded him on my own board to a solid 2nd with potential to be taken early 2nd, which means Texans would reach a little @ #20 better to trade down late 1st/early 2nd to select him or roll the dice & hope he's there mid-2nd round which would be great value.

PS If the Texans did take him #20 it would mean they where unable to come to terms with Dunta on a contract extension.

HOU-TEX
01-26-2010, 02:41 PM
Tough break! You got to feel for the guy. I hope he's able to rehab and get a shot.

Wisconsin DE O'Brien Schofield tore his left ACL on the first day of Senior Bowl practices Monday.

The Defensive MVP of last week's East-West Shrine Game, Schofield ranked second in the nation in tackles for loss and second in the Big Ten in sacks as a fifth-year senior. He was a probable second- to third-round pick before the injury, but now may fall out of the draft altogether. Some team is still likely to sign and stash Schofield on I.R. for 2010 because of his upside.

http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL&line=166963

Jackie Chiles
01-26-2010, 03:04 PM
this is really a steller draft with all the underclassman, it's going to be need over BPA to fit any CB in the 1st after Haden. However I have upgraded him on my own board to a solid 2nd with potential to be taken early 2nd, which means Texans would reach a little @ #20 better to trade down late 1st/early 2nd to select him or roll the dice & hope he's there mid-2nd round which would be great value.

PS If the Texans did take him #20 it would mean they where unable to come to terms with Dunta on a contract extension.

I don't really agree with your reasoning. Maybe if the draft was today he would be a reach (in our opinions) at 20 but if he performs exceptionally at the Senior Bowl and Combine he could be BPA at 20. Not saying its going to happen or is likely but its a possibility. As well as this none of us know exactly where GMs actually have him rated. Mayock already had him listed as his 2nd CB coming in so who knows. Rodgers-Cromartie came into the Senior Bowl as a 2nd-3rd rounder and by the time the draft rolled around he was pretty much a steal at 16 or wherever the Cardinals got him.

bah007
01-26-2010, 03:19 PM
Tough break! You got to feel for the guy. I hope he's able to rehab and get a shot.



http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL&line=166963

I think Schofield will be a steal late in the draft or as a UDFA as a 34 rush LB.

Hagar
01-26-2010, 07:46 PM
According to Draft Countdown, the Texans were spotted talking to the following players (http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Observations/Monday.php):

Dan Williams: DT ~ Tennessee (http://seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=122):drool:
Brandon Lang: DE ~ Troy (http://seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=93)
Harry Coleman: DB ~ LSU (http://seniorbowl.com/playerinfo.asp?ID=80)

Can you guess which player I like?

rmartin65
01-26-2010, 08:02 PM
Williams is the only player on that list I am interested in.

Wolf
01-26-2010, 08:05 PM
DD Tuesday Afternoon: South Practice:

The fans were out in full force to cheer on their local heroes, and it made for a great atmosphere in the stadium.
Offense:

West Virginia quarterback #16 Jarrett Brown has the livest arm in town, throwing a crisp spiral. If he can improve his accuracy, he has potential.

Ole Miss running back #22 Dexter McCluster continued to impress; his sharp route running, explosion, and acceleration all adds up to a game-breaking threat.

Southern California running back #13 Stefon Johnson was polished as a receiver, making sharp cuts. When running the ball, his vision, cut-back ability, and power are all excellent.

Auburn running back #44 Ben Tate is a tough runner but has the speed to turn the corner.

Kentucky fullback #32 John Conner was a new addition to the roster, and introduced himself to the South linebackers with violent blocking.

North Carolina wide receiver #7 Andre Roberts has reliable hands; Roberts has not dropped a ball all week, and has potential as a slot receiver.

Alabama tight end #84 Colin Peek had several nice catches on seam routes. Peek is also an effective blocker and looking like a complete tight end.

West Virginia offensive tackle #69 Selvish Capers was powerful in run blocking but raw in pass protection. Capers has much to learn but also the tools to improve.

LSU offensive tackle #70 Ciron Black had a better day today than yesterday, and was able to protect the passer. Black still was a step slow at times.
Defense:

Georgia defensive tackle #56 Geno Atkins flashed; good hand-play splitting the double team and dominated rushing the passer.

Tennessee defensive tackle #55 Dan Williams played with a high motor and a low center of gravity. He is a solid run stuffer but doesn't offer much rush.

Texas defensive tackle #33 Lamarr Houston was active in run defense, pursuing down the line and getting off blocks with ease. The 4-3 system the coaches run at the game fits his style.

Auburn defensive end #52 Antonio Coleman was chippy and aggressive. Coleman can get overwhelmed at point of attack but showed up big-time in pass rush situations.

Texas linebacker #38 Roddrick Muckelroy has quick feet and can cover backs and ends with ease: possible nickel backer.

Kentucky cornerback #32 Trevard Lindley was athletic and showed he can run. Lindley needs to add weight to his frame without losing speed to become a complete prospect.

South Florida cornerback #5 Nate Allen was aggressive jamming the receivers and looks natural in man coverage.

Florida State safety #4 Myron Rolle looked free of rust from his year away from the game. Rolle can change directions with ease and deliver big hits.
Specials:

East Carolina punter Matt Dodge had several booming attempts, with hang time in the 4.5 to 5 second range. However he also had his share of shanks and wasn't consistant.
***

Youngstown State wide reciever Donald Jones is reportedly being added to the game for Wednesday practice sessions.
***

Florida quarterback Tim Tebow reportedly is battling a severe fever and strep throat while in Mobile.

Related link: Tebow was reportedly hospitalized Monday evening.
***

DD Tuesday Morning: North Practice:

Sun was shining, and favorable weather continued for this morning's practice at Ladd-Peebles Stadium.

San Jose State defensive end #94 Justin Cole replaced injured Wisconsin defensive end O'Brien Schofield on the roster. Cole spent more time working with the linebackers then with the ends.
Offense:

Central Washington quarterback #13 Dan Lefevour threw a catchable ball and was the most effective of the North signal callers.

Wayne State running back #25 Joique Bell hit the hole with authority and had several long gains. Bell is raising his profile.

Oregon running back #9 Legarrette Blount ran tough and often delivered the blow to the defenders.

Virginia running back #31 Rashawn Jackson was active in blitz pickup and ready to hit.

Ohio wide receiver #23 Taylor Price shows great football speed and can provide legit deep threat.

Clemson wide receiver #8 Jacoby Ford had an excellent diving catch and was a popular target. Ford and Cincinnati wide receiver #1 Marty Gilyard worked at punt returner.

Wisconsin tight end #89 Garrett Graham and Oregon tight end #83 Ed Dickson were reliable targets with good hands and yard after catch ability. Dickson is a natural end, but at 234, Graham might be an h-back type unless he gains weight.

Idaho guard #77 Mike Iupati dominated opposing pass rushers and had at least 2 pancake blocks. Showed rare foot speed and can recover if off balance.

Arizona State guard #67 Shawn Lauvao displayed top technique: good hands, feet and base. Less than ideal size but a player.

Boston College center #65 Matt Tennant was a brawler inside, with good pop. Tennant did not give up much to the defenders.
Defense:

Arkansas State defensive end #96 Alex Carrington impressed in the Pit, with bull and swim moves. Carrington has a rare size speed combo and teams have noticed.

Michigan defensive end #55 Brandon Graham put on a clinic; makes rushing the passer look easy.

Murray State defensive end #97 Austen Lane showed a quick first step and was often able to penetrate upfield.

Cal defensive end #44 Tyson Alualu was smart, saavy and had a high motor. Like Graham, he can also make plays despite less than ideal height.

Penn State defensive tackle #91 Jared Odrick had an up-and-down session. Odrick can blow up the play one down, and be on the ground the next.

Washington linebacker #9 Donald Butler was aggressive and quick; He penetrated on running downs and covered well on backs and tight ends. TCU linebacker #41 Daryl Washington was also sticky in coverage.

Due to inconsistant quarterback play, it was difficult to scout the wide receivers and defensive backs. Still, Rutgers cornerback #21 Devin McCourty and Boise State #1 Kyle Wilson got in and out of breaks well. McCourty had a nice deflection in drills.
***

Day 2 North Practice Report from Matt McGuire at Walterfootball.com.
***

Idaho guard Mike Iupati impresses scouts at Senior Bowl practice.
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Murray State defensive end Austen Lane made a Senior Bowl diary entry.
***

TCU linebacker Daryl Washington was impressive in North practice



http://www.draftdaddy.com/blog/nfldraft.htm

mussop
01-27-2010, 09:01 AM
Risers day 1
Geno Atkins/DT/Georgia: Atkins disappointed scouts with his play in 2009 but elevated his game on the first day of Senior Bowl practice. Atkins was explosive and unstoppable for most of the afternoon session. He was constantly getting penetration behind the line of scrimmage and regularly beating bigger, stronger opponents.

Perrish Cox/CB/Oklahoma State: Many NFL scouts rate Cox as the top senior cornerback, and he showed why today. Cox shut down just about every receiver he faced and displayed top ball skills. His fundamentals were solid as was his athleticism.

Terrell Skinner/S/Maryland: The former Terp cornerback showed off his coverage skills Monday, culminating with an interception of quarterback Tony Pike. Already possessing very good size, he was physical throughout practice and has many believing he could eventually start at the next level.
Michael Hoomanawanui/TE/Illinois: Hoomanawanui overwhelmed the linebackers and safeties that attempted to cover him all day. He caught the ball very well and did a better-than-expected job at blocking. Hoomanawanui is trying to reverse what was a poor senior season at Illinois and is off to a good start.

LaGarrette Blount/RB/Oregon: Blount was a late addition to the Senior Bowl, and he displayed the skills which made him such a highly rated running back coming into the season. He ran tough between the tackles and showed a burst, which many did not know he possessed.

Mitch Petrus/G/Arkansas: Petrus, a former fullback at Arkansas, has improved his play the past three seasons and looked terrific in his first Senior Bowl practice. He moves well on his feet and does a terrific job blocking in motion. Petrus surprised scouts with his power. He not only handled opponents at the point of attack, but drove larger defensive linemen off the ball throughout the afternoon.

Mike Johnson/G/Alabama: Johnson was an imposing-looking figure Monday morning, measuring 6-feet, 5-inches and 306 pounds during weigh-ins. The former Alabama starter played to his size during practice, dominating opponents. Johnson did not give up an inch against anyone he faced and was solid as both a run blocker and in pass protection.

Dan Williams/DT/Tennessee: Williams was ferocious on the inside and pushed blockers around all day. He possesses terrific power and was able to collapse the pocket or bullrush opponents off the ball. Williams continues to move up draft boards

Sliders
Terrence Cody/DT/Alabama: Cody looked poorly conditioned on Monday, tipping the scales at a sloppy 370 pounds. During practice he quickly tired and struggled to keep pace with the rest of the linemen. He was pushed to the ground and handled by lesser opponents on a number of occasions.
Selvish Capers/T/West Virginia: Capers struggled from the get-go. He was beaten around the corner by speed rushers or pushed back off the line by power opponents. All too often Capers was left to pull himself off the field after being pushed to the ground by opponents.

Notes

One of the more interesting prospects on the field is former Alabama-Birmingham quarterback Joe Webb, who's exclusively lining up at receiver during the Senior Bowl. After some early bumps in practice, Webb got his feet underneath him and looked like the transition to his new position would be a smooth one. Webb's day culminated when he beat Florida State's Patrick Robinson on a deep route and made a difficult, over-the-shoulder reception.

Myron Rolle, the Rhodes Scholar recipient who did not play football last season, looked solid for a someone that's been away from football for a year.

Florida quarterback Tim Tebow drew the largest crowds, but it was a coach who received the biggest cheer. At the start of the South's practice Monday afternoon, a black SUV made its' way onto the practice area. Nick Saban then stepped from the vehicle to the thunderous applause of the Alabama faithful, many who jumped to their feet to cheer their national-title-winning coach.


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/01/25/seniorbowl.monday/index.html#ixzz0dpQ541mh


Risers day 2

Dexter McCluster/RB/Mississippi: McCluster has a slight build at 5-foot-8 and 165-pounds, yet plays big. He was one of the best players on the field Tuesday. He displayed a darting style on the inside and ran hard between the tackles. McCluster is also fast and consistently beat defenders around the corner or made big receptions downfield as a pass catcher. He's being compared favorably to Leon Washington, the former Pro Bowl player from the Jets.

Taylor Price/WR/Ohio: Price has put together two outstanding days of practice. He's a speedster (sub-4.4 in the 40) and plays to that time. Price quickly released off the line, ran good routes and constantly got separation from opponents. He's also caught everything thrown his way. Several teams have Price rated as a top-60 pick in April's draft.

Mardy Gilyard/WR/Cincinnati: Gilyard is another receiver that has made his mark in Mobile. He also runs good routes and consistently finds a way to get free from defenders. Gilyard is both quick and fast and has made a number of solid receptions both days.

Shawn Lauvao/G/Arizona State: Lauvao has been playing his more natural position, offensive guard, after spending his senior season at left tackle for the Sun Devils. He's looked outstanding and has been applauded by coaches on a number of occasions. He rather easily handled the highly rated Jared Odrick of Penn State in drills, then later showed his athleticism in scrimmage by annihilating several linebackers when asked to block on the move.

Alex Carrington/DE/Arkansas State: Carrington entered the game branded as a quick athlete who lacked the strength to beat larger blockers. Thus far, he's quelled that criticism. Carrington has displayed a complete game over the first two days and has run over blockers besides beating them off the corner. Carrington beat the highly rated Mike Iupati in drills and was loudly commended by coaches on the field.

Tyson Aluala/DT/California: Aluala worked hard, played with good technique and showed a lot of power. He easily held the point or defeated blocks all day. Aluala has impressed scouts who feel he has the potential to line up at defensive tackle or as a 2-gap end.

Joique Bell/RB/Wayne State: The small-school prospect has turned heads since stepping on the field. He broke several long runs on Tuesday, displaying outstanding vision and a burst. Bell ran hard on the inside and has competed well all week.

Kyle Wilson/CB/Boise State: Wilson was feisty from the start of the day, battling receivers and breaking up several throws. He's very quick and plays the cornerback position with a degree of suddenness. Wilson has definitely established himself as one of the better cornerbacks from the senior class.

Colin Peek/TE/Alabama: Peek is not the best athlete on the field nor the strongest, yet all he's done this week is make plays. He's done a terrific job as a blocker, taking on then handling larger opponents. Peek also made a number of big receptions, beating defenders into the secondary then coming away with the ball. Peek has improved his draft stock at least a round this week.

J.D. Walton/C/Baylor: Walton really stepped up his play on Tuesday after a slow start on Monday. He blocked with great fundamentals and controlled opponents at the line of scrimmage besides displaying the ability to effectively block on the move. The top spot at center from the senior class is up for grabs, and Walton is stating his case.
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Taylor Mays/S/USC: Mays checked in at a chiseled 231 pounds, but may be a little too big for the safety position. He looked stiff and mechanical with his defensive back fundamentals and really showed limited skills in pass coverage drills. Teams may start projecting Mays to outside linebacker based on his inability to make plays in centerfield.

Darryl Sharpton/LB/Miami (Fla.): Sharpton struggled all day and showed few skills in coverage, besides getting blocked from the action on a continuous basis. He was consistently beaten in drills and chased the action rather and made few plays.

Dekoda Watson/LB/Florida State: Watson also struggled throughout the day. He gave up a lot of receptions in coverage drills and was very slow to react to plays all day. Watson turned in a disappointing senior campaign and has continued that trend in the post season.

Sean Canfield/QB/Oregon State: Canfield threw the ball with poor passing fundamentals and showed marginal arm strength. He sprayed passes throughout the day and really struggled to accurately hit receivers in stride. Canfield was a late riser after a terrific senior campaign, yet has done nothing to establish himself as a draft pick the past two days.

mussop
01-27-2010, 09:06 AM
I really appreciate the updates! I'm stuck in Austin mon-thurs and have Time Warner which = no NFL network.

Your not missing anything. The NFL's coverage sucks bad! Too much Tebow and not enough anyone else. I would of expected that from ESPN.

mussop
01-27-2010, 09:08 AM
Some really good info here as well.

http://www.draftinsider.net/

Wolf6151
01-27-2010, 01:01 PM
Good write ups Mussop, really appreciate it, keep it going. Another site that I like for updates.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/


Also if Terrence Cody doesn't lose some serious weight by the combine then he's going to fall dramatically. He was projected as a 1st rounder now he could go in the 3rd or later if he doesn't lose some weight and gain some conditioning. A 2 down DT is 4th or 5th round material.

mussop
01-27-2010, 01:32 PM
Coverage is bettter on NFL neteowk today. Watching it now on DVR.

bah007
01-27-2010, 06:02 PM
Good write ups Mussop, really appreciate it, keep it going. Another site that I like for updates.

http://www.footballsfuture.com/


Also if Terrence Cody doesn't lose some serious weight by the combine then he's going to fall dramatically. He was projected as a 1st rounder now he could go in the 3rd or later if he doesn't lose some weight and gain some conditioning. A 2 down DT is 4th or 5th round material.

Cody could lose 40 pounds and he would still be a two down player. I have had this guy rated as a third rounder or worse ever since I first saw him play last year.

threetoedpete
01-28-2010, 01:08 AM
Iupati seemed constricted in box, standing too upright, needs more knee bend, spread feet out to balance & anchor his massive frame, seems to get by on strength alone, would like to see how he looks on edge with more space to get low, down & dirty.

Guards
Mike Iupati 35 inch arms,10 " hands 326 with the feet to play LT could break into top 20 picks

He's not there yet..let's slow down just a little bit. I advise all to find a copy of the humanitarian bowl... And just watch Iupati play. The guy is just too raw right now to kick outside. What I believe is two years form now.....he could cover four out of five o-line positions. and depending on Briseil....he's our starting RG in September, if someone doesn't snap him up before the 20 pick. . Just like Owen Daniels stautus.....we've heard it is unlikely they resign Chester Pitts, and I don't know what the status is on Briseil.....According to John McClain....they're going after a DT like Carrington, Ordick, or C.J. Willson with the twenty pick. Today McClain said we don't need no stinking rushing attack. So you tell me. Got a coach who cried for six months that he had no rushing attack.....and now they are talking up DT's, skinny DTs. Looking at the defensive tackles we'll be facing next year...Iupati makes a lot of sense to me. He's a rare humane being. Perfect size for a guard, little over 6'5", 10 inch hands, 34" arms.....Just like Jacoby Jones and Barwin he's just raw right now. The only question is: is he quick enough for the scheme? I believe he is. He's just inexperienced. But he is smart. I'd have no problem with the guy at twenty. What I know for a fact is they can't go into '10 with the three quick guards and hope. That would be like Charles Spencer part II. We'll see what he runs at the combine and his cone drills. I've pretty much swallowed the hook on him though. Nothing wrong with Andre Caldwell, Casey Studard, and Chris White, they just don't have enough girth to protect Chris Myers on the right....and I really doubt Myers is going anywhere until Caldwell is on line and ready to start. Iupati will probably go to Pittsburgh. If There are fifteen clubs crazy enough to let him fall to us...It's no brainer for me.

threetoedpete
01-28-2010, 01:33 AM
Cody could lose 40 pounds and he would still be a two down player. I have had this guy rated as a third rounder or worse ever since I first saw him play last year.
Wanna see the pictures ?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com//multimedia/photo_gallery/1001/nfl.cfb.senior.bowl.practice/content.2.html

I think it's going to take a lot of courage for an organization to take the guy. How long has Corey Stringer incident been now ? Maybe Micheal Myers can line him up with a guest star as the long lost cousin of one of his famous characters on his James Bond spoofs. The guy is so strong, it's just a shame.

beerlover
01-28-2010, 01:52 AM
He's not there yet..let's slow down just a little bit. I advise all to find a copy of the humanitarian bowl... And just watch Iupati play. The guy is just too raw right now to kick outside. What I believe is two years form now.....he could cover four out of five o-line positions. and depending on Briseil....he's our starting RG in September, if someone doesn't snap him up before the 20 pick. . Just like Owen Daniels stautus.....we've heard it is unlikely they resign Chester Pitts, and I don't know what the status is on Briseil.....According to John McClain....they're going after a DT like Carrington, Ordick, or C.J. Willson with the twenty pick. Today McClain said we don't need no stinking rushing attack. So you tell me. Got a coach who cried for six months that he had no rushing attack.....and now they are talking up DT's, skinny DTs. Looking at the defensive tackles we'll be facing next year...Iupati makes a lot of sense to me. He's a rare humane being. Perfect size for a guard, little over 6'5", 10 inch hands, 34" arms.....Just like Jacoby Jones and Barwin he's just raw right now. The only question is: is he quick enough for the scheme? I believe he is. He's just inexperienced. But he is smart. I'd have no problem with the guy at twenty. What I know for a fact is they can't go into '10 with the three quick guards and hope. That would be like Charles Spencer part II. We'll see what he runs at the combine and his cone drills. I've pretty much swallowed the hook on him though. Nothing wrong with Andre Caldwell, Casey Studard, and Chris White, they just don't have enough girth to protect Chris Myers on the right....and I really doubt Myers is going anywhere until Caldwell is on line and ready to start. Iupati will probably go to Pittsburgh. If There are fifteen clubs crazy enough to let him fall to us...It's no brainer for me.

great to read you again, where ya been :peek:

Iupati is unique & not going to argue w/late mid 1st rd. draft grade. But do we all beleive the Texans will address OL this early? Brown was the exception, w/Gibbs gone I doubt this changes or Dennison pulls enough weight to hit another OL player first day? Me..... I think this offense could use more beef up front (OL) & electric speed in backfield (RB). We'll see :)

nero THE zero
01-28-2010, 09:18 AM
.According to John McClain....they're going after a DT like Carrington, Ordick, or C.J. Willson with the twenty pick. Today McClain said we don't need no stinking rushing attack.

Where was this, 3TP? Do you have a link?

HOU-TEX
01-28-2010, 10:01 AM
I've said this before, but if a team drafts Tebow as a QB they're going to have their work cut out for them. The dude's an outstanding athlete, but he's a white Byrin Leftwich when it comes to throwing technique.

http://www.houstontexans.com/uploads/photo/thumbs/11844.jpg

kiwitexansfan
01-28-2010, 10:13 AM
SydQuan Thompson Questionable long speed, Maybe the best hitting CB Mayock has ever seen. Most aggressive corner in this years draft.

This lost me right here, aggressive and hard hitting are two qualities that don't appeal to me in a corner (read this as a criticism of Dunta Robinson who was praised for these skills).

Ball skills, speed, awareness do. If they have these and can hit too, that is a bonus.

HuttoKarl
01-28-2010, 10:22 AM
He's not there yet..let's slow down just a little bit. I advise all to find a copy of the humanitarian bowl... And just watch Iupati play. The guy is just too raw right now to kick outside. What I believe is two years form now.....he could cover four out of five o-line positions. and depending on Briseil....he's our starting RG in September, if someone doesn't snap him up before the 20 pick. . Just like Owen Daniels stautus.....we've heard it is unlikely they resign Chester Pitts, and I don't know what the status is on Briseil.....According to John McClain....they're going after a DT like Carrington, Ordick, or C.J. Willson with the twenty pick. Today McClain said we don't need no stinking rushing attack. So you tell me. Got a coach who cried for six months that he had no rushing attack.....and now they are talking up DT's, skinny DTs. Looking at the defensive tackles we'll be facing next year...Iupati makes a lot of sense to me. He's a rare humane being. Perfect size for a guard, little over 6'5", 10 inch hands, 34" arms.....Just like Jacoby Jones and Barwin he's just raw right now. The only question is: is he quick enough for the scheme? I believe he is. He's just inexperienced. But he is smart. I'd have no problem with the guy at twenty. What I know for a fact is they can't go into '10 with the three quick guards and hope. That would be like Charles Spencer part II. We'll see what he runs at the combine and his cone drills. I've pretty much swallowed the hook on him though. Nothing wrong with Andre Caldwell, Casey Studard, and Chris White, they just don't have enough girth to protect Chris Myers on the right....and I really doubt Myers is going anywhere until Caldwell is on line and ready to start. Iupati will probably go to Pittsburgh. If There are fifteen clubs crazy enough to let him fall to us...It's no brainer for me.

Guard is probably the least "sexy" position, but it's so crucial. I'd be disappointed if Iupati was there when we pick and we end up with someone else.

infantrycak
01-28-2010, 10:34 AM
Where was this, 3TP? Do you have a link?

Nowhere since McClain said the rushing game was the #1 priority for the Texans.

Blake
01-28-2010, 11:20 AM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Observations/Wednesday.php

January 27, 2010
2010 Senior Bowl - Player / Team Observations

Lonyae Miller
Daryl Washington
Mike Iupati

rmartin65
01-28-2010, 12:36 PM
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Observations/Wednesday.php

January 27, 2010
2010 Senior Bowl - Player / Team Observations

Lonyae Miller
Daryl Washington
Mike Iupati

Heck yeah!! I would take all three of those guys.

nero THE zero
01-28-2010, 01:16 PM
Nowhere since McClain said the rushing game was the #1 priority for the Texans.

That's what I'd been hearing/reading from him, as well.

From his latest chat (http://blogs.chron.com/nfl/2010/01/super_bowl_xliv_chat_at_1130_a.html):
John McClain:
Hampton is going to be 33 and doesn't play in their system. Wilfork will be franchised. They want a young, hungry DT who can rush the passer. It won't be a priority like RB and CB if Dunta leaves.

WolverineFan
01-28-2010, 01:47 PM
Guys that are really helping their stock at the Senior Bowl . . .

Mike Iupati - G, Idaho
- Easily the most impressive offensive lineman there

J. D. Walton - C, Baylor
- Has solidified his spot as the best Center in the draft

Brandon Graham - DE, Michigan
- The most dominant pass rusher at the game right now. He made lineman look silly in 1 on 1's.

Dan Williams - NT, Tennessee
- Questions about his ability to stay on the field and contribute have been answered

Daryl Washington - MLB, TCU
- Has not been outstanding, but has proved to scouts that he belongs there. Very athletic.

Kyle Wilson - CB, Boise State
- Owned the 1st day on defense and while still playing well has been overshadowed by . .

Brandon Ghee - CB, Wake Forest
- Has been overall the most surprising prospect so far. Originally seen as a 2nd-3rd rd prospect he is a borderline 1st now.

Perrish Cox - CB, Oklahoma State
- Has cooled off the last 2 days, but has still been impressive

Myron Rolle - SS, Florida State
- Is blowing scouts away with his ability. The guy has zero rust at all after taking a year off to study at Oxford.

Guys that are really falling . . .

Terrence Cody - NT, Alabama
- Can't stay on the field and while he dominated 1 on 1's, he is outmatched during acual play

Tim Tebow - QB, Florida
- All my doubts have been answered. He will not be an NFL QB.

Taylor Mays - S, USC
- All my doubts have been answered. He has no ball skills, no instincts, and is poor in coverage. A move to OLB is inevitable.

badboy
01-28-2010, 02:08 PM
Thanks for info on Asamoah, Petrus, Wilson, Cox & Joique Bell. I need info if possible on Jerome Murphy CB/FS S. Florida
Akawasi Owusu-Ansah FS/CB
Chad Owens FS LSU
Robert Johnson FS Utah
Thomas Austin LG/C/OT Clemson

Thanks to any and all.

threetoedpete
01-28-2010, 03:16 PM
Nowhere since McClain said the rushing game was the #1 priority for the Texans.

It's in the six ten archives some where. He just said it again the past Monday. and....threw in: do we really need a rushing attack ? and I'm not going in there and looking for hours. He's said it twice.

threetoedpete
01-28-2010, 03:24 PM
great to read you again, where ya been :peek:

Iupati is unique & not going to argue w/late mid 1st rd. draft grade. But do we all beleive the Texans will address OL this early? Brown was the exception, w/Gibbs gone I doubt this changes or Dennison pulls enough weight to hit another OL player first day? Me..... I think this offense could use more beef up front (OL) & electric speed in backfield (RB). We'll see :)

I got in a fight with someone over Owen Daniels and just figured life is too short. I put up what I'm thinking on another thread. I had no Idea who Iupati was until the Humanitarian bowl. I wouldn't be disappointed in one of the Rbs or a Db. I trust our scouts. I'm just believe it's pretty useless to draft guys with the Idea we're going to out cover or put enough consistant pressure to make any significant difference playing the Colts. We could always luck out and Manning rip up his knee in the Big Game. My course of action would be to draft the best person that keeps the SOB on the bench.

nero THE zero
01-28-2010, 03:54 PM
It's in the six ten archives some where. He just said it again the past Monday. and....threw in: do we really need a rushing attack ? and I'm not going in there and looking for hours. He's said it twice.

I just linked a quote from his chat where he explicitly states that the Texans are valuing RB over DT.

infantrycak
01-28-2010, 04:21 PM
It's in the six ten archives some where. He just said it again the past Monday. and....threw in: do we really need a rushing attack ? and I'm not going in there and looking for hours. He's said it twice.

I listened to him Monday and he said rushing attack #1 although that might not mean RB in the 1st.

dalemurphy
01-29-2010, 11:14 AM
I would absolutely love to get Tebow in round 3! He could be the emergency QB, play some HB, FB, come in on special packages, etc... I know Kubiak isn't into gimmicks like Wildcat, but this is a situation where the organization's desire to fill a roster with "good guys" might really pay off... Because, as a mid rounder, this guy is gold, IMO.

steelbtexan
01-29-2010, 11:55 AM
I would absolutely love to get Tebow in round 3! He could be the emergency QB, play some HB, FB, come in on special packages, etc... I know Kubiak isn't into gimmicks like Wildcat, but this is a situation where the organization's desire to fill a roster with "good guys" might really pay off... Because, as a mid rounder, this guy is gold, IMO.

Yeh he could be a jack of all trades short yardage, goal line QB,slot WR, a great ST guy)

All while Kubes teaches him how to be an NFL QB.

bah007
01-29-2010, 12:57 PM
I would absolutely love to get Tebow in round 3! He could be the emergency QB, play some HB, FB, come in on special packages, etc... I know Kubiak isn't into gimmicks like Wildcat, but this is a situation where the organization's desire to fill a roster with "good guys" might really pay off... Because, as a mid rounder, this guy is gold, IMO.

We already have Casey who can do all the same things.

4Texans
01-29-2010, 01:04 PM
I would absolutely love to get Tebow in round 3! He could be the emergency QB, play some HB, FB, come in on special packages, etc... I know Kubiak isn't into gimmicks like Wildcat, but this is a situation where the organization's desire to fill a roster with "good guys" might really pay off... Because, as a mid rounder, this guy is gold, IMO.

I wouldn't mind having Tebow at all either, but right now he's saying he is a QB, wants to be drafted as a QB, and play QB in the NFL. That's going to hurt his stock with the majority of the teams. He's certainly not showing that he can play QB at the Sr Bowl. Once he's convinced himself that he has to play (and is willing to play) some HB, TE, or where ever, then his stock will rise. Casey does all that for us.

I guess what I'm getting at is, I don't see the Texans drafting him because he says he's a QB and is not willing to be that versatile guy that Kubiak likes. Now if Kubiak thinks he can take him and make him a NFL QB, then they may think about taking him with a mid round pick. They really need to find a young (inexpensive) QB and mold him. They haven't been able to do that. Maybe Booty will be that guy. Orlovsky hasn't shown anything.

Hagar
01-29-2010, 02:29 PM
According to Draft Countdown (http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/SeniorBowl/reports/Observations/Thursday.php), the Texans talked to LeGarrette Blount after Thursdays practice. Interesting that the Texans are talking to Blount given his history. However, given his size and ability and the idea that they could get him in later rounds, I like the idea.

dalemurphy
01-29-2010, 03:44 PM
Yeh he could be a jack of all trades short yardage, goal line QB,slot WR, a great ST guy)

All while Kubes teaches him how to be an NFL QB.

exactly. And, as a backup QB, I think he'd be quickly effective in Kubes' offense (relatively speaking). If he were forced to play, we'd see lots of bootlegs and things to get him to press the outside/backside of the defense and also reduce his reads to half of the field. I think that is the kind of formula that can be effective at backup QB in the short term (1-3 games).

Honoring Earl 34
01-29-2010, 03:59 PM
Here's some more .

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-01-28/senior-bowl-dish-best-best-idahos-iupati-ole-miss-mccluster

Hagar
01-29-2010, 04:15 PM
Here's some more .

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/article/2010-01-28/senior-bowl-dish-best-best-idahos-iupati-ole-miss-mccluster

Good stuff from the article:

Best inside runner: LeGarrette Blount, Oregon. We expected to see his powerful running style this week, but scouts were caught off-guard with his quickness and ability to burst through holes into the second level.

Best pass blocker: Mike Iupati, Idaho. He showed the strength to take on and stalemate bull rushers and the short-area quickness to change directions to neutralize stunts or handle speed rushers.

Best run blocker: Iupati. He is an extremely violent run blocker at the point of attack, consistently able to blow up his man at the line of scrimmage.

Strongest offensive lineman: Iupati. No surprise here—Iupati easily was the most dominant lineman at this year's Senior Bowl.


If we have a chance to take Iupati, which it looks like we might, and pass, I'm going to be very unhappy.

rmartin65
01-29-2010, 04:21 PM
Well, since I introduced Iupati, I have been very impressed by him. So I am very pleased to see he is solidifying his status.

Blount is interesting. I would take him in the 5th. I would prefer other people, but I would not be terribly upset.

steelbtexan
01-29-2010, 08:11 PM
Well, since I introduced Iupati, I have been very impressed by him. So I am very pleased to see he is solidifying his status.

Blount is interesting. I would take him in the 5th. I would prefer other people, but I would not be terribly upset.

You found a Real sleeper in Iupati. He will be a multiple time pro-bowler.

I would draft Stafon Johnson in the 5th but Blount would also be a good choice.

Ole Miss Texan
01-30-2010, 12:28 AM
Sounds like some guys REALLY made themselves some money this week. Here's a short list of guys i'm interested in that have really impressed scouts.

DT Dan Williams
CB Perrish Cox
CB Kyle Wilson
S Myron Rolle
RB Legarrette Blount
WR Dexter McCluster
OG Mike Iupati

I think Blount is the most likely to slip due to off field issues. Texans were spotted talking to him so interviews will be important to see if he is mature enough for us.

Williams, Cox, Wilson and Iupate all look like mid/late 1st to early 2nd rd guys to me. McCluster is a wildcard but my gut says he goes late 1st to late 2nd. I have NO IDEA about where Rolle is likely to go.

My hopes are that the Texans can re-sign their own FA's, add a new OG and RB through FA and then focus on all this Defensive talent early in the draft. I think the best value at our pick during rounds 1-3 will be on the defensive side of the ball, although it seems theres going to be a lot of really good prospects available in general.

beerlover
01-30-2010, 01:26 AM
Sounds like some guys REALLY made themselves some money this week. Here's a short list of guys i'm interested in that have really impressed scouts.

DT Dan Williams
CB Perrish Cox
CB Kyle Wilson
S Myron Rolle
RB Legarrette Blount
WR Dexter McCluster
OG Mike Iupati

I think Blount is the most likely to slip due to off field issues. Texans were spotted talking to him so interviews will be important to see if he is mature enough for us.

Williams, Cox, Wilson and Iupate all look like mid/late 1st to early 2nd rd guys to me. McCluster is a wildcard but my gut says he goes late 1st to late 2nd. I have NO IDEA about where Rolle is likely to go.

My hopes are that the Texans can re-sign their own FA's, add a new OG and RB through FA and then focus on all this Defensive talent early in the draft. I think the best value at our pick during rounds 1-3 will be on the defensive side of the ball, although it seems theres going to be a lot of really good prospects available in general.

is McCluster your annual man crush prospect?

Ole Miss Texan
01-30-2010, 01:37 AM
is McCluster your annual man crush prospect?

Yup, gotta have one every year! You always have to pick a player you really really want but know that there's a very small likelihood we actually select him.

I've been reading really good things about Myron Rolle and how fluid he looks. I doubt he's going to be the ball hawking FS we want, word is he's more of a SS. But that got me thinking about our team and am wondering what Kubiak would think of having a Rolle/Pollard safety duo. Thoughts?

Little bit about him: Born in Houston, Texas. Graduated from Florida St. in 5 semesters in PreMed with a 3.75 GPA. Rhode Scholar.

mussop
01-30-2010, 03:35 AM
Well, since I introduced Iupati, I have been very impressed by him. So I am very pleased to see he is solidifying his status.

Blount is interesting. I would take him in the 5th. I would prefer other people, but I would not be terribly upset.

I believe that honor goes to 76Texan.

Blount would be a steal in the 4th if he checks out in his interveiws.

rmartin65
01-30-2010, 11:33 AM
I also want to admit that I was wrong about Rolle. If anything, he looks better than he did 2 years ago. I could see him as a second/third rounder.

rmartin65
01-30-2010, 11:35 AM
I believe that honor goes to 76Texan.

Blount would be a steal in the 4th if he checks out in his interveiws.

Really? I must have missed it, when was that?

Blount, eh, not so sure about 4th. 5th is where I would take him. Good player, messed up in the head. Talent wise though, he is a third rounder. Powerful runner with decent speed.

EDIT- Nice call 76Texan, I missed that thread.

beerlover
01-30-2010, 01:00 PM
Really? I must have missed it, when was that?

Blount, eh, not so sure about 4th. 5th is where I would take him. Good player, messed up in the head. Talent wise though, he is a third rounder. Powerful runner with decent speed.

EDIT- Nice call 76Texan, I missed that thread.

if the draft geek patrol won't give you Iupati how about Gerhart, at least in my eyes you opened them up to him :ahhaha: