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TexSon
04-30-2004, 09:05 PM
Texans | McCree Re-signed - from www.KFFL.com
HoustonTexans.com reports the Houston Texans have re-signed restricted free agent SS Marlon McCree


Well, I for one am glad we got him locked up... should be an interesting battle between him and Coleman for starting FS. If Coleman pulls off the switch, McCree will be an excellent backup. We are finally starting to see some quality depth!

keyfro
04-30-2004, 09:15 PM
well notice that they labeled McCree a SS...not FS...coleman is our starting FS now...but what could be the best position battle this offseason might be Brown, McCree, and Earl...but yes it is nice to see quality depth on our team

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-30-2004, 09:18 PM
didnt McCree play SS in Jacksonville?

DoCt3rJ
04-30-2004, 09:20 PM
I thought D.Darius has been their SS for awhile?

TexSon
04-30-2004, 09:23 PM
Yeah, I don't know what to make of the listing as a SS. Is the FS job Coleman's already, without any competition? If so, it seems kinda strange... are they convinced that Coleman will seamlessly adapt to the new position? Or is McCree gonna battle both Coleman and Brown (and Earl) for one or the other starting spots? Will be very entertaining to see how it all plays out.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
04-30-2004, 09:25 PM
I thought D.Darius has been their SS for awhile?



yea, you're right. my mistake.

BuffSoldier
04-30-2004, 09:27 PM
I dont think he will be anything but a backup thanks to the aquisition of Robinson and moving Coleman to FS.

Fiddy
04-30-2004, 09:37 PM
I want McCree to start and FS and Coleman at CB. Listen, we play in the AFC South where the base offense usually contains 3 WR. We need 3 good corners. McCree put up Pro Bowl type #s 2 years ago and is a very good FS. I would still like him to play, plus Coleman may not be back next year.

I wouldnt mind starting Coleman at FS in the base 34, but when we go to Nickel, Dime, etc. I want Coleman at CB and McCree at FS.

infantrycak
04-30-2004, 11:26 PM
well notice that they labeled McCree a SS...not FS...coleman is our starting FS now...but what could be the best position battle this offseason might be Brown, McCree, and Earl...but yes it is nice to see quality depth on our team
I wouldn't put too much weight in the SS label. kffl is a good general news source, but that is exactly the kind of mistake/typo they would make rather than some kind of insider info.

edo783
04-30-2004, 11:39 PM
McCree was a SS for the Jags and got on the wrong side of Fox's team plan. Had very good numbers the previouse season, but Fox wanted someone else. I suspect he might be our SS if Coleman is moved, otherwise he will be the FS. I don't see Brown being able to keep him out of the line up.

Guid2000
04-30-2004, 11:53 PM
Isn't it nice to finally have more quality DBs than there are positions in the base package-depth is finally coming along. This is a good signing. Heck we will even have a solid dime when everyone is healthy.
Glen
Coleman
Robinson
McCree
Brown
Earl
We need this with the CO-MVPs in the division. Leftwich (sp?) will keep getting better too.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
05-01-2004, 12:10 AM
McCree was a SS for the Jags and got on the wrong side of Fox's team plan. Had very good numbers the previouse season, but Fox wanted someone else. I suspect he might be our SS if Coleman is moved, otherwise he will be the FS. I don't see Brown being able to keep him out of the line up.


so i was right the first time :rolleyes:

vtech9
05-01-2004, 12:49 AM
McCree was a FS for the Jags, but he was expected to take over at SS when Darius left through free agency. McCree stated that SS was his natural position and he was looking forward to going back. The only problem with that was that McCree was let go by the Jags before Darius left, and then the Texans signed him to play FS. With the drafting of Robinson, Coleman will battle for the FS position, and McCree will most likely be fighting for both of the safety positions. This is going to be interesting...I can't wait.

Andre_Johnson88
05-01-2004, 01:11 AM
So is the most likely scenario that we will Coleman at FS and Mccree at SS for this season?That would be totally awesome if it happens because just imagine this secondary.......Dunta,Glenn,Coleman,and Mccree.Boy what a starting lineup!

clandestin
05-01-2004, 04:34 AM
Once the talent develops I think we'll have a great deal of flexibility with our current lineup, particularly in the backfield.

AJ88's lineup looks great in passing situations: Robinson, Coleman, McCree, Glenn.

Run Situations could look like: Robinson, Brown, Earl, Glenn

aj.
05-01-2004, 06:40 AM
Eric Brown is our SS and I doubt anyone replaces him as the starter. Brown is more adept than McCree in run support and short routes against backs and TEs. McCree is more of a centerfielder and is better than Brown in deeper coverage.

Game situations will dictate the secondary arrangement. In week 1, I would expect more focus on containment of LT at or near the line of scrimmage. The Chargers have little in terms of multiple deep threats so you play Brown at SS. Week 2 is a different story. When you go against Charles Rogers, Roy Williams, Az-Hakim, and Tai Streets you want your more athletic guys in there and not necessarily the big hitter/run stuffer safety. That's where McCree will be helpful. Right now, Eric Brown's backups are the walking wounded (Ramon Walker and Earl) so depending on how they recover, any number of things could happen behind Brown.

McCree is more suited physically for FS so lets sit back and watch the battle between him and Coleman. However it all works out, we are adding quality depth in the secondary.

phantom17
05-01-2004, 09:50 AM
Good signing! But competition looks good btw all the DBs. :)

Wolf
05-01-2004, 10:03 AM
I would think Glenn would be our Hollings of this year. Take it slow and make sure he recovered so 2005 he will be 100% ready physically AND mentally

Fiddy
05-01-2004, 01:04 PM
I would think Glenn would be our Hollings of this year. Take it slow and make sure he recovered so 2005 he will be 100% ready physically AND mentallyI would like that approach

keyfro
05-01-2004, 01:07 PM
that would be the smart thing to do...i would like everyone who ended up on IR to take it easy during the training camps...i just want a healthy team going into the season...not like last year where we had 3 guys out for the first game...it would be the first time in franchise history if we started the season with everyone uninjuried

Wolf
05-01-2004, 01:15 PM
Eric Brown is our SS and I doubt anyone replaces him as the starter. Brown is more adept than McCree in run support and short routes against backs and TEs. McCree is more of a centerfielder and is better than Brown in deeper coverage.

Game situations will dictate the secondary arrangement. In week 1, I would expect more focus on containment of LT at or near the line of scrimmage. The Chargers have little in terms of multiple deep threats so you play Brown at SS. Week 2 is a different story. When you go against Charles Rogers, Roy Williams, Az-Hakim, and Tai Streets you want your more athletic guys in there and not necessarily the big hitter/run stuffer safety. That's where McCree will be helpful. Right now, Eric Brown's backups are the walking wounded (Ramon Walker and Earl) so depending on how they recover, any number of things could happen behind Brown.

McCree is more suited physically for FS so lets sit back and watch the battle between him and Coleman. However it all works out, we are adding quality depth in the secondary.


that would be sweet. I could see in our nickel coverage. McCree would then step in at FS and Coleman would line up on the 2nd or 3rd receiver with Wright on the 4th or however.. Looks like a major improvement from last years.. In my eyes

keyfro
05-01-2004, 01:18 PM
oh heck yeah it's an improvement over last season...makes our prevent defense much better as well...we have more overall speed on defense now and you all know speed kills :banana:

rittenhouserobz
05-01-2004, 03:50 PM
Great post. I am so glad to here McRee is back. I think a few people tried to underrate his ability. I have never said he was great, but I have always thought he was a solid player. Our secondary has just improved drastically. We have backups who have started and starters that are good. Opposing QB's won't want to play us by the end of the year.

texman8
05-01-2004, 05:39 PM
Yeah, our secondary should be much improved. Hopefully, our starting DL of Smith,Payne, and Walker stays healthy. Babin and Peek will make some impact.

TexSon
05-02-2004, 05:47 PM
His transition will be seemless.

Hmmm... I'm not convinced. His tackling at times becomes very sloppy and for his size he isn't always that physical. He also at times has concentration lapses... which for the QB of the D can pose some problems. Of course every player has these problems occasionally. I think he has the potential to be a very good center field type safety... but he has some flaws in his game to work out. Hopefully he can easily adjust.

keyfro
05-02-2004, 06:23 PM
well here at tech he was a FS...not a corner...and a very good one at that...keep in mind he's sloppiness as you put is do from lack of response time...as a safety that responce time increases...so i would think his transition should be seemless since he's played the position for years...he has the right size and speed for this position...as for corner his size was great but he did lack the 4th gear to keep up with the speed recievers...as a FS he should be a much improved player overall

Wolf
05-02-2004, 07:26 PM
very true. personally, I thought our secondary wasn't as bad as the stats show. What I saw was basically a basic defense that was nothing more than a bend but don't break type. I say that I didn't think the secondary was that bad because we played with a DL that missed it's main players and QB's would have time to scan their options, tie their show and then throw. I don't care who you have back in the secondary, if you give an NFL qb that much time he will find the mistakes in coverage. Along with that, our shut down corner was injured on and off during the season.. That is alot to ask of a secondary that is in it's 2nd year of a system and McCree didn't come in until the start of the 2nd year. If I am not mistaken, with our lack of pressure, we played alot of zone.

:)

Fiddy
05-02-2004, 07:30 PM
I didnt think the secondary was a problem either. I thought the problem was on 3rd and 9 the QB would have approximently 1 entire minute to throw the ball.

El Tejano
05-03-2004, 02:03 PM
All I know is Mcree returned a Steve Mcnair interception for like 80 yards last year and put us right back in the game. I will always remember him for that and I am glad he is back on the team.

However, we did give up a game winning touchdown that game due to lack of pressure and failure to respond on the last throw so there was some inconsistency going and I think that will be worked out this year.

keyfro
05-03-2004, 02:30 PM
yeah the 95 yd int return was great...it was my first texan game to see live...i was on the titan bench side 3rd row and totally got on to mcnair for that one...it was great...the best part is when they announced it was the longest play in texan history you could see mcnair shutter...it's great that he's back on the team...we can use him for more than just a back up FS...he can take over the starting SS spot if brown gets hurt...he can be a nickel or a dime back...he's a real versitle player that will help this team out a lot

281
05-03-2004, 06:11 PM
Does anybody know how long we signed McCree for?

infantrycak
05-03-2004, 09:57 PM
One year contract tender offer for a RFA.

Ibar_Harry
05-03-2004, 10:34 PM
We drafted defensively, but perhaps the biggest change defensively is in the coaching ranks. I think people were quietly let go and you will see a very much more aggressive defense this year based on the new coaches and their attitudes. I think we will surprise a lot of people this year if we are healthy. I think we will potentially shut some people down who don't expect it. My biggest concern is the offense and can we score points. We did better last year, but we can help the defense by putting more points on the board. This could be a very exciting year. We have some new teachers on the defensive side of the ball and it will intersting to see their approach. I have a feeling we are going to be very happy with our new defensive staff.

aj.
05-04-2004, 12:07 PM
Does anybody know how long we signed McCree for?
One year, 628k. Same as DeLoach and Holloway. Minimum RFA tender.

TMac48
05-04-2004, 06:39 PM
Im happy. This is great depth for the defense. Not only can McCree back-up safety, he can step in and allow Coleman to replace an injured corner if needed.

V Man
05-05-2004, 09:09 AM
Im happy. This is great depth for the defense. Not only can McCree back-up safety, he can step in and allow Coleman to replace an injured corner if needed.

Agreed, he will be great experienced depth which will really help the team.

El Tejano
05-05-2004, 09:20 AM
I went to sleep last night thinking about the possibilities this brings. I was thinking with the playing time Demarcus got last year, and with Mcree back, our nickle and dime packages are going to be great and will allow Capers to get creative with coverages and blitzes. I am very interested in seeing how our secondary does this season.