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Paragon Blue
03-01-2005, 10:41 PM
Adam Shefter from NFL network was reporting that the Texans were interested in aquiring Ron Dayne. What do you guys think? Change of pace from DD.

TheTim5125
03-01-2005, 10:43 PM
he was a first round pick who in my opinion never got a shot to play playing behind tiki barber... i think it'd be a good pick up

AndreJ
03-01-2005, 10:45 PM
Adam Shefter from NFL network was reporting that the Texans were interested in aquiring Ron Dayne. What do you guys think? Change of pace from DD.

I saw that too, they would share a good amount of time together in my opinion, unless the unthinkable happens and DD comes out and puts up 2000 yards next season Lmf@o. I really like how Wells ran the ball last year though, he proved to me that he is a solid backup and I would like to see him stay especially once the O-Line takes that next step and improves more on the run blocking.

WildBlackBear32
03-01-2005, 10:47 PM
If people around here think DD is a goalline back...I wonder what that would make Dayne with us...

Grid
03-01-2005, 10:50 PM
Unless he comes cheap.. I dont like it. Im not sold on his talent.. and im not so sure he would be better than wells.

Wells has the funky "spin move power running" style.. Dane has a funky "feet shuffling, slow hole hitting power running" style.

give me LaMont Jordan or giving me no one at all.

AndreJ
03-01-2005, 10:52 PM
Unless he comes cheap.. I dont like it. Im not sold on his talent.. and im not so sure he would be better than wells.

Wells has the funky "spin move power running" style.. Dane has a funky "feet shuffling, slow hole hitting power running" style.

give me LaMont Jordan or giving me no one at all.

I drool at the thought of Jordan and DD as running backs for us.

TexansJunkE
03-02-2005, 03:32 PM
I really think we won't pick a back up in FA. I think that they are hoping to nab a back in the draft. Dare a say .............Benson? :hmmm: He may fall with the great work outs by the other two backs.

TEXANS84
03-02-2005, 03:37 PM
give me LaMont Jordan or giving me no one at all.

Well then you shall recieve nothing.. :)


-- Jordan Flying to Oakland --
Wed Mar 2, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

ESPN's John Clayton reports the Oakland Raiders contacted free-agent RB LaMont Jordan (Jets) and convinced him to fly to Oakland to try to get him signed today. The Jets have a very strong offer on the table to keep him, but the Dolphins and Bucs are also in pursuit. The Raiders are currently $2.3 million under the cap, but they have to clear more space to fit in the Moss contract and even more to do Jordan. Among the guys who could get cut are DT John Parrella and OG Ron Stone.

bckey
03-02-2005, 03:41 PM
I don't think Dayne would be a good pick up. I agree with Grid about Lamont Jordon though.

Gilly
03-02-2005, 03:46 PM
I agree with Grid on this one. I think Wells did a heck of a job last year and prove to be a Quality back up. unless he comes really cheap, No Thanks.

ThaShark316
03-02-2005, 03:47 PM
That LaMont Jordan thing was finished when he said he wanted to be an every down back...he wouldn't get every down here. Grid, I know u have a man-crush on L-Jordan, but sadly, he won't come here. :thumbdown


LIKE I SAID IN DECEMBER...DRAFT Kay-Jay Harris and shut up about Running Backs. :heh: :thumbup

F-minus67
03-02-2005, 03:49 PM
I would rather have A-train from chi town, he is younger and has had a lot more play time than Dayne.

SESupergenius
03-02-2005, 03:52 PM
I would rather have A-train from chi town, he is younger and has had a lot more play time than Dayne.
Depends on who costs more. I think Dayne is a better fit. The guy had a great preseason last and seemed to be refreshed. I'd go after him if not just as an upgrade to Wells alone.

keyfro
03-02-2005, 04:43 PM
you know the thing about jordon and thomas is they want to come in and be the main back...and they want main back money...dayne will come for the vet. minimum with a contract with bonuses stating that if he gains such and such yards he gets more money...dayne has a lot to prove to the nfl...he took a great step this past season showing up to griants training camp slimmer and more fit...i think if he can keep his weight in check he can be a real monster of a runningback...but i also think going with harris in the draft would be the better option...the only thing to remember there is no garentee you can get a certain back in the draft...casserly might be thinking better to get this guy than hope for this other guy to be there in the draft

edo783
03-02-2005, 04:50 PM
Not sure that I see enough of a performance difference to make this a good thing to do. Wells did fairly well last year in the backup role and Dayne did well in pre-season, but neither one is outstanding or feature back qualified IMO. So, do we go through this drill just for another "OK" backup type back? Or, might we be 86ing Hollings? In truth, Hollings has shown squat IMO and the coaches may be done with him.

Vinny
03-02-2005, 04:51 PM
Next years backs will be Dom, Hollings and _______ and _______. No way they have given up on Hollings. Hollings was in a ton of special teams packages last year and that is exactly how the Bronco's groom their backs early in their careers.

Grid
03-02-2005, 05:10 PM
Id say Wells and that other RB that looked so good in preseason last year that got hurt :). cant ever remember his name.

Anywho.. about Jordan. if we were to sign him he WOULD be an every down back. Well.. close enough anyway. He would be our Curtis Martin, and DD would be our LaMont Jordan.

If the Raiders sign him that will suck.. but oh well.. there are other backs to be had. And besides.. if our runblocking continues to work like it did at the end of the season, then DD will be all the back we need.

titan hater
03-02-2005, 05:17 PM
i disagree on hollings vinny....dude gets hurt getting out of bed...if they can get rd they should...however, if wells stays he is a good enough back up untill dd gets off ir.

SESupergenius
03-02-2005, 05:34 PM
Hollings is on the verge of being a bust. Can't stay healthy and may tend to cough up the rock. No need to drag it out any further.

Vinny
03-02-2005, 05:46 PM
Texans | Close to Acquiring Dayne - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:43:35 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans are close to acquiring RB Ron Dayne (Giants) from the New York Giants. A deal could be announced as early as Wednesday, March 2.

Grid
03-02-2005, 05:54 PM
If we sign him.. Who do you think we would let go? Id be pretty disappointed if we let Wells go.. honestly I think he is a great backup and deserves to stay. Hollings on the other hand I think is a bust and we would be making a mistake if we kept him over Wells.

Ah well.. who knows.. maybe with the zone blocking Dayne will turn into Portis.

wags
03-02-2005, 05:55 PM
Texans | Close to Acquiring Dayne - from www.KFFL.com
Wed, 2 Mar 2005 13:43:35 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Houston Texans are close to acquiring RB Ron Dayne (Giants) from the New York Giants. A deal could be announced as early as Wednesday, March 2.

:confused:
Wasn't the knock on Ron Dayne that he couldn't get a first down on third and 1? The Giants were so down on him they used Tiki on third and short.

Vinny
03-02-2005, 05:55 PM
If we sign him.. Who do you think we would let go? Id be pretty disappointed if we let Wells go.. honestly I think he is a great backup and deserves to stay. Hollings on the other hand I think is a bust and we would be making a mistake if we kept him over Wells.

Ah well.. who knows.. maybe with the zone blocking Dayne will turn into Portis.We have plenty of room to bring in as many backs as we like into camp. Personally, I think this is not a good sign for Wells. Hollings is the only speed option in our backfield if we sign Dayne (oh lord take me now), so I feel Hollings is safe.

SESupergenius
03-02-2005, 05:57 PM
This is just a Capers type of player. Doesn't fumble, he's had like 4 fumbles in his career. I think it's a welcome addition to the team because he should have some tread left in him. Of course I made that great dissertation about Mack too.

Grid
03-02-2005, 05:58 PM
hasnt Dayne had injury problems?

great.. we will be using JJ Moses as our RB by week 6.

Vinny
03-02-2005, 05:59 PM
RUSHING
Year Team G GS Att Yards Avg Lg TD 20+ FD
2000 New York Giants 16 4 228 770 3.4 50 5 2 47
2001 New York Giants 16 7 180 690 3.8 61 7 4 38
2002 New York Giants 16 1 125 428 3.4 30 3 1 26
2003 New York Giants 0 0 0 0 --- 0 0 0 0
2004 New York Giants 14 2 52 179 3.4 15 1 0 10
TOTAL 62 14 585 2067 3.5 61 16 7 121

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/187386

Blake
03-02-2005, 06:08 PM
I dont understand this. I think Wells is basically the same type of back. I actually liked Wells last year, and the only reason I can see this happening is Wells wanting to much money.

ThaShark316
03-02-2005, 06:10 PM
This is what happens when ppl want RBs badly...u get terrible ones.

Anthony Thomas is a better option..or draft Shelton or Harris...but NO, we get prolly the worst heisman winner EVER. :thumbdown

Grid
03-02-2005, 06:10 PM
if Wells wants more money than Dayne is asking for.. there is something wrong with that boy.. or his agent.

I dont see the logic in this move either personally.... I have been against grabbing a #2 receiver in FA.. but id prefer we blew our cap on a #2 over Ron Dayne. but whatever.. ill just have to give Casserly the benefit of the doubt..... again.

TheOgre
03-02-2005, 06:17 PM
During last preseason, ESPN had a segment on Dayne. They pointed out that despite his size, he hasn't done well in goalline/short situations. What they did note, however, is that he has a much, much higher percentage of big plays (15+ yards) per carry the more carries he has in a game. He gets in a grove, punishes the opponent, and seems to see the field better.

What I gathered from that is that he really needs to be a featured back or not play at all. That was the problem with him and Tiki sharing the backfield.

SESupergenius
03-02-2005, 06:29 PM
Random Quotes from the Giants Message boards

- Their goes that franchise. I thought Capers was smarter than that.

- good luck dayne hope your career finally gets off to a start

- They have better donuts in Houston & TEXAS size Buffets - Giants couldn't compete.

- EA IS DUM FO LETING DAINE GO

SESupergenius
03-02-2005, 06:30 PM
Just saw how the Raiders let Wheatley go, now THAT would have been the better move.

TEXANS84
03-02-2005, 06:37 PM
Just saw how the Raiders let Wheatley go, now THAT would have been the better move.

Wow, that about cements Lamont Jordan over there.

-- Jordan Flying to Oakland --
Wed Mar 2, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

ESPN's John Clayton reports the Oakland Raiders contacted free-agent RB LaMont Jordan (Jets) and convinced him to fly to Oakland to try to get him signed today. The Jets have a very strong offer on the table to keep him, but the Dolphins and Bucs are also in pursuit. The Raiders are currently $2.3 million under the cap, but they have to clear more space to fit in the Moss contract and even more to do Jordan. Among the guys who could get cut are DT John Parrella and OG Ron Stone.

BradK10
03-02-2005, 06:46 PM
I could not be more :| about an offseason move.

Really, what a waste of dollars. This team ceases to amaze me.

Corrosion
03-02-2005, 07:00 PM
. I'd go after him if not just as an upgrade to Wells alone.

I wouldnt say Dayne is an upgrade over Wells . At this point dayne has been a total bust from a draft prospective and i dont know for a fact he can replace Wells on special teams (which is an area Wells excell's at) . Wells plays on punt coverage , return and kick-off return and coverage teams .
Dayne may well be a better RB than Wells but is he a better teammate / overall player ?
Which of them is wanting more $$ ?

I expect Wells to be resigned at some point this off-season

AndreJ
03-02-2005, 07:08 PM
We haven't officially signed him yet have we?

SESupergenius
03-02-2005, 07:10 PM
That's a good point. We all know that Davis is the starter and that the backup RB should be a very good special teams. Did Dayne play any special teams last year? I would rather have Dayne than Wells in the backfield in case, no when, Davis goes down. Are we sure Dayne can't play special teams?

nunusguy
03-02-2005, 07:20 PM
Just saw how the Raiders let Wheatley go, now THAT would have been the better move.
You got that right, Wheatley is a stud. And that's been a big knock on Dayne, for such a big back he's really whimpy when it comes to running inside
tackle. Wells was running very hard last year and of course is also a very good ST player. And this draft is chock full of RBs. Maybe we get him dirt cheap - if this is for real, hopefully we get a definitive explanation.

ccdude730
03-02-2005, 07:37 PM
personally, id rather have wells than dayne. but if they do bring him in, i hope he does good and is able to fill the role that wells does on special teams.

...not sure if they arent feeling confident about one of our RBs. if they are i hope its hollings and not wells

TexanExile
03-02-2005, 08:05 PM
hasnt Dayne had injury problems?

great.. we will be using JJ Moses as our RB by week 6.

First time I've laughed out loud at a post around here in quite a while. Hilarious.

The current #3 back IS FINE. I'm not inclined to give up on Wells because I think he's just now hitting his stride here. This is not somewhere I expected Houston to be a FA player, and I really hope we save our cap space for positions more in need of upgrades.

THEFUTURE
03-02-2005, 08:21 PM
All three backs we already have are solid backs, Hollings still has some room for improvement, and wells put up good numbers last year... and i love DD, he is a 1600 yard rushing- 500+ receiving yard back... im totally satisfied with our backs

Texans Pride
03-02-2005, 08:33 PM
Have we signed this guy? I hear that it was a possibility, but nothing saying we have? Anyone have any concrete information on this?

rittenhouserobz
03-03-2005, 08:26 AM
I would like to have Wheatly over Wells. I am not sure about Dayne. I geuss we have to trust the Texans to make the right decision.

DChamp
03-03-2005, 11:56 AM
Hey guys I'm new here hope yall don't mind if I weight in.

I'm and LSU fan so DD is the reason I started watching Texans(if yall draft Spears I'll really be watching :) ) I also needed an AFC team to root for. I've been lurking here for awhile and had to read all the DD critics and I just have to speak up.

DD isn't your problem it's your O-line it stinks! Hell it's not just DD they are getting Carr killed as well. DD and Carr aren't your problems yall need to fix that awful O-line.

Besides being a LSU fan I'm also a Saints fan, I don't think anybody here would agrue that Deuce McAllister is a good back, well he gets injured too he's a running back it happens. Look at his numbers from last year they were down due to injury but most of us reconiginze the main problem is the Saints O-line stinks! I just don't see how yall don't recognize this very same problem with your team.

Without a good O-line of course DD isn't going to put up eye popping numbers . Give him a good O-line and let's see what he can do then. Even with the bad O-line look at DDs numbers comparied to the rest of the league spically the NFC they aren't bad numbers at all. He's also one of the best pass catching running backs in the leauge.


I Cedric Faison from Florida would be a good fit for the Texans if yall can pick him up in the 3rd or 4th like yall did with DD.


Peace out guys!

bckey
03-03-2005, 12:52 PM
DD
Hollings
Wells

Those will be our RBs. We wont be drafting any RB come draftday also..

Hollings has never proved anything for this team. The potential is there but no dice yet so I wouldn't be penciling him in the lineup yet.

But I sure don't think Ron Dayne is the answer.

Dionysus22
03-03-2005, 01:28 PM
Hollings has never proved anything for this team. The potential is there but no dice yet so I wouldn't be penciling him in the lineup yet.

But I sure don't think Ron Dayne is the answer.

I agree but I wouldn't cut him just yet. I'd give him one more season. No actually I'd give until week 3. That's how much Hollings is on the bubble. One more season like last one and he's on the next plane outta here.

I also agree on not signing Dayne. We already have a power back in Wells and DD is some what of a shifty-power back as well. Hollings is our only true burner, yet the kid won't stay out of the training room with his buddy...I think he has a 91 on his jersey...can't quite recall...haven't seen much on the field either!

edo783
03-03-2005, 03:09 PM
I think the Dayne thing was just a rumor. Casserly denied anything with it. Might have been that someone missunderstood that we were close to a deal with Payne and thought they said Dayne.

jagsfanincanada
03-03-2005, 03:23 PM
Dayne is trash, pure and simple. He absolutely sucks. If you guys sign him don't delude yourself into thinking he's good because he's a texan now. If the Jags signed him (for example) I'd puke if it was anything more than a minimum salary, training camp fodder contract.

TheOgre
03-03-2005, 03:30 PM
I think the Dayne thing was just a rumor. Casserly denied anything with it. Might have been that someone missunderstood that we were close to a deal with Payne and thought they said Dayne.

That is highly possible since Payne flew in from New York to sign the deal.