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arb729
01-04-2010, 11:26 PM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/rb.html & http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81561ba1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

A couple names that stand out to me :

LenDale White - perhaps the physical back that can carry the goal line load?

Fabian Washington - too expensive?

Antoine Bathea - I'm not really sure which safety position he plays, but I know that I've always been a fan of the way he plays

Logan Mankins - This kid is a great OG with a great work ethic and a lot of skill

Carr Bombed
01-04-2010, 11:31 PM
Pass on LenWhale White.... Foster is better and less of a headache.

Section516
01-04-2010, 11:40 PM
I'm more interested in the Olinemen. Lots of interior linemen..

mariowillshine15
01-04-2010, 11:47 PM
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2010/fa/rb.html & http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81561ba1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

A couple names that stand out to me :

LenDale White - perhaps the physical back that can carry the goal line load?

Fabian Washington - too expensive?

Antoine Bathea - I'm not really sure which safety position he plays, but I know that I've always been a fan of the way he plays

Logan Mankins - This kid is a great OG with a great work ethic and a lot of skill

Bethea is a really good safety wouldnt mind going after him.

Mankins is a pro bowler who i doubt New England lets get away.

Lendale White is a pro bowler at Mcdonalds. His fat ass i want no where near our team. Give Ron Dayne a ring if you want a fat back, much cheaper.

BSofA04
01-04-2010, 11:47 PM
Patriots are very high on Mankins and probably will give him enough $$ to stick around.

Pass on Lenwhale. Who knows if he'll keep his weight down.

Now if Jahri Evans (OG) of the Saints is willing to leave, I say throw some serious cash at him to come to Houston. That guy is a run-blocking SOB!

houstonspartan
01-05-2010, 12:32 AM
Lendale White is a pro bowler at Mcdonalds. His fat ass i want no where near our team. Give Ron Dayne a ring if you want a fat back, much cheaper.

LMAO!!!!!!

That Makins kid sounds great. We need O guards BAD. New England may try and keep him, but I don't see why we can't outbid them. We have the cash. That is, if he wants to leave that team.

houstonspartan
01-05-2010, 12:35 AM
Patriots are very high on Mankins and probably will give him enough $$ to stick around.

Now if Jahri Evans (OG) of the Saints is willing to leave, I say throw some serious cash at him to come to Houston. That guy is a run-blocking SOB!

The Pats are also known for having so much depth that they're willing to let good players walk if the $$$ is more than they want to pay. We can afford Mankins.

I forgot about that Evans guy. Yeah, I think I remember glancing at him during a game earlier this year. Seems like the real deal.

Goatcheese
01-05-2010, 04:11 AM
Pretty much every player you might want is going to be stuck as a RFA this year.

Vince Wilfork is pretty much the only big target I can think of who could hit the open market.

Hooston Texan
01-05-2010, 09:39 AM
These are the free agents I hope the Texans target:

DeMeco Ryans
Owen Daniels
Bernard Pollard
Kevin Walter
Chester Pitts
And, if his head is no longer in the clouds, Dunta Robinson

After that, it's just gravy.

BigBull17
01-05-2010, 09:52 AM
Pretty much every player you might want is going to be stuck as a RFA this year.

Vince Wilfork is pretty much the only big target I can think of who could hit the open market.

And he would be nice. We need a fat **** to help clog thee middle of the field, though our run D has looked good the last half of the year.

El Tejano
01-05-2010, 10:11 AM
I think if the Texans were to sign a FA WR, now would be the time to do it. Malcolm Floyd, Steve Breaston are two I can see making good here.

While on the subject of receivers Jabar Gaffney has done a good job with other teams.

GuerillaBlack
01-05-2010, 10:14 AM
These are the free agents I hope the Texans target:

DeMeco Ryans
Owen Daniels
Bernard Pollard
Kevin Walter
Chester Pitts
And, if his head is no longer in the clouds, Dunta Robinson

After that, it's just gravy.

Agree on all except Walter. I think we should look at other FA WRs this offseason. I would have said Marshall, but his attitude is horrible. Maybe TO (he behaved this year in Buffalo), but you never know how he will act. How about Braylon? Maybe Miles Austin? :shades:

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 10:18 AM
Agree on all except Walter. I think we should look at other FA WRs this offseason. I would have said Marshall, but his attitude is horrible. Maybe TO (he behaved this year in Buffalo), but you never know how he will act. How about Braylon? Maybe Miles Austin? :shades:

I dont see the boys not resigning miles. TO and Marshall would be a huge distraction on this team because they would not be the number 1 receiver and would not get most of the targets

Mari-OWNED!
01-05-2010, 10:21 AM
$10 says we go after FS Jarrad Page from Kansas City.

He's worked with David Gibbs in the past, and before he went on IR this season, he's been pretty impressive in his first couple seasons.

Texans could probably get him on the cheap as well.

GuerillaBlack
01-05-2010, 10:25 AM
I dont see the boys not resigning miles. TO and Marshall would be a huge distraction on this team because they would not be the number 1 receiver and would not get most of the targets

I'm sure TO would understand that he has to be the number two. I mean, it's Andre Johnson...

Marshall has too big of an ego, I think.

Here is a list of FA wide receivers this year: http://www.kffl.com/static/nfl/features/freeagents/fa.php?option=WR&y=2010

El Tejano
01-05-2010, 10:47 AM
So nobody on here remembers how Lendale White was able to get these 10-20 yard runs on top of being able to get 1-3 hard yards. Nobody remembers how that fool would bust out the whop dance when he scored from 1 yard away. Or better yet, how about his ability to take it to the house on a 70 yard run.

Or everyone must've been real happy with our teams ability to run despite there being 8-9 in the box.

I know we need offensive lineman so I would go there first but Lendale is a good back. With guys like Slaton and Foster pushing him, he wouldn't be a distraction. Plus I see it as weakening your division rival.

BigBull17
01-05-2010, 10:49 AM
I dont see the boys not resigning miles. TO and Marshall would be a huge distraction on this team because they would not be the number 1 receiver and would not get most of the targets

I actuallyt think T.O would be good here, if only for short term. He wants the ball, yes, but he just wants to win. He would have a pretty good situation here. That being said, AJ and JJ are our starting WR's next year.

HuttoKarl
01-05-2010, 10:52 AM
Lendale White, unlike Chris Brown, can actually score on a goalline carry. He's shed poundage this past season but with the emergence of Chris Johnson just didn't get a ton of carries. He'd be a great value pickup and satisfy a tremendous need for our team. He hasn't gotten into any trouble in the NFL...hasn't been overly idiotic. I'd be more than happy to have him in a Texans uniform.

dsorc
01-05-2010, 11:16 AM
LMAO!!!!!!

That Makins kid sounds great. We need O guards BAD. New England may try and keep him, but I don't see why we can't outbid them. We have the cash. That is, if he wants to leave that team.

We may have the cash but how many pick would you be willing to give up for him. Thanks to the CBA situation Mankins will be a RFA and there is no way the Pats don't give him a high tender.

Porky
01-05-2010, 11:17 AM
I wouldn't touch Lenwhale with a 10ft salami. Hopefully, we hang on to all our guys. That is job #1.

At RB, I would make a run at Leon Washington or Jerious Norwood. Both are coming off injuries so you might be able to get a decent value. Washington also adds value as an excellent KR. Our return game was avg at best this year. Both to some extent are Slaton clones, but there is no guarantee that Slaton will return to his rookie success, and even if he does, if he gets injured again we have nobody with any explosiveness.

Malcom Floyd would be a good target at WR. He has the size that could make him a good RZ threat.

At TE, Ben Watson would be the ideal target imo. Scheffler is another good one and a possibility. We need some OD Insurance. We can't go into the season with Dressen as the top Back up imo.

At Oline, I think it's a pipe dream that we would be able to land Mankins or Evans as great as that would be. Daryn Colledge would be a good fit at guard in our system and could be had at the right price. I liked him very much coming out and he is still young. He isn't great, but isn't bad and again an ideal fit in this scheme. Chris Kuper might be had on the cheap as well and he also fits.

At K, I would love to get a hold of Jeff Reed. He is good. Gostkowski at NE may be too expensive imo. We can also bring in a couple of young bucks. They can be had late in the draft or as a UDFA. We can't go into 2010 without fierce competition with Kris Brown who looks to have lost it.

Mark Anderson intrigues me at DE. At DT, Wilfork will be too much. Casey Hampton probably the same. Those are the premier guys that stand out to me. The others are a dime a dozen. Pick one and plug him in as depth.

I doubt we do much to make a splash at LB, but I wouldn't mind a coverage guy with speed to add to our depth and ST. A Thomas Davis or Thomas Howard makes some sense if they decide to go that way.

In the back 4, this is the only area I spend some real dough on besides interior oline to try and land a top guy. Carlos Rogers is my top target at CB. Richard Marshall is a close second. Chances are neither happen. So, midrange guys at CB that might fit imo would be Stanford Routt, Fabian WAshington and Ellis Hobbs. And of those 3 would be an upgrade.

At safety, Nick Collins and Bethea are clearly 1a and 1b. Doubt they are available. Roman Harper or OJ Atogwe would be good targets. Any of those 4 likely start. Middling depth guys might be Daniel Bullocks, Tyvon Branch or Will Allen. Good depth. Nothing to write home about but clear upgrades over what we have as depth and can possibly push to start.

houstonspartan
01-05-2010, 11:24 AM
We may have the cash but how many pick would you be willing to give up for him. Thanks to the CBA situation Mankins will be a RFA and there is no way the Pats don't give him a high tender.

Good point. I wasn't thinking about the draft picks.

HOU-TEX
01-05-2010, 11:25 AM
I actuallyt think T.O would be good here, if only for short term. He wants the ball, yes, but he just wants to win. He would have a pretty good situation here. That being said, AJ and JJ are our starting WR's next year.

Bad take, man. The dude's darn near destroyed every team he's been to. I wouldn't just pass, I wouldn't even of given it a thought. Not that we would anyway.

El Tejano
01-05-2010, 11:44 AM
I wouldn't touch Lenwhale with a 10ft salami. Hopefully, we hang on to all our guys. That is job #1.

At RB, I would make a run at Leon Washington or Jerious Norwood. Both are coming off injuries so you might be able to get a decent value.

Lendale isn't injured. I really don't want to go into next season with an enhanced possibility that one or more of our backs will go down to injury. Then we are stuck in midseason with no backfield threat.

Malcom Floyd would be a good target at WR. He has the size that could make him a good RZ threat.

I agree with this.

At TE, Ben Watson would be the ideal target imo. Scheffler is another good one and a possibility. We need some OD Insurance. We can't go into the season with Dressen as the top Back up imo.

I agree but you gotta look at the job Dreesen did. It wasn't too bad for a reserve. I also think that Casey will develop this year. I believe that if they are going to go for a TE it will be a veteran run blocking TE.


At K, I would love to get a hold of Jeff Reed. He is good. Gostkowski at NE may be too expensive imo. We can also bring in a couple of young bucks. They can be had late in the draft or as a UDFA. We can't go into 2010 without fierce competition with Kris Brown who looks to have lost it.

This is actually a position I see us going for in the draft. The kicker from Nebraska is very good. He would be worth a late second day pick.

Mark Anderson intrigues me at DE. At DT, Wilfork will be too much. Casey Hampton probably the same. Those are the premier guys that stand out to me. The others are a dime a dozen. Pick one and plug him in as depth.

I believe if there is a place you can and should spend big money it is at the DT position unless you are getting a highly touted FS in FA. We have tried and tried to be dominate on the DLine for so many years. I believe we finally have our DEs in place but the DT position is still a question mark and if you want our defense to go from #15 to top 10 or 5, this position has to be addressed. Kubiak and Co. don't have time right now to develop yet another DT in the draft.

I doubt we do much to make a splash at LB, but I wouldn't mind a coverage guy with speed to add to our depth and ST. A Thomas Davis or Thomas Howard makes some sense if they decide to go that way.

In the back 4, this is the only area I spend some real dough on besides interior oline to try and land a top guy. Carlos Rogers is my top target at CB. Richard Marshall is a close second. Chances are neither happen. So, midrange guys at CB that might fit imo would be Stanford Routt, Fabian WAshington and Ellis Hobbs. And of those 3 would be an upgrade.

At safety, Nick Collins and Bethea are clearly 1a and 1b. Doubt they are available. Roman Harper or OJ Atogwe would be good targets. Any of those 4 likely start. Middling depth guys might be Daniel Bullocks, Tyvon Branch or Will Allen. Good depth. Nothing to write home about but clear upgrades over what we have as depth and can possibly push to start.


I agree with that.

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 11:58 AM
Lendale White, unlike Chris Brown, can actually score on a goalline carry. He's shed poundage this past season but with the emergence of Chris Johnson just didn't get a ton of carries. He'd be a great value pickup and satisfy a tremendous need for our team. He hasn't gotten into any trouble in the NFL...hasn't been overly idiotic. I'd be more than happy to have him in a Texans uniform.

He lost all the weight after giving up the patron

HuttoKarl
01-05-2010, 12:24 PM
He lost all the weight after giving up the patron

I can't say that's a bad thing.

michaelm
01-05-2010, 12:39 PM
I wouldn't touch Lenwhale with a 10ft salami. Hopefully, we hang on to all our guys. That is job #1.

At RB, I would make a run at Leon Washington or Jerious Norwood. Both are coming off injuries so you might be able to get a decent value. Washington also adds value as an excellent KR. Our return game was avg at best this year. Both to some extent are Slaton clones, but there is no guarantee that Slaton will return to his rookie success, and even if he does, if he gets injured again we have nobody with any explosiveness.



Seems to me that Leon Washington and Jerious Norwood are very similar to Slaton... too similar for my tastes. I'd rather add a bruiser, if one is available of course. Although I can't think of one off the top of my head.
As far as Scheffler, I don't see it. Her was recently demoted to Denver's scout team for "attitude issues". I don't see us bringing him in.

FirstTexansFan
01-05-2010, 12:50 PM
I composed a spreadsheet showing only UFA's available according to KFFL. Not sure it's the best source, or whether all the information is correct, but in the little cross checking I did, it did appear to be accurate. I've listed the UFA's only, as it's my understanding that your chances of picking up an RFA without giving up a bevy of draft choices is impossible, and I don't foresee this team giving up draft picks for an RFA. I organized them by position, and there are four sheets.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tG8FreSzFiwDNurTQubjkZg&output=html

Ole Miss Texan
01-05-2010, 12:50 PM
I'd like us to re-sign Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Bernard Pollard and Kevin Walter.

For new additions, I'd like to see a proven veteran at DT that is the undisputed starter and is going to PRODUCE. Vince Wilfork would be awesome. Also, I want us to get a starting-calibre OG... and still draft a top G early in the draft.

Addressing the OL and DL in the offseason with top notch guys would (a) improve this team the most and (b) really open up the draft to take the best players available and add some real playmakers/gamechangers.

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 12:52 PM
I can't say that's a bad thing.

wasnt saying it was a bad thing. Guy couldnt move at weight he was before

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 12:54 PM
Getting Vince would be huge because it would allow our draft to focus on the defensive secondary trying to get earl in the first round or possibly a corner and OL in the later getting the G outta idaho in possible the second. Robinson would also be a good value pick if we could get him in the second round

infantrycak
01-05-2010, 12:56 PM
I composed a spreadsheet showing only UFA's available according to KFFL.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tG8FreSzFiwDNurTQubjkZg&output=html

First two guys I checked were Jerome Harrison and Leon Washington. Both have only four seasons in the league so it looks they are using the old four year rule instead of the six year rule which will apply this off-season unless some negotiating miracle occurs.

ATRAIN
01-05-2010, 01:37 PM
i composed a spreadsheet showing only ufa's available according to kffl. Not sure it's the best source, or whether all the information is correct, but in the little cross checking i did, it did appear to be accurate. I've listed the ufa's only, as it's my understanding that your chances of picking up an rfa without giving up a bevy of draft choices is impossible, and i don't foresee this team giving up draft picks for an rfa. I organized them by position, and there are four sheets.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tg8freszfiwdnurtqubjkzg&output=html

sign ricky!!!!

ATRAIN
01-05-2010, 01:42 PM
I'd like us to re-sign Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Bernard Pollard and Kevin Walter.



This

Texan4Ever
01-05-2010, 01:42 PM
If we are to sign anyone from FA I want the following guys: Logan Mankins OG, Jason Snelling RB (RFA, but he's big and played well towards the end of the season), and Jay Feely Kicker.

dsorc
01-05-2010, 02:14 PM
I'd like us to re-sign Demeco Ryans, Owen Daniels, Bernard Pollard and Kevin Walter.


Kevin Walter is the only one of those that will be an UFA no matter what. If there is no CBA, the other three are RFA so there's a really high chance they will be Texans next year. I would still try to get them signed long term if possible but at the very least I expect all three to receive the largest tender possible.

dsorc
01-05-2010, 02:17 PM
I composed a spreadsheet showing only UFA's available according to KFFL. Not sure it's the best source, or whether all the information is correct, but in the little cross checking I did, it did appear to be accurate. I've listed the UFA's only, as it's my understanding that your chances of picking up an RFA without giving up a bevy of draft choices is impossible, and I don't foresee this team giving up draft picks for an RFA. I organized them by position, and there are four sheets.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tG8FreSzFiwDNurTQubjkZg&output=html

KFFL is usually very accurate but it assumes a capped year. You can use this (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d81561ba1&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true) to further eliminate restricted free agents. A great resource and thanks for the effort.

Jackie Chiles
01-05-2010, 02:20 PM
I composed a spreadsheet showing only UFA's available according to KFFL. Not sure it's the best source, or whether all the information is correct, but in the little cross checking I did, it did appear to be accurate. I've listed the UFA's only, as it's my understanding that your chances of picking up an RFA without giving up a bevy of draft choices is impossible, and I don't foresee this team giving up draft picks for an RFA. I organized them by position, and there are four sheets.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tG8FreSzFiwDNurTQubjkZg&output=html

Chris Myers and Kevin Walter were both RFA additions(technically Myers was traded for the RFA compensation). David Anderson got his current contract because Denver went after him during his RFA period. If you can find a late round guy that gets the minimum tender there is potential to get a nice return on a late draft pick assuming the team doesn't match your offer. I won't be surprised to see our FO go this route at all.

RagingBull
01-05-2010, 02:21 PM
Any chance we go after Sebastian Janokowski from the Raiders?

BigBull17
01-05-2010, 02:53 PM
Bad take, man. The dude's darn near destroyed every team he's been to. I wouldn't just pass, I wouldn't even of given it a thought. Not that we would anyway.

I know. Just sayin I don't think it would be the end of the world if we took a short term flier on him. We won't, so it's a moot point. As I said, AJ and JJ are the openning day starters.

GuerillaBlack
01-05-2010, 02:57 PM
I wouldn't mind a minimum role for TO either. He'd be a great #2. Only thing to worry about is his attitude. He was fine in Buffalo this year and their offense is terrible.

phantom17
01-05-2010, 07:24 PM
I'm more interested in the Olinemen. Lots of interior linemen..

YUP! This is what I was also thinking-good veteran OLinemen with alot of experience, not necessarily top 5! Also, I hope they would draft one in 3rd to 4th Rd to groom or start! Hopefully, pls no more TE, unless elite! I hope they get a good DT in FA. I'm kinda weary of drafting high for one!

mexican_texan
01-05-2010, 07:43 PM
TO will only play in Texas in an away game. No way I'd have him over Jacoby.

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 08:34 PM
YUP! This is what I was also thinking-good veteran OLinemen with alot of experience, not necessarily top 5! Also, I hope they would draft one in 3rd to 4th Rd to groom or start! Hopefully, pls no more TE, unless elite! I hope they get a good DT in FA. I'm kinda weary of drafting high for one!

We dont need anymore TE no matter how elite. OD is a top 3 TE and Casey and Dressen are nice backups. If we can get a good DT in FA we will be on the right track cause we can focus our draft on S CB OG C

mussop
01-05-2010, 08:46 PM
We dont need anymore TE no matter how elite. OD is a top 3 TE and Casey and Dressen are nice backups. If we can get a good DT in FA we will be on the right track cause we can focus our draft on S CB OG C

You left out RB.

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 08:50 PM
You left out RB.

i dont think we need a RB that badly. I am a huge fan of slaton and have been since his days at WVU. I still believe that he can return to his rookie form and wiht the addition of Foster and a good oline this could be a very potent running game. Teams are gonna have to focus on the pass and with a good oline and slaton to his rookie form could be quite a tandem

whiskeyrbl
01-05-2010, 09:00 PM
To completely make our defense better go after Richard Seymore (DT) Oakland and Julius Peppers (DE) Carolina. Both want out of their current situations. Nice little front 7
Williams, Seymore, Smith,Peppers
Diles, Ryans, Cushing

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 09:02 PM
To completely make our secondary better go after Richard Seymore (DT) Oakland and Julius Peppers (DE) Carolina. Both want out of their current situations. Nice little front 7
Williams, Seymore, Smith,Peppers
Diles, Ryans, Cushing
Would probably make our secondary better also.

that would be nice but i dont see that happening at all. I dont know if the team is ready to give up on okoye and getting both seymore and peppers would be very expensive

whiskeyrbl
01-05-2010, 09:04 PM
that would be nice but i dont see that happening at all. I dont know if the team is ready to give up on okoye and getting both seymore and peppers would be very expensive

You don't give up on Okoye you rotate him. And believe me Houston has the money to sign them two.

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 09:06 PM
You don't give up on Okoye you rotate him. And believe me Houston has the money to sign them two.

If thats possible i believe it would give us the best D-Line in the game with 3 quality DE's with Mario Peppers and Barwin, a DE/DT in Smith and 2 quality DT in Seymore and Okoye

GuerillaBlack
01-05-2010, 09:11 PM
You don't give up on Okoye you rotate him. And believe me Houston has the money to sign them two.

But with our other needs as well? We have to pay Meco, Pollard, and OD, also.

Ndevine7
01-05-2010, 09:14 PM
But with our other needs as well? We have to pay Meco, Pollard, and OD, also.

I think that all we need is one DT and okoye can learn from someone such as seymore or wilfolk. Smith Mario and Barwin could be a terrific group of DE's and we still would have enough money to give meco pollard and od their money

Texanballer
01-06-2010, 10:43 AM
Derrick Johnson LB from Kansas City? More linebacking Depth.

badboy
01-06-2010, 10:56 AM
First two guys I checked were Jerome Harrison and Leon Washington. Both have only four seasons in the league so it looks they are using the old four year rule instead of the six year rule which will apply this off-season unless some negotiating miracle occurs.Beat me to it. I think the rules under the "uncapped" year are not understood by most. ICak, what is your opinion on re-signing Chester Pitts? He will be 31 yoa next June and was never a super star but a solid LG. Will he want too much and do you think Smith will offer a deal? I have him gone but still curious as I've been a fan.

4Texans
01-06-2010, 12:37 PM
Any one hear Eric Winston on Tuesday? He was saying that he thinks teams should go after RFA's more than they do, since you've got an NFL proven player and not an unknown draft choice. Especially when you're talking about giving up 5-6-7 round draft picks. He made a pretty good point.

D-Frank
01-06-2010, 12:49 PM
like a few guys said, I agree with the T.O pick. He got along with the team and didnt mind playing with Lee Evans. He can still beat single coverage and thats all he would be asked to do here. He didnt call his QB out over there and still had almost 800 yards with them trashy qb's throwin to him.

Jackie Chiles
01-06-2010, 01:22 PM
Chris Kuper could be a guy we look at. Denver starting OG, hes a RFA and would probably cost us a 5th rounder if they don't match the contract offer. Pretty sure we have two 5th rounders, our own and the one we got from the Chargers for Travis Johnson. If we can get Dennison from Denver it would make this even more interesting. I'm sure Denver still values him but they don't really run their system anymore so they might let him go.

badboy
01-06-2010, 02:32 PM
Chris Kuper could be a guy we look at. Denver starting OG, hes a RFA and would probably cost us a 5th rounder if they don't match the contract offer. Pretty sure we have two 5th rounders, our own and the one we got from the Chargers for Travis Johnson. If we can get Dennison from Denver it would make this even more interesting. I'm sure Denver still values him but they don't really run their system anymore so they might let him go.I don't think TJ played well enough to have the pick bumped up from a 6th. What are your thoughts about Pitts coming back?

Jackie Chiles
01-06-2010, 02:46 PM
I don't think TJ played well enough to have the pick bumped up from a 6th. What are your thoughts about Pitts coming back?

Unfortunate about the draft pick if true but I'd still go after Kuper. I'd welcome a healthy Pitts back with open arms. Studdard got better as the year went on but if Pitts is recovered hes the starting LG. Is he supposed to fully recover?

Big Lou
01-06-2010, 11:20 PM
TO will only play in Texas in an away game. No way I'd have him over Jacoby.

I'm sure if we want a veteran with stone hands there will be others on the market besides TO......

When he was with Dallas he reminded me of that guy in that movie "The Replacements"!

Big Lou
01-06-2010, 11:27 PM
Chris Kuper could be a guy we look at. Denver starting OG, hes a RFA and would probably cost us a 5th rounder if they don't match the contract offer. Pretty sure we have two 5th rounders, our own and the one we got from the Chargers for Travis Johnson. If we can get Dennison from Denver it would make this even more interesting. I'm sure Denver still values him but they don't really run their system anymore so they might let him go.


I'm suprised Denver didn't have a fire sale with thier O-Line left over from the Shan Man. I thought for sure we would have traded some later drafts picks this last year for an OG or two. I don't know Denvers O-Line very well, but we could have dangled Anderson over them for thier Center if he was worth. Although I like Anderson and he's worth keeping around for TD Dances and entertainment purposes alone!!

Also anyone heard anything on Torain? Also I was kind of suprised we didn't look at Selvin Young late in the season after all of our backs started coating thier hands in Vasoline before each carry.

redwhiteANDblue
01-07-2010, 08:07 AM
I say we should pick up T.O. AJ and TO? Wow that would be something!:texflag:

GuerillaBlack
01-07-2010, 09:36 AM
I'm really not that opposed to signing TO for a one year contract. Especially if people are talking about cutting Andre Davis.

datchapin
01-07-2010, 02:51 PM
Pretty much every player you might want is going to be stuck as a RFA this year.

Vince Wilfork is pretty much the only big target I can think of who could hit the open market.

With it being an uncapped yr. I'm thinking alot of those RFA can still be put up on the move. There are still poison pills that can be slipped into contracts and with the bigger markets taking advantage of the uncapped yr. I think we could see alot of movement. With the draft being an unknown in the uncapped yr. the draft picks may loose or gain value.

I'm personnaly upset with Smith for not re-signing Demeco during the season. I don't dig the whole no negotiations during the season. It's like really Smith, why?

m5kwatts
01-07-2010, 03:07 PM
The chances of TO signing with the Texans is about as likely as all of us having 72 virgins waiting for us in heaven like the Arabs promised.

Goatcheese
01-07-2010, 03:09 PM
The chances of TO signing with the Texans is about as likely as all of us having 72 virgins waiting for us in heaven like the Arabs promised.

So you're saying we're going to sign him? :bubbles:

redwhiteANDblue
01-07-2010, 03:11 PM
The chances of TO signing with the Texans is about as likely as all of us having 72 virgins waiting for us in heaven like the Arabs promised.

Why wouldn't we sign him? I mean that would just bump our passing game to a whole new level.

m5kwatts
01-07-2010, 03:14 PM
Why wouldn't we sign him? I mean that would just bump our passing game to a whole new level.

I agree he's a super talent but his personality doesn't fit the profile of a Texans player. Way too "me first, team second."

El Tejano
01-07-2010, 03:15 PM
Why wouldn't we sign him? I mean that would just bump our passing game to a whole new level.

I agree. T.O. behaved himself this year too, even when things really sucked. When his face said he wanted to talk crap about how the team sucked, he held his own and proved to be a team player this year.

TexCanada
01-07-2010, 03:16 PM
Why wouldn't we sign him? I mean that would just bump our passing game to a whole new level.

TO is a cancer, what more do you need to know? His talent is not worth the headache.

redwhiteANDblue
01-07-2010, 03:54 PM
I agree he's a super talent but his personality doesn't fit the profile of a Texans player. Way too "me first, team second."

I'm sure Kubes can fix up his tantrums, after all he did fix up Jacoby into a fine receiver and looks to me like he's really matured after that Jax game he had to sit out of. Plus 2 deep threats like AJ and TO could really keep the defense on their toes. They would HAVE to double cover both of them and if they dont, CHUNK that ball:throwball:! And If OD is healthy he would have an amazing year because he would most likely be open. It probably wont happen since our passing game is the least of our worries but it's just a thought.

m5kwatts
01-07-2010, 04:08 PM
I'm sure Kubes can fix up his tantrums, after all he did fix up Jacoby into a fine receiver and looks to me like he's really matured after that Jax game he had to sit out of. Plus 2 deep threats like AJ and TO could really keep the defense on their toes. They would HAVE to double cover both of them and if they dont, CHUNK that ball:throwball:! And If OD is healthy he would have an amazing year because he would most likely be open. It probably wont happen since our passing game is the least of our worries but it's just a thought.

It'd work in Madden lol

Seriously though I see your Jacoby point. He needed some serious re-focusing on team goals after being late to a meeting and it looks like what Kubiak did worked. I'm not saying TO couldn't come here and catch the "team-first" flu, I just don't think the Texans will think its worth the risk. And I can't say I'd blame them for thinking that.

maddogmrb
01-08-2010, 09:43 AM
I have not been a Rick Smith fan but, I have to admit that finally a couple of his "low key" FA acquisitions have worked out. I believe that if you bring in enough mediocre talent that other teams don't want, then you will eventually find a gem or 2 ..... as in Pollard.

However, those of you who think we will go after high profile FA's who are still at the top of their game are smoking the wacky stuff. They have never done so and I don't see that changing.

HOU-TEX
01-08-2010, 09:55 AM
TO is a cancer, what more do you need to know? His talent is not worth the headache.

Agreed! He's a "team" killer! Screw TO

Imatexanfan
01-10-2010, 08:58 AM
So you think DRob has an attitude that ain't **** compared to TO:shades:

thunderkyss
01-10-2010, 10:02 AM
I'm sure Kubes can fix up his tantrums, after all he did fix up Jacoby into a fine receiver and looks to me like he's really matured after that Jax game he had to sit out of. Plus 2 deep threats like AJ and TO could really keep the defense on their toes.

If Jacoby Jones has been "fixed" we don't need T.O. Andre & Jacoby are younger faster T.O.s, Andre is just as "savy" & Jacoby is still "raw", If Jacoby has earned the #2 spot (which I think he should), or we play a lot more 3 & 4 WR sets, we're set at WR... at least good enough, that we can spend out time acquiring young guys with potential.

Even if we are making a Super Bowl Push, WR is not a position we need to go for broke on.

dalemurphy
01-10-2010, 10:07 AM
Why wouldn't we sign him? I mean that would just bump our passing game to a whole new level.

He drops passes, demands the ball, runs poor routes, and will be 37 years old. Your 3rd place trophy in your fantasy football league hasn't prepared you to run a football team.