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nunusguy
02-28-2005, 09:02 AM
With this signing, 1 thing is readily apparent: much less likely we draft a CB
with top pick.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3060256

Paragon Blue
02-28-2005, 10:01 AM
I think this was a move that we had to make. Faggins did a great job for us last year. :jumpbanan

rittenhouserobz
02-28-2005, 10:53 AM
That is some really good news. I hope we resign Mcree. We need the depth at FS. When I read the Texans article that was posted it made me think we will be working more diligently to develop our younger players. I hope that approach works for Glenn Earl. We need a SS that can hit and cover. Once again I think Faggins will be more dedicated now that he has a contract.

edo783
02-28-2005, 10:54 AM
With this signing, 1 thing is readily apparent: much less likely we draft a CB
with top pick.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3060256

Sorry, I don't see it that way. Faggins is a good signing and a VERY good nickle back, but IMO he isn't really a starting level NFL CB. Can he do in a pinch...sure, but eventually he would be a liablity. I still think there is a fairly high probability that we take one of the top CB's with the 13 pick. Glenn's age is the issue and where we would be picking at after this year. Most top level CB's are taken in the 1st round and usually pretty early. If we have a season like I think most of us are expecting, we will not be drafting this high for sometime to come and need to grab a top relacement for Glenn now. Is DL/OL a more immediate need, probably, but good guys will be there in the second and third rounds. Could we find a starting CB in those round....sure, but it is a lot less likely than finding a lineman.

F-minus67
02-28-2005, 11:18 AM
Where you are draft doesn't mean well play at that level, a perfect example is the Patriots they won the super bowl with a 2nd and 3rd round draft picks as their starting CBs. And with the rules being enforced for contact after five yards a passrush is more important to keep the pressure off the CBs.

Vinny
02-28-2005, 11:31 AM
With this signing, 1 thing is readily apparent: much less likely we draft a CB
with top pick.Most NFL teams like to go into the draft with no real holes in the roster so that they do not find themselves reaching for 'need' over talent. I don't think this has anything to do with finding Glenn's eventual replacement. Faggins is a nice talent we found in the later rounds but this just falls in line with our team's overall philopophy of drafting and developing our own players instead of a steady habit of paying over-inflated market prices for somebody else's picks. He is the kind of guy you need as a quality reserve and a pinch starter but you don't avoid a highly rated corner at the 13th pick just because you have Demarcus Faggins on the roster.

wiley2002
02-28-2005, 11:35 AM
I'm glad Faggins is back. He will be great in the nickle position. As far as Glenn's replacement, I'm going to go with CC on this. He's the draft guru. Make the Texans proud sir!

keyfro
02-28-2005, 12:16 PM
resigning faggins and ioune were smart moves...dispite what you think of either one of them...they are young, up and coming players who may not be starters but fit well in our rotation type defense...faggins imo is a lot better than what some teams have starting at cornerback i.e. dallas and arizona

Gilly
02-28-2005, 12:23 PM
I like the move alot. He plays hard and steps up when he is needed. plus I feel he could be the long term replacement for Glenn.

nunusguy
02-28-2005, 12:53 PM
Most NFL teams like to go into the draft with no real holes in the roster so that they do not find themselves reaching for 'need' over talent.
I would never dis the concept of drafting the BPA and realize it is the wise way to go for a long-term philosophy to build and improve talent on your team.So let me put it this way by way of a hypothetical, if the BPAs @ 13 are a CB & DL, for us the DL is "first among equals" because of the Faggins signing and we have a > need for DLineman.

Vinny
02-28-2005, 01:01 PM
I agree except for the notion that Faggins is a starter quality player. If you are picking at 13 you are not looking to replace a guy like Faggins who is the 3rd CB on the team. You are projecting someone to play CB1 or CB2 at 13. If all is equal it is silly not to pick a player at a need spot, so I am not debating that.

SESupergenius
02-28-2005, 01:24 PM
I like the draft philosophy of picking the Best player available only in the 1st round. After that then you go after depth and needs. I'm glad we stuck with Faggins, he had some excellent coverage on many plays last year.

texasguy346
02-28-2005, 02:35 PM
Jerry Deloach DL
Moran Norris FB
Seth Payne NT
Dashon Polk LB

These are the guys that I really want to see back next year. Keep in mind we already re-signed Ioane, and now Faggins.

Beastlyman2003
02-28-2005, 03:45 PM
Why would you say that Faggins isnt our long term answer? He had more ints than Aaron Glenn had last year, AND one for a TD. He didnt give up very many big plays at all and he has exceptional speed and coverage ability. I see no reason why he couldnt be the long term answer.

TEXANS84
02-28-2005, 03:50 PM
Why would you say that Faggins isnt our long term answer? He had more ints than Aaron Glenn had last year

From the Chronicle:


He had a career-high 37 tackles and tied for third on the team behind Robinson (six) and Aaron Glenn (five) with three interceptions, including a 43-yarder he returned for a touchdown against Jacksonville.

By the way Faggins has progressed year to year...I could see him as a starting cornerback. But for now, he's a very solid #3 cornerback.
Excellent move by the Texans.

scourge
02-28-2005, 03:54 PM
He didnt have more INTs than Glenn... you are mistaken.

WildBlackBear32
02-28-2005, 03:56 PM
By the way Faggins has progressed year to year...I could see him as a starting cornerback. But for now, he's a very solid #3 cornerback.
Excellent move by the Texans.

Exactly how I see him. I see him being a #2 at his peak, but he's a fine player as a nickle.

keyfro
02-28-2005, 05:43 PM
on a similar note...houstonprofootball.com is announcing that d. polk was resigned today to a 1 year vet. minimum contract

Wolf
02-28-2005, 08:27 PM
With this signing, 1 thing is readily apparent: much less likely we draft a CB
with top pick.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/sports/3060256

may be right with the top pick, maybe we go with 2nd pick on CB being glenn has 2 years left (I think) maybe Webster with 2nd round so he can develop and learn from Glenn and then take Daunte's spot.(being Daunte will be taking over Glenn as #1)

bckey
02-28-2005, 08:56 PM
Great news! Faggins is a great nb and backup cb. He might crack the #2 cb spot someday.

texasguy346
02-28-2005, 09:04 PM
on a similar note...houstonprofootball.com is announcing that d. polk was resigned today to a 1 year vet. minimum contract

Great news. That's another player off my list.

That just leaves ...

Jerry Deloach DL
Moran Norris FB
Seth Payne NT

... on my list

Wolf
02-28-2005, 10:43 PM
Great news. That's another player off my list.

That just leaves ...

Jerry Deloach DL
Moran Norris FB
Seth Payne NT

... on my list

good news. I'd like for sure to get Norris back.. and if the price is right Payne.

infantrycak
02-28-2005, 11:17 PM
Great news! Faggins is a great nb and backup cb. He might crack the #2 cb spot someday.

Just an FYI--in the nickle package, Dunta plays nickle and Faggins plays RCB.

AndreJ
02-28-2005, 11:21 PM
Just an FYI--in the nickle package, Dunta plays nickle and Faggins plays RCB.

Thats not a 100% of the time though is it? I thought it was only in certain situations or... you know... when Dom throws one his zone blitzes as the offense.

infantrycak
02-28-2005, 11:42 PM
Thats not a 100% of the time though is it? I thought it was only in certain situations or... you know... when Dom throws one his zone blitzes as the offense.

I certainly wouldn't swear to 100% of the time, but that is the default substitution that is generally used.

Grid
03-01-2005, 12:06 AM
Honestly I think Faggins could be a starter eventually. Maybe not this year.. maybe not next year.. maybe not for 3 or 4 years.. but he seems to have good instincts. The only place he is lacking is in the physical gifts department, but that can be made up for with good instincts and a strong understanding of his position and how to play it.

I like him.. I want to see him stay as a Texan for his career.

Negative Jesus
03-01-2005, 03:53 PM
Good job on the Texans part. Faggins is in line to take over for Aaron Glenn and should make for a great duo with Dunta. In the meantime, they keep one of the best nickelbacks in the league. :thumbup

TEXANS84
03-01-2005, 08:44 PM
The money part is out...he landed a good contract:

Texans | Faggins Re-signed - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:01:34 -0800

Associated Press reports the Houston Texans have re-signed CB DeMarcus Faggins to a four-year deal worth about $6 million, which includes a $500,000 signing bonus.

TexanExile
03-01-2005, 08:56 PM
Good for Faggins, and good for Houston. It was fun to see a guy get a shot and make the most of it, and he got paid for a solid contribution.

Now, as for the REST of the free agents, glad to see Ioane back on board for minimal money, but I pray we don't reach to sign Payne. As has been said elsewhere, Houston can't afford to sign two Gary Walkers at the same time--both are damaged, aging linemen with big cap numbers. I say that even as a Payne fan...you can't question his heart or character, but you definitely can question paying him huge dollars when he was so hobbled last year.

DoCt3rJ
03-01-2005, 10:25 PM
We'll see how Faggins does, he does not have good speed. He ran above 4.5 at the combine or w/e. His tackling is questionable, but he seems to play smart, and that counts more than anything.

Vinny
03-01-2005, 10:54 PM
Faggins ran a 4.54 40-yard dash at 178 pounds at the combine and he already has demonstrated solid cornerback play (why he got such a good contract for a 6th round pick). His quickness is what was most impressive. best combine stats per PFW (http://archive.profootballweekly.com/content/archives2001/draft_2001/combine_analysis_032802.asp)
Kansas’ Demarcus Faggins ran the 20-yard pro shuttle in 3.92 seconds and the three-cone drill in 6.64 seconds, demonstrating excellent change of direction

Ranger
03-01-2005, 11:32 PM
I'm really happy to see this guy coming back. He really became one of my favorties as the season progressed. I agree that he could one day take over for Glenn. He has showed tones of improvment and will only continue to get better.

As for the nickel, I know he played RCB for Duante at the beginning of the season when Duante was taking baby-steps but as time progressed and Duante proved his worth I think Faggins when back to playing nickel. I know when Capers sent D-Rob on a blitz he was lined up at nickel.

Vinny
03-01-2005, 11:44 PM
Dunta played the nickel the entire year for the most part, just like Coleman played it the year before. Capers likes to have a more physical corner at nickel so that they can be used to blitz more often.