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texasguy346
04-20-2010, 10:21 PM
Bring 'em on!

signed

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/usc/blog/1209cushing.jpg

Not to veer off topic but Cushing is supposed to be a guest on the Dan Patrick show tomorrow. I imagine they'll be talking about the draft, but I'm sure some questions about the Texans schedule might come up as well.

gwallaia
04-20-2010, 10:22 PM
Your a good sport kid. Keep working on that grammer.

Rep.

Oh Jeez. :backsout:

Kaiser Toro
04-20-2010, 10:24 PM
Howard Dean's reaction to the Texans schedule:

I'm sure there are some disappointed people here. You know what? You know something? You know something? If you had told us one year ago that we were going to come in second in the South, we would have given anything for that.

And you know something? You know something?

Not only are we going to Arizona ... we're going to New Orleans and Washington and Oakland and Texas and Indianapolis, and we're going to Jacksonville and New York and Philadelphia. And we're going back to Texas and Tennessee and Denver and Michigan and Houston. And then we're going to Springfield, Illinois to take back Santa Anna's prosthetic leg. Yeah!

http://www.freewebs.com/charlottecountyyoungrepublicans/dean_kitten.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/20/elec04.prez.dean.tran/index.html

Texan_Bill
04-20-2010, 10:25 PM
Oh Jeez. :backsout:

Greg, let us know whenever the UH schedule comes out. We need to coordinate some UH games v. Texans games...

Wolf
04-20-2010, 10:26 PM
Howard Dean's reaction to the Texans schedule:



http://www.freewebs.com/charlottecountyyoungrepublicans/dean_kitten.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/20/elec04.prez.dean.tran/index.html

:spit:

http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/3/j/dean_scream_pic.jpg

gwallaia
04-20-2010, 10:27 PM
Greg, let us know whenever the UH schedule comes out. We need to coordinate some UH games v. Texans games...

Dude, I'm all over it.


COUGARS
09/04/10 vs. Texas State
09/10/10 vs. UTEP
09/18/10 at UCLA
09/25/10 vs. Tulane
10/09/10 vs. Mississippi State
10/16/10 at Rice
10/23/10 at SMU
10/30/10 at Memphis
11/05/10 vs. UCF
11/13/10 vs. Tulsa
11/20/10 at Southern Miss
11/27/10 at Texas Tech



TEXANS
9/12 – Indy @ Home
9/19 – @ Washington
9/26 – Dallas @ Home
10/3 - @ Oakland
10/10 – NY Giants @ Home
10/17 – Chiefs @ Home
10/24 – Bye
11/1 - @ Indy MNF
11/7 – San Diego @ Home
11/14 - @ Jax
11/21 - @ jets
11/28 – Tennessee @ home
12/2 - @ Philly – Thursday nite
12/13 – Baltimore @ Home MNF
12/19 – @ Tennessee
12/26 - @ Denver
1 / 2 – Jaxsonville @ Home

Joe Texan
04-20-2010, 10:29 PM
For all you haters that think we will not win at least 3 of our first five come see me after the fifth game. We are looking at a 11 and 5 season division winners with home feild through the playoffs. All who disagree get behind me and stay out of my way.

texansdrummer
04-20-2010, 10:32 PM
Joe.....I expect to see you in Oakland.

brakos82
04-20-2010, 10:35 PM
For all you haters that think we will not win at least 3 of our first five come see me after the fifth game. We are looking at a 11 and 5 season division winners with home feild through the playoffs. All who disagree get behind me and stay out of my way.

We're not getting HFA with 11 wins. And if we do I'll make SWT eat his hat. :uchicken:

El Tejano
04-20-2010, 10:36 PM
Well, I believe. I believe this is exactly what our team needs to start the season - the same kind of challenge it was to finish our last 3 seasons, backs to the wall already.

TexCanada
04-20-2010, 10:38 PM
Well, I believe. I believe this is exactly what our team needs to start the season - the same kind of challenge it was to finish our last 3 seasons, backs to the wall already.

Exactly. Playoffs start from game one this year and the team knows it.

gtexan02
04-20-2010, 10:45 PM
Looks like we're in for a tough season:

Home: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Dallas, NY Giants, San Diego, Oakland, Baltimore.

Away: Indianapolis, Jacksonville, Tennessee, Philadelphia, Washington, Denver, Kansas City, NY Jets.

Yikes, 7 of our 16 games are against 2009 playoff teams.

No gimmes on this schedule...

Can the mods edit the first post?


Indianapolis
@Washington
Dallas
@Oakland
New York Giants
KC Chiefs
Bye
@Indianapolis
San Diego
@Jacksonville
@New York Jets
Tennessee
@Philadelphia
Baltimore
@Tennessee
@Denver
Jacksonville

El Tejano
04-20-2010, 10:46 PM
Exactly. Playoffs start from game one this year and the team knows it.

I'm ready to tackle a Cowboys fan already.

Hardcore Texan
04-20-2010, 10:47 PM
Where can we get a nice downloadable version of the schedule? Something I can make my background or print out and tack up.

NitroGSXR
04-20-2010, 10:51 PM
BTW, did you forget about Johnsonfan? Lulz

I don't think Johnsonfan's grammar was as bad as his cockroach thread. In fact, it's all I remember about him.

:lol:

Corrosion
04-20-2010, 10:54 PM
I'm ready to tackle a Cowboys fan already.

Im ready to kick the shit out of a Dolts fan , A Titanics fan and a Shitpie fan ..... :cutthroat:



As for the schedule , who cares who's on it ..... You can only play who they put in front of you. Just find a way to win.

TexCanada
04-20-2010, 10:57 PM
I'm just trying to calm myself so I don't get in trouble for knocking the piss out of a random again.

Texan_Bill
04-20-2010, 10:58 PM
Dude, I'm all over it.


COUGARS
09/04/10 vs. Texas State
09/10/10 vs. UTEP
09/18/10 at UCLA
09/25/10 vs. Tulane
10/09/10 vs. Mississippi State
10/16/10 at Rice
10/23/10 at SMU
10/30/10 at Memphis
11/05/10 vs. UCF
11/13/10 vs. Tulsa
11/20/10 at Southern Miss
11/27/10 at Texas Tech



TEXANS
9/12 Indy @ Home
9/19 @ Washington
9/26 Dallas @ Home
10/3 - @ Oakland
10/10 NY Giants @ Home
10/17 Chiefs @ Home
10/24 Bye
11/1 - @ Indy MNF
11/7 San Diego @ Home
11/14 - @ Jax
11/21 - @ jets
11/28 Tennessee @ home
12/2 - @ Philly Thursday nite
12/13 Baltimore @ Home MNF
12/19 @ Tennessee
12/26 - @ Denver
1 / 2 Jaxsonville @ Home

Let's coordinate the games this year.. That said, I can't do a Saturday night game with a Texans Sunday game. I'm too freakin' old. :)

TexanSam
04-20-2010, 11:01 PM
I don't think Johnsonfan's grammar was as bad as his cockroach thread. In fact, it's all I remember about him.

:lol:

COCKROACH!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40890&highlight=COCKROACH

If there were a TexansTalk hall of fame, that thread would be in it

gwallaia
04-20-2010, 11:06 PM
Let's coordinate the games this year.. That said, I can't do a Saturday night game with a Texans Sunday game. I'm too freakin' old. :)

You have got to be kidding me!

There are many times, I go to a UH game on Saturday night, drive back home to Beaumont and then get up Sunday morning to go the Texans game.

When my nephew was going to UH, I would just crash at his place and then go to the Texan game.

With that said, what UH games do you want to go to?

TexanSam
04-20-2010, 11:09 PM
John Clayton named the Colts/Texans game as the 2nd best MNF matchup this season

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5120114

brakos82
04-20-2010, 11:33 PM
Where can we get a nice downloadable version of the schedule? Something I can make my background or print out and tack up.

I can work on one tonight.

barrett
04-20-2010, 11:36 PM
John Clayton named the Colts/Texans game as the 2nd best MNF matchup this season

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=5120114

I'm going to have to disagree with that little elfin creature. I think that game is the best MNF game I'll see this season.

Speedy
04-20-2010, 11:38 PM
Mmm, four late season games which could be impacted by cold weather, interesting.

The Texans have never lost a game when the temperature is below 40. Something like 6-0 IIRC. 2-0 when the temperature is below 10.

Bull Pen 1
04-20-2010, 11:49 PM
I won't hold my breath on that being the real schedule. Why Baltimore would be a MNF game over one of our division rivals doesn't seem right to me.

This should be a win for the Texans. The Texans are 2-0 on my birthday and this game is played on my Birthday. Dec 13th

Texan4Ever
04-20-2010, 11:51 PM
Have the Texans won their first game since the inagural season? Seems like it's been a while.

brakos82
04-21-2010, 12:12 AM
have the texans won their first game since the inagural season? Seems like it's been a while.

02, 03 (mia), 07 (kc).

pbat488
04-21-2010, 01:22 AM
Weeks 11-16 will be tough..

I'm just glad we're not playing on Thanksgiving, as there's a more important game that night...

http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb23/brakos82/breesus.gif

Actually, was referencing the A&M/UT game, but I will definitely be watching that game as well :kitten:

AnthonyE
04-21-2010, 01:34 AM
COCKROACH!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40890&highlight=COCKROACH

If there were a TexansTalk hall of fame, that thread would be in it

LOL, wow. I've never read this thread before. This is some classic stuff!

Oh wow, this thread was made the same month I created my account. :o

imatexan
04-21-2010, 07:09 AM
Joe.....I expect to see you in Oakland.

I might be going now that I live in LA!

BIG TORO
04-21-2010, 08:04 AM
I think if we can win game one we are gonna be one kick ass team!

Second Honeymoon
04-21-2010, 10:08 AM
brutal brutal schedule

i think its all going to boil down to Week 1. if we can win that game, we have a chance to have a good season but if we start off with a loss, the schedule isn't as forgiving as last year and its gonna be a tough road to ho.

lots of good coaches on that schedule, too. i hope we don't get consistently outcoached like last year. kubiak has to take the next step and prove that he won't get outcoached by rookie head coaches like last year (caldwell, ryan, etc.)

spurstexanstros
04-21-2010, 10:16 AM
Toughest schedule in the NFL.....doh three primetime games sweet.

10-6 until proven otherwise. ( Can we actually do it cause I am tired of saying it)

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 10:38 AM
brutal brutal schedule

i think its all going to boil down to Week 1. if we can win that game, we have a chance to have a good season but if we start off with a loss, the schedule isn't as forgiving as last year and its gonna be a tough road to ho.

lots of good coaches on that schedule, too. i hope we don't get consistently outcoached like last year. kubiak has to take the next step and prove that he won't get outcoached by rookie head coaches like last year (caldwell, ryan, etc.)

I kinda think Jim Caldwell has a latchkey player on his team. He didn't really outcoach us but your point is taken. I predicted a 1-15 season myself. This isn't going to be a fun year for us.

Eff it. Go Texans.

:fans:

Drew_Smoke
04-21-2010, 10:47 AM
10-6 with some breaks...could be 8-8...I will again pick 9-7 for the 3rd year in a row.

TexCanada
04-21-2010, 10:48 AM
brutal brutal schedule

i think its all going to boil down to Week 1. if we can win that game, we have a chance to have a good season but if we start off with a loss, the schedule isn't as forgiving as last year and its gonna be a tough road to ho.

lots of good coaches on that schedule, too. i hope we don't get consistently outcoached like last year. kubiak has to take the next step and prove that he won't get outcoached by rookie head coaches like last year (caldwell, ryan, etc.)

I hope that Kubiak has learned from last years mistakes when he tried to out-couch the other sideline. He doesn't need to be better than the other coach, he just needs to not be worse by making dumb mistakes.

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 10:55 AM
I hope that Kubiak has learned from last years mistakes when he tried to out-couch the other sideline. He doesn't need to be better than the other coach, he just needs to not be worse by making dumb mistakes.

He has constistently been outcoached ever since he arrived here back in 2006. I expect more of the same in 2010. At least his guys play for him so he's got that going for him. I kinda think he acts like a coordinator. He lacks the killer instinct necessary to take your team to the next level.

I'm not really a Kubiak basher. I'm actually ok with him as our coach. Not like I have much choice in the matter anyway.

:fans:

TexCanada
04-21-2010, 11:04 AM
He has constistently been outcoached ever since he arrived here back in 2006. I expect more of the same in 2010. At least his guys play for him so he's got that going for him. I kinda think he acts like a coordinator. He lacks the killer instinct necessary to take your team to the next level.

I'm not really a Kubiak basher. I'm actually ok with him as our coach. Not like I have much choice in the matter anyway.

:fans:

I think he will be fine if he just cuts out a couple of stupid mistakes like the HB pass and such. Like you said, he gets his players to play for him, so if he can just get his best players on the field (which is another problem he had at times) and put the ball in their hands then I think he will do ok. He just needs to realize that he has a lot of talent to work with and he doesn't need to out-smart people to win.

In previous years it probably has been necessary for us to try to gain the upper hand by taking some of these risks, but these last wo years are probably the first time that we could win by simply having the better players, its a strange feeling.

TEXANS84
04-21-2010, 11:13 AM
7-9.
I just can't see us improving with that schedule. The NFC west was a gift to us last year, along with the AFC east. We went 6-2 in those divisional games.

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 11:21 AM
I think he will be fine if he just cuts out a couple of stupid mistakes like the HB pass and such. Like you said, he gets his players to play for him, so if he can just get his best players on the field (which is another problem he had at times) and put the ball in their hands then I think he will do ok. He just needs to realize that he has a lot of talent to work with and he doesn't need to out-smart people to win.

In previous years it probably has been necessary for us to try to gain the upper hand by taking some of these risks, but these last wo years are probably the first time that we could win by simply having the better players, its a strange feeling.

If the halfback pass was successful, many would be lauding him as a great ballsy coach. Like New Orleans' got Sean Payton up on a grand pedestal for his SB onside kick.

Kubiak has done far more boneheaded thing than that failed halfback pass. An odd play does not define a coach. He consistently mishandles the red flag in his back pocket. His clock management is poor. His gametime "alertness" is atrocious. Year in year out.

No More 8-8's
04-21-2010, 11:38 AM
You know, we actually have a good possibility of starting off very strong this year. The Texans MO has always been getting out the gate too slow, and cant win in our division.

We have consisitently done well outside of our division, thats why i am happy that we only play one division game until muuuuch later in the season.

Second Honeymoon
04-21-2010, 11:44 AM
I hope that Kubiak has learned from last years mistakes when he tried to out-couch the other sideline. He doesn't need to be better than the other coach, he just needs to not be worse by making dumb mistakes.

him not having Schaub spike the ball on the Moats fumble against the Colts was a horrible and unforgiveable mistake.

basically he felt taking away about 12 seconds from Manning was more important than assuring a 1st and Goal from the one. Does he really need to coach that scared? I know I may be in the minority, but he lost me on that play. I was at a bar and even the most noob of fans were yelling for Schaub to spike it. He had a chance to outcoach Caldwell who had his thumb up his rear, but once he gave them the 2 minute warning, Caldwell pulled it out and threw the flag.

The halfback pass and the flat and inconsistent performances were just the icing on the cake. Just an unforgiveable mistake and I blame Schaub as well and I am a huge Matt guy. That was just stupid and inexcusable at the NFL level.

Hopefully Gary can finally shed the 'im a n00b coach' tag and actually get the team prepared to come out and play 4 quarters and stop making stupid and ignorant play calls and decisions. Gary leaves a lot to be desired as head coach...just my opinion.

I am going to go with 7-9 or worse as my prediction. It may change a bit if we have a good draft but something tells me we are going to draft another Fresno State hero and neglect extreme positions of need (Center, DT, CB) We didn't have any problems putting points on the board last year, we just made too many mistakes and missed too many opportunities (dumb moves and bad kicks)

hopefully Kris Brown gets run out of town and Rackers delivers for us. Kris lost me too. Horrible and pathetic year for KB last year and inexcusable.

Second Honeymoon
04-21-2010, 11:45 AM
7-9.
I just can't see us improving with that schedule. The NFC west was a gift to us last year, along with the AFC east. We went 6-2 in those divisional games.

yup and 1-5 in our own division with our only win being giftwrapped by Kerry Collins.

more of the same from the Kubiak. never met a big game he couldnt lose.

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 11:51 AM
You know, we actually have a good possibility of starting off very strong this year. The Texans MO has always been getting out the gate too slow, and cant win in our division.

We have consisitently done well outside of our division, thats why i am happy that we only play one division game until muuuuch later in the season.

We'll be last year's Broncos! Going 6-0 then having that demoralizing end to their season.

That'll be fun.

dalemurphy
04-21-2010, 12:27 PM
him not having Schaub spike the ball on the Moats fumble against the Colts was a horrible and unforgiveable mistake.

basically he felt taking away about 12 seconds from Manning was more important than assuring a 1st and Goal from the one. Does he really need to coach that scared? I know I may be in the minority, but he lost me on that play. I was at a bar and even the most noob of fans were yelling for Schaub to spike it. He had a chance to outcoach Caldwell who had his thumb up his rear, but once he gave them the 2 minute warning, Caldwell pulled it out and threw the flag.

The halfback pass and the flat and inconsistent performances were just the icing on the cake. Just an unforgiveable mistake and I blame Schaub as well and I am a huge Matt guy. That was just stupid and inexcusable at the NFL level.

Hopefully Gary can finally shed the 'im a n00b coach' tag and actually get the team prepared to come out and play 4 quarters and stop making stupid and ignorant play calls and decisions. Gary leaves a lot to be desired as head coach...just my opinion.

I am going to go with 7-9 or worse as my prediction. It may change a bit if we have a good draft but something tells me we are going to draft another Fresno State hero and neglect extreme positions of need (Center, DT, CB) We didn't have any problems putting points on the board last year, we just made too many mistakes and missed too many opportunities (dumb moves and bad kicks)

hopefully Kris Brown gets run out of town and Rackers delivers for us. Kris lost me too. Horrible and pathetic year for KB last year and inexcusable.


He made the same mistake that Caldwell did. Neither of them had any idea that that play could've been overturned. That's why Caldwell did not even consider throwing his red flag until well into the 2 minute warning. He simply didn't have the information at hand that the ball may have been live.

Milking the clock a little bit isn't coaching scared, by the way. It is the smart thing to do. It was a coaching error. There's no doubt about it. But, it had nothing to do with being scared, it was the result of poor communication from the coaching booth to Kubiak.

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 12:35 PM
He made the same mistake that Caldwell did. Neither of them had any idea that that play could've been overturned. That's why Caldwell did not even consider throwing his red flag until well into the 2 minute warning. He simply didn't have the information at hand that the ball may have been live.

Milking the clock a little bit isn't coaching scared, by the way. It is the smart thing to do. It was a coaching error. There's no doubt about it. But, it had nothing to do with being scared, it was the result of poor communication from the coaching booth to Kubiak.

Schaub knew it was a fumble. He was in hurry up/spike the ball mode trying to set up his team. I've never seen Schaub walking off the field more agitated when the clock was stopped like that. He knew it was a fumble.

Kubiak needs to trust in his QB a little more. Team's in good hands with Schaub out there. If you see him panicking amd trying to set up for the spike, you question him later. Get it done first. If Schaub wants a timeout, he'll call one.

A deplorable move that's 100% on Kubiak.

Tailgate
04-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Milking the clock a little bit isn't coaching scared, by the way. It is the smart thing to do. It was a coaching error. There's no doubt about it. But, it had nothing to do with being scared, it was the result of poor communication from the coaching booth to Kubiak.

Correct, from what I remember.... it is my understanding that the booth did not give any inclination to Kubiak that he should even begin to think about challenging the play.

Second Honeymoon
04-21-2010, 01:09 PM
Correct, from what I remember.... it is my understanding that the booth did not give any inclination to Kubiak that he should even begin to think about challenging the play.

then get some people around you that are worth a damn. even a retarded monkey knew that was a fumble.

oh and schaub knew it was too.....but it was more important to take 10 seconds off the clock

even having the chance of a 1st and goal is more important than 10 seconds off the clock..
deplorable move and there is no way you can spin it
kubiak lost me with that play...and we lost the game

Thorn
04-21-2010, 01:19 PM
Well fans, look at it this way. This year we are going to settle a lot of arguments around here. If the Texans can't muster up 10 wins or more, then we will all know they ain't up to snuff yet. Which means that Kubiac has had five years and hasn't done the job.

On the other hand, if the Texans manage 10 or more wins out of this schedule, then all the Kubiac haters will just have to take a back seat.

So in all reality, this tough ass schedule is a very good thing. Now we shall see who our Texans really are.

TexCanada
04-21-2010, 01:23 PM
Well fans, look at it this way. This year we are going to settle a lot of arguments around here. If the Texans can't muster up 10 wins or more, then we will all know they ain't up to snuff yet. Which means that Kubiac has had five years and hasn't done the job.

On the other hand, if the Texans manage 10 or more wins out of this schedule, then all the Kubiac haters will just have to take a back seat.

So in all reality, this tough ass schedule is a very good thing. Now we shall see who our Texans really are.

Very true, but it is still fun to argue about it during the off-season

devo-x
04-21-2010, 01:48 PM
I'll predict either 8-8 or 9-7 before the draft (tough schedule with winnable games)

dalemurphy
04-21-2010, 01:51 PM
Schaub knew it was a fumble. He was in hurry up/spike the ball mode trying to set up his team. I've never seen Schaub walking off the field more agitated when the clock was stopped like that. He knew it was a fumble.

Kubiak needs to trust in his QB a little more. Team's in good hands with Schaub out there. If you see him panicking amd trying to set up for the spike, you question him later. Get it done first. If Schaub wants a timeout, he'll call one.

A deplorable move that's 100% on Kubiak.

I totally agree with you about Schaub and the freedom/trust he should be given. Also, I agree that it was Kubiak's responsibility to get that ball spiked. I'm only arguing with SH that it wasn't out of fear of Peyton that he risked the fumble. He simply didn't think it was an issue. Regarding Schaub's behavior, I'm pretty sure he assumed Schaub was just being too aggressive with the clock management in the 2 minute offense. He had no idea Schaub was trying to avoid an instant replay.

infantrycak
04-21-2010, 01:59 PM
Regarding Schaub's behavior, I'm pretty sure he assumed Schaub was just being too aggressive with the clock management in the 2 minute offense. He had no idea Schaub was trying to avoid an instant replay.

Is there anything to say he was trying to avoid an instant replay? Looked to me at the time like he was just trying to get another play off before the two minute warning.

OzzO
04-21-2010, 02:00 PM
Well fans, look at it this way. This year we are going to settle a lot of arguments around here. ....

Wait... that means we'll need to come up with new arguments and threads to merge? Great. Just great.

:fans:

Thorn
04-21-2010, 02:06 PM
Wait... that means we'll need to come up with new arguments and threads to merge? Great. Just great.

:fans:

coming up with new things to argue about won't be a challange for the folks that hang on this board. Arguing in the face of facts is also quite common, so I might have been a bit premature in my post. :lol:






:stirpot:

b0ng
04-21-2010, 02:16 PM
Honestly, this schedule pisses me off less than the previous two we've had. I like opening against a familiar team, and I don't believe any of the NFC East teams are "unbeatable" for us. The Eagles are going to look completely different, but the Skins are now run by a very familiar regime. That leaves Dallas, who looks the strongest, but will have OL woes, and the Giants who's defense turned into a liability last season.
The AFC West is basically a joke except for San Diego, who have a worse running game than we do. Denver can be dangerous but they are getting rid of their offensive talent. If the Raiders get rid of Russell then yeah they might have something, and KC is is still figuring out what they are.
We play both SD and Dallas at home, which might give us an edge, and we play the Jets later in the season (maybe Kris Jenkins is out again for his seasonal sabbatical?). The Ravens weren't the defense they used to be without Ryan last year, and this works to our andvantage.

With that it will ultimately come down to how they open the season.

Tailgate
04-21-2010, 02:34 PM
then get some people around you that are worth a damn. even a retarded monkey knew that was a fumble.

oh and schaub knew it was too.....but it was more important to take 10 seconds off the clock

even having the chance of a 1st and goal is more important than 10 seconds off the clock..
deplorable move and there is no way you can spin it
kubiak lost me with that play...and we lost the game

So same goes for Colts staff as well because they didnt see it either?? And where is this quote from Schaub saying he "knew" it was a fumble? As has been stated already... it looked to me he was in not in any frantic hurry and at the most was simply trying to get off another play before the 2 min warning.

Heck, the fumble ITSELF was up for much debate in the way it was called after the challenge. It was all in the media on if the Texans were screwed by the actual call that it was a fumble considering the Colts players leg was out of bounds... yada, yada, yada.

And the ACTUAL FUMBLE by Moats is what cost the friggin game... lets reality check this a bit.

Norg
04-21-2010, 02:47 PM
7-9.
I just can't see us improving with that schedule. The NFC west was a gift to us last year, along with the AFC east. We went 6-2 in those divisional games.

A gift we took care of biznas with we went 3-1 in the NFC west and almost beat the Cards

And if we go 6-10 7-9 or 8-8 i hope Kubes stays just saying right now LOL

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 02:53 PM
So same goes for Colts staff as well because they didnt see it either?? And where is this quote from Schaub saying he "knew" it was a fumble? As has been stated already... it looked to me he was in not in any frantic hurry and at the most was simply trying to get off another play before the 2 min warning.

Heck, the fumble ITSELF was up for much debate in the way it was called after the challenge. It was all in the media on if the Texans were screwed by the actual call that it was a fumble considering the Colts players leg was out of bounds... yada, yada, yada.

And the ACTUAL FUMBLE by Moats is what cost the friggin game... lets reality check this a bit.

We know that.

The thing is... the mis-handling of that fumble is the culimination of Kubiak's expertise as a HC. It was when I came to terms with the limitations of certain aspects of his coaching skill. It is what it is. Anybody's going to get better with more talent.

I don't think Kubiak even KNEW that ball came out until the warning. Schaub did. You give opponents as little time as possible for review ANYTIME the ball comes out. Schaub was hustling and bustling like I'd never seen. He knew. Trust in QBs is Kubiak's main problem. Ego maybe?

I do not think he is a bad coach. Just not spunky enough.

infantrycak
04-21-2010, 03:00 PM
I don't think Kubiak even KNEW that ball came out until the warning. Schaub did. You give opponents as little time as possible for review ANYTIME the ball comes out. Schaub was hustling and bustling like I'd never seen. He knew.

We simply do not know that. It's your surmise because it fits the picture you are painting. It is equally plausible Schaub was hustling down the field getting ready in case Kubiak wanted to run another play. You know catch the other team on a quick snap before they substitute personal and stack the box, whatever. You are also overlooking that many commentators and people thought the refs blew the replay so if it had been called correctly nobody would be complaining about what happened.

Second Honeymoon
04-21-2010, 03:17 PM
We simply do not know that. It's your surmise because it fits the picture you are painting. It is equally plausible Schaub was hustling down the field getting ready in case Kubiak wanted to run another play. You know catch the other team on a quick snap before they substitute personal and stack the box, whatever. You are also overlooking that many commentators and people thought the refs blew the replay so if it had been called correctly nobody would be complaining about what happened.

refs got the call right. kubiak and co. blew it...again.

as for whether Schaub knew it or not, i do not know....i do know that Kubiak blew it...again.

hopefully he can finally grow into a competent HC...guy has been a good coach for us and done a great job retooling the offense...he just kinda sucks as a HC and may not be wired for the job.

gtexan02
04-21-2010, 03:20 PM
Well fans, look at it this way. This year we are going to settle a lot of arguments around here. If the Texans can't muster up 10 wins or more, then we will all know they ain't up to snuff yet. Which means that Kubiac has had five years and hasn't done the job.

On the other hand, if the Texans manage 10 or more wins out of this schedule, then all the Kubiac haters will just have to take a back seat.

So in all reality, this tough ass schedule is a very good thing. Now we shall see who our Texans really are.

Cmon, you know better than this. :)

If we lose more than 6 games and miss the playoffs, its because (I can predict the future):
1) Our schedule was too tough. Next year playoffs for sure.
2) Too many injuries to key players. Winning 8 games was commendable with that schedule.
3) Our FO messed up the contracts, and the players were demoralized/missed camp
4) Unforseen events in the draft caused us to pick a player with a lot of potential. He only needs one more year!

infantrycak
04-21-2010, 03:23 PM
refs got the call right.

Well I disagree. They were correct to reverse the no fumble call but they botched calling it a touchback. Should have been Indy ball at the one. But none of that affects the wisdom of the clock management.

Thorn
04-21-2010, 03:27 PM
Cmon, you know better than this. :)

If we lose more than 6 games and miss the playoffs, its because (I can predict the future):
1) Our schedule was too tough. Next year playoffs for sure.
2) Too many injuries to key players. Winning 8 games was commendable with that schedule.
3) Our FO messed up the contracts, and the players were demoralized/missed camp
4) Unforseen events in the draft caused us to pick a player with a lot of potential. He only needs one more year!

the only excuse any of us should accept is the one I bolded.

NitroGSXR
04-21-2010, 03:28 PM
We simply do not know that. It's your surmise because it fits the picture you are painting. It is equally plausible Schaub was hustling down the field getting ready in case Kubiak wanted to run another play. You know catch the other team on a quick snap before they substitute personal and stack the box, whatever. You are also overlooking that many commentators and people thought the refs blew the replay so if it had been called correctly nobody would be complaining about what happened.

You're right. It fits the picture I painted although I've "overlooked" nothing. The refs blowing the challenge is a separate incident that has nothing to do with what I've painted. My TV didn't paint Schaub hustling. I saw that. I saw him trying to play some football. 17 seconds vaporized in what felt like an eternity. Was he trying to spike, throw a TD, punt the football... none of that matters. He was clearly frustrated at the fact that a play did not go off. Maybe even more frustrated than I'd ever seen him. That means something to me.

I'm sticking with the idea that he saw the ball in their hands and then the refs gave it back. Get a play off. Nullify their chances at a challenge. That's what I think I saw.

bckey
04-26-2010, 01:24 PM
Well I disagree. They were correct to reverse the no fumble call but they botched calling it a touchback. Should have been Indy ball at the one. But none of that affects the wisdom of the clock management.

That is the way I think it should have gone also. Hopefully this is the year we can at least split with Indy. That is why I think the home opener is so crucial.

TexCanada
04-26-2010, 01:47 PM
That is the way I think it should have gone also. Hopefully this is the year we can at least split with Indy. That is why I think the home opener is so crucial.

Ya we need a split at the minimum this year. We can't win the division if we lose 2 to them every year.

thunderkyss
04-30-2010, 08:58 PM
The AFC West is basically a joke except for San Diego, who have a worse running game than we do.

We play both SD and Dallas at home, which might give us an edge, and we play the Jets later in the season (maybe Kris Jenkins is out again for his seasonal sabbatical?). The Ravens weren't the defense they used to be without Ryan last year, and this works to our andvantage.

With that it will ultimately come down to how they open the season.

I agree with most of your post. Who knows how good the teams we will face in 2010 will be?

When was the last time the Cowboys posted more than 10 wins in back to back seasons?

thunderkyss
04-30-2010, 09:10 PM
My TV didn't paint Schaub hustling. I saw that. I saw him trying to play some football. 17 seconds vaporized in what felt like an eternity. Was he trying to spike, throw a TD, punt the football... none of that matters. He was clearly frustrated at the fact that a play did not go off. Maybe even more frustrated than I'd ever seen him. That means something to me.


Then we need to get rid of Schaub. That's one of those situations where you've got to do what you've got to do, and pay the price later. It may also be the reason he doesn't get to call audibles. IMHO, if he doesn't have enough confidence and gumption to get up there & spike the ball in a situation he knows is caustic... he doesn't need to be making important decisions on every down.

The Pencil Neck
04-30-2010, 10:07 PM
I agree with most of your post. Who knows how good the teams we will face in 2010 will be?

When was the last time the Cowboys posted more than 10 wins in back to back seasons?

1995 and 1996.

Brando
05-04-2010, 12:08 PM
Here's AJ
Putting the Texans-Cowboys Week 3 matchup in its proper perspective



Here's what Nations has to say about the Texans - Cowboys week three matchup:
"Every four years, the Houston Texans get to play in a Super Bowl. Well, at least the closest thing they'll likely ever see to a Super Bowl, which is facing the Dallas Cowboys..."


My first reaction was ... really? They're still going there? I would think they'd get tired of that after all these years. I've been a regular at Houston NFL games since Earl was wearing #20 and it's like a broken record - every four years at least. Blah, blah, freakity blah.



Read more here. (http://www.examiner.com/x-778-Houston-Texans-Examiner~y2010m5d3-Putting-the-TexansCowboys-Week-3-matchup-in-its-proper-perspective)

I couldn't agree more. Give me a victory over the Colts in Week One over the Cowboys in Week 3. I would like to win both of course but Week 1 versus a divisional opponent is more important over beating the Cowboys.

thunderkyss
05-04-2010, 01:24 PM
I couldn't agree more. Give me a victory over the Colts in Week One over the Cowboys in Week 3. I would like to win both of course but Week 1 versus a divisional opponent is more important over beating the Cowboys.

I agree, this game means more to some Texans fans, me being one of them.

I'll take an Indy Sweep over a win against the Cowboys. But I'll gladly trade either Indy game for that win over the Cowboys.

Why?

Even though the Colts have beat us 15 out of the 16 times we've played, they and their fans give us more respect than the Cowboys and their fans.