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jaayteetx
01-03-2010, 07:54 PM
Signed Bernard Pollard. Sign the man already! He's been huge since he showed up, love his attitude.

Lucky
01-03-2010, 07:56 PM
Co-signed,
DeMeco Ryans
Owen Daniels

jaayteetx
01-03-2010, 07:56 PM
Co-signed,
DeMeco Ryans
Owen Daniels

Yep Yep

Norg
01-03-2010, 08:01 PM
Dont worry iam pretty sure Pollard is Staying with us next year we got that on lock

dc_txtech
01-03-2010, 08:04 PM
Signed Bernard Pollard. Sign the man already! He's been huge since he showed up, love his attitude.

I want a long term contract signed yesterday.

thunderkyss
01-03-2010, 08:16 PM
I would bet someone will offer Pollard big money. We've got Demeco & OD to sign as well.

I had heard on the radio today, that we locked up Foster for 2 years...... I didn't know that.

& what do you guys think about Dunta? 5 for 75 for Randy Moss, no TDs.. do we want to keep Dunta?

Lucky
01-03-2010, 08:19 PM
I would bet someone will offer Pollard big money. We've got Demeco & OD to sign as well.
All three are restricted free agents. The Texans have the right to match any offer.

4Texans
01-03-2010, 08:34 PM
All three are restricted free agents. The Texans have the right to match any offer.

You think New England makes Pollard an offer?????:kitten:

If anyone deserves to be paid, it's Pollard. He made a statement the whole time he's been with us this year.

SoCalTexanFan
01-03-2010, 08:44 PM
D Ryan - Franchise Tag
D Robinson- probably sign somewhere else but definitely not for the Texans original offer if he stays
O Daniels-Love the guy but his injury may prevent him from the big pay day. Hope he stays but a torn ACL is not the injury you want in a contract year
Pollard-will be resigned unless Texans can land a top tier safety like T Mays in the draft.

b0ng
01-03-2010, 08:48 PM
D Ryan - Franchise Tag
D Robinson- probably sign somewhere else but definitely not for the Texans original offer if he stays
O Daniels-Love the guy but his injury may prevent him from the big pay day. Hope he stays but a torn ACL is not the injury you want in a contract year
Pollard-will be resigned unless Texans can land a top tier safety like T Mays in the draft.

I would be very pissed if they franchised Demeco rather than paying him.

Pollardized
01-03-2010, 08:48 PM
Signed Pollardized (ME)... for all the mental anguish I have put up with over the years; and for the ulcer I am developing tonight.

Pantherstang84
01-03-2010, 08:56 PM
I would be very pissed if they franchised Demeco rather than paying him.

No franchise tags in the uncapped year.

infantrycak
01-03-2010, 09:01 PM
No franchise tags in the uncapped year.

Not correct. Franchise tags will still be available and RFA tenders are extended from 4 to 6 years.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
01-03-2010, 09:06 PM
Goodbye Dunta!

TexansFanatic
01-03-2010, 09:10 PM
All three are restricted free agents. The Texans have the right to match any offer.

Pollard is a restricted free agent? Are you sure?

Great news if true.

What would the Texans' compensation be if he signed with another team?

ChampionTexan
01-03-2010, 09:19 PM
No franchise tags in the uncapped year.

Not correct. Franchise tags will still be available and RFA tenders are extended from 4 to 6 years.

Actually two franchise/transition tags will be available to each team in an uncapped year.

Lucky
01-03-2010, 09:19 PM
Pollard is a restricted free agent? Are you sure?

Great news if true.

What would the Texans' compensation be if he signed with another team?
Pollard has now been in the league for 4 seasons. In previous years, that would make him eligible for unrestricted free agency. But due to the NFL opting out of the collective bargaining agreement with the players' union, players need 6 vested league years to become UFAs. That's if their current teams decide to tender them. Which I'm sure the Texans will with Pollard.

If Pollard were to sign an offer sheet, and the Texans refused to match, the Texans would receive a draft pick commensurate with the type of tender that was offered. The options would be a 1st & 3rd round pick tender, a 1st round pick tender, a 2nd round tender, and a minimum tender (which would also return a 2nd round selection as Pollard was a 2nd round pick in 2006).

edo783
01-03-2010, 09:29 PM
IMO, I doubt we will see very much movement of quality players during the FA period. The new rules extending UFA to 6 years will affect something like 212 players in the league (I think that was in USA Today). Teams will hit the guys they want to keep with a strong RFA and those they want to unload, maybe for contract reasons, they wont. If I understand the contract situation correctly, it looks like there will be a good opportunity for some teams to unload high paid, older players without the usual cap hit. If so, we sure could have used something like that for Weaver a couple of years ago. On the other hand, we might be able to pick up an older player (29-34) or two for a much smaller salary hit than usual and get a couple of years out of them.

awtysst
01-03-2010, 09:39 PM
IMO, I doubt we will see very much movement of quality players during the FA period. The new rules extending UFA to 6 years will affect something like 212 players in the league (I think that was in USA Today). Teams will hit the guys they want to keep with a strong RFA and those they want to unload, maybe for contract reasons, they wont. If I understand the contract situation correctly, it looks like there will be a good opportunity for some teams to unload high paid, older players without the usual cap hit. If so, we sure could have used something like that for Weaver a couple of years ago. On the other hand, we might be able to pick up an older player (29-34) or two for a much smaller salary hit than usual and get a couple of years out of them.

Can you say finally get that solid penetrating DT/NT we have been coveting.

ObsiWan
01-03-2010, 09:44 PM
Pollard has now been in the league for 4 seasons. In previous years, that would make him eligible for unrestricted free agency. But due to the NFL opting out of the collective bargaining agreement with the players' union, players need 6 vested league years to become UFAs. That's if their current teams decide to tender them. Which I'm sure the Texans will with Pollard.

If Pollard were to sign an offer sheet, and the Texans refused to match, the Texans would receive a draft pick commensurate with the type of tender that was offered. The options would be a 1st & 3rd round pick tender, a 1st round pick tender, a 2nd round tender, and a minimum tender (which would also return a 2nd round selection as Pollard was a 2nd round pick in 2006).

How many players of each level tender can a team assign?
For example, are they limited to one 1st & 3rd, two 1st rd, two 2nd rd, etc....?
How many players at each level can we "protect"?

TexansFanatic
01-03-2010, 09:46 PM
Pollard has now been in the league for 4 seasons. In previous years, that would make him eligible for unrestricted free agency. But due to the NFL opting out of the collective bargaining agreement with the players' union, players need 6 vested league years to become UFAs. That's if their current teams decide to tender them. Which I'm sure the Texans will with Pollard.

If Pollard were to sign an offer sheet, and the Texans refused to match, the Texans would receive a draft pick commensurate with the type of tender that was offered. The options would be a 1st & 3rd round pick tender, a 1st round pick tender, a 2nd round tender, and a minimum tender (which would also return a 2nd round selection as Pollard was a 2nd round pick in 2006).

But I thought if a player was cut (as Pollard was from KC) and became a street free agent (as Pollard did) that meant he was a UFA from that point on. No?

edo783
01-03-2010, 09:47 PM
Can you say finally get that solid penetrating DT/NT we have been coveting.

Yes I can. However, will it come via FA or the draft. Some real expensive DT/NT might have trouble getting a RFA offer and then MAYBE we could snag him. This offseason will be quite a bit different than other years, so I'm not real certain how it will play out until it actually happens.

Lucky
01-03-2010, 09:48 PM
How many players of each level tender can a team assign?
For example, are they limited to one 1st & 3rd, two 1st rd, two 2nd rd, etc....?
How many players at each level can we "protect"?
No limitations on RFA tenders.

edo783
01-03-2010, 09:50 PM
No limitations on RFA tenders.


This why I am doubting a lot of movement during FA. May wind up being all kinds of movement as teams dump high salary guys, but I can't get a grasp on it yet.

Lucky
01-03-2010, 09:50 PM
But I thought if a player was cut (as Pollard was from KC) and became a street free agent (as Pollard did) that meant he was a UFA from that point on. No?
No. I'll look up an example from years past. It doesn't seem fair (from a player's POV). But, that's how it was laid out in the CBA.

TexansFanatic
01-03-2010, 10:00 PM
No. I'll look up an example from years past. It doesn't seem fair (from a player's POV). But, that's how it was laid out in the CBA.

You're right. It doesn't seem fair to the player, but I love it for the Texans.

Thanks for the info.

Lucky
01-03-2010, 10:05 PM
No. I'll look up an example from years past.
Kevin Walter. Drafted by the Giants. Cut. Signed by the Bengals, who later tendered him with the minimum RFA amount. The Texans signed Walter to an offer sheet and the Bengals received the Texans 7th round pick in the '06 draft after refusing to match.

Edit: Vonta Leach is another example. Signed as an UDFA by the Packers, was cut, signed by the Texans in 2006. Had a very good year here in Houston and received an offer sheet from the Giants. The Texans matched (they would have received no compensation, as Leach was not drafted by any team and the RFA was the minimum).

TexansFanatic
01-03-2010, 10:07 PM
Kevin Walter. Drafted by the Giants. Cut. Signed by the Bengals, who later tendered him with the minimum RFA amount. The Texans signed Walter to an offer sheet and the Bengals received the Texans 7th round pick in the '06 draft after refusing to match.

Wow. That's really odd. But I like it!

edo783
01-03-2010, 10:20 PM
Wow. That's really odd. But I like it!

Yeah, kind of a good value pick up for a 7th round pick.

TexansFanatic
01-03-2010, 10:32 PM
Yeah, kind of a good value pick up for a 7th round pick.

I especially like that we can match any offer another team makes for Pollard. I was really worried our front office might screw up and let him get away.

Brando
01-03-2010, 10:33 PM
Please sign Pollard!