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Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 08:32 PM
19 carries 97 yards and a TD vs a decent run D. Fools gold or does he have a chance to make an impact next season? If he performs similarly next week will these two games be enough to convince anyone that RB shouldn't be quite the priority we all figured it would be going into the off-season?

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 08:34 PM
I like him. Im not sure if he's a full time starter but him and a healthy and slimmer Slaton could be quite a punch.

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 08:37 PM
19 carries 97 yards and a TD vs a decent run D. Fools gold or does he have a chance to make an impact next season? If he performs similarly next week will these two games be enough to convince anyone that RB shouldn't be quite the priority we all figured it would be going into the off-season?

Ron Dayne had a couple of good games for us too. I like him, but I don't think we should stop focusing on a high round running back in the draft

Corrosion
12-27-2009, 08:41 PM
Ron Dayne had a couple of good games for us too. I like him, but I don't think we should stop focusing on a high round running back in the draft

Agree'd .... I think the worst thing that can happen is him having another game like this against the Pats ..... then this team thinks they can get by without drafting one on the first day.

TEXANRED
12-27-2009, 08:43 PM
19 carries 97 yards and a TD vs a decent run D. Fools gold or does he have a chance to make an impact next season? If he performs similarly next week will these two games be enough to convince anyone that RB shouldn't be quite the priority we all figured it would be going into the off-season?

We need a legit starting running back. I like foster as a change of pace and Slaton is more like a Bryan Westbrook type running back.

We need a guy who can get one yard and hang on to the ball and there is not one guy on this squad that is that guy.

TexansFanatic
12-27-2009, 08:43 PM
Ron Dayne had a couple of good games for us too. I like him, but I don't think we should stop focusing on a high round running back in the draft

Agreed. Can we PLEASE draft an impact/franchise running back for once?

Corrosion
12-27-2009, 08:45 PM
We need a legit starting running back. I like foster as a change of pace and Slaton is more like a Bryan Westbrook type running back.

We need a guy who can get one yard and hang on to the ball and there is not one guy on this squad that is that guy.

I think the biggest trouble for the Texans in the running game , especially short yardage is their OL - they just cant get a push up front.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 08:45 PM
Agree'd .... I think the worst thing that can happen is him having another game like this against the Pats ..... then this team thinks they can get by without drafting one on the first day.

I don't think it would be the worst thing if it helped us get a W but I understand what you mean. I think he could be a solid 2nd or 3rd back and could easily replace Chris Brown as our "big back" but beyond that I'm not sure.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 08:46 PM
I don't think it would be the worst thing if it helped us get a W but I understand what you mean. I think he could be a solid 2nd or 3rd back and could easily replace Chris Brown as our "big back" but beyond that I'm not sure.

I thought Chris Brown was our "crap back"?

Corrosion
12-27-2009, 08:48 PM
I thought Chris Brown was our "crap back"?

How bout that fumble he got away with today ....

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 08:49 PM
I don't think it would be the worst thing if it helped us get a W but I understand what you mean. I think he could be a solid 2nd or 3rd back and could easily replace Chris Brown as our "big back" but beyond that I'm not sure.

Well this is the way I see it:
Slaton - safe
Moats - Will make it to camp
Foster - Will make it to camp
Brown - DONE! - replaced by a bruiser type rookie in the 2nd round.

Ryan
12-27-2009, 08:49 PM
It kind of reminds me of the Chris Taylor bandwagon. He put up one good game against the Browns 3 or 4 years back and then the next season everyone wanted him to play, then goes on IR and doesnt take another snap.

Foster looked good today, but the jury is out on him till he can be consistent...which is pretty much the state of the franchise.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 08:51 PM
We already have our franchise running back. What we need is better interior line play.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 08:52 PM
Agreed. Can we PLEASE draft an impact/franchise running back for once?

You mean like last year's third round draft pick?

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 08:52 PM
also i would like to give props to the o-line, especially chris myers, who did a real nice job of creating holes against a solid front 7 today. foster looks like he may have a future here alright

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 08:53 PM
How bout that fumble he got away with today ....

I dont remember seeing him back in after that play.

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 08:58 PM
I dont remember seeing him back in after that play.

Hmm he got the first down that ended the game.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 09:00 PM
Hmm he got the first down that ended the game.

Chris Brown i mean. I think he went to the bench after his fumble.

Yankee_In_TX
12-27-2009, 09:03 PM
I think the biggest trouble for the Texans in the running game , especially short yardage is their OL - they just cant get a push up front.

...and all we have is a change of pace back --> Slaton = Moats = Foster

Yankee_In_TX
12-27-2009, 09:04 PM
also i would like to give props to the o-line, especially chris myers, who did a real nice job of creating holes against a solid front 7 today. foster looks like he may have a future here alright

Huh? No, he doesn't. Miami played like crap. He is more of the same. It's like when Moats had the great game and people said 'he's the one.'

NONE of them are the ONE, maybe part of the whole, but no the ONE.

Speedy
12-27-2009, 09:08 PM
Hmm he got the first down that ended the game. If you mean Foster then you're right. If you mean Brown, he never touched the ball again after that non-call fumble in the 3rd quarter.

Honoring Earl 34
12-27-2009, 09:09 PM
Huh? No, he doesn't. Miami played like crap. He is more of the same. It's like when Moats had the great game and people said 'he's the one.'

NONE of them are the ONE, maybe part of the whole, but no the ONE.

He looked ok , like he wanted a job .

If the Texan cheerleaders held up one of those big paper banners before the game , Chris Brown shouldn't go first . :rake:

Mailman
12-27-2009, 09:11 PM
...and all we have is a change of pace back --> Slaton = Moats = Foster

Yeah, that "all we have" pace-changer has over 2500 yards from scrimmage in only 15 games.

The bellyaching about the RB position is misplaced. Slaton is a playmaker and a stud, folks. He is Tiki Barber in-the-making.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 09:14 PM
He looked ok , like he wanted a job .

If the Texan cheerleaders held up one of those big paper banners before the game , Chris Brown shouldn't go first . :rake:

Lol i could see it now

"Chris Brown stuffed for no gain. Tackle made my paper banner."

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 09:23 PM
If you mean Foster then you're right. If you mean Brown, he never touched the ball again after that non-call fumble in the 3rd quarter.

My mistake, I thought it was Foster with the psuedo-fumble

SAMURAITEXAN
12-27-2009, 09:35 PM
I think the biggest trouble for the Texans in the running game , especially short yardage is their OL - they just cant get a push up front.

Yeah I agree. I would like for Texans to address OL first (draft OL in the 2nd - 3rd rd or sign FA or both) and then RB.

Go Texans!!!

thunderkyss
12-27-2009, 10:02 PM
Huh? No, he doesn't. Miami played like crap. He is more of the same. It's like when Moats had the great game and people said 'he's the one.'

NONE of them are the ONE, maybe part of the whole, but no the ONE.

When Miami started playing, our run game disappeared.

I agree, with Yankee. He had 13 carries against the SeaHawks. I would have loved to see more of him against the Rams, but that game was close enough.

If we can't get a good RB in FA, we need a 1st or 2nd round RB.

thunderkyss
12-27-2009, 10:05 PM
Yeah I agree. I would like for Texans to address OL first (draft OL in the 2nd - 3rd rd or sign FA or both) and then RB.

Go Texans!!!

I know no one wants to hear it, but I doubt we do anything for the OL that early in the game. Caldwell & White are probably going to be starters with Myers & Brisiel as back-ups.

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 10:21 PM
I know no one wants to hear it, but I doubt we do anything for the OL that early in the game. Caldwell & White are probably going to be starters with Myers & Brisiel as back-ups.

If Caldwell can find the game he had at BAMA, he will be worth the wait.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 10:43 PM
Let me take it a little bit farther. I believe that the two main weaknesses on the current team are the running game (Oline and RB play) and the secondary. Having said that let me throw out two possible scenarios for the draft:

1. First round RB and second round OL or vice-versa

2. First round safety and second round CB or vice-versa

I believe both improve our team. In scenario two we continue to build a defense that looks like it has some serious potential. We would be relying on our offense to be pass heavy again but if Owen is healthy, Steve has a moderate rebound and Chris Brown is cut I could see it happening. The running game won't be anything special but I believe it would be a step up from where it is now. Scenario one obviously also improves us, giving us some talent and depth at RB and beefing up the O-line which is never a bad thing. We might have a good running game. Maybe in this scenario Eugene Wilson comes back and performs admirably and we get a sufficient replacement for Dunta in FA.

In the end who is available at the spot we draft will probably be a huge factor in this decision but if you could cherry pick which prospects fell which scenario would you lean towards? Or if the prospects were equally rated perhaps. Which area would you rather upgrade significantly and which do you think we can skimp on a bit?

Thorn
12-27-2009, 10:52 PM
I think another high round safety/or CB is a must, if one falls to us. If not, I'd draft a good RB, and if that doesn't fall to us, drafting a lineman of any flavor in the high rounds is always something I'm agreeable with.

Texan4Ever
12-27-2009, 11:03 PM
I think Arian Foster is a solid player, not a 1,000 + yard rusher but a solid running back nonetheless (however, I would love to be proven wrong by Mr. Foster).

That being said, if you watched the Phins' game, there were many times when the offensive line did a piss poor job of blocking and opening up holes so Foster was forced to bounce to the outside or take a loss. There were many plays Myers and White didn't get low enough and just stood up causing them to be forced backwards.

Basically, we need better interior linemen if we want to run the ball...

vtech9
12-27-2009, 11:04 PM
I just don't see the Texans taking a RB in the 1st. I wouldn't mind that kid from Stanford, but I just don't think the Texans are willing to spend that high of a draft pick on a RB.

My dream scenario is for every team that picks before us to be stupid enough to pass on Suh. I know it's not going to happen, but if we could add him to our D-line, we'd have one of the best D-lines in the NFL. If I have a pick in the draft, he's my #1 pick.

What do you guys think about a possible trade with St. Louis for Steven Jackson? I know they aren't likely to give him up, but he's the kind of RB I'd like to see on the Texans.

vtech9
12-27-2009, 11:09 PM
I think Arian Foster is a solid player, not a 1,000 + yard rusher but a solid running back nonetheless (however, I would love to be proven wrong by Mr. Foster).

That being said, if you watched the Phins' game, there were many times when the offensive line did a piss poor job of blocking and opening up holes so Foster was forced to bounce to the outside or take a loss. There were many plays Myers and White didn't get low enough and just stood up causing them to be forced backwards.

Basically, we need better interior linemen if we want to run the ball...

:goodpost: I wholeheartedly agree.

SAMURAITEXAN
12-27-2009, 11:22 PM
I know no one wants to hear it, but I doubt we do anything for the OL that early in the game. Caldwell & White are probably going to be starters with Myers & Brisiel as back-ups.

Never know thunderkyss. If not 2010 draft(But I'm guessing at least one from draft), we may sign one of FA OG(At least, I'm hoping).

Go Texans!!!

thunderkyss
12-27-2009, 11:51 PM
I just don't see the Texans taking a RB in the 1st. I wouldn't mind that kid from Stanford, but I just don't think the Texans are willing to spend that high of a draft pick on a RB.

Currently, the chatter is Toby Gerhart will be a 3rd, maybe 2nd round pick, depending on his combine. I don't know the kid. Looked good on the highlights, but so did Arian Foster.

If the majority of the league sees him as a 3rd rounder... I would be upset if we didn't do anything 'till the 3rd round.

My dream scenario is for every team that picks before us to be stupid enough to pass on Suh. I know it's not going to happen, but if we could add him to our D-line, we'd have one of the best D-lines in the NFL. If I have a pick in the draft, he's my #1 pick.

Sounds like you watch college football as much as I do..... not very much. Suh may be all that, but I can't pronounce his first name. Nam-dah-kah?

I saw him play against Texas in the Big-12 Championship game. I saw the highlights, & he looks good. But how many DTs do you see that dominate like that in the NFL?

1 that I know of.

What do you guys think about a possible trade with St. Louis for Steven Jackson? I know they aren't likely to give him up, but he's the kind of RB I'd like to see on the Texans.

I would love to see a Steven Jackson/Ricky Williams type of running back in Houston. But the only reason St Louis would trade him, is for draft picks... & I wouldn't give them draft picks for Steven Jackson.
Never know thunderkyss. If not 2010 draft(But I'm guessing at least one from draft), we may sign one of FA OG(At least, I'm hoping).

Go Texans!!!

I can see us signing a FA OG before drafting one early in the draft.

Hervoyel
12-27-2009, 11:55 PM
You mean like last year's third round draft pick?

You know, one 1200 yard season is nothing to hang a hat on. I can rattle off names of running backs who did it for one year and then never had that kind of success again all night long. Until he puts up another season like 2008 Steve Slaton is among them.

mexican_texan
12-28-2009, 12:07 AM
Kubiak needs to stop this whole "fumle and you're out" policy. Foster would have gotten at least 60 yards against the Rams.

Corrosion
12-28-2009, 09:36 AM
Kubiak needs to stop this whole "fumle and you're out" policy. Foster would have gotten at least 60 yards against the Rams.

You put the ball on the turf You dont deserve to be on the field. You arent helping your team win.

As soon as Kubiak leaves that guy who just fumbled in the game and he puts the ball on the turf again - this entire board will be calling for Kubiaks head because he left that worthless SOB who always fumbles in the game ....


Turnovers are the biggest factor in the NFL - the team who wins the turnover battle on the stat sheet more often than not wins the battle on the scoreboard. The talent level is too close to give teams extra opportunities.

Just ask yourself how many games this Texans team has lost due to turnovers this season - two games against Jacksonville - Arizona and against the Dolts - All of which were inside the opponents five yard line.

Take away any one of those turnovers and this Texans team is likely in the drivers seat for a playoff spot rather than needing help.

DeMarCushPoll
12-28-2009, 10:59 AM
19 carries 97 yards and a TD vs a decent run D. Fools gold or does he have a chance to make an impact next season? If he performs similarly next week will these two games be enough to convince anyone that RB shouldn't be quite the priority we all figured it would be going into the off-season?

I don't think RB priority will have anything to do with how Foster performs. I think it'll be determined by whether or not they think Slaton will bounce back next year. Hopefully they'll move forward as if Slaton won't even play and if he does come back and is anywhere close to his 2008 production then he'll be a bonus. It's hard to say what they'll do, I thought a comp back for Slaton was going to be a priority in last years draft and they didn't draft any RBs. So we'll have to see.

GuerillaBlack
12-28-2009, 11:02 AM
I'd like to keep Foster. He'll work between the tackles. Then, bring in Slaton for the screens/outside stuff. Moats coming in every once in a while. Still wouldn't mind drafting a RB on Day 1 though.

hookinreds
12-28-2009, 11:02 AM
Agreed. Can we PLEASE draft an impact/franchise running back for once?

I'd rather take an impact/franchise C/G over an impact RB. That would provided us with push up the middle, protection for my QB, and a hole for any RB to go through inside the 5.

GuerillaBlack
12-28-2009, 11:04 AM
I'd rather draft some O-Lineman first before a RB though.

TheRealJoker
12-28-2009, 11:09 AM
Watching Arian Foster consistently gain an extra yard after contact further reinforced my criticisms about the current coaching staff. This undrafted rookie is able to produce against a solid defense behind our OL. Yet we decided it was in the best interests of the team to give Chris Brown the ball in key situations this season to let him help the team lose close games.

I have to think that Foster gives the team a better chance to win games than doo doo Brown. Pro Kubiak posters have claimed he has put the players in position to make plays and they haven't stepped up. Maybe that is the case for our kicker who had a proven track record of clutch performances prior to choking in November but that's not a case for our RB with the same last name.

Brown looked like Tarzan and played like Jane in Tennessee as well. He was also Mr. Glass in Tennessee, somehow he stayed healthy this year...

When you take our best player out of the game (AJ against Cards/Jags) and give the ball to Chris Brown with the game on the line, that's setting up your players to fail. When you take the ball out of your QB's hands who has been playing well for you and let a RB throw the ball, that's setting up your players to fail.

When you don't play the best players from the start (Arian Foster over doo doo Brown), that's setting up your players to fail!!!

DeMarCushPoll
12-28-2009, 11:21 AM
I don't think Kub would ever draft RB in the 1st round, but I can see them taking one in 2nd or 3rd.

TheRealJoker
12-28-2009, 11:23 AM
I don't think Kub would ever draft RB in the 1st round, but I can see them taking one in 2nd or 3rd.

He tried to trade our 2nd and 4th round picks in 2006 to trade up into the 1st round with Chicago and draft Deangelo Williams. Luckily the Bills got ahead of us or we wouldn't have drafted DeMeco and OD.

PHAROAH
12-28-2009, 11:27 AM
No he is just stop gap player we need to draft an impact running back in the draft and that means no lower than the 2nd round and possibly round #1.

jaayteetx
12-28-2009, 11:31 AM
He's better than Chris Brown, thats for damn sure. I'm telling ya, on Arian's td run, if that was Chris Brown, he woulda ran right smack dab into the backside of the offensive guard, ala Ron Dayne. Should we, by some miracle, make the playoffs, I PRAY that Chris Brown is inactive.

TheRealJoker
12-28-2009, 11:35 AM
Is Chris Brown the worst RB in the NFL currently on a team? If he's not the "worst" then he's definitely gotta be the slowest. Especially when someone nudges him and it takes him another 3 steps to from completely stopped to "running in quicksand" speed.

No More 8-8's
12-28-2009, 11:42 AM
By the way.....that was a terrible call on Brown so called "fumble". How that didnt get turned over i dont know.

jaayteetx
12-28-2009, 12:16 PM
By the way.....that was a terrible call on Brown so called "fumble". How that didnt get turned over i dont know.

Not reviewable, thats how. The refs screwed up and blew the play dead, therefore everything that happened after said whistle blew never really happened. It was all your imagination.

mexican_texan
12-28-2009, 12:58 PM
You put the ball on the turf You dont deserve to be on the field. You arent helping your team win.

As soon as Kubiak leaves that guy who just fumbled in the game and he puts the ball on the turf again - this entire board will be calling for Kubiaks head because he left that worthless SOB who always fumbles in the game ....


Turnovers are the biggest factor in the NFL - the team who wins the turnover battle on the stat sheet more often than not wins the battle on the scoreboard. The talent level is too close to give teams extra opportunities.

Just ask yourself how many games this Texans team has lost due to turnovers this season - two games against Jacksonville - Arizona and against the Dolts - All of which were inside the opponents five yard line.

Take away any one of those turnovers and this Texans team is likely in the drivers seat for a playoff spot rather than needing help.

That's assuming the player will keep fumbling. Ineffective running leads to the same outcome as fumbling---the other team gets the ball. Punt, fumble, the outcome is the same, the only difference is field position.

TimeKiller
12-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Brown looked like Tarzan and played like Jane in Tennessee as well. He was also Mr. Glass in Tennessee, somehow he stayed healthy this year...


Lucky us huh?

I think Arian's got the capability of being a solid combo back. What I mean is I wouldn't ever expect him to "carry the load" as a superstar feature back but as the "big bruiser" back we've all wanted to compliment Mr Slaton's speed/agility running I think he's an excellent choice. The guy reads the holes well, he may not have the fastest feet but he sure can put it to a defender who gets in the way. You can never have too many positive players at running back and he's a big positive (at least, compared to CB and Slaton's sophomore slump)

ATXtexanfan
12-28-2009, 02:50 PM
he's on the roster next year but hopefully as a back up. Is there anyone coming out in the draft worthy of a 1st rd pick?

Corrosion
12-28-2009, 04:52 PM
That's assuming the player will keep fumbling. Ineffective running leads to the same outcome as fumbling---the other team gets the ball. Punt, fumble, the outcome is the same, the only difference is field position.

Each of the turnovers I listed was in the opponents red zone , in fact they were all within the opponents five yard line - Those were game changers , they took points off the board.


A fumble at your own 20 is not equal to a punt from your 20 , neither is a fumble at your 40 equal to a punt from that same spot - Field position plays a large part in the NFL. Probably the second biggest issue outside of turnovers in a team scoring or not. Hell if you fumble at your 30 and the opponent goes 3 plays without gaining a single yard they kick a 47 yard FG on 4th down.

Sure an ineffective running game makes it more difficult to move the ball but giving up a short field due to a turnover is the worst possible outcome other than that turnover going directly for a score.

How many fumbles did Slaton have prior to being benched ? Seven. That was at the time more than any player in the NFL other than Matt Cassel.

At what point does fumbling become a problem ? When its convenient for us as fans to point at the coach and say he should have held the player accountable ?

JWarren14
12-28-2009, 04:57 PM
Foster looked a hell of a lot better than Brown and Moats tore it up. That move when he caught that pass in the flat I was sitting there thinking...

"Damn it Matt, you are going to get Moats killed..." Then he caught it and spun off the "Hitstick" tackle and gained more yards.

Moats, Foster, Brown

It also helped us out a lot that Channing Crowder got injured early on.

TigerWoods..Not
12-30-2009, 10:21 AM
I think Foster would be successful sharing carries with someone else like Dallas does. I'm not sure if he's a 20-25 carry-type back.

Section516
12-30-2009, 10:46 AM
IIRC, Wasn't Foster a first to second round pick if he came out a year earlier? Injuries are a *WORD INSERTED HERE*.