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Kaiser Toro
12-18-2009, 09:34 AM
The Redskins and former Broncos coach Mike Shanahan have begun talks over Washington's head-coaching position, The Denver Post has reported, a day after the team hired a new general manager.

The Redskins on Thursday hired Bruce Allen, the son of late Redskins Hall of Fame coach George Allen, after Vinny Cerrato abruptly resigned.

Allen maintained Jim Zorn was still the Redskins' coach.

"Give us some time to see how our relationship develops," Allen said.

Zorn's job status is believed to be tenuous with the Redskins' record at 4-9 and three games to play.

The Redskins host the rival New York Giants on Monday night.

The Broncos fired Shanahan after last season. He won Super Bowls in 1997 and '98 during his 14 seasons as coach. But Denver failed to advance to the playoffs for the third straight year.

It's uncertain how much leeway Allen will have to make the final call about the coach or the roster.

Neither he nor owner Dan Snyder would give details of their working agreement, but Snyder indicated that Allen will have more autonomy than some of the owner's previous front office hires.

"Obviously, Bruce has got the authority," Snyder said. "And when he makes a decision, the club makes a decision, it's a Redskins decision. ... I've not been as involved as people may have thought. In terms of the future, obviously we're going to be counting on Bruce to help lead the way."

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4753860

Thorn
12-18-2009, 09:39 AM
Zorn's predicament reminds me of Kubiaks, especially since they look so much alike.

HoustonFrog
12-18-2009, 09:42 AM
Shanahan will be here or Dallas. I also think both owners can get Chucky out of his newly signed announcing gig. Reports in Dallas is if Wade goes, they want one of those two.

Kaiser Toro
12-18-2009, 09:42 AM
Zorn's predicament reminds me of Kubiaks, especially since they look so much alike.

Little Shanny moves to the Redskins and then we bring in another OC? This very possible move helps with the Kubiak purge should we get to that point.

Thorn
12-18-2009, 09:53 AM
Little Shanny moves to the Redskins and then we bring in another OC? This very possible move helps with the Kubiak purge should we get to that point.

Do you really think Little Shanny goes to work for Daddy? I just don't see that. Although if it did happen, I can tell you I'd be closely following the 'Skins next year to check it out. I always love cheering for the team playing the Cowpatties, it would be interesting to actually have a team in that division that I actually follow. Right now, I don't really care anything about the other three teams in the Cowturds division.

Speaking of which, what is Little Shanny's contract situation? Anyone have any info on that?

Kaiser Toro
12-18-2009, 09:59 AM
Do you really think Little Shanny goes to work for Daddy? I just don't see that. Although if it did happen, I can tell you I'd be closely following the 'Skins next year to check it out. I always love cheering for the team playing the Cowpatties, it would be interesting to actually have a team in that division that I actually follow. Right now, I don't really care anything about the other three teams in the Cowturds division.

Speaking of which, what is Little Shanny's contract situation? Anyone have any info on that?

I have not seen anything on the contract, but have never seen that as a detractor for coordinators to move on. Moreover, we have had three OC's in Kubiak's four years.

kastofsna
12-18-2009, 10:11 AM
i'm not sure how well Bruce Allen and Gruden got along. they certainly didn't do any drafting or signing like they had any connection at all

hookinreds
12-19-2009, 11:51 AM
Mort was just saying on ESPN that Allen was hinting that Lil Shanny is expected to go to Washington if daddy gets the job.

OzzO
12-19-2009, 12:28 PM
I thought junior wanted to get out of dad's shadow and make it on his own, that's why he went to another team to go through the ranks.

barrett
12-19-2009, 03:44 PM
It's possible that his supercharged passing offense shines well enough cast a bit of a shadow of his own.

Having said that,

I just don't see it. To me, unless he's going to get a OC/AsstHC title with big time Snyder money I don't see how it's a step forward. If anything it is a step sideways and slightly back. I just don't see dear ol' dad giving him the kind of freedom he probably expects from Kubiak. It's speculation, but seems logical enough to me that he stays here.

drewmar74
12-19-2009, 04:03 PM
I see it the other way.

Old Shanny will see that Li'l Shanny has done a good job here.

Li'l Shanny knows that Kubes isn't likely to relinquish full control of the Denny's menu any time soon.

Li'l Shanny bolts to go play with Dad because Dad will let him hold the Denny's menu and order what he wants off of it.

infantrycak
12-19-2009, 04:14 PM
I see it the other way.

Old Shanny will see that Li'l Shanny has done a good job here.

Li'l Shanny knows that Kubes isn't likely to relinquish full control of the Denny's menu any time soon.

Li'l Shanny bolts to go play with Dad because Dad will let him hold the Denny's menu and order what he wants off of it.

Kubiak is doing exactly what Shanahan did with him as OC. And what is with all the carping about the play sheet? Every team has one and if the HC is offensive minded they usually carry them.

ObsiWan
12-19-2009, 05:02 PM
Kubiak is doing exactly what Shanahan did with him as OC. And what is with all the carping about the play sheet? Every team has one and if the HC is offensive minded they usually carry them.

I don't get that either. Belichick has his game sheets. I've never seen Sean Payton without his "Denny's Menu" and they're 13-0. Those "Denny's menu" digs are plain just silly.

Fred
12-19-2009, 07:44 PM
I don't get that either. Belichick has his game sheets. I've never seen Sean Payton without his "Denny's Menu" and they're 13-0. Those "Denny's menu" digs are plain just silly.

You are right, but I think it's also silly the way they hold them up in front of their mouth when they talk. Your play calling isn't that good that anyone other that Belcheat is going to read your lips. And he has probably already has a scanner locked in on your radio channel.

I don't think it helps Lil Shanny to work for Daddy. Unless Kubiak gets soaped, I think he stays here.

steelbtexan
12-19-2009, 07:54 PM
Lil Shanny has more job secuity in Washington than in Houston.

Snyder will probably give him more money and promised him the HC job. If things go well and in a few years when Shanny Sr retires.

If he doesn't get a HC job with another team in a couple of years.

Silver Oak
12-19-2009, 09:16 PM
I think Jerry Jones hires his offensive coordinators first, then he hires his head coaches.