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Air Canada
12-13-2009, 05:58 PM
Hey it can still happen, but we need some things to play out for us....

The Eagles needed similar things to happen to make the playoffs when they were struggling last year. They went 9-6-1 to get in.

There situation was

■The Eagles were mathematically eliminated from winning the division, so they had to take one of the two wild card spots to get in.
■They had to win the last 3 games to get in.
■The final 3 spots came down to the Eagles, Cowboys, Bucs, Panthers and Falcons. They had to look at the 7-6 Redskins, Saints and Bears to see if it is possible for them to make it a 9-6-1 and needed them all to lose.

The got lucky, got in and had a deep run in the postseason. Can't we?

jaayteetx
12-13-2009, 06:23 PM
In a word.....nope.

theanswer000
12-13-2009, 06:28 PM
It is still a possibility but Idk. Can you see us beating Miami and New England?

Khari
12-13-2009, 06:28 PM
if we make it will somebody buy me a texans santa hat?

FirstTexansFan
12-13-2009, 06:28 PM
In a word.....nope.

:goodpost:

treduke
12-13-2009, 06:35 PM
eagles got lucky plain and simple but stranger things have happened.
but let's not start making plans for the playoffs just yet!

Kimmy
12-13-2009, 06:48 PM
Hey it can still happen, but we need some things to play out for us....

The Eagles needed similar things to happen to make the playoffs when they were struggling last year. They went 9-6-1 to get in.

There situation was

■The Eagles were mathematically eliminated from winning the division, so they had to take one of the two wild card spots to get in.
■They had to win the last 3 games to get in.
■The final 3 spots came down to the Eagles, Cowboys, Bucs, Panthers and Falcons. They had to look at the 7-6 Redskins, Saints and Bears to see if it is possible for them to make it a 9-6-1 and needed them all to lose.

The got lucky, got in and had a deep run in the postseason. Can't we?

That's the difference between the NFC and AFC ... AFC has stronger teams to get past

PapaL
12-13-2009, 06:50 PM
Not a snow ball's chance in Iraq.

brakos82
12-13-2009, 06:55 PM
Not a snow ball's chance in Iraq.
It's snowed there before.

Wolf
12-13-2009, 06:57 PM
i had to do it
http://msp73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/aykis16/playoffs.jpg

:joker:

TEXANRED
12-13-2009, 06:57 PM
Only if we collectively all sell our souls to the devil.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8147d1c0&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true

Wolf
12-13-2009, 07:08 PM
Only if we collectively all sell our souls to the devil.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8147d1c0&template=no-right-rail-with-comments&confirm=true

not sure if that would be enough compared to Peyton
http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2006/09/18/peyton-manning-is-evil/

Thorn
12-13-2009, 07:10 PM
The Texans won't be in the playoffs this year. Get over it. But they do have three games left to play, which is better that say......February through August.

Norg
12-13-2009, 07:12 PM
Jets and esp the ravens won nothing has changed

Vinny
12-13-2009, 07:36 PM
my playoff hopes died when they couldn't beat one playoff caliber or semi-playoff caliber team in the last month.

Hooston Texan
12-13-2009, 09:34 PM
To have any semi-realistic hope, we must win out to finish 9-7. Here's who we're competing against:

Your current wildcards
Denver 8-5
Jacksonville 7-6
Denver still has Oakland and KC at home (and Philly on the road). In all likelihood, they are finishing at least 10-6. So they're one wildcard (or division champ if San Diego does a complete nose-dive).
Because we were swept by the Jags, they own the tiebreak. So we'll need them to lose twice. But they've got a tough closing schedule: Indy, at NE, at Cleveland. I think we'll get the losses we need from them.

Here's the other teams also in the hunt
N.Y.Jets 7-6
They own the tiebreaker over us because of week 1, so we need two losses. They close Atlanta, at Indy, Cincy. Another tough closing kick; hopefully the Colts and Bengals still have something to play for (though, for Indy, it may just be for an unbeaten season)

Miami 7-6
They're closing schedule is irrelevant to us aside from, of course, our game. If we win that one (and the other two), then Miami won't be the team to keep us out--we'll both be 9-7 and we'll have the tiebreaker. They could still get into the playoffs if we are in a three-way tiebreaker with, say, the Jets, but we'll need the Jets to finish 8-8 or worse under any scenario that would get us in.

Baltimore 7-6
This is the team that probably keeps a 9-7 Texan team out of the playoffs. If Baltimore finishes 2-1 for a 9-7 record, they'll own the tiebreaker over us because of a better conference record. So we need them to lose twice, but here's their closing: Chicago, at Pittsburgh, at Oakland.

Pittsburgh 6-7
I'm not sure how a tiebreaker would shake out between us and the Steelers because we'd both have the same conference record (6-6) if we finish 9-7. But with the way they are playing and their closing schedule, a 3-0 finish is unlikely: Green Bay, Baltimore, at Miami. And we'll need them to beat the Ravens if we are to have any realistic hope.

Tennessee 6-7
If we both get to 9-7, we'll own the tiebreaker because of a better conference record (6-6 versus 5-7). Like Miami, what they do from here on our is irrelevant to our playoff hopes.

One other team that may be worth watching:
New England 8-5
They currently lead the East, but only by a game over Miami and, more importantly for us, the Jets. If the Jets pass them (and we beat them), then we'll own the tiebreaker. But for the Jets to pull the trick off, they must lose once; but for us to then catch them, they'll need to lose twice. They close: at Buffalo, Jacksonville, at Houston. Of course, if they lose to the Jags, then that would knock us out Cleveland beats them in week 17.

If you want to know the most likely scenario, here it is:
Week 15
1. We beat St. Louis (if we can't beat the Rams, playoff are the least of our worries)
2. Indy beats the Jags (pretty much mandatory)
3. Atlanta beats the Jets (not mandatory, but most helpful)
4. Chicago beats Baltimore
5. Green Bay beats Pittsburgh (though this may not matter at all)

Week 16
1. We beat Miami
2. Pittsburgh beats Baltimore (pretty close to mandatory)
3. NE beats the Jags
4. Indy beats the Jets

Week 17
1. We beat New England
2. If the Jets have lost to either Atlanta or Indy (but not both), then Cincy beats the Jets.
3. If Baltimore has only lost one more game, then Oakland over Baltimore.

Piece of cake, right???

awtysst
12-13-2009, 10:07 PM
if we make it will somebody buy me a texans santa hat?

Done.

tedr
12-13-2009, 10:13 PM
Tennessee 6-7
If we both get to 9-7, we'll own the tiebreaker because of a better conference record (6-6 versus 5-7). Like Miami, what they do from here on our is irrelevant to our playoff hopes.

I wish the above was true, but, unfortunately, since we're in the same division, after head-to-head, division record is the next tiebreaker, even if it's for a wildcard, and not the division.

That said, I don't think the Titans will run the table. If they do, they probably deserve to get the last spot.

awtysst
12-13-2009, 10:21 PM
So coming into today, the Texans needed to sweep their games and get some luck. They had a 0.56% chance of making the playoffs.

Now, lets see where they are now. Again, I am saying there is a 50:50 chance per game. So, they have a .125 of winning all three games.

Tennessee: won by 40. So we still need at least 1 loss. This would be .875

Steelers: still .875

Dolphins: won. need 2 losses of 3=0.50

Jets: won. also need 2 losses=0.5

Ravens won: also 0.5

Jags: 0.5

Texans:=0.68%

thunderkyss
12-13-2009, 10:41 PM
Texans:=0.68%

The point is we're still mathematically alive.

We need to root for our team to win, because even though it is unlikely that we'll get in, these games aren't meaningless.

Norg
12-13-2009, 10:54 PM
Balty is the team that scares me


Balty and the Jags control there own destiny all they need 2 do is win

sakebomb
12-14-2009, 08:06 AM
The bottom line is that the Texans must learn how to win games in their division. We do that then we will start realistically challenging for playoff spots.

BIG TORO
12-14-2009, 08:43 AM
Balty is the team that scares me


Balty and the Jags control there own destiny all they need 2 do is win

I agree the biggest problem is baltimore loosing two games and there playing chicago, pitts, and oakland, they might win out the rest of the season!

BIG TORO
12-14-2009, 09:25 AM
Anything Can Happen!


Teams................Losses needed..............Teams to Play

Jacksonville..................2................... .....Indy, New England, Cleveland

Steelers.......................1.................. ......Green Bay, Baltimore, Miami

Baltimore......................2.................. ......Chicago, Pittsburg, Oakland

Jets.............................2................ ........Atlana, Indy, Cincinnati

Miami...........................2................. .......Titans, Texans, Pittsburg

Titans..........................1................. .......Miami, San diego, Seattle

If all this happens and we beat the RAMS, Dolphins, and Patriots we are in the playoffs

HoustonFrog
12-14-2009, 09:27 AM
No. The reason why is the Dolphins. Not because of their position with the Texans. But because of their position with NE. The Texans play the Dolphins and then will play a NE team that has to win for their own division. NE isn't what they used to be but I don't see the Texans beating the Dolphins and NE.

tedr
12-14-2009, 09:36 AM
Anything Can Happen!


Teams................Losses needed..............Teams to Play

Jacksonville..................2................... .....Indy, New England, Cleveland

Steelers.......................1.................. ......Green Bay, Baltimore, Miami

Baltimore......................2.................. ......Chicago, Pittsburg, Oakland

Jets.............................2................ ........Atlana, Indy, Cincinnati

Miami...........................2................. .......Titans, Texans, Pittsburg

Titans..........................1................. .......Miami, San diego, Seattle

If all this happens and we beat the RAMS, Dolphins, and Patriots we are in the playoffs

Thanks for the information. However, if we beat Miami, we wouldn't need them to lose another game, right?

BIG TORO
12-14-2009, 09:41 AM
Thanks for the information. However, if we beat Miami, we wouldn't need them to lose another game, right?

No we need to beat Miami and they need to loose to either Titans or Pittsburg

Ghostform
12-14-2009, 09:42 AM
some people cannot accept the fact that we are out of the playoff race and just playing spoiler.

BIG TORO
12-14-2009, 09:43 AM
some people cannot accept the fact that we are out of the playoff race and just playing spoiler.

Just stating the FACTS!

Runner
12-14-2009, 10:00 AM
This scenario is being made to sound somehow more plausible than it would have been for the Texans to win two of those four division games they had in weeks 9-13 and really set themselves up for a playoff run.

I don't know what's sadder - being forced to grab at this final straw, or the fact that this scenario really was the more likely to occur.

tedr
12-14-2009, 10:50 AM
No we need to beat Miami and they need to loose to either Titans or Pittsburg

Why? We would hold the first tiebreaker advantage over them- head to head.

HOU-TEX
12-14-2009, 10:58 AM
Have we ever had a 4 game winning streak in our existence? :spit:

To me, our playoff chances died after the titans game.

Side note: All the players saying they're coming together and playing for the team after an inspirational speech by Kubiak in week 14 is par for the course.

bckey
12-14-2009, 11:16 AM
This scenario is being made to sound somehow more plausible than it would have been for the Texans to win two of those four division games they had in weeks 9-13 and really set themselves up for a playoff run.

I don't know what's sadder - being forced to grab at this final straw, or the fact that this scenario really was the more likely occur.

I'm not even thinking about grabbing the always elusive Texan playoff straw. Most fans have enough sense to know that the Texans are not going anywhere. This was by far the easiest schedule for them and the most talent that they have ever fielded and they blew it. No pressure any more so win away against the Seahawks and Rams and feel good about yourselves. You should have taken care of business when it mattered. Four division losses in a row. Wow. As long as Kubiak and the Texans continue to lose against the AFC South they will always be mired in mediocrity and out of playoff contention. Mathmatically alive only to give those diehard koolaid drinkers a rallying cry.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/Delta105/Fatguybump.gif

BIG TORO
12-14-2009, 12:03 PM
Why? We would hold the first tiebreaker advantage over them- head to head.

you know i didnt think about that so I think your right

MannyFresh
12-14-2009, 12:51 PM
Ummm, neh.

PHAROAH
12-14-2009, 01:25 PM
Wishful thinking but no way.

ktplaya
12-14-2009, 02:25 PM
The team with the easiest schedule is baltimore everybody else I think can lose what we need them to

barrett
12-14-2009, 02:34 PM
I think the biggest kink may end up being that Indy can actually start sitting their players now. They play several of the teams that we need to have loose 1 or more games and if they're playing a 3rd string QB that could become more difficult.

edit:
Caldwell said "healthy" starters would play Thursday. He plans to revisit the debate for each of the final two games.

So that should help us for at least 1 more week.


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d814f7b15&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Kaiser Toro
12-14-2009, 02:51 PM
I am very disappointed in this season to date, especially the coaching. However, that does not take away from the novelty of this being the first time I have been able to look in the paper after week 13 and still be mathematically in the playoff race.

In those darkest of hours a small light at the end of the tunnel is priceless. :bubbles:

Dread-Head
12-14-2009, 04:25 PM
i had to do it
http://msp73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/aykis16/playoffs.jpg

:joker:

You sonnava...:lol: alright. You beat me to it. Well played sir.

dalemurphy
12-14-2009, 04:52 PM
Anything Can Happen!


Teams................Losses needed..............Teams to Play

Jacksonville..................2................... .....Indy, New England, Cleveland

Steelers.......................1.................. ......Green Bay, Baltimore, Miami

Baltimore......................2.................. ......Chicago, Pittsburg, Oakland

Jets.............................2................ ........Atlana, Indy, Cincinnati

Miami...........................2................. .......Titans, Texans, Pittsburg
Titans..........................1................. .......Miami, San diego, Seattle

If all this happens and we beat the RAMS, Dolphins, and Patriots we are in the playoffs

If we beat Miami, we'd have the head to head against them, even if they win the other two games. So, I don't think they have to lose another one.

Texecutioner
12-14-2009, 05:28 PM
I'm not even thinking about grabbing the always elusive Texan playoff straw. Most fans have enough sense to know that the Texans are not going anywhere. This was by far the easiest schedule for them and the most talent that they have ever fielded and they blew it. No pressure any more so win away against the Seahawks and Rams and feel good about yourselves. You should have taken care of business when it mattered. Four division losses in a row. Wow. As long as Kubiak and the Texans continue to lose against the AFC South they will always be mired in mediocrity and out of playoff contention. Mathmatically alive only to give those diehard koolaid drinkers a rallying cry.

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/Delta105/Fatguybump.gif

This right here. ^^^^^^^^^^

PapaL
12-14-2009, 07:52 PM
It's snowed there before.

snowBALL :kitten:

not snow :snowday:

brakos82
12-14-2009, 07:55 PM
snowBALL :kitten:

not snow :snowday:

I bet Warren Moon can throw a snowball through Iraq without it melting.

Giant Tiger
12-14-2009, 09:16 PM
Anything Can Happen!


Teams................Losses needed..............Teams to Play

Jacksonville..................2................... .....Indy, New England, Cleveland

Steelers.......................1.................. ......Green Bay, Baltimore, Miami

Baltimore......................2.................. ......Chicago, Pittsburg, Oakland

Jets.............................2................ ........Atlana, Indy, Cincinnati

Miami...........................2................. .......Titans, Texans, Pittsburg

Titans..........................1................. .......Miami, San diego, Seattle

If all this happens and we beat the RAMS, Dolphins, and Patriots we are in the playoffs

Isn't there another longshot? What if Baltimore wins their last 3 to finish 10-6 & Cincinnati loses out & finishes 9-7? Don't we own the tie-breaker over Cincinnati? If they lose to San Diego, that's 2 losses in a row. Who do they play before the Jets? The Jets would have to lose their first 2, then beat Cincinnati, but this is possible.

theanswer000
12-14-2009, 09:31 PM
Idk this is all so complicated we arent really going to know what is going on till we beat the dolphins. The last week of the season is when we would get in anyways if it happens.

awtysst
12-14-2009, 09:33 PM
i had to do it
http://msp73.photobucket.com/albums/i201/aykis16/playoffs.jpg

:joker:

Wait a minute, isn't posting this picture my job?!

tedr
12-15-2009, 11:10 AM
Isn't there another longshot? What if Baltimore wins their last 3 to finish 10-6 & Cincinnati loses out & finishes 9-7? Don't we own the tie-breaker over Cincinnati? If they lose to San Diego, that's 2 losses in a row. Who do they play before the Jets? The Jets would have to lose their first 2, then beat Cincinnati, but this is possible.

The Bengals play KC at Cincy in game 15, so not much chance of a loss there, but you never know.

However, there is a scenario where the Jets would only have to lose one game. Here's how.

If the Jets lose one more game they'll finish 9-7. If the Dolphins only lose to the Texans, they'll be 9-7 as well. Let's say that those two teams, along with the Texans, tie for the last spot. NFL tiebreaking procedures say that the first step is eliminating all but the highest ranked team in each division. The Texans, being the only team from the AFC South, would represent that division. Since the Dolphins swept the Jets, they would represent the East. Then, since the Jets have been eliminated, the tiebreaking procedures would revert back to the two-team format. Since the Texans would have defeated the Dolphins, they would advance as the wildcard.

Not the most likely of scenarios, but you never know.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

dbruder44
12-15-2009, 05:56 PM
To have any semi-realistic hope, we must win out to finish 9-7. Here's who we're competing against:

Your current wildcards
Denver 8-5
Jacksonville 7-6
Denver still has Oakland and KC at home (and Philly on the road). In all likelihood, they are finishing at least 10-6. So they're one wildcard (or division champ if San Diego does a complete nose-dive).
Because we were swept by the Jags, they own the tiebreak. So we'll need them to lose twice. But they've got a tough closing schedule: Indy, at NE, at Cleveland. I think we'll get the losses we need from them.

Here's the other teams also in the hunt
N.Y.Jets 7-6
They own the tiebreaker over us because of week 1, so we need two losses. They close Atlanta, at Indy, Cincy. Another tough closing kick; hopefully the Colts and Bengals still have something to play for (though, for Indy, it may just be for an unbeaten season)

Miami 7-6
They're closing schedule is irrelevant to us aside from, of course, our game. If we win that one (and the other two), then Miami won't be the team to keep us out--we'll both be 9-7 and we'll have the tiebreaker. They could still get into the playoffs if we are in a three-way tiebreaker with, say, the Jets, but we'll need the Jets to finish 8-8 or worse under any scenario that would get us in.

Baltimore 7-6
This is the team that probably keeps a 9-7 Texan team out of the playoffs. If Baltimore finishes 2-1 for a 9-7 record, they'll own the tiebreaker over us because of a better conference record. So we need them to lose twice, but here's their closing: Chicago, at Pittsburgh, at Oakland.

Pittsburgh 6-7
I'm not sure how a tiebreaker would shake out between us and the Steelers because we'd both have the same conference record (6-6) if we finish 9-7. But with the way they are playing and their closing schedule, a 3-0 finish is unlikely: Green Bay, Baltimore, at Miami. And we'll need them to beat the Ravens if we are to have any realistic hope.

Tennessee 6-7
If we both get to 9-7, we'll own the tiebreaker because of a better conference record (6-6 versus 5-7). Like Miami, what they do from here on our is irrelevant to our playoff hopes.

One other team that may be worth watching:
New England 8-5
They currently lead the East, but only by a game over Miami and, more importantly for us, the Jets. If the Jets pass them (and we beat them), then we'll own the tiebreaker. But for the Jets to pull the trick off, they must lose once; but for us to then catch them, they'll need to lose twice. They close: at Buffalo, Jacksonville, at Houston. Of course, if they lose to the Jags, then that would knock us out Cleveland beats them in week 17.

If you want to know the most likely scenario, here it is:
Week 15
1. We beat St. Louis (if we can't beat the Rams, playoff are the least of our worries)
2. Indy beats the Jags (pretty much mandatory)
3. Atlanta beats the Jets (not mandatory, but most helpful)
4. Chicago beats Baltimore
5. Green Bay beats Pittsburgh (though this may not matter at all)

Week 16
1. We beat Miami
2. Pittsburgh beats Baltimore (pretty close to mandatory)
3. NE beats the Jags
4. Indy beats the Jets

Week 17
1. We beat New England
2. If the Jets have lost to either Atlanta or Indy (but not both), then Cincy beats the Jets.
3. If Baltimore has only lost one more game, then Oakland over Baltimore.

Piece of cake, right???

I'd like to see Miami beat Tennessee this week, if for no other reason than to get Tenn out of the way. If we beat Miami, that takes care of our tiebreaker with the Dolphins.

Honestly, the only two teams that we're competing with that have to have two more losses are the Jags and Ravens. In a three way tie for the last wildcard between the Texans, Dolphins, and Jets at 9-7, we'd get the spot, because:

...according to the NFL tiebreaking procedures, in the above situation, all but the top team from each division is eliminated first (using divisional tiebreakers). Since Miami swept the Jets, Miami would come from the East and we would be from the South (assuming the Jags and Titans have more than 7 losses each). Since we would have the head-to-head advantage over the Dolphins, we'd get the spot.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Clear as mud, huh?

Insideop
12-17-2009, 11:44 PM
I'd like to see Miami beat Tennessee this week, if for no other reason than to get Tenn out of the way. If we beat Miami, that takes care of our tiebreaker with the Dolphins.

Honestly, the only two teams that we're competing with that have to have two more losses are the Jags and Ravens. In a three way tie for the last wildcard between the Texans, Dolphins, and Jets at 9-7, we'd get the spot, because:

...according to the NFL tiebreaking procedures, in the above situation, all but the top team from each division is eliminated first (using divisional tiebreakers). Since Miami swept the Jets, Miami would come from the East and we would be from the South (assuming the Jags and Titans have more than 7 losses each). Since we would have the head-to-head advantage over the Dolphins, we'd get the spot.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

Clear as mud, huh?

Well, for those of us still clinging to a thread of hope, the first domino just fell. Indy beat Jac (35-31)! Wohoo! :yahoo::jumpbanan:wow::marionaner:

Now, if the rest of the dominos fall......

TheRealJoker
12-17-2009, 11:58 PM
If we can somehow make it to the playoffs I would consider this season a miracle given the circumstances!!!

I am rooting for New England to lose to Buffalo (keep them on their toes), beat Jax, then lose to us. This way, if the Jets win out they'd win the division title and we'd own the tiebreaker over NE and Miami assuming we win out.

Also hoping the Bengals lose out, if the Ravens win out they win the division and get the tiebreaker. If the Ravens lose one game however, not only do they not win the division, but they get the tiebreaker over us :(

I would like to see the Broncos close out the season with yet another four game losing streak. This way they're eliminated from the race which opens up another spot for us to compete to win which would give us some much needed breathing room. If they lose out we will not have to worry about Baltimore losing 2 out of 3.

Both the Baltimore and Denver scenarios are the most unlikely, but if either one occurs it greatly helps our chances!!!

Insideop
12-20-2009, 09:58 PM
More dominos fall! :yahoo:

If you want to know the most likely scenario, here it is:
Week 15
1. We beat St. Louis (if we can't beat the Rams, playoff are the least of our worries) Check
2. Indy beats the Jags (pretty much mandatory) Check
3. Atlanta beats the Jets (not mandatory, but most helpful) Check
4. Chicago beats Baltimore This didn't happen but Oakland beat Denver!
5. Green Bay beats Pittsburgh (though this may not matter at all) Doesn't matter.

Keep hope alive! :victory:

thunderkyss
12-20-2009, 11:00 PM
This was by far the easiest schedule for them and the most talent that they have ever fielded and they blew it.

Let's talk about that. This schedule was easy, because we played:
The Jets: we lost here.
The Bills: we took care of business here
The Seahawks: another win
The Rams: ugly, but a W
The Cardinals: we lost here.
The 49ers: another W
The Bengals: we Won
The Raiders: We Won

Those were the easy games on our schedule, and I think we did pretty well. 6-2.

& we'll play the Dolphins which also added to our "easy" schedule. So against our easy schedule, we're either going to be 7-2, or 6-3.

We all expected to split our games with Tennessee, which we did, & Jacksonville & Indianapolis. Which we didn't. I know, I know it really hurt that they were division games. 1-5 in that stretch isn't good at all.

The only "difficult" game we had is New England, & hopefully we'll win that one.

All I'm saying, is that we played the easy part of our schedule pretty well.

No pressure any more so win away against the Seahawks and Rams and feel good about yourselves. You should have taken care of business when it mattered.

I don't understand why you think there is no pressure. There is just as much pressure on this team to win the next two games as there is for the Denver Broncos. If either team loses out, neither is going to the play-offs. If Denver manages to win both games, then they are in. If the Texans win both games..... we might get in.

Four division losses in a row. Wow. As long as Kubiak and the Texans continue to lose against the AFC South they will always be mired in mediocrity and out of playoff contention.

I don't disagree. But no one should have thought any of our division games were easy. There are three good teams in this division. It took Tennessee 6 consecutive games to play like it, but they're a pretty good team.

Winnable, yes. but they didn't make our schedule any easier.

Mathmatically alive only to give those diehard koolaid drinkers a rallying cry.


It's not about drinking the Kool-Aid. It's about being realistic. If you thought we would go 10-6, I can understand your frustration. But if we finish 9-7, that's only a 1 game difference.

If you thought we would go 9-7 & miss the play offs, we're right on track. Unless you thought we would have 9 wins by now, & lose the next two games. But why would you want that?

If you thought we would finish 11-5, then you're just as crazy as me, & you drank way too much Kool-Aid in the pre-season.

Our performance in the division sucked. It's inexcusable, & unacceptable. But it does happen. Look at the Steelers (1-4). I know it doesn't make it right, but it's not the end of the world here either.

Lot's of people have wondered if we've turned the corner. The answer is no we haven't. But this is what it looks like, as we turn that corner. The only thing on the line now, is a winning season. & that's what these guys need to be playing for. To be winners.

A winning season might be meaningless to you. & if that attitude is the prevalent one in the locker room, then we've got a team full of losers.

Yes, they could have locked up a winning season by playing better in the division. But they didn't. Let's look forward, not backwards. & like someone else said, we'll let the decisions that need to be made in the offseason be made in the off season.

& the play-offs would just be a bonus, if we somehow or 'nother get lucky & slip in.

tedr
12-20-2009, 11:12 PM
If we win next week (a huge if), the only way we're eliminated is if Denver, Cincinnati, and Baltimore all win. Denver's at Philly (Philly still has a lot to play for), Cincinnati has KC at home (not too much hope there), and Baltimore is at Pittsburgh (that should be a war).

As far as everyone else, I think it shapes up all right. Jacksonville is at NE (hopefully NE will play everyone- they might still have a chance for a bye), Tennessee's at home vs. San Diego (the Chargers still need a win to wrap up a bye), and the Jets are at Indy (I imagine the Colts will play it like they did Thursday).

The playoffs are still an incredible long shot, but we got some help today. If we go into the NE game with at least a shot, that's at least better than most people would have thought a couple of weeks ago.

utahmark
12-20-2009, 11:21 PM
we go into the last week of the season with a shot(however slim) of making the playoffs and we do our job and beat the pats. i will feel a lot better about this football team as a whole and will not consider this season a total loss. it would be a fun sunday and that is why i watch football.

Norg
12-21-2009, 12:37 AM
balty and Pitts and tenn all winning today didnt help our case


i said in the Off season that divison strecth would define our season


@indy
bye
vs Tenn
vs Indy
@ Jags

we obviously belw hard all 4 super close games but we were not clutch enough

dalemurphy
12-21-2009, 12:57 AM
As I understand the situation, here are the ways that we can make the playoffs:

First, the Texans must win their last 2 games and Tennessee must lose one game, then the following must happen:

AT least 2 of these things:
1. Denver lose last 2 games
2. Cincinnati lose last 2 games and Baltimore win last 2 games
3. Baltimore lose last 2 games
4. Jags lose one game

... also, we can't end in a tie alone with the NYJets, so they either need to lose one or we need to be in a three-way tie with them but not tied with Jacksonville or Tennessee or Baltimore or Denver.

So, there's a good chance that the Jags drop one more. While the other three scenarios aren't likely, individually, the fact that there are 3 of them make it a distinct possibility.

I'm just happy that we're playing a meaningful game at Miami next Sunday.

ChrisG
12-21-2009, 02:01 AM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/standings/playoffrace/seeds

Every team in "the hunt" is now 7-7. The two wildcards are held by 2 8-6 teams. To bad we screwed up our division record, but w/e I can be optimistic for 2 more weeks

texanskan
12-21-2009, 03:34 AM
Looking at things from a realistic standpoint the Texans best shot will be to win 2 and Denver lose 2

There are multiple scenarios but the one that has the best shot is all of the 7-7 teams losing and the Broncos losing at Phili and then the last week would come down to us winning and them losing at home vs KC (division game) which of course they will be favored in.

In this senario

SD wins at Ten eliminating Ten
Texans beat Miami eliminating Mia
NE beats Jac eliminating Jac
Ind beats NYJ eliminating NYJ
Balt beats Pitt eliminating Pitt (if Pitt finished 9-7 they WILL have tie-breaker)

Denver loses at Phili

Ind
SD
Cinci
NE

wildcard

Balt 9-6
Denver 8-7
Houston 8-7

Top 5 spots are filled

Denver beats KC in week 17 they are in
Texans need to beat NE and then have Denver lose

Grams
12-21-2009, 07:25 AM
Looking at things from a realistic standpoint the Texans best shot will be to win 2 and Denver lose 2

There are multiple scenarios but the one that has the best shot is all of the 7-7 teams losing and the Broncos losing at Phili and then the last week would come down to us winning and them losing at home vs KC (division game) which of course they will be favored in.

In this senario

SD wins at Ten eliminating Ten
Texans beat Miami eliminating Mia
NE beats Jac eliminating Jac
Ind beats NYJ eliminating NYJ
Balt beats Pitt eliminating Pitt (if Pitt finished 9-7 they WILL have tie-breaker)

Denver loses at Phili

Ind
SD
Cinci
NE

wildcard

Balt 9-6
Denver 8-7
Houston 8-7

Top 5 spots are filled

Denver beats KC in week 17 they are in
Texans need to beat NE and then have Denver lose

Weirder thing have happened.

utahmark
12-21-2009, 01:26 PM
Looking at things from a realistic standpoint the Texans best shot will be to win 2 and Denver lose 2

There are multiple scenarios but the one that has the best shot is all of the 7-7 teams losing and the Broncos losing at Phili and then the last week would come down to us winning and them losing at home vs KC (division game) which of course they will be favored in.

In this senario

SD wins at Ten eliminating Ten
Texans beat Miami eliminating Mia
NE beats Jac eliminating Jac
Ind beats NYJ eliminating NYJ
Balt beats Pitt eliminating Pitt (if Pitt finished 9-7 they WILL have tie-breaker)

Denver loses at Phili

Ind
SD
Cinci
NE

wildcard

Balt 9-6
Denver 8-7
Houston 8-7

Top 5 spots are filled

Denver beats KC in week 17 they are in
Texans need to beat NE and then have Denver lose

you sure about that. from what i saw reading the tiebreaking rules. we would have the tiebreaker. we would have the same conference record and then we would win based on wins vs common opponents.

TheRealJoker
12-21-2009, 01:35 PM
We'll be rooting for KC the next 2 weeks:

If they can beat Cincy its very likely Cincy drops their last game to the Jets and if Baltimore runs the table they get the division and we get the tiebreaker over Cincy for a wildcard.

If they can beat Denver, who will most likely lose to Philly then Denver is out of the hunt.

If KC can somehow find a way to engineer two upsets, which would be a miracle we are very likely in the playoffs as long as we take care of business. If they can even get one upset victory then we stand as good a chance as anyone else in the hunt for that last wildcard.

Second Honeymoon
12-21-2009, 04:43 PM
We'll be rooting for KC the next 2 weeks:

If they can beat Cincy its very likely Cincy drops their last game to the Jets and if Baltimore runs the table they get the division and we get the tiebreaker over Cincy for a wildcard.

If they can beat Denver, who will most likely lose to Philly then Denver is out of the hunt.

If KC can somehow find a way to engineer two upsets, which would be a miracle we are very likely in the playoffs as long as we take care of business. If they can even get one upset victory then we stand as good a chance as anyone else in the hunt for that last wildcard.

i wouldn't go that far. teams like denver, baltimore, and cincy get in with just one win. The raiders aren't beating the ravens. Ray just aint gonna let that happen. Denver and Cincy are the ones to look at as possible prey.

Our best chance is of course, to win out and then hope Denver collapses. Cincy still looked pretty good yesterday and should have no problem picking up a win between the Chiefs and Jets. If they lose to the Chiefs in front of their own fans in a playoff race, I would be really surprised.

Denver could do the deed though. They actually could lose their final two games. They are going to get beat by Philly next week and would need a win at home vs. the Chiefs. The Chiefs would come in fired up and ready to go. Divisional rivalries are always special and Denver looks very suspect right now, much moreso than Cincy does.

The worst thing would be for all of that to happen and the Titans win out. The Titans would punk us after starting 0-6. That would be a truly ***** move put on us.

imho, its all for naught. if we play like we did yesterday against the Rams we will get rolled by the Dolphins and the Patriots. that was one of the most flat performances of all time aside from Schaub to AJ. I was born in STL and have a lot of roots there but their fans were embarassingly mute. It didn't even sound like an NFL game. i thought I was watching the UFL. I hope that the pathetic atmosphere contributed to the Texans pathetic peformance because there will be plenty of NFL atmosphere in their last two games.

Miami is going to be rocking and I hope the players don't go out too late on South Beach. They need to be ready for a dogfight because Miami is going to come out with a monster sized chip on their shoulder. The refs gave the Dolphins the game yesterday with that chicken **** late hit by Camarillo on the fumble recovery. The refs did a horrible job in not being sufficiently demonstrative on blowing the play dead and did an even worse job not overruling that 15-yard penalty.. It was Henne's fault throwing the pick but the extra 15 put them in field goal range and they let them get no closer. It probably helped the Texans playoff chances but I thought it was a total BS call especially in Overtime. As an official, I hate to see games outcomes determined by officiating.

theanswer000
12-21-2009, 04:47 PM
Looking at things from a realistic standpoint the Texans best shot will be to win 2 and Denver lose 2

There are multiple scenarios but the one that has the best shot is all of the 7-7 teams losing and the Broncos losing at Phili and then the last week would come down to us winning and them losing at home vs KC (division game) which of course they will be favored in.

In this senario

SD wins at Ten eliminating Ten
Texans beat Miami eliminating Mia
NE beats Jac eliminating Jac
Ind beats NYJ eliminating NYJ
Balt beats Pitt eliminating Pitt (if Pitt finished 9-7 they WILL have tie-breaker)

Denver loses at Phili

Ind
SD
Cinci
NE

wildcard

Balt 9-6
Denver 8-7
Houston 8-7

Top 5 spots are filled

Denver beats KC in week 17 they are in
Texans need to beat NE and then have Denver lose

Hopefully is all happens. We would be going to Cincy if that happened and we already owned them.

Texan_Bill
12-21-2009, 04:49 PM
Has anyone posted the obligatory Jim Mora picture yet??

TheRealJoker
12-21-2009, 04:53 PM
i wouldn't go that far. teams like denver, baltimore, and cincy get in with just one win. The raiders aren't beating the ravens. Ray just aint gonna let that happen. Denver and Cincy are the ones to look at as possible prey.

Our best chance is of course, to win out and then hope Denver collapses. Cincy still looked pretty good yesterday and should have no problem picking up a win between the Chiefs and Jets. If they lose to the Chiefs in front of their own fans in a playoff race, I would be really surprised.

Denver could do the deed though. They actually could lose their final two games. They are going to get beat by Philly next week and would need a win at home vs. the Chiefs. The Chiefs would come in fired up and ready to go. Divisional rivalries are always special and Denver looks very suspect right now, much moreso than Cincy does.

The worst thing would be for all of that to happen and the Titans win out. The Titans would punk us after starting 0-6. That would be a truly ***** move put on us.

imho, its all for naught. if we play like we did yesterday against the Rams we will get rolled by the Dolphins and the Patriots.

Maybe its because I became a Chiefs homer after yesterday's games but I think Cincy is ripe for an upset. They are running on empty after the emotional rollercoaster their team has been on this season (death of DC's wife, death of a teammate, tough hard fought loss to SD). They could very well be "just showing up" expecting a win against the Chiefs on Sunday. They are fully capable of coming out and laying an egg (see their game against the Raiders).

Chiefs come in playing the spoiler and by the time Cincy realizes what happened they've already lost to the Jets :)