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gary
12-13-2009, 03:49 PM
He is just a flat out beast I tell you. He comes ready to play every game. There aren't any flaws in his game.

GP
12-13-2009, 03:51 PM
He's the reason I still watch the games the rest of this season.

He's the real deal.

gary
12-13-2009, 03:54 PM
The entire LB corps is the real deal IMO.

Goldensilence
12-13-2009, 04:11 PM
This defense minus Brian Cushing = Dick Smith's.

Def should be DROY.

alphajoker
12-13-2009, 04:11 PM
He is just a flat out beast I tell you. He comes ready to play every game. There aren't any flaws in his game.

JMO...he could work on his pass coverage skills but other than that, yes, homeboy is a bonafide stud.

gary
12-13-2009, 04:17 PM
JMO...he could work on his pass coverage skills but other than that, yes, homeboy is a bonafide stud.A little work there but that's about all.

2slik4u
12-13-2009, 04:35 PM
A little work there but that's about all.
-he leads all linebackers, rookies and vets, in pass deflections with 12
-tied for first with 3 interceptions out of all linebackers

of course, any player could be better but thats a damn good start.

Thorn
12-13-2009, 04:38 PM
I'm certain Cushing will be the DRY. He really is that good.

eriadoc
12-13-2009, 04:50 PM
-he leads all linebackers, rookies and vets, in pass deflections with 12
-tied for first with 3 interceptions out of all linebackers

of course, any player could be better but thats a damn good start.

Dallas Clark is still catching passes on him, I think. Of course, I'm just being devil's advocate, because no one should have expected Cush to cover Clark. Putting him in that situation would be a bad coaching decision. Oh wait .......

Maddict5
12-13-2009, 04:58 PM
i thought demeco had a great game today aswell. himself and OD have really earned the right to get paid this offseason imo.

id still keep dunta too if i could. not for near the money he was asking but if hes reasonable. hes getting beat times (and good for a penalty a game) but there must be a reason teams arent throwing on him so much

TimeKiller
12-13-2009, 05:01 PM
No player is perfect but he sure does have a wealth of talents playing defense.

V3rm0nt3r
12-13-2009, 05:04 PM
i thought demeco had a great game today aswell. himself and OD have really earned the right to get paid this offseason imo.

id still keep dunta too if i could. not for near the money he was asking but if hes reasonable. hes getting beat times (and good for a penalty a game) but there must be a reason teams arent throwing on him so much

because it's just easier not too. it's not because he's great it's because he's better than Reeves McCain and Quin (for the time being).

TheRealJoker
12-13-2009, 05:04 PM
I find it strange that pundits claim Harvin is having the best overall year of rookies. Cushing is the only rookie that is playing at an all pro level imo.

sportfan73
12-13-2009, 06:01 PM
It will probably go to Byrd from Buffalo b/c the media will look at 8+ picks and cream their pants

JMacaroni
12-13-2009, 06:04 PM
It will probably go to Byrd from Buffalo b/c the media will look at 8+ picks and cream their pants

I agree....his INTS or Matthew's or Orakpo's sacks.

Maddict5
12-13-2009, 06:05 PM
everyone has caught on that byrd is a one trick pony. cush is going to win it easy

sportfan73
12-13-2009, 06:21 PM
everyone has caught on that byrd is a one trick pony. cush is going to win it easy

lol internet hyperbole, you cannot seriously believe this

you might feel he should, but to actually believe any defensive player on the Texans is going to easily win an award is just blatant homerism

TEXANRED
12-13-2009, 06:39 PM
If Cushing is DRY I suggest adding a little bit of gravy.

Wolf
12-13-2009, 06:42 PM
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/98/fullj.97ac884418504a38fa189129d746443d/97ac884418504a38fa189129d746443d-getty-88972269bl003_seattle_seaha.jpg

HOUSTON - DECEMBER 13: Quarterback Matt Hasselbeck(notes) #8 of the Seattle Seahawks is sacked by linebacker Brian Cushing(notes) #56 of the Houston Texans in the first quarter at Reliant Stadium on December 13, 2009 in Houston, Texas. (Photo by Bob Levey/Getty Images)

Maddict5
12-13-2009, 06:48 PM
lol internet hyperbole, you cannot seriously believe this

you might feel he should, but to actually believe any defensive player on the Texans is going to easily win an award is just blatant homerism


write it down. make a note whatever. cush is going to win DROTY in a landslide. thats not homerism etc. its because, according to many sources and websites that do these things that hes played better than every other olb this season.

axman40
12-13-2009, 07:12 PM
He is just a flat out beast I tell you. He comes ready to play every game. There aren't any flaws in his game.
I have seen a flaw , he cannot cover Dallas Clark !
Aside from that he is a beast!

:fans:

False Start
12-13-2009, 07:19 PM
It will probably go to Byrd from Buffalo b/c the media will look at 8+ picks and cream their pants

Yeah, from all those tipped ball ints. ;)

I think Cush has a hell of a chance to win.

Vinny
12-13-2009, 07:23 PM
I find it strange that pundits claim Harvin is having the best overall year of rookies. Cushing is the only rookie that is playing at an all pro level imo.
Harvin is a freaking stud and playing like one. That Cushing guy is really good too.

gary
12-13-2009, 07:28 PM
I have seen a flaw , he cannot cover Dallas Clark !
Aside from that he is a beast!

:fans:Dallas has the best QB in the NFL throwing the football to him and he has been at it for much longer than Cushing has.

Vinny
12-13-2009, 07:29 PM
lol internet hyperbole, you cannot seriously believe this

you might feel he should, but to actually believe any defensive player on the Texans is going to easily win an award is just blatant homerism

Don't tell DeMeco Ryans that...he won't believe you.

JMacaroni
12-13-2009, 07:49 PM
Don't tell DeMeco Ryans that...he won't believe you.

True, but there weren't many standouts that year. At least not like this year with the "sexy" stats that everyone seems to notice and hype.

phantom17
12-13-2009, 08:10 PM
The way he is playing all year, he should be DROY hands down! Now, if only the Texans could get a STUD DT/NT in the draft or via FA next season would be awesome! I can only wish!:kingkong::bravo:

Carr Bombed
12-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Jairus Byrd got another pick today which puts him at 9 ints for the season.......interceptions are a very sexy stat with people on the media who don't get to see all these players play. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they handed the award to a rookie DB who leads the entire league in interceptions.

Vinny
12-13-2009, 08:14 PM
Jairus Byrd got another pick today which puts him at 9 ints for the season.......interceptions are a very sexy stat with people on the media who don't get to see all these players play. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they handed the award to a rookie DB who leads the entire league in interceptions.Cushing has been so good I don't see that since he is a front 7 defender and much more of an impact player. You guys are so paranoid.

Carr Bombed
12-13-2009, 08:20 PM
Cushing has been so good I don't see that since he is a front 7 defender and much more of an impact player. You guys are so paranoid.

I'm not being paranoid. Just saying it wouldn't surprise me if they gave the award to a guy who leads the entire league in interceptions. The fact that there are so many high quality rookie LBers might actually hurt Cushing.

Spled
12-13-2009, 08:20 PM
Oddly enough, I think Cushing leads our team in picks.

Vinny
12-13-2009, 08:29 PM
I'm not being paranoid. Just saying it wouldn't surprise me if they gave the award to a guy who leads the entire league in interceptions. The fact that there are so many high quality rookie LBers might actually hurt Cushing.
more paranoia. Cushing will be Droy and it won't be close.

valleytexfan
12-13-2009, 08:29 PM
more paranoia. Cushing will be Droy and it won't be close.

Yes. Stud.

Wolf
12-13-2009, 08:33 PM
before today,

he leads the team in solo(64),assists(38) and total tackles(108) .. leads the team in INT's (3) ,tied for team lead in (9) Pass defense, and tied for team lead with 1 safety
sacks he was 5th in the team before today

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/hou/stats?sort=nfl.stat_type.705

MEGA SWATT
12-13-2009, 08:40 PM
I like Brain Cushing!!!:kitten:

Carr Bombed
12-13-2009, 08:41 PM
more paranoia. Cushing will be Droy and it won't be close.

We'll see. I still don't see how acknowledging another great season by a rookie is "paranoia" though, but whatever.

Vinny
12-13-2009, 08:49 PM
We'll see. I still don't see how acknowledging another great season by a rookie is "paranoia" though, but whatever.
I see more peepee herts stuff about how the media hates Houston than I care for. Cushing DROY is just a no brainer across NFL nation. Book it.

V3rm0nt3r
12-13-2009, 08:51 PM
as much as i hate to say it this isn't just between Cush and Byrd. Orakpo picked up 4 sacks today to put him at 11 on the year. even against Oakland that kind of number is impressive.

Vinny
12-13-2009, 08:56 PM
as much as i hate to say it this isn't just between Cush and Byrd. Orakpo picked up 4 sacks today to put him at 11 on the year. even against Oakland that kind of number is impressive.
Orakpo is really coming on strong...I actually forgot about him. Talk about no respect!

thunderkyss
12-13-2009, 09:01 PM
Dallas Clark is still catching passes on him, I think. Of course, I'm just being devil's advocate, because no one should have expected Cush to cover Clark. Putting him in that situation would be a bad coaching decision. Oh wait .......

Oh wait, isn't that what a SAM is supposed to do? Cover a TE?

We could have taken Diles out, put an extra DB in & that would have tak... no, we tried that the first time, & Peyton ate that up too.

sportfan73
12-13-2009, 09:01 PM
goes to show you what having a solid secondary can do for your pass rush

Jackie Chiles
12-14-2009, 01:14 AM
Brian is absolutely going to win DROY. I'm just not sure which Brian, Cushing or Orakpo. Before this week I would have said Cush was going to win pretty easily but now Orakpo has 11 sacks with 3 games left. Ugh, thats rough. Oh well, from what I have seen I wouldn't trade Cush for any defensive (or offensive) rookie from this years class. Thats good enough for me.

P.S. Barwin should have gotten up to 3.5 sacks, that was the worst intentional grounding I have ever seen. Ever. Seneca Wallace, you suck.

beerlover
12-14-2009, 08:49 AM
where would the Texans be without this rookie class of defensive players? Led by Cushing, Glover Quinn looks better than Reeves while Brice McCain blankets WR's in coverage competing to force break-ups. Connor just needs more reps, has second gear to QB & as projected will be the pass rushing specialist Texans have needed.

silvrhand
12-14-2009, 08:57 AM
Brian is absolutely going to win DROY. I'm just not sure which Brian, Cushing or Orakpo. Before this week I would have said Cush was going to win pretty easily but now Orakpo has 11 sacks with 3 games left. Ugh, thats rough. Oh well, from what I have seen I wouldn't trade Cush for any defensive (or offensive) rookie from this years class. Thats good enough for me.

P.S. Barwin should have gotten up to 3.5 sacks, that was the worst intentional grounding I have ever seen. Ever. Seneca Wallace, you suck.

:bravo: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I have to admit this made me laugh cause it was the worst intentional grounding call I have seen in a VERY long time.

BigBull17
12-14-2009, 09:12 AM
JMO...he could work on his pass coverage skills but other than that, yes, homeboy is a bonafide stud.

He takes bad angles at times, but that's part of the rookie learning curve. Everyone is way faster in the NFL. I think for a rookie, his coverage is pretty good, except vs Dallas Clark.

where would the Texans be without this rookie class of defensive players? Led by Cushing, Glover Quinn looks better than Reeves while Brice McCain blankets WR's in coverage competing to force break-ups. Connor just needs more reps, has second gear to QB & as projected will be the pass rushing specialist Texans have needed.

I would like to see Quinn and MCCain start the rest of the year.

Showtime100
12-14-2009, 10:12 AM
I see more peepee herts stuff about how the media hates Houston than I care for. Cushing DROY is just a no brainer across NFL nation. Book it.

I've seriously tried to get rid of that notion for years and the fact is it's real. Cushing as a candidate for DROY is indeed real, but he's a Texan. If he played for a New York team or Pittsburgh it would be a no brainer. JMO

Vinny
12-14-2009, 10:16 AM
I've seriously tried to get rid of that notion for years and the fact is it's real. Cushing as a candidate for DROY is indeed real, but he's a Texan. If he played for a New York team or Pittsburgh it would be a no brainer. JMOIt's not real and it is peepee herts stuff. You have to give the NY and West Coastmedia a reason to pay attention to you or you just don't matter. Cushing is a reason. They don't give a crap about us as a mediocre team with nothing to talk about. When Earl was tearing up the league the Oilers were all over the place across the Nation. When DeMeco burst into the scene he was ROY. Andre Johnson gets massive respect around the league. The Texans in general? pfft....they don't matter because they are endlessly mediocre, so the media isn't gonna waste their time talking about a team that draws nobodies interest outside of Houston. The problem with the Texans getting no love falls on the Texans...not the media. They have actually tried to get on the bandwagon at different points this season for instance, but the Texans keep letting them down. Nobody has much interest in this team for a reason, and the reason is we are mediocre.

beerlover
12-14-2009, 10:28 AM
I would like to see Quinn and MCCain start the rest of the year.

yeah, me too.

LDE - Mario Williams
LDT - Antonio Smith
RDT - Amobi Okoye
RDE - Connor Barwin
SAM - Brian Cushing
MLB - DeMeco Ryans
WLB - Zach Diles
SS - Bernard Pollard
FS - Dominique Barber
RCB - Glover Quinn
LCB - Brice McCain

* bold denotes rookie

SheTexan
12-14-2009, 10:33 AM
AJ went into space, or at least his jersey did! lol Pretty freaking awesome if ya ask me!! I'm not sure, but, I don't think any other NFL player has had that honor.

All I can say is that IF I was 40 yrs younger I would be camping out on Brian Cushings doorstep! lol I am officially IN LOVE with a true Texan TALENT! :heart: His ability speaks for itself. It's his passion, intensity, respect, and love for the game that turns me on, and I hope the NFL as well. He makes the game FUN to watch, something we don't see much of anymore, esp on our own field.

Showtime100
12-14-2009, 10:38 AM
It's not real and it is peepee herts stuff. You have to give the NY and West Coastmedia a reason to pay attention to you or you just don't matter. Cushing is a reason. They don't give a crap about us as a mediocre team with nothing to talk about. When Earl was tearing up the league the Oilers were all over the place across the Nation. When DeMeco burst into the scene he was ROY. Andre Johnson gets massive respect around the league. The Texans in general? pfft....they don't matter because they are endlessly mediocre, so the media isn't gonna waste their time talking about a team that draws nobodies interest outside of Houston. The problem with the Texans getting no love falls on the Texans...not the media. They have actually tried to get on the bandwagon at different points this season for instance, but the Texans keep letting them down. Nobody has much interest in this team for a reason, and the reason is we are mediocre.

I thought we were talking about an individual award. Totally aside from that, come to Austin and hum a few bars of "peepee hurts," you'll be called a whiner.

I do agree though, the Texans give us very few bullets with which to shoot.

DexmanC
12-14-2009, 10:43 AM
It's not real and it is peepee herts stuff. You have to give the NY and West Coastmedia a reason to pay attention to you or you just don't matter. Cushing is a reason. They don't give a crap about us as a mediocre team with nothing to talk about. When Earl was tearing up the league the Oilers were all over the place across the Nation. When DeMeco burst into the scene he was ROY. Andre Johnson gets massive respect around the league. The Texans in general? pfft....they don't matter because they are endlessly mediocre, so the media isn't gonna waste their time talking about a team that draws nobodies interest outside of Houston. The problem with the Texans getting no love falls on the Texans...not the media. They have actually tried to get on the bandwagon at different points this season for instance, but the Texans keep letting them down. Nobody has much interest in this team for a reason, and the reason is we are mediocre.

I'm sure you saw Sterling Sharpe throw his hands up in frustration the
last time he mentioned the Texans. I believe it was on Playbook, while
they were previewing the Jags game.

gary
12-14-2009, 06:27 PM
If the Texans were a winning team then he'd probably be better off.

JDizzle
12-14-2009, 09:22 PM
If the Texans were a winning team then he'd probably be better off.

Ryans won DROY when we were 6-10.

TheRealJoker
12-14-2009, 09:27 PM
If the Texans were a winning team then he'd probably be better off.

Cushing's biggest competition outside of his fellow USC LBs are players that are not on winning teams either.

TexanBacker93
12-14-2009, 09:36 PM
I think Cushing's overall body of work will win the award for him. Has anyone else filled out the stat sheet like him? Tackles, sacks, INTs, forced fumbles, and a safety. Orakpo and Matthews have more sacks. Matthews also has 3 fumble recoveries (one of which was a brilliant strip of Adrian Peterson). Byrd has 9 INTs.

When it comes down to who is the best COMPLETE rookie to play on the defensive side of the ball. Cushing is hands down the best one.

sportfan73
12-15-2009, 06:54 AM
when someone like Clay Matthews wins it this year we'll all know the north/east media bias in sports.

Thorn
12-15-2009, 07:44 AM
On the nfl.com site, if you sort linebackers by the division, Cushing is the top rated linebacker in the AFC and Ryans is the 7th best.

Texecutioner
12-15-2009, 12:56 PM
It's not real and it is peepee herts stuff. You have to give the NY and West Coastmedia a reason to pay attention to you or you just don't matter. Cushing is a reason. They don't give a crap about us as a mediocre team with nothing to talk about. When Earl was tearing up the league the Oilers were all over the place across the Nation. When DeMeco burst into the scene he was ROY. Andre Johnson gets massive respect around the league. The Texans in general? pfft....they don't matter because they are endlessly mediocre, so the media isn't gonna waste their time talking about a team that draws nobodies interest outside of Houston. The problem with the Texans getting no love falls on the Texans...not the media. They have actually tried to get on the bandwagon at different points this season for instance, but the Texans keep letting them down. Nobody has much interest in this team for a reason, and the reason is we are mediocre.

Yep, everything you said here is true.

gtexan02
12-15-2009, 01:06 PM
On the nfl.com site, if you sort linebackers by the division, Cushing is the top rated linebacker in the AFC and Ryans is the 7th best.

I think they are just "rating" them by sorting them by total tackles

If you sort by other stats, the orders change.

And as you all know, tackles do not equal a good indicator of LB ability

disaacks3
12-15-2009, 01:25 PM
We're all a bit biased on here towards Cushing, and I DO think he's the most COMPLETE player as well, but this vote will be anything but a runaway.

9 picks is a BIG shiny stat for the voters. Playing on a better team than the Texans helps immensely as well.

I HOPE Cushing wins, but it's by no means a lock. If he gets a few more GLOSSY stats like Sacks / Ints / Fumble recoveries, he should lock it up.

JB
12-15-2009, 01:33 PM
We're all a bit biased on here towards Cushing, and I DO think he's the most COMPLETE player as well, but this vote will be anything but a runaway.

9 picks is a BIG shiny stat for the voters. Playing on a better team than the Texans helps immensely as well.

I HOPE Cushing wins, but it's by no means a lock. If he gets a few more GLOSSY stats like Sacks / Ints / Fumble recoveries, he should lock it up.

I dont think that Byrd will bew the biggest challenge. It is Brian Orakpo with his double digit sacks that will be the probable winner if Cush does not get it.

Craig.
12-15-2009, 08:02 PM
This pic has me cracking up!

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/40/fullj.be53a34eb40112680234e71e2894c2bc/be53a34eb40112680234e71e2894c2bc-getty-88972269bl013_seattle_seaha.jpg

mussop
12-15-2009, 08:26 PM
Not sayin he will win but dont forget about Oher. He is playing LT at a high level.

GP
12-15-2009, 09:11 PM
I have a feeling that Brian Cushing is not going to win it.

And he will only use that deflated feeling, and use it as motivation to be even better in 2010. He's going to make the Pro Bowl in 2010. Bank on it.

TheRealJoker
12-15-2009, 09:15 PM
We're all a bit biased on here towards Cushing, and I DO think he's the most COMPLETE player as well, but this vote will be anything but a runaway.

9 picks is a BIG shiny stat for the voters. Playing on a better team than the Texans helps immensely as well.

I HOPE Cushing wins, but it's by no means a lock. If he gets a few more GLOSSY stats like Sacks / Ints / Fumble recoveries, he should lock it up.

I thought the Texans proved they were better than the Bills when they went to Buffalo and beat them 31-10?

JB
12-15-2009, 10:04 PM
Not sayin he will win but dont forget about Oher. He is playing LT at a high level.

Oher will most probably be in the running for OROY with Harvin hurt; but he cannot compete for Defensive Rookie Of the Year.:kingkong:

Silver Oak
12-15-2009, 10:22 PM
gary, please use the edit feature and fix the thread title. starting to give me the creeps when I read it.

HOU-TEX
12-16-2009, 09:58 AM
Not sayin he will win but dont forget about Oher. He is playing LT at a high level.

I like Oher a lot, but I think he's been playing RT this season up until Gaither got hurt.

No More 8-8's
12-16-2009, 11:31 AM
The only way that Cushing loses, is that the voters become enamored with the inflated Sack Totals. Orakpo has been very good, but the other defensive end on the line Andre Carter has like 9 sacks as well. Cushing has done everything well.

disaacks3
12-16-2009, 11:37 AM
I dont think that Byrd will bew the biggest challenge. It is Brian Orakpo with his double digit sacks that will be the probable winner if Cush does not get it.

I thought the Texans proved they were better than the Bills when they went to Buffalo and beat them 31-10?

I was just using INTs as an example of a GLOSSY Stat, not making an outright prediction as to who I thought would win the award.

Stats that REALLY stand out and impress ther Voters: (in no particular order)

Interceptions, Sacks, Forced fumbles, Fumble Recoveries, TDs, Tackles for loss.

There are simply more rookies playing at a VERY high level than in many years past. I really suspect that a coastal bias and /or vote split will make this a far tighter vote than anyone seems to expect at this point.

JB
12-16-2009, 11:59 AM
I was just using INTs as an example of a GLOSSY Stat, not making an outright prediction as to who I thought would win the award.

Stats that REALLY stand out and impress ther Voters: (in no particular order)

Interceptions, Sacks, Forced fumbles, Fumble Recoveries, TDs, Tackles for loss.

There are simply more rookies playing at a VERY high level than in many years past. I really suspect that a coastal bias and /or vote split will make this a far tighter vote than anyone seems to expect at this point.

I agree with you. I was just pointing out that IMO Byrd will not be one of the top two canidates.

gary
12-18-2009, 12:43 PM
gary, please use the edit feature and fix the thread title. starting to give me the creeps when I read it.Please foregive me but I don't understand why. It always gives a player an extra edge when he is on a better team for those of you out there who might not think so.

HJam72
12-18-2009, 05:19 PM
Wow, he's the DROY and the DRY! :fans:

BuffaloglennTX
12-20-2009, 11:58 AM
Did anyone else just see the NFL network pregame show where they showed a clip of Brian Cushing yelling at one of the Texans on the sidelines? He said something about Deion Branch winning the superbowl MVP and not ducking. You couldn't tell who he was talking to as the camera was behind him. It sounded like he was calling out one of the Texans for not being sufficiently agressive or something.

Lucky
12-20-2009, 12:11 PM
I had it on in the background, but I couldn't make out exactly what he said. Whatever it was, keep up the good work, Brian.

Not really new thread worthy.

Section516
12-21-2009, 04:56 PM
Hm, seems its going to be a closer race than we thought.

Rookie leading NFL in Interceptions, Matthews improving with every game, Orakpo finishing REALLY strong. Mmmhmm.

Heres to a big finish, get some glossy stats Cush:doot:

TEXANS84
12-21-2009, 05:41 PM
Did anyone else just see the NFL network pregame show where they showed a clip of Brian Cushing yelling at one of the Texans on the sidelines? He said something about Deion Branch winning the superbowl MVP and not ducking. You couldn't tell who he was talking to as the camera was behind him. It sounded like he was calling out one of the Texans for not being sufficiently agressive or something.

Cushing was talking about Deon Branch sliding instead of taking the hit.
He was telling someone about "how can a superbowl MVP duck down and not play like a superbowl MVP?"

disaacks3
12-21-2009, 06:59 PM
gary, please use the edit feature and fix the thread title. starting to give me the creeps when I read it.

Please foregive me but I don't understand why. It always gives a player an extra edge when he is on a better team for those of you out there who might not think so.
I think he's talking about B-R-A-I-N vs. B-R-I-A-N.

Zombie nightmares, perhaps?

[edit] - looks like it's been fixed now.

False Start
12-21-2009, 07:22 PM
I think he's talking about B-R-A-I-N vs. B-R-I-A-N.

I used to work with a guy named Brian, and they always spelled his name "Brain" on his time card, the name stuck. The ironic thing is, he wasn't the brightest guy... lol. :ahhaha:

Mr teX
12-22-2009, 04:04 PM
when someone like Clay Matthews wins it this year we'll all know the north/east media bias in sports.

you make it sound like he's not deserving; dude has been filling the void of pass rusher since Kampman went down....& has been doing it well.

It's gonna be a tight race for the award this year. There are 4 really deserving candidates.

Texan_Bill
12-22-2009, 04:17 PM
you make it sound like he's not deserving; dude has been filling the void of pass rusher since Kampman went down....& has been doing it well.

It's gonna be a tight race for the award this year. There are 4 really deserving candidates.

Yup.. Obviously we want Cush to win it, but the other guys have been playing well also.

sportfan73
12-22-2009, 04:55 PM
Cush is the only one who has done it all year, it's a one person award, so no, Matthews is not deserving as there is another player clearly having a better year than he is.

People love that sack stat, but Cush is a fairly dominant pass rusher when given the opportunity, it's just that the scheme he is in forces him to be a more well-rounded Linebacker. He's 6th in the league in tackles and has3 picks, 2 FFs, and a safety. I believe Matthews has 1 FF and no picks and only less than 50 tackles on the year.

SteveSlaton20
12-22-2009, 05:23 PM
wouldnt be surprise if orakpo or byrd wins it.

Thorn
12-22-2009, 05:55 PM
If he gets it, fine. If we doesn't, guess what, he plays for us and not "them". The Texans are the winners no matter what happens.

disaacks3
12-22-2009, 06:45 PM
I will say this (semi-objectively)..he seems to be the most well-rounded rookie.

TOP 5 NFL Rookie Stats:
1st - Total Tackles
1st - Safeties
2nd - Forced Fumbles
3rd - Interceptions
5th - Sacks
5th - Passes Defensed

Those are simply AWESOME stats for an OLB.

PHAROAH
12-23-2009, 08:25 AM
He is the best young linebacker that isn't a 3-4 pass rush specialist in the NFL and that isn't to say that he can't be just that as well. The texans hit the jackpot with him no doubt.

Mr teX
12-23-2009, 11:36 AM
Cush is the only one who has done it all year, it's a one person award, so no, Matthews is not deserving as there is another player clearly having a better year than he is.

People love that sack stat, but Cush is a fairly dominant pass rusher when given the opportunity, it's just that the scheme he is in forces him to be a more well-rounded Linebacker. He's 6th in the league in tackles and has3 picks, 2 FFs, and a safety. I believe Matthews has 1 FF and no picks and only less than 50 tackles on the year.

Ridiculous argument....Anyone remember Morlon Greenwood being at the top of the tackles list every year? Tell u what, go look at the top 10 sackers in the league and see how many of their teams are in the playoffs vs. the top 10 tacklers...yeah.

sacks are game changers, and though cush has been a beast & is very deserving, you can't underscore what matthews or any other deserving candidate.

Ndevine7
12-23-2009, 11:38 AM
Ridiculous argument....Anyone remember Morlon Greenwood being at the top of the tackles list every year? Tell u what, go look at the top 10 sackers in the league and see how many of their teams are in the playoffs vs. the top 10 tacklers...yeah.

sacks are game changers, and though cush has been a beast & is very deserving, you can't underscore what matthews or any other deserving candidate.

I agree with you but what cushing has done this year has been so impressive. Whenever there is a big situation Cushing steps up big shown with his interception agianst the Bills to wrap it up. Matthews and many others are deserving but i think Cushing is hands down the DROY

El Tejano
12-23-2009, 11:50 AM
Peyton Manning called him a fine player. That alone deserves ROY!

Mr teX
12-23-2009, 12:19 PM
I agree with you but what cushing has done this year has been so impressive. Whenever there is a big situation Cushing steps up big shown with his interception agianst the Bills to wrap it up. Matthews and many others are deserving but i think Cushing is hands down the DROY

I guess my main contention is the "hands down" talk. i would say he's an odds on favorite, but that's only b/c i've seen him week in/out for 15 weeks. I'm sure there are some GB fans out there who feel the same way about matthews as we do about cush, & judging by his stats and from what i've seen of him, he's right up there with cush.

infantrycak
12-23-2009, 02:20 PM
From PFT.com

Bills rookie defensive back Jairus Byrd made a big splash this season, with a league-leading nine interceptions through 14 games.

El Tejano
12-23-2009, 03:48 PM
From PFT.com

Byrd would be the only other dude that would be worthy of it, but if memory serves correct Demeco didn't get the award because our team was losing. Our team isn't losing. They aren't winning but they aren't losing.

JB
12-23-2009, 03:49 PM
Byrd would be the only other dude that would be worthy of it, but if memory serves correct Demeco didn't get the award because our team was losing. Our team isn't losing. They aren't winning but they aren't losing.

IIRC Demeco DID win DROY

TexanSam
12-24-2009, 11:56 AM
Byrd would be the only other dude that would be worthy of it, but if memory serves correct Demeco didn't get the award because our team was losing. Our team isn't losing. They aren't winning but they aren't losing.

Clay Matthews has 11 sacks for the Packers. It's hard to argue against any of them. Sure glad Cushing is on our team though

El Tejano
12-24-2009, 11:58 AM
Clay Matthews has 11 sacks for the Packers. It's hard to argue against any of them. Sure glad Cushing is on our team though

I wonder how many tackles, passes defensed, and ints Clay Matthews has. Or does he just line up and go to the QB or Running Back every down?

Mr teX
12-24-2009, 01:15 PM
I wonder how many tackles, passes defensed, and ints Clay Matthews has. Or does he just line up and go to the QB or Running Back every down?

6 passes defensed to cush's 9...10 sacks, with 47 total tackles, no ints, 1 FF & a TD. But you make it sound like getting sacks is easy or something..there's a reason those kinda guys are coveted.


Dude has done exactly what he did at USC which is exactly why i wanted him over cush; He didn't start the season as a starter mainly b/c he was injured. but the chip on his shoulder & motor kept him making enough plays to the point where Dom couldn't justify keeping him off the field.

He is essentially the upgraded version of Conner Barwin......

In reality, i'd be happy with Cush or Matthews, i'm just glad we got 1 of them.

El Tejano
12-24-2009, 01:20 PM
6 passes defensed to cush's 9... but you make it sound like getting sacks is easy or something..there's a reason those kinds guys are coveted.

Dude has done exactly what he did at USC which is exactly why i wanted him over cush; He didn't start the season as a starter mainly b/c he was injured. but the chip on his shoulder & motor kept him making enough plays to the point where Dom couldn't justify keeping him off the field.

In reality, i'd be happy with either guy, i'm just glad we got 1 of them.

I think it's alot easier when you are attempting that every play. I agree with you though.

If you think about it, the dude that got drafted by Cincy, Ray Maualuga, is doing a good job too. That was just a real good set of LBs at USC.

thunderkyss
12-24-2009, 01:51 PM
6 passes defensed to cush's 9...10 sacks, with 47 total tackles, no ints, 1 FF & a TD. But you make it sound like getting sacks is easy or something..there's a reason those kinda guys are coveted.


Dude has done exactly what he did at USC which is exactly why i wanted him over cush; He didn't start the season as a starter mainly b/c he was injured. but the chip on his shoulder & motor kept him making enough plays to the point where Dom couldn't justify keeping him off the field.

He is essentially the upgraded version of Conner Barwin......

In reality, i'd be happy with Cush or Matthews, i'm just glad we got 1 of them.

He's got good numbers for a DE/3-4 OLB..... but I don't think it's fair to compare him to either Conner Barwin, or Brian Cushing. Each player is playing different situations, schemes, & systems.

If you look at Defensive stats, Brian Cushing is in the top 10 for total tackles. He is the only outside LB in the top 10. Keith Bullock & Clint Session are the only other 2 OLBs in the top 20. I think that says a lot.

There are 9 other players with as many or more sacks than Clay Matthews. 4 of those 9 are 3-4 OLBs. There's another 6 among players that qualify for the top 20 in sacks.

I'm not taking anything away from Matthews, he's the real deal, he's an impact player, he is a bonafide starter.

But I think Cushings accomplishments are far greater.

I also don't believe you should be able to compare Clay Matthews to Jason Babin & Connor Barwin. Again, totally different players. Clay Matthews, Shawn Merriman, James Harrison, Shaun Phillips, Lamar Woodley, those are the guys you go get to play OLB in a 3-4 defense.

Jason Babin, Connor Barwin.. are not.

Mr teX
12-24-2009, 08:49 PM
He's got good numbers for a DE/3-4 OLB..... but I don't think it's fair to compare him to either Conner Barwin, or Brian Cushing. Each player is playing different situations, schemes, & systems.

who cares what scheme & position he plays, you guys are making it seem like its more of the scheme & not his skills & if that were true, every OLB that plays in a 3-4 would have 10 sacks.

If you look at Defensive stats, Brian Cushing is in the top 10 for total tackles. He is the only outside LB in the top 10. Keith Bullock & Clint Session are the only other 2 OLBs in the top 20. I think that says a lot.

Total tackles by itself isn't exactly a great stat to make a case with. All it says is that he made the tackle, not where (behind the LOS or 10 yds down the field?) he made it. Again, Morlon Greenwood anyone? 2nd, i don't think it really matter what lb position he plays especially since Cush plays for a d-coordinator who has blitzed more than the norm. In theory, wouldn't this mean that Cush gets more sack opportunites?

There are 9 other players with as many or more sacks than Clay Matthews. 4 of those 9 are 3-4 OLBs. There's another 6 among players that qualify for the top 20 in sacks.

What does this matter any? You also forgot to mention that he is 1 of only 2 rookies in the top 10 in sacks.

I'm not taking anything away from Matthews, he's the real deal, he's an impact player, he is a bonafide starter.

But I think Cushings accomplishments are far greater.

I can't really see how "far" greater they are..Cush is a beast & i've been pleasantly surprised with him, but as i said earlier, there's a reason pass rushers are far more coveted than just having a great lb.

I also don't believe you should be able to compare Clay Matthews to Jason Babin & Connor Barwin. Again, totally different players. Clay Matthews, Shawn Merriman, James Harrison, Shaun Phillips, Lamar Woodley, those are the guys you go get to play OLB in a 3-4 defense.

They're only different players in the sense that 1 has produced at a pretty high level & the other 2 have not. Other than that, they are nearly identical in what their respective coaches drafted them for. Athletic guys who can run & are versatile enough to rush the passer either with their hand in the dirt, or standing. The scheme is relatively unimportant from that standpoint.
Jason Babin, Connor Barwin.. are not.

I cannot believe you guys are downplaying a guy who's notched 10 sacks. Lord only knows what our defense could be if we could get a guy opposite mario who could put up those numbers.

disaacks3
12-27-2009, 05:14 PM
Cushing helps keep his case VERY strong for DROY.

9 tackles, 1 Sack, 1 Int. vs. the Fins.

TexansFanatic
12-27-2009, 05:18 PM
Cushing helps keep his case VERY strong for DROY.

9 tackles, 1 Sack, 1 Int. vs. the Fins.

Crazy. He just keeps rolling.

gary
12-27-2009, 05:47 PM
I think he'll get the award.

edo783
12-27-2009, 06:12 PM
The boy is a player that's for sure.

El Tejano
12-27-2009, 09:03 PM
So that's 119 tackles which leads the AFC, 4 INTs, and 4 sacks on the season. Too bad he doesn't have eleven sacks.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 09:05 PM
So that's 119 tackles which leads the AFC, 4 INTs, and 4 sacks on the season. Too bad he doesn't have eleven sacks.

or 9 INTs. If he doesnt win the award it's BS.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 09:24 PM
or 9 INTs. If he doesnt win the award it's BS.

Byrd is on IR, he is missing the final two weeks of the season. I don't think he was a threat to take the award in the first place and I am confident he has no shot now. Matthews and Orakpo have legit cases but neither has been consistently as good as Cushing.

rmartin65
12-27-2009, 09:27 PM
Cushing is legit in all categories, which is why I believe he deserves it. Matthews and Orakpo have the sacks, but not the tackles and/or picks Cush has. Byrd has more picks, but not the tackles and sacks. Cush is good at every category.

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 09:41 PM
Sorry if someone has already posted this from Paul K's AFC South Blog (http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/7333/worthy-of-consideration)...


Defensive Rookie of the Year: Brian Cushing (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12453)'s been a huge addition to the Texans and Ive listened to opposing coaches, on and off the record, rave about him all season. Hes played like a veteran despite missing camp with a knee injury and sitting out a lot of practices during the season with a foot injury. He should win this because of how much impact hes had for the Houston defense. Ive been asked about Jerraud Powers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12714), whos been quite good for what the Colts ask of a corner, but hes not on par with Cushing. Buffalos Jairus Byrd (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12613) will get votes for an excellent season with an NFL-high nine interceptions and Brian Orakpo (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=12439) is a strong candidate.

No mention of Matthews :shrug:

NitroGSXR
12-27-2009, 11:02 PM
Plus Cushing broke his pinkie finger yet he finished the game. Yup, he broke it. Cushing's a footballer, folks.

SAMURAITEXAN
12-27-2009, 11:34 PM
Cushing is DROY to me. Runner up: Orakpo.

Go Cushing!!!
Go Texans!!!

TheRealJoker
12-27-2009, 11:39 PM
Cushing is all pro... not just DROY

Best SAM in the league

DerekLee1
12-28-2009, 02:41 AM
Right up there with Elvis Dumerville and Darrelle Rivas, Cushing is in contention for the best defensive player of the year, regardless of his rookie status.

Ole Miss Texan
12-28-2009, 11:10 AM
Plus Cushing broke his pinkie finger yet he finished the game. Yup, he broke it. Cushing's a footballer, folks.

When the trainer told him it was broken, he responded: "You think I broke that? I think if I just drink some milk tonight I'll be alright."


Cushing has been amazing, I love the pick. His toughness and commitment is exactly what we need.

No More 8-8's
12-28-2009, 11:38 AM
DROY is great and all........but to be quite honest.....he should be heading back to Miami for the PRO BOWL. Look at the stats, he is the best 4-3 outside linebacker in the NFL already.

Hagar
12-28-2009, 12:16 PM
He's unlike anyone the Texans have ever had, a difference-maker almost from the moment he stepped on the field. He's the whole package, a pass-rusher one moment, a run-stopper the next.

He does it all with speed and passion, making plays that win games as much as they fill up stat sheets. He's the guy the Texans hoped they were getting when they drafted Mario Williams Ohhhhh SNAP!

Sad but ultimately true. Williams is a good player, but he isn't a great player. Cush has had a greater impact in his rookie season then Mario has had during his entire career.

Keep it up Cush, you'll be great some day.

Cushing again shows he's aching to be a star in the NFL (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/texans/6788818.html)

gary
12-28-2009, 02:14 PM
DROY is great and all........but to be quite honest.....he should be heading back to Miami for the PRO BOWL. Look at the stats, he is the best 4-3 outside linebacker in the NFL already.Is he in the running for that or not?

Vinny
12-28-2009, 02:16 PM
Is he in the running for that or not?
sure he is.

Maddict5
12-28-2009, 02:18 PM
Ohhhhh SNAP!

Sad but ultimately true. Williams is a good player, but he isn't a great player. Cush has had a greater impact in his rookie season then Mario has had during his entire career.

Keep it up Cush, you'll be great some day.

Cushing again shows he's aching to be a star in the NFL (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/texans/6788818.html)

thats not fair either though. linebackers are more produvtive by nature. mario's having a down year alright but he put plenty of pressure of henne yesterday yet never even showed up on the stat sheet

gary
12-28-2009, 02:21 PM
sure he is.Are there certain standers to be on the valid? Don't the coaches get a pick too?

Vinny
12-28-2009, 02:24 PM
Are there certain standers to be on the valid? Don't the coaches get a pick too?
coaches, players and fans each get a third of the vote.

Nawzer
12-28-2009, 02:35 PM
Cushing should be a Pro-Bowler.

gary
12-28-2009, 02:36 PM
coaches, players and fans each get a third of the vote.It would be nice to have Ryans, Matt, AJ, Cushing, and OD make the Probowl of course OD would have to be replaced.

ObsiWan
12-28-2009, 02:40 PM
It would be nice to have Ryans, Matt, AJ, Cushing, and OD make the Probowl of course OD would have to be replaced.

I fear that O.D. got hurt too soon to be in the running.

Marcus
12-28-2009, 02:44 PM
I fear that O.D. got hurt too soon to be in the running.

If O.D. hadn't of gotten hurt, we'd be resting our starters on Sunday.

infantrycak
12-28-2009, 02:48 PM
I fear that O.D. got hurt too soon to be in the running.

Darn shame too. OD is still 15th in TE yardage, 11th on TD's and only played half the season.

gary
12-28-2009, 02:54 PM
I fear that O.D. got hurt too soon to be in the running.How about Mario? Now I know he does not have as many sacks as he had last season but he still has a chance for ten and he is near the top in every other stat. I am just wondering about him.

Marcus
12-28-2009, 03:17 PM
Mario's played hurt all season because of a bum shoulder. Something that he'll probably have to have surgery on after the season is over.

And does anyone know what the deal is with Cushing's foot?

eriadoc
12-28-2009, 03:27 PM
Darn shame too. OD is still 15th in TE yardage, 11th on TD's and only played half the season.

I think OD is still 2nd on our team in TD catches, no? I'm not sure that's a good thing, but hey ......

infantrycak
12-28-2009, 03:29 PM
I think OD is still 2nd on our team in TD catches, no? I'm not sure that's a good thing, but hey ......

He and JJ are tied for 2nd with 5 each.

El Tejano
12-28-2009, 03:34 PM
I'm sorry but Cushing leads the AFC in tackles. You can say what you want about sacks not being so easy to get but when you have to cover the team's best TE along with slot receivers and you're able to get sacks, ints, and lead the team in tackles - screw sack numbers.

To me ints are worth double since it gives you posession of the ball. Ask any DC and they would say they'd rather get the ints vs. the sack any day.

Hagar
12-28-2009, 05:22 PM
thats not fair either though. linebackers are more produvtive by nature. mario's having a down year alright but he put plenty of pressure of henne yesterday yet never even showed up on the stat sheetI don't disagree that linebackers have more opportunity to be productive. Let's put it this way, if you had the first pick in the draft and had to chose between Mario or Brian, which would you chose? I think the choice is obvious, Cushing.

He leads the team in tackles, interceptions and pass defenses. Cush is 3rd on the team in sacks behind Mario (8), Smith (4.5) with 4 sacks. On top of that, he's a vocal leader in the locker room.

False Start
12-28-2009, 09:02 PM
http://images.chron.com/photos/2009/12/27/19761915/600xPopupGallery.jpg

:cool:

GP
12-28-2009, 09:28 PM
I think this past Miami game locked it up for Cushing.

He's a smart player. He knows which gaps to shoot, and knows where things are opening up.

He is the best defensive player on our team. Better than Mario. And only slightly better than DeMeco.

It's going to become Cushing's team next season, IMO.

gary
12-29-2009, 12:05 PM
I think this past Miami game locked it up for Cushing.

He's a smart player. He knows which gaps to shoot, and knows where things are opening up.

He is the best defensive player on our team. Better than Mario. And only slightly better than DeMeco.

It's going to become Cushing's team next season, IMO.Just a question for you. Yes, he is better than Mario I agree. Do you know how much better since Mario has been playing hurt all season long?

HOU-TEX
12-29-2009, 12:11 PM
I think this past Miami game locked it up for Cushing.

He's a smart player. He knows which gaps to shoot, and knows where things are opening up.

He is the best defensive player on our team. Better than Mario. And only slightly better than DeMeco.

It's going to become Cushing's team next season, IMO.

Better than D-Ryans? That's hogwash IMO. Sure Cush has gotten the attention by the sack and int numbers, but D-Ryans is a machine. The dude's every where on the field and there's hardly a play where he isn't getting up from the pile.

Cush is having a great rookie year, but I try not to put rooks up on a pedestal until they do it on a consistent basis.

infantrycak
12-29-2009, 12:20 PM
Better than D-Ryans? That's hogwash IMO. Sure Cush has gotten the attention by the sack and int numbers, but D-Ryans is a machine. The dude's every where on the field and there's hardly a play where he isn't getting up from the pile.

Yup, I think some people are taking DeMeco for granted. He is nails and a true sideline to sideline ILB. He should be in the pro-bowl but like AJ he is so quiet it hurts him.

Texan_Bill
12-29-2009, 12:22 PM
I never take linebacker play for granted, especially 'Meco's play.

No More 8-8's
12-29-2009, 12:24 PM
Yup, I think some people are taking DeMeco for granted. He is nails and a true sideline to sideline ILB. He should be in the pro-bowl but like AJ he is so quiet it hurts him.

All this Demeco or Cush talk.....its like choosing between Megan Fox and Olivia Wilde

HOU-TEX
12-29-2009, 12:32 PM
Yup, I think some people are taking DeMeco for granted. He is nails and a true sideline to sideline ILB. He should be in the pro-bowl but like AJ he is so quiet it hurts him.

He's a tackling machine. If he were a tad bit better in coverage he'd be dang near perfect.

Heck, this past game he was like a dart stopping Ricky a few times in the backfield. I'd be focused in on Ricky running the ball then D-Ryans would fly in and knock the crap out of him.

If we can get better in the back end, our D would have the potential to be a top 10. Watching Henne throw for 300+ wasn't impressive.

Jackie Chiles
12-29-2009, 01:22 PM
He's a tackling machine. If he were a tad bit better in coverage he'd be dang near perfect.

Heck, this past game he was like a dart stopping Ricky a few times in the backfield. I'd be focused in on Ricky running the ball then D-Ryans would fly in and knock the crap out of him.

If we can get better in the back end, our D would have the potential to be a top 10. Watching Henne throw for 300+ wasn't impressive.

Watch the hit near the goal-line that takes Ricky out of the game. Clean hit but one of the most vicious I have ever seen. DeMeco's shoulder is made out of iron and shaped like a hammer.

JB
12-29-2009, 01:37 PM
Cushing nominated for rookie of the week again...go vote

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

Thorn
12-29-2009, 01:44 PM
Cushing nominated for rookie of the week again...go vote

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

voted! :)

and watched some highlights while I was there.

gary
12-29-2009, 01:51 PM
When will the Probowl teams be picked?

JB
12-29-2009, 02:03 PM
When will the Probowl teams be picked?

Announced tonight

infantrycak
12-29-2009, 02:08 PM
Vic Carucci has Schaub, AJ, Mario and Cushing as pro-bowlers in his opinion.

Link (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8155a051&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

gary
12-29-2009, 02:14 PM
Vic Carucci has Schaub, AJ, Mario and Cushing as pro-bowlers in his opinion.

Link (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8155a051&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)No Ryans?

DeMarCushPoll
12-29-2009, 02:34 PM
Cushing nominated for rookie of the week again...go vote

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

I voted too. One thing I don't understand though, how is it that Curtis Painter didn't get nominated for ROW? How can they overlook these numbers? 4/11 for 44yrds and 1 Int.

JB
12-29-2009, 02:53 PM
I voted too. One thing I don't understand though, how is it that Curtis Painter didn't get nominated for ROW? How can they overlook these numbers? 4/11 for 44yrds and 1 Int.

Dont forget the fumble lost for a TD

HOU-TEX
12-29-2009, 03:07 PM
Watch the hit near the goal-line that takes Ricky out of the game. Clean hit but one of the most vicious I have ever seen. DeMeco's shoulder is made out of iron and shaped like a hammer.

Yeah, that's one. The one I was refering to was when Ricky was sweeping towards the left, D-Ryans came in like a freakin missle and slobber-knocked him. Hits like those can easily get me partially woodified.

No Ryans?

It's aggravating to me, Gary. It seems as if the emergence of Cushing is causing people to vastly underrate D-Ryans. I love watching the both of them play, but D-Ryans is quite deserving of a Pro Bowl too.

DeMarCushPoll
12-29-2009, 03:09 PM
Dont forget the fumble lost for a TD

He's not learning anything from Peyton, I didn't see him collapse into the fetal position when a defender got with 5 yards.

imatexan
12-29-2009, 03:12 PM
Vic Carucci has Schaub, AJ, Mario and Cushing as pro-bowlers in his opinion.

Link (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8155a051&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Mario and no Ryans!?

Hmm...

gary
12-29-2009, 03:12 PM
Yeah, that's one. The one I was refering to was when Ricky was sweeping towards the left, D-Ryans came in like a freakin missle and slobber-knocked him. Hits like those can easily get me partially woodified.



It's aggravating to me, Gary. It seems as if the emergence of Cushing is causing people to vastly underrate D-Ryans. I love watching the both of them play, but D-Ryans is quite deserving of a Pro Bowl too.They both are pretty damn good and the heart of the D period.

HOU-TEX
12-29-2009, 03:15 PM
They both are pretty damn good and the heart of the D period.

I agree, buddy. Hopefully we make D-Ryans happy over the offseason. Then we can enjoy watching them together for the next few years. Get'r done, Rick!

gary
12-29-2009, 03:18 PM
rep for you.

mattieuk
12-29-2009, 03:25 PM
Cushing nominated for rookie of the week again...go vote

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

He is still waiting his first ROTW awards.

Makes me kinda sick. Offense happy dumbass football fans.

Houston_Fanatic
12-29-2009, 04:09 PM
Anybody know when the DROY award will be announced?

infantrycak
12-29-2009, 04:12 PM
Anybody know when the DROY award will be announced?

Just after the end of the regular season.

ObsiWan
12-29-2009, 04:24 PM
Cushing nominated for rookie of the week again...go vote

http://www.nfl.com/partner?partnerType=rookies

I voted ten times.

Vote.
Refresh page
Repeat.

JB
12-29-2009, 04:37 PM
I voted ten times.

Vote.
Refresh page
Repeat.

Great! How about another 10?:kitten:

TheRealJoker
12-29-2009, 05:05 PM
Mario may get in based on reputation but he's gotta know that he did not perform up to expectations thus far this season. Sure he was injured but look at what Cushing is playing through as a rookie...

Like Kubiak said, "Mario has to factor into the game more."

DeMeco deserves to be in the pro bowl outright but will probably have to settle for alternate. Pollard is most deserving next to Cushing on defense imo for his role in turning around the defense even though he didn't play the full season.

Schaub might not be popular enough to beat out all the stars at QB in the AFC despite the stats. Probably an alternate award though. AJ is a lock.

ObsiWan
12-29-2009, 05:07 PM
Great! How about another 10?:kitten:
That's on the To-Do list. I'll shoot for 50 or 100 because know how the east coast weenies stuff the ballot boxes. I'll do my part for our guy.

JB
12-29-2009, 05:12 PM
That's on the To-Do list. I'll shoot for 50 or 100 because know how the east coast weenies stuff the ballot boxes. I'll do my part for our guy.

Yeah I know! I was there about 30 minutes voting over and over between hands of hold-em

ObsiWan
12-29-2009, 05:25 PM
All this Demeco or Cush talk.....its like choosing between Megan Fox and Olivia Wilde

ummm... now who do they play for again?
:thinking:

ObsiWan
12-29-2009, 05:27 PM
How about Mario? Now I know he does not have as many sacks as he had last season but he still has a chance for ten and he is near the top in every other stat. I am just wondering about him.

I think he'll make it in. I don't see anyone this side of Freeney in the AFC that's better.

JB
12-29-2009, 05:30 PM
ummm... now who do they play for again?
:thinking:

San Diego?

http://www.lflus.com/sandiegoseduction/

ObsiWan
12-29-2009, 05:34 PM
Yup, I think some people are taking DeMeco for granted. He is nails and a true sideline to sideline ILB. He should be in the pro-bowl but like AJ he is so quiet it hurts him.

Speaking of should be, I think Schaub should be in but the Great Unwashed NFL FanVerse only knows Brady, Manning, Rivers, and Roethlisberger. Gonna be tough for Schaub to break thru that name recognition thing those guys have going for them.

Section516
12-30-2009, 11:10 AM
Whats better, DROY or Pro Bowl? =P

All Pro!

Vinny
12-31-2009, 12:16 PM
Whats better, DROY or Pro Bowl? =P

All Pro!
The All Pro team hasn't been named yet. The All Pro team is much more prestigious than being a Pro Bowler.

gary
01-01-2010, 04:57 PM
Next comes for Brian a star name in the NFL and a cute girlfrind. LOL.

stingray
01-01-2010, 05:02 PM
Next comes for Brian a star name in the NFL and a cute girlfrind. LOL.

I don't think that the cute girlfriend part will be very hard.

gary
01-01-2010, 05:10 PM
He is so into playing football he might not ever to the time to try and find one. LOL.

Vinny
01-05-2010, 02:48 PM
I'm not being paranoid. Just saying it wouldn't surprise me if they gave the award to a guy who leads the entire league in interceptions. The fact that there are so many high quality rookie LBers might actually hurt Cushing.more paranoia. Cushing will be Droy and it won't be close.anymore questions comrade?

Cushing was a runaway winner in balloting by a nationwide panel of 50 sports writers and broadcasters who cover the league. Cushing received 39 votes Tuesday, easily beating Buffalo safety Jairus Byrd, who had six, and became the second Texans linebacker in four seasons to win the award. DeMeco Ryans took it in 2006. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4797623

mariowillshine15
01-05-2010, 02:59 PM
Congrats Cushing! You were a beast this year and you deserve the award.

SheTexan
01-05-2010, 06:54 PM
He is so into playing football he might not ever to the time to try and find one. LOL.

I think he already has one Gary. A long time girlfriend from what I heard. Whatever keeps him happy is fine with me!:smooch:

gary
01-05-2010, 07:31 PM
First one to post a photo gets rep points from me.