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Ryan
12-27-2009, 01:09 PM
no we need pittsburgh to beat baltimore.

NE over Jax 21-0, so that's one less thing to worry about.

GuerillaBlack
12-27-2009, 01:25 PM
If we had just beaten one more team and have 6 losses right now...

Life would be good.

thunderkyss
12-27-2009, 01:43 PM
no we need pittsburgh to beat baltimore.

NE over Jax 21-0, so that's one less thing to worry about.

You're right, Pittsburgh is beating Baltimore right now.

Things aren't looling good for Miami.

& the Jags look all but done.

So far so good @ halftime of the first games.

HJam72
12-27-2009, 03:12 PM
Pitts beat Baltimore....aaaaaaaaaaaaaand we are still in it!

HJam72
12-27-2009, 03:14 PM
Go Eagles! :fans: :specnatz:

Brandon420tx
12-27-2009, 03:15 PM
I don't know why you had the Chiefs as needing to beat the Bengals, we needed Cinci to win so we wouldn't be competing with them for a wildcard spot. And they did so YAY

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 03:16 PM
Go Eagles! :fans: :specnatz:

and colts!

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 03:17 PM
I don't know why you had the Chiefs as needing to beat the Bengals, we needed Cinci to win so we wouldn't be competing with them for a wildcard spot. And they did so YAY

we beat cincy on the h2h tiebreaker. no matter it was a pretty long shot anyway. still nice to see that KC are still playing hard (they have denver at home next week)

HJam72
12-27-2009, 03:19 PM
and colts!

Yeah....I just couldn't say it. :thinking:

DerekLee1
12-27-2009, 03:20 PM
We're playing a meaningful game the last week of the season. I am just giddy.

Norg
12-27-2009, 03:21 PM
what if denver winz out but balty losses out or vise versa

there a 2 wildcard spots cant we take one and leave the other to denver or balty


WC spots

Denver
Houston

or

WC spots

Balty
Houston


how will that work ???

Drew_Smoke
12-27-2009, 03:21 PM
We're playing a meaningful game the last week of the season. I am just giddy.

That makes 2 of us. Sunday is gonna be a great atmosphere.

Hopefully the weather cooperates.

Brandon420tx
12-27-2009, 03:22 PM
Go Eagles! :fans: :specnatz:

Well things starting off good on that game HAHA.

Orton backwards pass scooped up by Eagles for the walk in TD.

Lucky
12-27-2009, 03:22 PM
Texans must beat the Pats JV next week.
The Raiders need to beat the Ravens, next week.
The Jets need to lose at Indy today, because they'll get the Bengals JV next week.
Broncos only need one win, and get KC at Denver next week. They're in.

Had the Texans picked up one win one in week 9 through week 13. Just one....

Kaiser Toro
12-27-2009, 03:23 PM
Texans must beat the Pats JV next week.
The Raiders need to beat the Ravens, next week.
The Jets need to lose at Indy today, because they'll get the Bengals JV next week.
Broncos only need one win, and get KC at Denver next week. They're in.

Had the Texans picked up one win one in week 9 through week 13. Just one....

Aren't the Pats still playing for seeding against the Bengals?

Brandon420tx
12-27-2009, 03:23 PM
what if denver winz out but balty losses out or vise versa

there a 2 wildcard spots cant we take one and leave the other to denver or balty


WC spots

Denver
Houston

or

WC spots

Balty
Houston


how will that work ???

We need either Balt to lose thier last game, and the Jets to lose 1 game, and we need to win the next game for it to be

Denver
Houston

We need Broncos to lose both games, Jets to lose 1 game and we need to win the next game for it to be

Baltimore
Houston

Kaiser Toro
12-27-2009, 03:24 PM
Well things starting off good on that game HAHA.

Orton backwards pass scooped up by Eagles for the walk in TD.

It was over turned

Goatcheese
12-27-2009, 03:24 PM
http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/mr-burns-excellent.jpg

Leahmic223
12-27-2009, 03:24 PM
what if denver winz out but balty losses out or vise versa

there a 2 wildcard spots cant we take one and leave the other to denver or balty


WC spots

Denver
Houston

or

WC spots

Balty
Houston


how will that work ???

Need one of those teams to lose out, would be great if both happened.

Also Denver vs KC is a rivalry game, so at least there is that...there is also a trend of Oakland winning against teams they are not supposed to...so hopefully...but Jets must lose first, I think Peyton wants to one up Brady and have the perfect season.

Ryan
12-27-2009, 03:24 PM
Texans must beat the Pats JV next week.
The Raiders need to beat the Ravens, next week.
The Jets need to lose at Indy today, because they'll get the Bengals JV next week.
Broncos only need one win, and get KC at Denver next week. They're in.

Had the Texans picked up one win one in week 9 through week 13. Just one....

This upsets me.

Brandon420tx
12-27-2009, 03:25 PM
Well things starting off good on that game HAHA.

Orton backwards pass scooped up by Eagles for the walk in TD.

BOO Challenged and overruled. It was at most sideways no way forward. BOO

Norg
12-27-2009, 03:27 PM
i think if balty and denver both lose out and jets winz out wouldnt it be

WC spot

Jets
Houston


that would mean i think WC round

Jets vs houston in New york .......:gun:

if we do win a Wc spot who will we be playing the first round and are we looking at a one and done ????

Runner
12-27-2009, 03:33 PM
Had the Texans picked up one win one in week 9 through week 13. Just one....

I think you are focusing too much on wins and losses.

GuerillaBlack
12-27-2009, 03:34 PM
i think if balty and denver both lose out and jets winz out wouldnt it be

WC spot

Jets
Houston


that would mean i think WC round

Jets vs houston in New york .......:gun:

if we do win a Wc spot who will we be playing the first round and are we looking at a one and done ????

We're getting too ahead of ourselves here. We need to keep playing the pessimism card in order to make it. I believe in jinxes. ;)

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 03:35 PM
indy 7-0 up!

nut
12-27-2009, 03:37 PM
what exactly do we need to make the playoffs after beating the fish?

Norg
12-27-2009, 03:38 PM
what exactly do we need to make the playoffs after beating the fish?


alot of teams to lose LOL

Denver
Balty
Jets

and who else ????

Goatcheese
12-27-2009, 03:38 PM
what exactly do we need to make the playoffs after beating the fish?

Jets Loss, and one of the WC leaders to lose.

b0ng
12-27-2009, 03:43 PM
what exactly do we need to make the playoffs after beating the fish?

Are you a religious person? If so the answer to your question is "prayer and miracles"

edo783
12-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Baltimore has lost. Just Jets and Denver yet to help us. We are still in it no matter what, but the games next week that we would need losers in are much less likely to happen than they are this week.

HJam72
12-27-2009, 03:47 PM
Right now we need Indy to beat NYJ and Philly to beat Denver. If the Jets win, they will take one of the 2 playoff spots we are fighting for....and we'll be down to fighting for just one. 'Course, they have to beat the Colts first...

Lucky
12-27-2009, 03:53 PM
alot of teams to lose LOL

Denver
Balty
Jets

and who else ????
Well, New England needs to lose next week.

We need either Balt to lose thier last game, and the Jets to lose 1 game, and we need to win the next game for it to be

Denver
Houston

We need Broncos to lose both games, Jets to lose 1 game and we need to win the next game for it to be

Baltimore
Houston
How about this one
Texans over Pats
Broncos lose to Eagles & Chiefs
Ravens lose to Raiders
Jets win at Indy and home versus Bengals

Jets get 5th seed
Texans get 6th

Or
Texans over Pats
Broncos lose to Eagles & Chiefs
Ravens lose to Raiders
Jets lose at Indy or home versus Bengals
Steelers win @ Miami

Texans get 5th seed
Steelers get 6th seed

Crazy stuff in a year in which seems like no one really wants to go to the playoffs.

HJam72
12-27-2009, 03:56 PM
Not the most important think in and of itself, but we have now passed Jax and Ten to regain 2nd place in our division. We need to stay there for a lot of reasons. I'm sick and tired of being AFC South pansies.

False Start
12-27-2009, 04:04 PM
10-0 Eagles.

Lucky
12-27-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm sick and tired of being AFC South pansies.
1-5 versus AFC South
7-2 versus rest of the league

They're still pansies, as far as the AFC South rivals are concerned.

The Texans took care of business outside of the division. Which many predicted, considering the schedule. 3-3 in division, and they're packing for the playoffs.

Ryan
12-27-2009, 04:08 PM
Kinda sucks that we have to rely on the chiefs and/or raiders to get us into the playoffs. :gun:

Important thing is, we have to take care of our business first.

Damn i sound like Kubiak.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 04:10 PM
Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Colts beat the Jets

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Bengals beat the Jets

Case 3
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Colts beat the Jets, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 4
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 5
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 6
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Colts beat the Jets, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

Case 7
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

Case 8
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

In other words, go everybody on the left side of that list.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHWeuQyFouo&feature=related :smiliedance:

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 04:10 PM
Kinda sucks that we have to rely on the chiefs and/or raiders to get us into the playoffs. :gun:

Important thing is, we have to take care of our business first.

Damn i sound like Kubiak.

Now just mutter to yourself "It's on me" and get a Denny's menu to stare at when bad things happen and you'd have him down pat.

Fred
12-27-2009, 04:11 PM
Not the most important think in and of itself, but we have now passed Jax and Ten to regain 2nd place in our division. We need to stay there for a lot of reasons. I'm sick and tired of being AFC South pansies.
I'm sick and tired of having to go to the morgue to find people to go to the "schedule balancing" game against Cleveland. I can probably find living people willing to go to a game against Baltimore or Pittsburgh. Avoid 4th place! No Browns in Reliant in 2010!

Heath Shuler
12-27-2009, 04:35 PM
Spot #5 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Colts beat the Jets, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 3
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Colts beat the Jets, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

Case 4
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins




Spot #6 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Colts beat the Jets

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Bengals beat the Jets

Case 3
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Colts beat the Jets, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 4
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 5
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Eagles beat the Broncos

Case 6
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Colts beat the Jets, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

Case 7
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

Case 8
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:10 PM
Colts over NY 15-10
Philly over Denver 20-10

3rd qtr

Kaiser Toro
12-27-2009, 05:14 PM
This still feels like Christmas. Colts sack Sanchez. :fingergun:

jaayteetx
12-27-2009, 05:16 PM
Looks like Colts are taking Manning out, man, that sucks.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:17 PM
Looks like Colts are taking Manning out, man, that sucks.

http://www.lovehkfilm.com/blog/roninonempty/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/no-darth_vader.jpg

Pollardized
12-27-2009, 05:17 PM
Damn, Peyton is out. Colts still trying to screw Texans...

Kaiser Toro
12-27-2009, 05:18 PM
Looks like Colts are taking Manning out, man, that sucks.

Painter is an artist under Center.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:18 PM
Painter is an artist under Center.

That's just wrong. :foottap:





LOL

Hooston Texan
12-27-2009, 05:20 PM
Looks like Colts are taking Manning out, man, that sucks.

Screw you, too, Indy.
But that's what happens when you put your season in someone else's hands.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:20 PM
shit curtis painter is in

barrett
12-27-2009, 05:22 PM
DAMNIT

this was a scenario I thought could be interesting. We'd get the Pats in back to back weeks.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=40051001&16=15101455


here's my scenario if the Colts blow this for me.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=40051401&16=15141455

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:22 PM
in better news,philly now up 17

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:23 PM
Damn, Peyton is out. Colts still trying to screw Texans...

That's what I was thinking. I've never rooted for the Colts before, but I have been cheering their asses on today. Go COLTS! :fans:

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 05:25 PM
Painter blows put Manning back in.

Spled
12-27-2009, 05:25 PM
So much for the Colts beating the Jets.

DerekLee1
12-27-2009, 05:26 PM
That's what I was thinking. I've never rooted for the Colts before, but I have been cheering their asses on today. Go COLTS! :fans:

Pisses me off that the colts aren't playing to win.

barrett
12-27-2009, 05:26 PM
Painter just fumbled. Jets TD.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:27 PM
What happens to us if they (colts) lose though? We still are technically in it correct?

Kaiser Toro
12-27-2009, 05:27 PM
Painter blows put Manning back in.

You just don't get his work, the dude is a freaking artist. :kitten:

For the love of Lombardi put in Manning!

Norg
12-27-2009, 05:28 PM
if the jets win today does that mean we are out ???

Leahmic223
12-27-2009, 05:28 PM
C'mon Colts, the one game we need you to win...

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:29 PM
****in colts

Spled
12-27-2009, 05:29 PM
I think there's another scenario where the Raiders beat the Ravens.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:30 PM
If the Jets win today, they absolutely NEED to lose against Cincy in wk17.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:31 PM
I think we would still be in the hunt, just makes it a little more difficult because the Jets own the tiebreaker in the head to head. I think that's how it plays out.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:31 PM
If the Jets win today, they absolutely NEED to lose against Cincy in wk17.

and cincy have sweet f' all to play for :(

Leahmic223
12-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Ugh, Colts are *insert blank here* I hope they get blown out the first team they play in the playoffs.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:32 PM
Actually I lied. If Oakland AND Kansas City both win....

Okay, maybe I didn't then.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:32 PM
Put Manning back in the game. You can tell he wants to play and try to finish undefeated. I'd hide the backup's helmet after the next series and run back on to the field. But that's just me.......:thinking:

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:32 PM
denver are done (in this game anyway)

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 05:33 PM
Painter is just horrific. Indy is not only screwing us but their fans too.

Nobody pays to watch Curtis Freakin Painter.

Norg
12-27-2009, 05:36 PM
figure it would be the colts to screw us


i dont doubt them do u really think they wanna play us in the playoffs


do they really wanna play the jets ??????

Buffi2
12-27-2009, 05:36 PM
Painter is just horrific. Indy is not only screwing us but their fans too.

Nobody pays to watch Curtis Freakin Painter.

Amen! I'm glad I'm not a Colts fan - I would be beside myself. This is really a dumb move....and inexcusable.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:36 PM
What sucks is that the Bengals clinched their damn division with their win today so what are they really playing for next week? I don't think they can clinch a bye so what is it for? Can they still get homefield advantage or something? I hope they atleast have a reason to show up and give it their best.

DerekLee1
12-27-2009, 05:37 PM
if the jets win today does that mean we are out ???

No. But they have to lose this week or next week. Baltimore or Denver will also have to lose.

J_R
12-27-2009, 05:37 PM
Starters appear to be done. No Wayne, no Manning, no Clark.

Looks like things just got a little bit harder for us. I thought it was slim to none to begin with - this doesnt help. Hey, at least we can play for a winning season! ;) :rolleyes:

Leahmic223
12-27-2009, 05:38 PM
figure it would be the colts to screw us


i dont doubt them do u really think they wanna play us in the playoffs


do they really wanna play the jets ??????

Yeah, we would be the LAST team they would want to see.

I hope whoever plays them smashes them.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:39 PM
No. But they have to lose this week or next week. Baltimore or Denver will also have to lose.

Didn't they both lose today or are you saying that they both have to lose again next week?

Mailman
12-27-2009, 05:40 PM
Didn't they both lose today or are you saying that they both have to lose again next week?

Jets have to lose one more and either Denver OR Baltimore have to lose out.

sometexansfan
12-27-2009, 05:41 PM
When the Titans needed help getting into the playoffs, the Colts helped them. When we need some help, they screw us. I hope they get obliterated in the divisional round.

barrett
12-27-2009, 05:43 PM
oddly enough, If both the Jets and us win out and Den and Balt loose out both the long shots would squeek in. Jets and Texans. And again we'd get the Pats in back to back weeks.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:45 PM
if the jets win & beat the likely cincy 2nd stringers, we'll need both KC & raiders to beat the ravens and denver

..and denver just scored. this is getting worse by the moment

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:45 PM
TD Denver, still down by 10.

barrett
12-27-2009, 05:46 PM
ugh. even worse.

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 05:46 PM
Yeah, we would be the LAST team they would want to see.

I hope whoever plays them smashes them.

I hope it's the JETS

Mailman
12-27-2009, 05:46 PM
I've never really hated the Colts because they've earned my respect with their undeniable accomplishments, but this crap today pisses me off beyond words. If the game were in hand, I could understand benching their starters, but this is ridiculous.

Did they not learn anything the last time they sat their stars to rest up for the playoffs?

GO CHARGERS

Speedy
12-27-2009, 05:46 PM
Don't forget, there are TWO wildcard spots. If the Jets win today, next week at least 2 of these 3 teams, Jets (vs. Cincy), Ravens (vs. Oak) and Denver (vs. KC), has to lose.

If the ***** Colts could pull it out we'd only need ONE of 2 teams (Ravens or Denver) to lose.

Doesn't matter what Pittsburgh does as the Texans have the tie-breaker over them.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:47 PM
Denver just got the ball again...

barrett
12-27-2009, 05:47 PM
This is like watching us 3 hours ago!!

djohn2oo8
12-27-2009, 05:48 PM
Jim Caldwell is a piece of shit

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:48 PM
This is like watching us 3 hours ago!!

So that's why we're the two-half Texans... :peek:

TD Denver. :gun:

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:48 PM
i may have written off the broncos too early. this is terrible

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 05:49 PM
TD Denver, still down by 10.

Not anymore

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:50 PM
This is too damn confusing.... I'm going to burst a blood vessel in my brain with all of these different scenarios. The safest thing to do is to check back in here after the late games are over and then get a final run down of exactly where we stand. I guess the main thing to ask is: "is there any scenario that can still play out today that will officially knock us out of the playoff?"

Damn...Denver just scored AGAIN! Only down by 3 now.

J_R
12-27-2009, 05:50 PM
27-24 Philly

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:50 PM
This is too damn confusing.... I'm going to burst a blood vessel in my brain with all of these different scenarios. The safest thing to do is to check back in here after the late games are over and then get a final run down of exactly where we stand. I guess the main thing to ask is: "is there any scenario that can still play out today that will officially knock us out of the playoff?"

Damn...Denver just scored AGAIN! Only down by 3 now.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/texansclinch.html

Speedy
12-27-2009, 05:51 PM
Oh, and that's if Denver loses today. If Denver wins, there's only one WC spot avaible for the Texans to take and they'd need both the Jets and Ravens to lose next week.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 05:52 PM
I will say it again: the NFC East is not even close to the AFC South for best division in the NFL.

I cannot believe there are actually posters here who subscribe to that myth.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 05:54 PM
I hate the Jets. Them and their boring ass running game. And i hate the Colts for basically giving them the game.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 05:54 PM
Jets at the 1... damn you whoever that guy is that replaced Dungy...

J_R
12-27-2009, 05:54 PM
About to be 28-15 Jets

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 05:57 PM
I really think that the Colts are going to regret mailing it in the way that they did. Those are still their starters out there getting their asses handed to them by the Jets, not all second stringers. On another note, I can't wait until Manning retires. That team is nothing without him.....period. I understand that their 3rd string QB is in, but their #2 is not even close to Manning caliber either. (although not many QBs in the league are...if I'm being fair)

cdollaz
12-27-2009, 05:57 PM
We have no one to blame since we laid turds against the Jets and twice against the Colts.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 05:58 PM
you can tell some of the colts are pissed with caldwell. why would he even take the chance of upsetting the team by pulling this shit

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 05:58 PM
This will bite the Colts in the ass. The only time they won the Super Bowl was when they didnt rest their starters.

They will get theirs.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 06:00 PM
I hate the Jets. Them and their boring ass running game. And i hate the Colts for basically giving them the game.

I hate Manning for lying to ESPN. It came across the ticker this morning that he was planning on playing the whole game as long as it was "competitive". It was definately competitive when he came out. To his defense though, he was pulled and I did see him trying to convince the coach to let him keep playing. I'd freakin' throw a tantrum and refuse to play in the playoffs if I was him, make them play Painter. Show their asses who's boss Peyton...! :wild:

Big Lou
12-27-2009, 06:01 PM
Leave it to the Colts to beat us even when they don't play, ny losing of all things.


I hate those "multple expletives deleted". (About 30 to be exact)

I'm actually proud of myself for not typing some mean hateful thing about the Colts and wishing bad things upon them!!!!!

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:02 PM
if the jets win today does that mean we are out ???

Not yet.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 06:03 PM
If you look at the ticker on ESPN in about 20 minutes you'll see:

Indianapolis Colts QB Curtis Painter released.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 06:05 PM
Painter INT'd. That's all but it for Indy's streak.

Go Eagles! :woot2:

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 06:05 PM
Stick another nail in the coffin, they're done! I really do think this will bite them in the ass big time. Mentally it will be a tough loss to overcome, whether you played to win or played it safe. A loss is a loss and you can bet your ass that those players were pushing for an undefeated season.

Hervoyel
12-27-2009, 06:05 PM
It's just the way the Texans world works. This reminds me of 2007 when we played the Colts in the second to last game of the season. They had more or less nothing to play for by then but it didn't matter. They were 12-2 coming into that game, had the division sewn up, and couldn't improve their position. New England was on their 16-0 season. The Colts came into Reliant and pounded the crap out of us. Then they go up to Tennessee and inexplicably lay down for the Titans essentially handing Vince Young a trip to the playoffs (He just wins but he wins even more when his counterpart on the opposing team takes the day off).

The Colts wouldn't urinate in our mouths if our throats were on fire. I swear sometimes I think that teams mission in life is to make our teams life as difficult as possible. To make matters worse we again handed them two wins in games we had control over.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 06:05 PM
Colts vs. Jets with Manning: 15-10 Colts

Without Manning: 19-0 Jets

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 06:07 PM
If my coach told me "Hey were going to rest you and the rest of the starters. We'll probably lose our perfect record but you'll be healthy."

"F#$% you coach."

barrett
12-27-2009, 06:07 PM
This is too damn confusing.... I'm going to burst a blood vessel in my brain with all of these different scenarios. The safest thing to do is to check back in here after the late games are over and then get a final run down of exactly where we stand. I guess the main thing to ask is: "is there any scenario that can still play out today that will officially knock us out of the playoff?"

Damn...Denver just scored AGAIN! Only down by 3 now.

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/texansclinch.html


this ones even got pictures!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=40051401&16=15141455

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 06:08 PM
well at least we know what we need now if things stay the same:

-beat the pats

and 2 of the following 3:

-kc to beat denver @ denver
-cincy (2nd stringers?) beat the jets @ NYJ
-raiders to beat Bal @ oakland

our chances were alot better until p[eyton left

utahmark
12-27-2009, 06:09 PM
colts find yet another way to screw us.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 06:10 PM
well at least we know what we need now if things stay the same:

-beat the pats

and 2 of the following 3:

-kc to beat denver @ denver
-cincy (2nd stringers?) beat the jets @ NYJ
-raiders to beat Bal @ oakland

our chances were alot better until p[eyton left

The Colts beat us 3 times this year. This is the F'n cherry on top.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 06:12 PM
On Football Night In America, Dungy was just giving the good ol' spin on the Colt's decision to rest the starters. Dungy is way too biased for that franchise (which I get the connection, but you should be an unbiased commentator in a perfect world) and he will always ride Manning's jock strap. I have a lot of respect for Dungy, but I've seen him disagree with a lot of decisions that other teams make, but I've never heard him say one thing negatively about the Colts. All teams make screwed up choices or decisions....call it fairly or don't call it at all.

cdollaz
12-27-2009, 06:12 PM
The opinion that "the Colts are purposely screwing the Texans, and in the past purposely helped the Titans" is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I don't like the pulling of the starters, but you earn that right when you have gone 14-0. Why should they care about helping, or hurting, any other team? Answer: they dont. They are doing what they think is best for their team.

cdollaz
12-27-2009, 06:14 PM
On Football Night In America, Dungy was just giving the good ol' spin on the Colt's decision to rest the starters. Dungy is way too biased for that franchise (which I get the connection, but you should be an unbiased commentator in a perfect world) and he will always ride Manning's jock strap. I have a lot of respect for Dungy, but I've seen him disagree with a lot of decisions that other teams make, but I've never heard him say one thing negatively about the Colts. All teams make screwed up choices or decisions....call it fairly or don't call it at all.

Considering he made the same choice when he was the coach, how is he not calling it fairly? Obviously he believes in that decision.

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:14 PM
If my coach told me "Hey were going to rest you and the rest of the starters. We'll probably lose our perfect record but you'll be healthy."

"F#$% you coach."

if you said that to my face, you'd be suspended the next week.

utahmark
12-27-2009, 06:14 PM
and what the hell is denver doing. its 27 - 24 with 10min left.

ATXtexanfan
12-27-2009, 06:15 PM
The colts not trying for perfection will cost them. I don't think they match up vs SD. I'm a peyton fan but this is the set up for diaster.

Dan B.
12-27-2009, 06:15 PM
All I know is that I'm going to be ticked if the Jets get in when two playoff teams in a row lay down and play possum.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 06:16 PM
if you said that to my face, you'd be cut the next day

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because #18s are easily replaced.

m5kwatts
12-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Friggin Colts and Caldwell pulling the starters

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 06:18 PM
if you said that to my face, you'd be suspended the next week.

Not if i was Peyton Manning.

utahmark
12-27-2009, 06:20 PM
Not if i was Peyton Manning.

yes you would. suspended for next week and then ready for the playoff's

Ndevine7
12-27-2009, 06:20 PM
i live in NY and im gonna be pissed if the jets get in over us cause the last two teams they play dont give it 100 percent and they hold the tie breaker over us cause they beat us week one. If we played them now we would beat them no doubt

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 06:21 PM
So that Jets game pretty much nuked our chances. I'm curious, who has the tie-breaker between the Jets and the Ravens?

Runner
12-27-2009, 06:22 PM
i live in NY and im gonna be pissed if the jets get in over us cause the last two teams they play dont give it 100 percent and they hold the tie breaker over us cause they beat us week one. If we played them now we would beat them no doubt

If the Texans beat them then, none of this would matter.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 06:24 PM
So that Jets game pretty much nuked our chances. I'm curious, who has the tie-breaker between the Jets and the Ravens?

jets... and if denver somehow win after being 27-10 down, we're more or less done too

Ndevine7
12-27-2009, 06:24 PM
So that Jets game pretty much nuked our chances. I'm curious, who has the tie-breaker between the Jets and the Ravens?

jets control their own destiny if they win out they are in

Buffi2
12-27-2009, 06:24 PM
I agree that this decision is going to hurt Indy. If I were a Colts player and the coach took away my chance at a perfect season, I would be beyond pi**ed. I fear the locker room will not be a happy place for a long time. It is one thing to lose - it is another to have the chance to win taken away from you by a coach sitting half the starters.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 06:26 PM
Considering he made the same choice when he was the coach, how is he not calling it fairly? Obviously he believes in that decision.

I'm speaking for the entire season as well, not just today's game. It's an accumulation of aggrevation that fuels my opinion.

J_R
12-27-2009, 06:27 PM
If the Texans beat them then, none of this would matter.

Yup, if the Texans would've handled their own business throughout the season

keyser
12-27-2009, 06:30 PM
I agree that this decision is going to hurt Indy. If I were a Colts player and the coach took away my chance at a perfect season, I would be beyond pi**ed. I fear the locker room will not be a happy place for a long time. It is one thing to lose - it is another to have the chance to win taken away from you by a coach sitting half the starters.

Yes, it's not like the Colts had "nothing to play for" at this point. If they were 13-1 but had already locked up the division, I'd completley understand it. But, they're playing for a perfect season - that's only happened once in the history of the NFL - it's a historic-type achievement, not just a meaningless game. If you don't think it's a historic achievement, just look at how those Dolphins players still feel about their accomplishment, this many years later. I'd be awfully mad if I were one of those players.

DexmanC
12-27-2009, 06:32 PM
So that Jets game pretty much nuked our chances. I'm curious, who has the tie-breaker between the Jets and the Ravens?

This is why you don't start lackadaisical on Opening Week. We did it
two years in a row now, and it cost us the playoffs. Kubes should still
be fired, based on the totality of his tenure here. But, Bob Mcnair
won't make it happen, and next year we face the NFC East PLUS the
Chargers and Broncos.

Good luck on another 8-8. What will next year's excuse be?

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:33 PM
you can tell some of the colts are pissed with caldwell. why would he even take the chance of upsetting the team by pulling this shit

This isn't a surprise. Caldwell has been saying this would be the plan all week. Play the starters until we get the lead then sit them to prevent injuries. During the telecast I heard one of the talking heads say that they asked Manning if he'd petition to go back in if the Colts got behind and he said, "No, I won't go against the coach's decision".

They might not like it, but they knew.

And when you think about it, New England is in a similar position. The best they can do is finish 11-5. With Indy at 14-1 and SD at 12-3, they have no chance to be one of the two division winners who get a bye week. If they win in the 1st round they'll still be a 2nd rd road team. There's a good chance that Belichick may sit Brady, Moss, and anyone who's slightly nicked in the 2nd half of our game.

J_R
12-27-2009, 06:34 PM
This is why you don't start lackadaisical on Opening Week. We did it
two years in a row now, and it cost us the playoffs. Kubes should still
be fired, based on the totality of his tenure here. But, Bob Mcnair
won't make it happen, and next year we face the NFC East PLUS the
Chargers and Broncos.

Good luck on another 8-8. What will next year's excuse be?

"We have a new OC, give it time."

:rolleyes:

Mailman
12-27-2009, 06:34 PM
Yes, it's not like the Colts had "nothing to play for" at this point. If they were 13-1 but had already locked up the division, I'd completley understand it. But, they're playing for a perfect season - that's only happened once in the history of the NFL - it's a historic-type achievement, not just a meaningless game. If you don't think it's a historic achievement, just look at how those Dolphins players still feel about their accomplishment, this many years later. I'd be awfully mad if I were one of those players.

I'd be especially pissed if I were Manning because it was his opportunity to eclipse Tom Terrific by leading the Colts to the only 19-0 season in NFL history.

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:36 PM
The colts not trying for perfection will cost them. I don't think they match up vs SD. I'm a peyton fan but this is the set up for diaster.

I don't get what you mean. SD has always given the Manning fits. And SD is THE Hot team in the AFC right now. Sitting Manning for a half doesn't change that.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 06:36 PM
This is why you don't start lackadaisical on Opening Week. We did it
two years in a row now, and it cost us the playoffs. Kubes should still
be fired, based on the totality of his tenure here. But, Bob Mcnair
won't make it happen, and next year we face the NFC East PLUS the
Chargers and Broncos.

Good luck on another 8-8. What will next year's excuse be?

i lol everytime i see you make posts like these- you've been diehard anti-kubiak since the beginning.....................














of week 13 when you hung up your pom poms as leader of the kubiak apologists :rolleyes:

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 06:37 PM
This is why you don't start lackadaisical on Opening Week. We did it
two years in a row now, and it cost us the playoffs. Kubes should still
be fired, based on the totality of his tenure here. But, Bob Mcnair
won't make it happen, and next year we face the NFC East PLUS the
Chargers and Broncos.

Good luck on another 8-8. What will next year's excuse be?

Call me stupid, but this team actually toeing the playoff line this late in the season (whether by luck or not) could be what this team needs mentally to give them confidence and give them something to start strong out of the gate for. I know that sounds so cliche and obvious, but being so close may give the players that extra hunger and fire that they have been lacking.

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:38 PM
I hate Manning for lying to ESPN. It came across the ticker this morning that he was planning on playing the whole game as long as it was "competitive". It was definately competitive when he came out. To his defense though, he was pulled and I did see him trying to convince the coach to let him keep playing. I'd freakin' throw a tantrum and refuse to play in the playoffs if I was him, make them play Painter. Show their asses who's boss Peyton...! :wild:

I'd dock you triple whatever a game paycheck was every game you sat. And trade your ass to Detroit next season. yeah, you can work on your "legacy" from Detroit after the whole league sees what a selfish butthead (T.O.) you were.
:D

brakos82
12-27-2009, 06:39 PM
Denver's gonna lose.... :spin:

Mailman
12-27-2009, 06:40 PM
Denver's gonna lose.... :spin:

Are you inviting a whipping from the football gods?

qman_tx
12-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Eagles may have sealed it with Maclin's catch.

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:41 PM
Not if i was Peyton Manning.

ESPECIALLY if you were Peyton "I'm the team leader" Manning.
Nobody is bigger than the team.
Nobody.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 06:43 PM
ESPECIALLY if you were Peyton "I'm the team leader" Manning.
Nobody is bigger than the team.
Nobody.

He is. They are average without him. He is the Greatest of All Time.

qman_tx
12-27-2009, 06:44 PM
Jets winning makes it more difficult

Ndevine7
12-27-2009, 06:45 PM
all we need is 2 of the raiders kc or cinn to come up big and if cinn doesnt rest their starters i dont think the jets can handle them and oak does come up big in big games like last week

Wolf
12-27-2009, 06:46 PM
http://bandew444.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/payton-manning4.jpg
"nobody puts Manning in the corner"

signed,
Johnny Castle

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 06:46 PM
The good news is, assuming we win next week, we cannot be officially eliminated until after our game. The Jets can lock up 1 of the two WC spots early as they have a 1:00 start time but the Ravens and Broncos don't get started until 3:15. We can therefore live in imagination land a little while longer.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 06:46 PM
I'd dock you triple whatever a game paycheck was every game you sat. And trade your ass to Detroit next season. yeah, you can work on your "legacy" from Detroit after the whole league sees what a selfish butthead you were.
:D

Well I left off the sarcasm tag....but I hope you know I wasn't serious.

Having said that, there would be no love loss or crying for me if Manning was to do the above and get traded to Detroit. I would rejoice with song and dance....butt naked in the Galleria!

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 06:48 PM
Well I left off the sarcasm tag....but I hope you know I wasn't serious.

Having said that, there would be no love loss or crying for me if Manning was to do the above and get traded to Detroit. I would rejoice with song and dance....butt naked in the Galleria!

oh.
well...
never mind.
http://www.schludecker.com/images/dblog/inside-snl-radner.jpg
:D

barrett
12-27-2009, 06:53 PM
okay, simple enough. We win and Baltimore or Denver looses and we're in!

Correction. I was wrong.

axman40
12-27-2009, 06:53 PM
The good news is, assuming we win next week, we cannot be officially eliminated until after our game. The Jets can lock up 1 of the two WC spots early as they have a 1:00 start time but the Ravens and Broncos don't get started until 3:15. We can therefore live in imagination land a little while longer.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/South_Park_1110_imaginationland_terrorist_al_qaeda .jpg/230px-South_Park_1110_imaginationland_terrorist_al_qaeda .jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Park_1110_imaginationland_terrorist_al_ qaeda.jpg)
The terrorists have taken Imaginationland!
:fans:

DerekLee1
12-27-2009, 06:53 PM
Any combination of 2 of three teams losing - the Jets, Ravens, and Broncos - plus a victory over NE puts us in. Unlikely, but certainly not impossible. The great thing is that our game will be meaningful the whole way through to the end, and then it's scoreboard watching for the rest of the day.

jaayteetx
12-27-2009, 06:55 PM
Mmm, thoughts to ponder....who should I hate more, the colts or the jets?

barrett
12-27-2009, 06:55 PM
Any combination of 2 of three teams losing - the Jets, Ravens, and Broncos - plus a victory over NE puts us in. Unlikely, but certainly not impossible. The great thing is that our game will be meaningful the whole way through to the end, and then it's scoreboard watching for the rest of the day.

I stand corrected. Thank you.

brakos82
12-27-2009, 06:56 PM
We're eliminated if:

Case 1
Patriots beat the Texans

Case 2
Broncos beat the Chiefs, and
Jets beat the Bengals

Case 3
Ravens beat the Raiders, and
Jets beat the Bengals

Case 4
Ravens beat the Raiders, and
Broncos beat the Chiefs

barrett
12-27-2009, 07:00 PM
Simplified:

Win and

Two of these- Jets, Ravens, Broncos

loose.

ATXtexanfan
12-27-2009, 07:02 PM
I don't get what you mean. SD has always given the Manning fits. And SD is THE Hot team in the AFC right now. Sitting Manning for a half doesn't change that.
Why wait till now till pull him? Peyton is in rythym. Why break that rythym. A week bye could be enough to break his rythym. If the colts don't make the superbowl does this haunt him? I'm a peyton bopper and he needs another bowl to cement his legend. This is bad in my opinion because the chargers are built to beat the colts. 3-4 defense, fearless qb etc.

Cjeremy635
12-27-2009, 07:03 PM
Any combination of 2 of three teams losing - the Jets, Ravens, and Broncos - plus a victory over NE puts us in. Unlikely, but certainly not impossible. The great thing is that our game will be meaningful the whole way through to the end, and then it's scoreboard watching for the rest of the day.

Easy enough to understand. Atleast our damn last game counts for something. It's nice for that to finally happen. Small steps folks, small steps and small milestones. Next year the expectations will be higher and I for one will expect more out of this team. This year I was still on the fence with expectations just for the missing pieces and where our defense was at the beginning. Seeing how our defense has improved and how our offense has handled the injuries and lack of run game, I see this team fixing some of those issues and replacing the cause of the others this offseason. Regardless, I am still holding out that we squeak in this post season.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 07:11 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/47/South_Park_1110_imaginationland_terrorist_al_qaeda .jpg/230px-South_Park_1110_imaginationland_terrorist_al_qaeda .jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:South_Park_1110_imaginationland_terrorist_al_ qaeda.jpg)
The terrorists have taken Imaginationland!
:fans:

There is only one solution. We have to nuke our imagination and then re-imagine the Texans making the playoffs.

cdollaz
12-27-2009, 07:12 PM
Funny that with everyone crying about playoff-bound team's sitting their starters at the end of the season, that may be the exact thing that even gives the Texans a chance to make the playoffs. How many actually think that the Texans would beat the Pats if they Pats had something to play for?

jaayteetx
12-27-2009, 07:14 PM
Funny that with everyone crying about playoff-bound team's sitting their starters at the end of the season, that may be the exact thing that even gives the Texans a chance to make the playoffs. How many actually think that the Texans would beat the Pats if they Pats had something to play for?

I think it could happen, hell, we almost beat them the year they won the super bowl in Houston.....with HWNSNBM!!

jppaul
12-27-2009, 07:16 PM
On football night in America they just mentioned that the Jets are going to have a tough time of it because they are playing the Bengals and the Bengals are going to be playing hard because they are still play for the third seed v. the fourth seed.

That is great news I thought they were going to be starting thier JV.

sometexansfan
12-27-2009, 07:18 PM
On football night in America they just mentioned that the Jets are going to have a tough time of it because they are playing the Bengals and the Bengals are going to be playing hard because they are still play for the third seed v. the fourth seed.

That is great news I thought they were going to be starting thier JV.

Patriots are also fighting for that third seed.

Heath Shuler
12-27-2009, 07:18 PM
Spot #5 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Eagles beat the Broncos, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Bengals beat the Jets

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Bengals beat the Jets




Spot #6 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Bengals beat the Jets

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Eagles beat the Broncos, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Bengals beat the Jets

Case 3
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Eagles beat the Broncos, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos

Case 4
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Bengals beat the Jets

Case 5
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Steelers beat the Dolphins, and
Raiders beat the Ravens, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos

sometexansfan
12-27-2009, 07:19 PM
I think it could happen, hell, we almost beat them the year they won the super bowl in Houston.....with HWNSNBM!!

Actually it was Tony Banks.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 07:19 PM
Funny that with everyone crying about playoff-bound team's sitting their starters at the end of the season, that may be the exact thing that even gives the Texans a chance to make the playoffs. How many actually think that the Texans would beat the Pats if they Pats had something to play for?

I'm still not convinced they are going to lay down for us so we might get a chance to find out. Also, posting the exact same comment in multiple threads is super cool, I wish more people would do that.

jaayteetx
12-27-2009, 07:20 PM
On football night in America they just mentioned that the Jets are going to have a tough time of it because they are playing the Bengals and the Bengals are going to be playing hard because they are still play for the third seed v. the fourth seed.

That is great news I thought they were going to be starting thier JV.

I'm not inspired, Bengals looked lousy today and they had everything on the line. Think its rough on em playing with heavy hearts still.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 07:22 PM
the Bengals are going to be playing hard because they are still play for the third seed v. the fourth seed.


the 3/4 seed makes little to no difference really tbh. i can see cincy giving their players a bye

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 07:26 PM
The Broncos are the ones that are really going to be kicking themselves. They have been in the driver's seat from day 1 and now even if they win they could get squeezed out of the playoffs with Baltimore and NY victories.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 07:26 PM
the 3/4 seed makes little to no difference really tbh. i can see cincy giving their players a bye

Can say the same about New England.

jaayteetx
12-27-2009, 07:28 PM
The Broncos are the ones that are really going to be kicking themselves. They have been in the driver's seat from day 1 and now even if they win they could get squeezed out of the playoffs with Baltimore and NY victories.

The Donkeys got lucky as hell to start the year and this is just their true team showing up is all.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 07:29 PM
Funny that with everyone crying about playoff-bound team's sitting their starters at the end of the season, that may be the exact thing that even gives the Texans a chance to make the playoffs. How many actually think that the Texans would beat the Pats if they Pats had something to play for?

I believe they could. This Texans team is dangerous and very talented, but apparently the only people who can see it are those NFL observers far enough removed from the team and its fanbase to judge them accordingly.

The Texans have been in every game since week 1. There have been no blowouts against them, peppered with a couple of blowout wins for the good guys (Seattle, Oakland, Buffalo). If I'm a fan of another team, I don't discount the Texans as easily as the Texans own fans frequently do.

qman_tx
12-27-2009, 07:32 PM
Cincy beat Jets they play 6th seed
Cincy lose to Jets they play 5th seed.

Possible for Ravens to lose in Oakland

Chiefs rival against Broncos is a big one.

qman_tx
12-27-2009, 07:34 PM
we need 2 of the 3 teams to lose and beat the pats, then were in.

spurstexanstros
12-27-2009, 07:39 PM
Well it was almost the pefect storm today but due to the gutless " I am just as good as Tony Dungy" Caldwell messed it up. Sooo close...i even left the house and didnt watch it for good luck.


Hmmmmmm I wonder if one of those close games we should have won is gonna come back and bite us.

euro-Texan
12-27-2009, 07:42 PM
http://bandew444.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/payton-manning4.jpg
"nobody puts Manning in the corner"

signed,
Johnny Castle

That's an act he knew he was going to ride the pine pony all along.

Mailman
12-27-2009, 07:43 PM
Well it was almost the pefect storm today but due to the gutless " I am just as good as Tony Dungy" Caldwell messed it up. Sooo close...i even left the house and didnt watch it for good luck.


Hmmmmmm I wonder if one of those close games we should have won is gonna come back and bite us.

I'm pretty sure it already has.

Ryan
12-27-2009, 07:45 PM
we need 2 of the 3 teams to lose and beat the pats, then were in.

we can do it.

signed,
Kansas City Chiefs, Oakland Raiders, and Cincinnati Bengals(who have nothing to play for)


Well hey, at least we can say we were right freaking there to making the playoffs, which should give us optimism for next season(again)

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 07:51 PM
This site (http://files.nfl-forecast.com/archives/88) suggests that the Texans have a .38 chance of going to the playoffs.

After last week's win our chances are up to 3.04%. An increase of eight-fold.
We're up from nano-sized to micro-sized.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 07:55 PM
After last week's win our chances are up to 3.04%. An increase of eight-fold.
We're up from nano-sized to micro-sized.

so the chances of us winning & two of the broncos/jets/ravens losing is 3%? give me a break. look im not expecting us to make it or anything but realisically the chances of that happening are in the 10-25% range

brakos82
12-27-2009, 08:02 PM
My site says 13%. More realistic all things considered.

ObsiWan
12-27-2009, 08:24 PM
My site says 13%. More realistic all things considered.

The site I referenced (the same one TC linked to) did not include today's results.
Note that I said, "after last week's win"...

NitroGSXR
12-27-2009, 08:27 PM
Can say the same about New England.

Even if they bring in their JV squad... They went 11-5 with a backup QB. It's going to be a hell game to play. They have quality depth. Something that we don't quite have an extensive locker of.

mariowillshine15
12-27-2009, 08:29 PM
Even if they bring in their JV squad... They went 11-5 with a backup QB. It's going to be a hell game to play. They have quality depth. Something that we don't quite have an extensive locker of.

I think it depends on if Moss and Welker play. Yea they are a handful but if the backup WRs are in we should pin our ears back and blast the backup QB Hoyer.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 08:33 PM
Another thing to look at with New England is their road record this year. 2 wins, one of which was against Tampa in London and another against the Bills. They have had some tough competition for sure but it looks like they have played significantly better football at home this season where they are undefeated.

Speedy
12-27-2009, 08:34 PM
Cincy lose to Jets they play 5th seed.



Which could quite possibly be the Jets again. I think the Bengals would be doing themselves a favor if they go ahead and take the Jets out now.

Big Lou
12-27-2009, 09:01 PM
There is only one solution. We have to nuke our imagination and then re-imagine the Texans making the playoffs.

Imaginationland will last a little longer next Sunday.

Jets/Cincy game just switched to the night game.

Jackie Chiles
12-27-2009, 09:02 PM
The good news is, assuming we win next week, we cannot be officially eliminated until after our game. The Jets can lock up 1 of the two WC spots early as they have a 1:00 start time but the Ravens and Broncos don't get started until 3:15. We can therefore live in imagination land a little while longer.

Well, apparently the Bengals and Jets game has been moved to the Sunday night game so none of the teams we need to lose will have played a down before we finish our game. Get your voodoo curses ready.

qman_tx
12-27-2009, 09:06 PM
Which could quite possibly be the Jets again. I think the Bengals would be doing themselves a favor if they go ahead and take the Jets out now.

Exactly. If Bengals win they wont have to face the Jets, they will face 6th seed: Ravens, Broncos, Texans, Steelers, or Jags.

Norg
12-27-2009, 09:24 PM
Exactly. If Bengals win they wont have to face the Jets, they will face 6th seed: Ravens, Broncos, Texans, Steelers, or Jags.


all thoes teams seem tough

But if cincy had a choice iam sure they would rather play the jags or Denver over Ravens and Jets anyday IMO

gary
12-27-2009, 09:38 PM
Are the Texans with a win and a loss by all three teams?

brakos82
12-27-2009, 09:39 PM
Are the Texans with a win and a loss by all three teams?

If all 3 teams lose I think we get 5 seed. Don't hold me to it though.

*goes to look it up.

**Confirmed.

Maddict5
12-27-2009, 09:41 PM
Imaginationland will last a little longer next Sunday.

Jets/Cincy game just switched to the night game.

might help our cause. cincy might want to impress being the SNF game

Exactly. If Bengals win they wont have to face the Jets, they will face 6th seed: Ravens, Broncos, Texans, Steelers, or Jags.

id rather face the jets lol

Hooston Texan
12-27-2009, 10:33 PM
1. If the Texans lose to NE, they're out. So the rest of this post is meaningful only if the Texans beat the Patriots.

2. If any two of the Jets, Ravens and Broncos win, the Texans are out regardless of what happens in our game. A tie by any of those three is just as good as a loss. Had Indy not thrown away today's game, we'd need only one loss by either the Ravens or Broncos to get in. Pound sand, Bill Polian.

3. If any one of the Jets, Ravens and Broncos win, the Texans are the 6 seed with the sole winner among the other three being the 5 seed. A tie involving NYJ/Balt/Den is just as good as a loss as far as we're concerned.

3(a). If the Ravens or Broncos are the sole winner among Balt/Den/NYJ, then that sole winner is the 5 seed and plays NE. The Patriots--whom we must beat to make it--would finish 10-6 while the Bengals finish 11-5 (by beating the Jets) and get the 3 seed. We play Cincy while the Ravens or Broncos play NE.

3(b). If the Ravens and Broncos lose but the Jets beat Cincy, then two week 17 games will get immediately replayed in different stadiums. We'll be the 6 seed and travel to 3rd seeded NE while the Jets will be the 5 seed and travel to 4 seed Cincy.

4. If the Jets, Ravens and Broncos all lose (and we win), we're the 5 seed and play at NE. If Pittsburgh also wins, they're the 6 seed. If Pittsburgh loses, I neither know nor care who gets the 6 seed. All that matters is that we're in!!

jppaul
12-27-2009, 10:46 PM
All things considered this is actually pretty exciting. No, we don't control our own destiny, but hey we have a chance, and we are talking about the playoffs in week 17. Wild.

pbat488
12-27-2009, 10:50 PM
Some others might've posted already, but this is a nice and to the point summary of what we need to happen..

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/texansclinch.html

HTown2ATX
12-28-2009, 08:41 AM
1. If the Texans lose to NE, they're out. So the rest of this post is meaningful only if the Texans beat the Patriots.

2. If any two of the Jets, Ravens and Broncos win, the Texans are out regardless of what happens in our game. A tie by any of those three is just as good as a loss. Had Indy not thrown away today's game, we'd need only one loss by either the Ravens or Broncos to get in. Pound sand, Bill Polian.

3. If any one of the Jets, Ravens and Broncos win, the Texans are the 6 seed with the sole winner among the other three being the 5 seed. A tie involving NYJ/Balt/Den is just as good as a loss as far as we're concerned.

3(a). If the Ravens or Broncos are the sole winner among Balt/Den/NYJ, then that sole winner is the 5 seed and plays NE. The Patriots--whom we must beat to make it--would finish 10-6 while the Bengals finish 11-5 (by beating the Jets) and get the 3 seed. We play Cincy while the Ravens or Broncos play NE.

3(b). If the Ravens and Broncos lose but the Jets beat Cincy, then two week 17 games will get immediately replayed in different stadiums. We'll be the 6 seed and travel to 3rd seeded NE while the Jets will be the 5 seed and travel to 4 seed Cincy.

4. If the Jets, Ravens and Broncos all lose (and we win), we're the 5 seed and play at NE. If Pittsburgh also wins, they're the 6 seed. If Pittsburgh loses, I neither know nor care who gets the 6 seed. All that matters is that we're in!!


MAN! I was so pissed last night! Eff you Polian and Caldwell! Eff you! Don't they realize that every time the Colts have rested people they lose in the playoffs. Did'nt they win the SB when they had to go through the wild card and could not rest anyone? I think that's right. What a joke. I'm still so pissed about that. Our chances would have been sooooooo much better had their pee-pee's not shrank up and they beat the jets.

Everything was falling into place.

C'mon Texans and c'mon all other AFC teams to lose!!!!!!:kitten:

Mr. White
12-28-2009, 08:52 AM
Some others might've posted already, but this is a nice and to the point summary of what we need to happen..

http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/texansclinch.html

From this link.....

Spot #5 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Raiders beat the Ravens

Spot #6 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Raiders beat the Ravens

Case 3
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Raiders beat the Ravens

I predict we'll be seeing the Texans on the golf course the first week of the playoffs. Not sure I see all these dominoes falling.

Goatcheese
12-28-2009, 09:14 AM
From this link.....


Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos

I predict we'll be seeing the Texans on the golf course the first week of the playoffs. Not sure I see all these dominoes falling.

The Bengals beating the Jets isn't much of a stretch, and the Broncos are 2 and 7 in their last 9 games.

Livid13
12-28-2009, 09:23 AM
Bottom line.....we have a pulse, a feint one, but a pulse .

Ole Miss Texan
12-28-2009, 09:30 AM
Havn't posted in a long time but this thread makes me excited! It's going to be tough but it can definitely happen.

If we make the playoffs, I think we actually have a great chance of advancing, here's how:

Texans beat the Patriots (this I think we can do).
Bengals beat the Jets (this I think they can do).
Chiefs beat the Broncos (tough but they have the chance to knock a division rival out of the playoffs).

Then we'd face the Bengals in Round 1 (Wildcard) - We already beat them this year.

Then we'd face the Colts in Round 2 (Divisional) - We lost both games against them ourselves... we get them the 3rd time.

Then we'd face the Chargers/Ravens/Patriots in Round 3 (AFC Championship) - This would be our toughest matchup, most likely play the Chargers. But its the AFC Championship game! Do that and we're this year's Cardinals.

utahmark
12-28-2009, 10:06 AM
cinn may not even want to win sunday night. i mean we did go to cinn and beat them once already this year. why would they want to beat new york and face us again? i don't really think an nfl team would "throw" a game but they sure don't have anything to play for.

MojoMan
12-28-2009, 10:19 AM
Here is a detailed explanation of how the Texans can clinch either of the wildcard spots at PlayoffStatus.com (http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/texansclinch.html)

Spot #5 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Raiders beat the Ravens

Spot #6 - Wildcard

Case 1
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos

Case 2
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Bengals beat the Jets, and
Raiders beat the Ravens

Case 3
Texans beat the Patriots, and
Chiefs beat the Broncos, and
Raiders beat the Ravens

What I had not really thought of is that the Texans can still win the first wildcard spot, and not only the second. Of course, it is unlikely they win either, but I am still hoping.

Kaiser Toro
12-28-2009, 10:25 AM
cinn may not even want to win sunday night. i mean we did go to cinn and beat them once already this year. why would they want to beat new york and face us again? i don't really think an nfl team would "throw" a game but they sure don't have anything to play for.

If the Pats beat us, then they have nothing to play for. I would rather play us than the Jets, if I were Cincy.

hookinreds
12-28-2009, 10:26 AM
If the Pats beat us, then they have nothing to play for. I would rather play us than the Jets, if I were Cincy.

Booooooo!

TheRealJoker
12-28-2009, 10:27 AM
Only way we can avoid a rematch in the 1st round with the Pats is if the Bengals beat the Jets and the Ravens or Broncos lose their game as well. That seems like a bit too much wishful thinking to try to position ourselves for an "easier" opening round playoff game though...

I don't care if we have to rematch the Pats the very next week, I just want to see the Texans finally make the playoffs!!!

utahmark
12-28-2009, 10:45 AM
If the Pats beat us, then they have nothing to play for. I would rather play us than the Jets, if I were Cincy.

why? we have already proven we could beat them. jets would'nt even be in the playoff picture if the colt's had'nt laid down.

Kaiser Toro
12-28-2009, 10:49 AM
why? we have already proven we could beat them. jets would'nt even be in the playoff picture if the colt's had'nt laid down.

I am wary of teams who come into a one and done format with the #1 Defense and #1 Rushing attack.

utahmark
12-28-2009, 10:59 AM
I am wary of teams who come into a one and done format with the #1 Defense and #1 Rushing attack.

fair enough!

DeMarCushPoll
12-28-2009, 11:23 AM
If the Texans take care of their business, I think they'll make it in because:

1. KC will come to play at Denver. That is one of the biggest hated rivalries in all of sports and KC knocking them out of the playoffs would be the next best thing to winning the SB.

2. Dungy picked Cincy over the Jets.


That's good enough for me.

BIG TORO
12-28-2009, 11:37 AM
Can someone tell me why Pittsburg does not matter to us, because there 8-7 also?

infantrycak
12-28-2009, 11:40 AM
Can someone tell me why Pittsburg does not matter to us, because there 8-7 also?

Because we hold the tiebreaker of common opponents against them. If we both finish 9-7 we get priority over them.

BIG TORO
12-28-2009, 11:42 AM
Because we hold the tiebreaker of common opponents against them. If we both finish 9-7 we get priority over them.

cool thanks!

treduke
12-28-2009, 11:59 AM
i'm gonna man up and admit after the 2nd jax loss i lost alot of hope for the playoffs but if the texans win sunday i'll will be the biggest chiefs fan outside of kc!
and the pink soap is down...........for now!

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-28-2009, 12:10 PM
Division record isn't used as a tiebreaker?

Texan_Bill
12-28-2009, 12:13 PM
Division record isn't used as a tiebreaker?

IIRC, only if you're competing for a spot against a divisional foe. For example, if Jax and the Titans hadn't lost, they would own the tiebreaker over us.

BIG TORO
12-28-2009, 12:20 PM
Colts screwed us over, we would only need one loss by either ravens or broncos, but Bengals will hopefully finish the jets off.

TD
12-28-2009, 12:21 PM
Don't know if it was posted, but this Yahoo! site is fun.

Playoff Scenario Generator (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=currentStandings)

***oops..now I see it was .... Still fun :)

TD
12-28-2009, 12:25 PM
Even though the Texans likely won't make it, its fun to be part of the "hair above mediocre" crowd who gets to play with stuff in the final week. :D

BIG TORO
12-28-2009, 12:26 PM
Don't know if it was posted, but this Yahoo! site is fun.

Playoff Scenario Generator (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=currentStandings)

***oops..now I see it was .... Still fun :)

yea but no matter what scenario you type in they exclude the texans

TD
12-28-2009, 12:40 PM
yea but no matter what scenario you type in they exclude the texans

Not true.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=50051401&16=15105155

and

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=50051401&16=15145115

and

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/playoffscenario?algorithm=custom&15=50051401&16=15145155

Did you remember to make Houston win their game first? ;)

mattieuk
12-28-2009, 12:43 PM
yea but no matter what scenario you type in they exclude the texans

It takes some clicking to alter other teams, but it does look lovely to get the Texans helmet in the wildcard matchups!

ObsiWan
12-28-2009, 12:51 PM
Even though the Texans likely won't make it, its fun to be part of the "hair above mediocre" crowd who gets to play with stuff in the final week. :D

I do believe this is a first.
Mods, Original Members, correct me if that's wrong.
But I do believe this is brand new territory for the Texans to actually have a shot to make the playoffs.

...yeah, it's fun.

pbat488
12-28-2009, 02:05 PM
I do believe this is a first.
Mods, Original Members, correct me if that's wrong.
But I do believe this is brand new territory for the Texans to actually have a shot to make the playoffs.

...yeah, it's fun.

2007, 2-0, we were on top of the world... then gravity hit.

brakos82
12-28-2009, 02:06 PM
2007, 2-0, we were on top of the world... then gravity hit.

But how are you flying? :mcnugget:

thunderkyss
12-28-2009, 04:21 PM
I do believe this is a first.
Mods, Original Members, correct me if that's wrong.
But I do believe this is brand new territory for the Texans to actually have a shot to make the playoffs.

...yeah, it's fun.

With all this talk, it makes me wonder.

Will 9-7 be enough?

Or, does losing the way we lost our 4 division games in a row going to totally eclipse our first winning season?

Is 9-7 progress? If all that matters is W-Ls... is it progress?

I'm thinking the Patriots are going to rest their starters, we'll win, & our first winning season is going to have an asterisk.

Double Barrel
12-28-2009, 04:33 PM
No asterisk for me. Scoreboard is scoreboard, no matter how you get there. If we should finish 9-7 - making or missing the playoffs - I see progress. I can't be unhappy about our first winning season. :)

NitroGSXR
12-28-2009, 04:59 PM
With all this talk, it makes me wonder.

Will 9-7 be enough?

Or, does losing the way we lost our 4 division games in a row going to totally eclipse our first winning season?

Is 9-7 progress? If all that matters is W-Ls... is it progress?

I'm thinking the Patriots are going to rest their starters, we'll win, & our first winning season is going to have an asterisk.

Lol. Asterisk? Plenty of teams have backdoored their way into the playoffs. In fact, it happens every season. I'll be overjoyed if we make it. Would you want an asterisk if we pulled an Arizona Cardinals run?

spurstexanstros
12-28-2009, 05:29 PM
With all this talk, it makes me wonder.

Will 9-7 be enough?

Or, does losing the way we lost our 4 division games in a row going to totally eclipse our first winning season?

Is 9-7 progress? If all that matters is W-Ls... is it progress?

I'm thinking the Patriots are going to rest their starters, we'll win, & our first winning season is going to have an asterisk.

asterisk smasterik..... no such thing. Phil dropped one on us and every time I go to the AT&T center i still cant find the asterisk on any one of those trophies.

thunderkyss
12-28-2009, 11:05 PM
Lol. Asterisk? Plenty of teams have backdoored their way into the playoffs. In fact, it happens every season. I'll be overjoyed if we make it. Would you want an asterisk if we pulled an Arizona Cardinals run?

I'm saying if they don't make it into the play-offs, & the "pro Kubiak" crowd brings up 9-7, will the "soap-on-a-rope" club not acknowledge (the one point they've been making) that the W-L is all that matters, and concede progress?


Or will they harp on the division record & our 0-4 losing streak, & pointlessly remind us that they are only 9-7 because the last game of the season was meaningless?

NitroGSXR
12-28-2009, 11:38 PM
I'm saying if they don't make it into the play-offs, & the "pro Kubiak" crowd brings up 9-7, will the "soap-on-a-rope" club not acknowledge (the one point they've been making) that the W-L is all that matters, and concede progress?


Or will they harp on the division record & our 0-4 losing streak, & pointlessly remind us that they are only 9-7 because the last game of the season was meaningless?

Meaningless? If we're 9-7, the season will NOT be meaningless. We will be in the hunt for an additional three hours at minimum. Nothing has been meaningless. We can reflect as to the losses if we end up being eliminated but if we're in... No asterisk necessary. It's a ridiculous notion but i respect your line of thinking. I don't agree with it on any level. We're in the thick of it all at 9-7 and i'll take it. That's life in the NFL. You take what you get and you play football.

thunderkyss
12-29-2009, 04:57 AM
Meaningless? If we're 9-7, the season will NOT be meaningless. We will be in the hunt for an additional three hours at minimum. Nothing has been meaningless. We can reflect as to the losses if we end up being eliminated but if we're in... No asterisk necessary. It's a ridiculous notion but i respect your line of thinking. I don't agree with it on any level. We're in the thick of it all at 9-7 and i'll take it. That's life in the NFL. You take what you get and you play football.

I agree with you whole heartedly.

whiskeyrbl
12-29-2009, 05:20 AM
I do believe this is a first.
Mods, Original Members, correct me if that's wrong.
But I do believe this is brand new territory for the Texans to actually have a shot to make the playoffs.

...yeah, it's fun.

It is for sure going into the last game of the season.

Thorn
12-29-2009, 06:58 AM
At least the final game of the season has some meaning to it, other than just being the last live game before the dreaded offseason.

I am not holding out any hopes for post season though, it just doesn't seem like the city of Houston has any damn luck when it comes to pro sports. But even reality doesn't take away from the fact we are actually playing a meaningful game the last week of the season. :)

TD
12-29-2009, 08:18 AM
When are they gonna post the @#$% TV map? The one positive of Indy taking a dive is that the Texans now have the best early match-up on CBS.....I am hopeful. :D

TEXANS84
12-29-2009, 08:44 AM
From raiderfans.net:

we might have a chance

it seems like we win one and tank the next week


win at KC
next week we tank against Denver

beat philly
next week we tank against the jets

beat cin
next week we tank against dallas

beat pitt
next week we tank against washington

beat denver
well tank against the browns


so we are due for a win

HJam72
12-29-2009, 08:44 AM
Not gonna happen. This is what I'm looking at:

NE @ Houston "Houston W"
Pitt @ Miami "Miami L"----This could go either way, since it's in Miami, but look what these teams did this week...
Balt @ Oakland "Oakland L"
KC @ Denver "KC L"
Cin @ NY Jets "Cincinatti L"


We're gonna be the best team not to make the playoffs this year. :brickwall:

TEXANS84
12-29-2009, 08:47 AM
Remember how Philadephia got in last year? It required an "act of god".
It happened.
Here was their scenario that actually rolled their direction:

The Eagles still can make the playoffs after coming up small at Washington earlier today, but they need some funky things to happen next week.

First, they have to beat the Cowboys. Second, Tampa Bay has to lose at home to Oakland.

Providing that criteria is met, the Eagles will also need either Minnesota to lose to the Giants or the Bears to lose one of their two final games -- to Green Bay tomorrow night or to Houston next Sunday.

Forget ties. For example, if the Eagles and Bears wind up with the same record, the Bears go by virtue of beating the Eagles head-to-head. If the Eagles and Vikings wind up with the same record, the Vikings will go because of the second tiebreaker (best record in the conference).

So suffice it to say that the Eagles aren't in very good shape, because for the Bucs to lose at home to Oakland next week, it will require an act of God, and he's got way too much on his plate right now to be worrying about what's going on in the NFL.

LINK (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/nick-fierro/index.ssf/2008/12/definitive_eagles_playoff_scen.html)

ObsiWan
12-29-2009, 09:05 AM
Remember how Philadephia got in last year? It required an "act of god".
It happened.
Here was their scenario that actually rolled their direction:



LINK (http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/nick-fierro/index.ssf/2008/12/definitive_eagles_playoff_scen.html)

I'd forgotten all about this saga
and we helped them by beating the Bears

TD
12-29-2009, 11:28 AM
Remember how Philadephia got in last year? It required an "act of god".
It happened.

I am just hoping we don't get the "act of God" and then not capitalize ala a certain other team a few years ago.

The Curse > Vince Young.

There's no way the Titans make the playoffs. All they needed was:

KC to beat Jacksonville - Check
Pittsburgh to beat Cincinnati - Check
SF to beat Denver - Check!?!?

Win their own game - D'OH!!

Only in Hous......I mean Nashville. THANKS BUD!!!!

GuerillaBlack
12-29-2009, 12:54 PM
Well, this year, the Patriots have nothing to play for. They have the home Wild Card game, but have to go on the road from then on. Maybe Bill rests the starters? Maybe??

NitroGSXR
12-29-2009, 01:44 PM
Well, this year, the Patriots have nothing to play for. They have the home Wild Card game, but have to go on the road from then on. Maybe Bill rests the starters? Maybe??

Who gives a shit whether or not who they bench. I know i don't! I'm ready for some hardnosed football. It's all or nothing whoever plays for the patriots. I'm so ready for Sunday.

GuerillaBlack
12-29-2009, 01:54 PM
Who gives a shit whether or not who they bench. I know i don't! I'm ready for some hardnosed football. It's all or nothing whoever plays for the patriots. I'm so ready for Sunday.

Who gives a shit? We should probably give a shit. If the Patriots go all out, I don't see us winning the game. The Texans better come out and play four quarters of football. Something they haven't done all year.