PDA

View Full Version : Steve Slaton to IR


ArlingtonTexan
12-09-2009, 10:34 AM
Texans Slaton will land on injured reserve
Steve Slaton - RB - HOU - Dec. 9 - 10:12 a.m. ET

Steve Slaton (neck) will be placed on injured reserve, ending his season.
Slaton visited a spine specialist about the numbness in his shoulder on Tuesday and obviously got bad news. With Slaton inactive last week, Ryan Moats rushed 12 times and was targeted three times in the passing game. He'll share snaps with Chris Brown for the rest of the season. Slaton's long-term prognosis is unknown, but the Texans will almost certainly look for another back in the draft or free agency.

http://twitter.com/dannyoneil/status/6498557626

Thorn
12-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Horrible news if it is true.

gtexan02
12-09-2009, 10:37 AM
wtf? Spine injury? When did that happen? Possibly career ending?? Sheesh, the Texans ARE snakebit

Hardcore Texan
12-09-2009, 10:38 AM
Par for this course if true.......in context of this season, another big blow. I bet it's accurate given that we brought up Henry already. I hate it for Slaton though, hope makes a full, speedy recovery if true.

Redtexan#34
12-09-2009, 10:39 AM
Just saw an interview on espn news with Adam Shefler and he said Slaton is going on the IR.

TheCD
12-09-2009, 10:39 AM
I swear...number 37 you better not have cursed this team! We seem to have gotten past the Boselli curse, so why not throw another one at us?

No More 8-8's
12-09-2009, 10:44 AM
Yikes if this is true, i feel pretty bad for him. Slaton has done nothing for me not to wish he wasnt on this team next year. Just a couple bad fumbles, but i clearly think he is a good back.

DexmanC
12-09-2009, 10:47 AM
I swear...number 37 you better not have cursed this team! We seem to have gotten past the Boselli curse, so why not throw another one at us?

It's no curse. It's stupidity on the coaches' part. We didn't draft
a mail carrier, and thought Steve could tote the load by himself. Even
Adrian Peterson has Chester Taylor. This is just another reason a change
needs to take place. Kubes. Just because you guys found Terrell Davis
in the 7th Round, doesn't mean you don't need a franchise back.

LonerATO
12-09-2009, 10:52 AM
It's no curse. It's stupidity on the coaches' part. We didn't draft
a mail carrier, and thought Steve could tote the load by himself. Even
Adrian Peterson has Chester Taylor. This is just another reason a change
needs to take place. Kubes. Just because you guys found Terrell Davis
in the 7th Round, doesn't mean you don't need a franchise back.

Its not like they got Steve hurt this year, by throwing him out there by himself. Hell the guy has had to split time with Brown or be set games due to his play.

Goatcheese
12-09-2009, 10:56 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Austrian
12-09-2009, 10:57 AM
This season sucks! Unbelievable.

False Start
12-09-2009, 11:00 AM
Damn, what a bummer. So it looks like we will have a Chris Brown/Moats/Travis Henry RB by committee. :spin:

HOU-TEX
12-09-2009, 11:01 AM
Damn, what a bummer. So it looks like we will have a Chris Brown/Moats/Travis Henry RB by committee. :spin:

Don't forget me, coach.

Signed,

Arian Foster

False Start
12-09-2009, 11:05 AM
Don't forget me, coach.

Signed,

Arian Foster

Oh yeah, maybe hes just not battling enough, and busting his tail enough to get on the field.

DoCRoN
12-09-2009, 11:08 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/09/steve-slaton-out-for-season/

texanfan2002114
12-09-2009, 11:10 AM
I'm sorry but this buggs me and please change it. His name is SLATON, not Slayton!

HOU-TEX
12-09-2009, 11:10 AM
Oh yeah, maybe hes just not battling enough, and busting his tail enough to get on the field.

:lol: That could be the case. If so, we'll get the inevitable "yeah, I should've given the kid a chance to play more" at the end of the season.

Mailman
12-09-2009, 11:12 AM
Just in time for my fantasy football playoff matchup. Ugh.

Slaton was $$$ in ppr.

chicagotexan2
12-09-2009, 11:16 AM
I'm sorry but this buggs me and please change it. His name is SLATON, not Slayton!

I thought it was Salton? Damn, this would really suck. I hope it's not career ending. I like Slaton and I think he is a good back that is having a bad season (compared to last year.)

mexican_texan
12-09-2009, 11:16 AM
Oh yeah, maybe hes just not battling enough, and busting his tail enough to get on the field.
I saw him on special teams. Looks like he dropped the 37.

I would burn my DD jersey in hopes of breaking the curse if it wasn't my only Texans jersey.

Mailman
12-09-2009, 11:19 AM
I'm sorry but this buggs me and please change it. His name is SLATON, not Slayton!

Agreed! He's been a Texan long enough to spell his name correctly.

WesmanTexanfan
12-09-2009, 11:22 AM
just put'em all on IR, that would explain it...

4Texans
12-09-2009, 11:42 AM
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/6761116.html

The Texans have placed running back Steve Slaton on injured reserve, meaning he will not play again this season.

Slaton has been experiencing numbness in his shoulder and thumb and was kept out of Sunday's 23-18 loss at Jacksonville. He visited Dr. Drew Dossett, a Dallas specialist in nerve damage and spinal injuries. Dossett's clients include players from the Dallas Cowboys and Texas Rangers.

The Texans have three running backs on the active roster: Chris Brown, Ryan Moats and Arian Foster. They also have Chris Henry on the practice squad.

Slaton carried the ball 131 times for 437 yards this season, an average of just 3.3 yards per carry. He had three touchdowns and struggled holding on to the ball, fumbling seven times. Five of those were recovered by the other team.

He had more success as a receiver, catching 44 passes for 417 yards and four touchdowns.

No More 8-8's
12-09-2009, 11:48 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4727384


this is from the national media. its true.

Redtexan#34
12-09-2009, 12:35 PM
When I heard about this I thought of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xm1XErUvXo . Then I thought of what Bob McNair will be singing to Kubiak at the end of the season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcYsO890YJY .

Hervoyel
12-09-2009, 12:38 PM
Oh yeah, maybe hes just not battling enough, and busting his tail enough to get on the field.

But he's a good kid and we'll keep working with him right?

gtexan02
12-09-2009, 12:41 PM
maybe he'll lose that extra "muscle" that ruined his game

Goldensilence
12-09-2009, 12:50 PM
Oh yeah, maybe hes just not battling enough, and busting his tail enough to get on the field.

I get the feeling that maybe he's got talent and that would break up Kubaik's man love affair with Chris Brown.

I'll be sick to my stomach is Foster gets carries, looks good, or at least a much more viable alternative to Brown.

I would like to think that this could be the final nail in the coffin for Kubiak, but crosses, garlic, stakes to the heart...nothing seems to work.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 12:55 PM
When I heard about this I thought of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xm1XErUvXo . Then I thought of what Bob McNair will be singing to Kubiak at the end of the season http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcYsO890YJY .
it was game over when we couldn't beat a single divisional foe the last 4 weeks. This is just aftermath stuff.

False Start
12-09-2009, 12:59 PM
But he's a good kid and we'll keep working with him right?

He just needs to learn how to run the HB pass, and hes set. :heh:

disaacks3
12-09-2009, 12:59 PM
New Game show.... Texans got Talent!

Celebrity Juges to include John McClain, Anna Megan & Rich Lord

First Up: Gary Kubiak's juggling act. (4 clipboards worth of scripted plays)

Acts to follow: - Bob McNair delivers deadpan lines in an homage to "Make me Laugh"

Matt Schaub dances to "Hit me with your best shot!"

BigBull17
12-09-2009, 01:07 PM
I get the feeling that maybe he's got talent and that would break up Kubaik's man love affair with Chris Brown.

I'll be sick to my stomach is Foster gets carries, looks good, or at least a much more viable alternative to Brown.

I would like to think that this could be the final nail in the coffin for Kubiak, but crosses, garlic, stakes to the heart...nothing seems to work.

Foster will go ape shit for 150 a game. Watch.

Brando
12-09-2009, 01:16 PM
When it rains it pours.:headhurts:

beerlover
12-09-2009, 01:22 PM
Owen now Steve. Matt could be next? not the Bush bowl, it's the Ndamukong Suh bowl :kitten:

Brisco_County
12-09-2009, 01:23 PM
What I want to know is if his condition is 100% injury related or if he has a genetic predisposition that could affect (or end) his career.

edit: I remember a fumble Slaton had at the beginning of the season where his legs were spun up in the air and he landed on his head. It's possible that could be the moment he jarred his spine.

Goldensilence
12-09-2009, 01:25 PM
Owen now Steve. Matt could be next? not the Bush bowl, it's the Ndamukong Suh bowl :kitten:

We'd have to lose the last four games of the season and then figure out a way to lose prior games we've won to get into the top 3 to get a shot at Suh. Knowing this staff, Kubiak can find a way to do that.

JamesC
12-09-2009, 01:47 PM
I hope Slaton gets well....Also, it would've been nice if they had made an effort to sign Larry Johnson.

GP
12-09-2009, 01:53 PM
We'd have to lose the last four games of the season and then figure out a way to lose prior games we've won to get into the top 3 to get a shot at Suh. Knowing this staff, Kubiak can find a way to do that.

LOL.

Rep your way. Fo sho.

texans3964
12-09-2009, 01:57 PM
i would like to see vonta leach move over to rb and give a try.bet he could move the ball

Brisco_County
12-09-2009, 02:03 PM
From my discussion with CloakNNNdagger on how a cervical vertebra nerve root impingement could affect ball security:

In its most minor form, it's called a "stinger." Stingers are caused by blows to the side of the head that cause stretching, compression or irritation of nerves. This causes a burning sensation in the neck that runs down the arm into the fingers. Numbness, "funny sensations," and weakness are also common in the involved arm and hand.

In this simple form, conservative rest, ice, anti-inflammatory meds, etc. This can last as short as a few seconds or a couple of weeks. The player should return to action only after ALL symptoms are resolved. If the symptoms become chronic (more than a week or 2) or recurrent, plain films of the neck, as well as an MRI or CT scan must be obtained, because this usually heralds signs of much more serious anatomical damage (eg., ruptured cervical disc, compression fracture, significant brachial nerve plexus injury). This is why it is so important for the player to be immediately perfectly honest about the presence of symptoms, and for the coach to immediately pull the player from game play action, no matter what the situation is. Otherwise, extension of the injury is likely. This is why a coach should never let a player "play through" a stinger.

And yes, such an injury could very well lead to inaccurate "feed back" by the nerves and muscles of the hand and arm to the brain, as to how tight the ball is being held and where the ball is in relation of the hand and arm as well as relation where the ball is "in space" in general. Hope that answers your question.

The neural feedback that CND describes here could explain the sudden emergence of consistent fumbling issues by a player who went the previous season with only two fumbles. There's such a stark contrast between the two seasons that it's very possible the problem was more physiological than mental.

I'm not buying the idea that the cause was the extra weight. All NFL players put on mass without completely losing their game. And a rookie wall isn't going to cause a guy to go from dependable to playing with Crisco on his fingers.

BigBull17
12-09-2009, 02:04 PM
We'd have to lose the last four games of the season and then figure out a way to lose prior games we've won to get into the top 3 to get a shot at Suh. Knowing this staff, Kubiak can find a way to do that.

I just hope one of the really good Safties fall a lil. Maybe we can move up for one.

imatexan
12-09-2009, 02:24 PM
How big was not signing Cedric Benson?

:wild:

gtexan02
12-09-2009, 03:43 PM
How big was not signing Cedric Benson?

:wild:

The other Cinci running backs have filled in nicely for Benson when he was hurt. LJ sucked in KC, and did well in Cinci. I think thats more scheme than personnel.

Our run blocking has been horrible this year. No reason to believe Benson would have been successful here

TheRealJoker
12-09-2009, 03:51 PM
How big was not signing Cedric Benson?

:wild:

Depends on how you think he'd run behind the worst interior OL in the league.

CloakNNNdagger
12-09-2009, 04:50 PM
With past history of team-generated injury information, it's very difficult to believe much about the actual temporal course of events that led up to the removal of Slaton from the lineup or the "prognosis" put forth. I wish Steve well and, hopefully a return to action...........someday.


"They think it'll heal on its own here over the course of the 4-6 weeks. This is not career-threatening. Steve's going to be fine. He will play and play well.

"Everything's going to be OK, but they just said that right now he does not need to be taking any hits over the course of the next month."

Numbness

Slaton, the Texans' leading rusher and second-leading pass-catcher, missed the team's week 13 defeat at Jacksonville after suffering numbness in the tip of his right thumb.

He visited a Dallas-area specialist to be evaluated and will return in 4-6 weeks for a re-evaluation, with surgery a possibility depending on his recovery.

"It's my understanding that it could be something that could require that, if it doesn't heal on its own," added Kubiak.

"But even if they had to do that, he will be fine and he'll be back ready to go next year."


LINK (http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12118_5761733,00.html)

DerekLee1
12-09-2009, 05:12 PM
I'll be sick to my stomach is Foster gets carries, looks good, or at least a much more viable alternative to Brown.

Why? Foster has had all season to prepare, watch, work with coaches, and learn. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he and came out and performed well. In addition, if teams see him in there, they're not going to throw everything they've got at him like they would Slaton. Why do you think Brown and Moats get off like they do at times?

Vinny
12-09-2009, 05:16 PM
Why? Foster has had all season to prepare, watch, work with coaches, and learn. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he and came out and performed well. In addition, if teams see him in there, they're not going to throw everything they've got at him like they would Slaton. Why do you think Brown and Moats get off like they do at times?
Backs generally have "it" or they don't...that's why you don't see too many feature backs coming along slowly - teams just play them early. I think his point is that we wasted games playing washed up Chris Brown when we could have played Foster. Foster was impressive during the preseason.

Goldensilence
12-09-2009, 05:21 PM
Why? Foster has had all season to prepare, watch, work with coaches, and learn. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if he and came out and performed well. In addition, if teams see him in there, they're not going to throw everything they've got at him like they would Slaton. Why do you think Brown and Moats get off like they do at times?

I'll be sick to my stomach because that means we could've had a compliment to Slaton that didn't include Chris "I can find ways to turn the ball over no matter what I am doing " Brown.

I'll be sick because that means Kubiak still is struggling identifying talent on his own roster.

Carr Bombed
12-09-2009, 05:29 PM
FML :gun:

Steve was just starting to come around too. What a horrible season for the guy........oh well, get well soon Slaton.

buddyboy
12-09-2009, 05:35 PM
Well, there's the answer to why Kubiak hasn't been playing Slaton.

mexican_texan
12-09-2009, 08:20 PM
Backs generally have "it" or they don't...that's why you don't see too many feature backs coming along slowly - teams just play them early. I think his point is that we wasted games playing washed up Chris Brown when we could have played Foster. Foster was impressive during the preseason.
In one sense, you're right, but we all know how Kubiak wants his backs to be able to pass block and catch. The whole running thing is overrated.

DerekLee1
12-09-2009, 08:45 PM
I'm sorry but this buggs me and please change it. His name is SLATON, not Slayton!

http://jcnot4me.com/images/pot_calls_kettle_black.bmp

bckey
12-09-2009, 08:49 PM
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn89/Delta105/Fatguybump.gif


Just wanted to use Mexican_Texan's bump because it is so hilarious.

Vinny
12-10-2009, 10:36 PM
In one sense, you're right, but we all know how Kubiak wants his backs to be able to pass block and catch. The whole running thing is overrated.

You mean Kubes would rather have Tim Wilson than Earl Campbell?

I saw this post over at the .com and his observation on Brown's big time pass blocking reputation made me pause as I thought about it in lieu of Kubiak justifying playing Brown so much.

alright...I actually signed up just because of this thread...normally I just peek into other teams fan forums to see player news and rumors so that I can see what can help my fantasy team but just allow me to shed some light into this "Chris Brown is a good pass blocker" thing that Kubiak says

if Chris Brown is such a great pass blocker, then why did Schaub get sacked twice against the worst team in the league in sacks this past week? the Jags are a team that barely averages a sack per game...THEY ARE DEAD LAST IN TOTAL SACKS ON THE SEASON WITH 12!! this also being combined with Schaub being tied for 9th for most sacked QB in the league and considering Slaton has been in and out almost all year with Brown & Moats to back him up, clearly Brown can't pass protect for crap

just to put that in perspective, the one game Moats started this year against Buffalo, which I'm sure you all remember fondly since it's the only game you guys had a 100 yard rusher, Schaub was sacked twice...but there's a difference in this comparison and the one in Jacksonville...Buffalo is tied in 11th as one of the best pass rushing teams in the league and average over 2 sacks per game...

in an ideal world, your QB shouldn't get sacked at all...but Moats allowing 2 sacks to Schaub in Buffalo deserves a freaking medal of honor compared to Brown allowing ANY sacks in Jacksonville, don't let it fool you, Brown is not a good pass blocker and what I find even more hilarious is that "Brown's great pass blocking" almost put Schaub out in the first play of the game

Brisco_County
12-11-2009, 06:26 AM
You mean Kubes would rather have Tim Wilson than Earl Campbell?

I saw this post over at the .com and his observation on Brown's big time pass blocking reputation made me pause as I thought about it in lieu of Kubiak justifying playing Brown so much.

I think it also had to do with Duane Brown having a tweaked knee and getting beat by the DE.

JB
12-11-2009, 08:54 AM
I think it also had to do with Duane Brown having a tweaked knee and getting beat by the DE.

And Winston totally missing his block on the other side

BigBull17
12-11-2009, 10:21 AM
The first play was weird anyway. A 5 step drop with your tackles cutting the ends is strange. Either Schaun or the tackles were wrong, or Dwayne's cut was SO bad, Schaub couldn't get rid of the ball. I hate olinemen cutting on pass plays. Too much can go wrong. That's where you get tipped balls and INT's.

Vinny
12-11-2009, 03:30 PM
The first play was weird anyway. A 5 step drop with your tackles cutting the ends is strange. Either Schaun or the tackles were wrong, or Dwayne's cut was SO bad, Schaub couldn't get rid of the ball. I hate olinemen cutting on pass plays. Too much can go wrong. That's where you get tipped balls and INT's.If both the tackles are cutting, the ball is supposed to get out asap. You don't ask your tackles to go to the ground on a five or seven step drop. Even in Jr high.

JB
12-11-2009, 03:52 PM
If both the tackles are cutting, the ball is supposed to get out asap. You don't ask your tackles to go to the ground on a five or seven step drop. Even in Jr high.

And I believe Winston even said it was a 3 step drop