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DexmanC
12-09-2009, 12:07 AM
Bob Mcnair does not want to fire Gary. Most of us here know that.
However, if his team wins two more games, they'll clinch Gary's job here.
The next four weeks will be quite interesting.

I strongly disagree with the opinon that a 7-9, 8-8 season should keep
Kubiak here, but we all know that it will. I can't wait to see what
Grandpa Bob decides.

treduke
12-09-2009, 12:30 AM
same story different season!
with pretty much zero chance of making the playoffs the keep kubes/fire kubes debate will keep me dialed in for this last month of the season
where do i stand on the topic?
check the avatar

mariowillshine15
12-09-2009, 12:41 AM
If Kubiak keeps playing Chris Brown any chance of him sticking around is gone.

barrett
12-09-2009, 09:55 AM
Keep Him.

DexmanC
12-09-2009, 10:01 AM
Keep Him.

Do you really think they're capable of getting enough talent to
bail him out of constantly dumb coaching decisions? Good coaching
is what gets you valuable depth, because EVERY team loses starters
throughout any given season.

Joe Texan
12-09-2009, 10:23 AM
You guys need to take the "Soap" and stuff it in that Pie Hole that keeps spewing Crap all over the board. Maybe it will clean it out.

IlliniJen
12-09-2009, 10:24 AM
If Gary's back next year, I will be saying "Who dat?!" a lot next season or maybe "Da Bearssss!"

Joe Texan
12-09-2009, 10:26 AM
If Gary's back next year, I will be saying "Who dat?!" a lot next season or maybe "Da Bearssss!"

See ya wouldn't want to be ya

DexmanC
12-09-2009, 10:29 AM
You guys need to take the "Soap" and stuff it in that Pie Hole that keeps spewing Crap all over the board. Maybe it will clean it out.

I only want the best for the Texans, Joe. Sadly, the only way to move
this franchise forward is to clean up the coaching.

Blake
12-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Lol @ playoff to save Gary's job.

I wish we were a big boy team talking about big boy accomplishments like making the real playoffs.

DexmanC
12-09-2009, 10:48 AM
Lol @ playoff to save Gary's job.

I wish we were a big boy team talking about big boy accomplishments like making the real playoffs.

Doesn't matter to Joe Texan. So long as they look good while they lose,
it's o.k.

Double Barrel
12-09-2009, 10:49 AM
I only want the best for the Texans, Joe. Sadly, the only way to move
this franchise forward is to clean up the coaching.

Don't let myopic perspectives frame who you are as a fan. You don't have to wear blinders or take Koolaide baths to be a fan of a team. Sticking with a team through good times and bad times does not mean that you have to be a braindead mouthpiece for the marketing department. Criticizing and wanting change are born from caring about the team.

At the end of the day, we ALL want the same thing. If anyone should choose to take offense with what I'm saying, then they should quit their vicarious existence and get a life. It's just a game to entertain us. Nothing more, nothing less.

"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music."
~ George Carlin

IlliniJen
12-09-2009, 10:53 AM
See ya wouldn't want to be ya

You seem to be content with failure and mediocrity, and Bob McNair counts on fans like you who will put money in his pocket regardless of the product on the field.

So good on ya. Keep throwing money down the pit.

I want the best for the Texans. I want them to WIN and to make the players like AJ feel like they were justified for sticking with this team. We have so many talented players who are being done a injustice by allowing Kubiak et al. to continue on this path. They deserve better. We deserve better. The owner doesn't seem to feel the same way. I care more about his team than he does. And the only way to not get suckered by bad owners is to say "no more."

So, while you just ride your emotions and bash people who are fed up with the coaching staff, the rest of us will use reason and logic to express our issues with the team.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 11:09 AM
Rumor has it, Mr McNair called a consultant and he recommended that he call a meeting with the marketing heads and brought in a tree stump and axe to inspire them. Keep choppin' wood! It's time to get to work.

Hervoyel
12-09-2009, 11:43 AM
I think what Gary needs to save his job is a bowl invitiation. If the Texans can win just one or two more games then maybe they can get an invite to the "Dunkin Donuts Chocolate Sprinkles Bowl" or the "Slap-Chop Freedom Fries Bowl" and a good solid win might rally the fanbase. Maybe Bob could pull some strings, call some friends.

Hell we'd probably get our asses beat by "Northwest Oklahoma Community College" or something. Gary would tell us he should have run more.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 11:47 AM
man, I'm all over the Slap-Chop Freedom Fries Bowl.

IlliniJen
12-09-2009, 11:56 AM
I think what Gary needs to save his job is a bowl invitiation. If the Texans can win just one or two more games then maybe they can get an invite to the "Dunkin Donuts Chocolate Sprinkles Bowl" or the "Slap-Chop Freedom Fries Bowl" and a good solid win might rally the fanbase. Maybe Bob could pull some strings, call some friends.

Hell we'd probably get our asses beat by "Northwest Oklahoma Community College" or something. Gary would tell us he should have run more.

I hear we're favored by 3 1/2 over St. Mary's School for the Blind.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
12-09-2009, 12:02 PM
One and done, please.

Malloy
12-09-2009, 12:04 PM
man, I'm all over the Slap-Chop Freedom Fries Bowl.

This? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWRyj5cHIQA)

Silver Oak
12-09-2009, 12:21 PM
Do you really think they're capable of getting enough talent to
bail him out of constantly dumb coaching decisions? Good coaching
is what gets you valuable depth, because EVERY team loses starters
throughout any given season.


Dexman...you seem to be in every thread reagrding firing Kubiak. Why so passionate about it? Take a break every once in a while ok?

Silver Oak
12-09-2009, 12:23 PM
the rest of us will use reason and logic to express our issues with the team.

ROFL at your last sentence!!! Reason and logic...that's a good one! :spin:

IlliniJen
12-09-2009, 12:26 PM
ROFL at your last sentence!!! Reason and logic...that's a good one! :spin:

Please scour my "fire Kubiak" posts and point out to me where I don't reasonably justify getting rid of him for the good of this franchise.

You seem to only want to fire personal attacks at the pink soapers. I have yet to understand what you're so butt-hurt about.

texansdrummer
12-09-2009, 01:28 PM
Our entire roster has been overhauled in four years. Would you rather have....or can you really imagine those guys from Kubiak's first year achieving, well...anything? Even 8-8? I certainly can't.

We've got a much improved roster, and it is built well for the future - especially since it is the youngest in the league. Along with having the youngest roster in the league comes some mistakes that more experienced players (usually.....ummmm, Chester - I hope you've been staying in touch with the snap counts during your time off) don't make.

Many great coaches had a less than enviable first four years and went on to great success (Ordinarily, I wouldn't consider posting something from RJ's column....but this is actually factual):

"Kubiak is 27-33 as head coach of the Texans. That happens to be the same record Jeff Fisher had after 60 games and is two games worse than Jimmy Johnson and Bill Belichick at the same point."

If Kubiak goes, the roster likely gets overhauled AGAIN (which will take several seasons) and we start all over. I'm not saying that GK is the next Jimmy Johnson, but if you could go back in time, you'd hear all of the same chatter that goes on here. Even Jerry Jones was smart enough to stick with his guy......

Vinny
12-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Our entire roster has been overhauled in four years. Would you rather have....or can you really imagine those guys from Kubiak's first year achieving, well...anything? Even 8-8? I certainly can't.



They went 7-9 for Capers

Second Honeymoon
12-09-2009, 01:58 PM
You guys need to take the "Soap" and stuff it in that Pie Hole that keeps spewing Crap all over the board. Maybe it will clean it out.

why don't you go homer somewhere else. your opinion is about as objective as a pile of dog excrement.

Marcus
12-09-2009, 02:00 PM
You seem to only want to fire personal attacks at the pink soapers.

Look at his sig. He happens to think it's immature, like I do.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 02:09 PM
Look at his sig. He happens to think it's immature, like I do. wanting a coaching change is immature? :gun: It may be a different POV but tell the kettle that the pot is a kissing cousin.

IlliniJen
12-09-2009, 02:37 PM
Look at his sig. He happens to think it's immature, like I do.

I don't understand what the problem is with the pink soap. It's stupid, like having a problem with Dark Side of the Moon as an avatar.

texansdrummer
12-09-2009, 02:42 PM
They went 7-9 for Capers

That's true.....and they went 2-14 for him the next season (and then most of those guys went 6-10 for Kubiak) I guess compared to 2-14, 7-9 looks pretty nice. Still, Kubiak's worst season (so far) would have been Caper's 2nd best.

In some ways, Kubiak actually has had more issues to deal with than Capers did. Capers didn't have to clean house to get "his guys" in. It takes some time.

Are you seriously desiring another 3-4 years of rebuilding and overhauling?

If this team wasn't close to being good, we wouldn't have had the chances to win nearly every game so far this season. He gets at least one more year. The coaches don't make plays. GK's had some bonehead calls, but every coach does (Go to the Pats board and I'll bet you can probably find a thread about one or two). These guys are young and won't make as many mistakes as they get more experience. Same with the coaches. Say what you will, this is the most talented team that we've had and unlike other seasons, we've been in every game.

Sorry, but given a play here and there, and many of you would have a completely different opinion.

If Kris makes a couple of field goals or we held on to the ball a little better, this team could EASILY be 8-4 or more. That difference right now has little to do with coaching. If a few individual players successfully execute some "routine" responsibilities and we were 8-4 or so, would you still be calling for GK's head?

JDizzle
12-09-2009, 02:47 PM
As if calling out pink soapers in your signature is somehow above being a pink soaper.

BigBull17
12-09-2009, 02:50 PM
wanting a coaching change is immature? :gun: It may be a different POV but tell the kettle that the pot is a kissing cousin.

It's so immature to not want a loser football team. Just go with the flow and be a laughing stock, right?

DexmanC
12-09-2009, 03:23 PM
I love posting on this board, because most people here use facts to
bolster their opinions. I attempt to read the main board, and the
homerism drowns out any rational posts. We all want what's best for
the Texans. However, some of us can't get past having a top 10 offense,
and a top 20 defense, but coming up short when it comes time to close
a game.

We don't have any closers in the backfield, and we've always had scrubs
playing runningback. MJD took 8 handoffs in a row, and got 3 first downs
to shut that game down. Did that do enough to open Kubiak's eyes to
the need to draft a damn good back in 2010?? I doubt it.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 03:37 PM
That's true.....and they went 2-14 for him the next season (and then most of those guys went 6-10 for Kubiak) I guess compared to 2-14, 7-9 looks pretty nice. Still, Kubiak's worst season (so far) would have been Caper's 2nd best.

In some ways, Kubiak actually has had more issues to deal with than Capers did. Capers didn't have to clean house to get "his guys" in. It takes some time.

Are you seriously desiring another 3-4 years of rebuilding and overhauling?

If this team wasn't close to being good, we wouldn't have had the chances to win nearly every game so far this season. He gets at least one more year. The coaches don't make plays. GK's had some bonehead calls, but every coach does (Go to the Pats board and I'll bet you can probably find a thread about one or two). These guys are young and won't make as many mistakes as they get more experience. Same with the coaches. Say what you will, this is the most talented team that we've had and unlike other seasons, we've been in every game.

Sorry, but given a play here and there, and many of you would have a completely different opinion.

If Kris makes a couple of field goals or we held on to the ball a little better, this team could EASILY be 8-4 or more. That difference right now has little to do with coaching. If a few individual players successfully execute some "routine" responsibilities and we were 8-4 or so, would you still be calling for GK's head?
why do you think it takes 3 years? I've laid down several examples like this one (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1320765&postcount=513). Or the Dungy - Gruden example....there are tons of examples of teams getting better instantly when a change is made. I think it's just myopic to assume that you throw out the baby with the bath water when you make a coaching change. You guys listen to John McClain way too much or something.

Every team in the league can say a play here or there and they have a better record. Most of the league is that close in talent.

Double Barrel
12-09-2009, 03:39 PM
Our entire roster has been overhauled in four years. Would you rather have....or can you really imagine those guys from Kubiak's first year achieving, well...anything? Even 8-8? I certainly can't.

We've got a much improved roster, and it is built well for the future - especially since it is the youngest in the league.

Stats are in the forum somewhere, but we do not have the youngest roster in the league. Youngest starting lineup, yes, but not the youngest overall roster.

I'd also like to ask if this is a much improved roster (which I agree with you, btw), why can't they win more than just one game than the 7-9 Capers team?

Perhaps this coaching staff is good at obtaining talent but poor at finding success on the field with that talent?

Sorry, but given a play here and there, and many of you would have a completely different opinion.

You could use this argument for almost every head coach that gets fired.

At the end of the day, we judge head coaches by ONE stat: scoreboard. Not how many top 10 offenses they got, or how many rushing yards their team obtained, or how many sacks the defense accumulated, but scoreboard.

And in that regard, Kubiak is no more successful in a winning season than the previous head coach, who started out with absolutely nothing, btw. Kubiak had a potential HoF in AJ from the beginning.

That being said, if we should get a new HC, he will be starting off with quite a few players that will not need to be replaced. And there is ample precedent of new HCs finding immediate success in today's NFL.

texansdrummer
12-09-2009, 04:05 PM
why do you think it takes 3 years? I've laid down several examples like this one (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1320765&postcount=513). Or the Dungy - Gruden example....there are tons of examples of teams getting better instantly when a change is made. I think it's just myopic to assume that you throw out the baby with the bath water when you make a coaching change. You guys listen to John McClain way too much or something.

Every team in the league can say a play here or there and they have a better record. Most of the league is that close in talent.

Yes...it's certainly possible, but not necessarily probable. If we could get Cowher, well....I'm not gonna lie, I'd take that in a heartbeat, but for reasons well-detailed in numerous places, that's extremely unlikely.

Agreed as well that it's not always the case that everything starts over....but again, it is possible or even likely. Depends who comes in. At this point, it doesn't appear as if many of the "ringers" would be likely to end up in Houston. Many coaches look attractive from the "outside", but if you're a fan of their team right now, there surely exist complaints about every one of them. There is no coach that every fan universally likes. Never has been, never will be. BTW, it's a little hard to pick up 610 in my car in LA.:shades:

The league is that close in talent.....realizing that, I don't think it's wise to upset the apple cart at this point in time, although I have no doubt if GK is back next season, there will be some concrete expectations. Otherwise, if we did get rid of GK, I'd want to be assured that it was indeed actually going to be a marked upgrade.

At least we're discussing football and not soap. I appreciate your post.:handshake:

Vinny
12-09-2009, 04:11 PM
Yes...it's certainly possible, but not necessarily probable. If we could get Cowher, well....I'm not gonna lie, I'd take that in a heartbeat, but for reasons well-detailed in numerous places, that's extremely unlikely.

Agreed as well that it's not always the case that everything starts over....but again, it is possible or even likely. Depends who comes in. At this point, it doesn't appear as if many of the "ringers" would be likely to end up in Houston. Many coaches look attractive from the "outside", but if you're a fan of their team right now, there surely exist complaints about every one of them. There is no coach that every fan universally likes. Never has been, never will be. BTW, it's a little hard to pick up 610 in my car in LA.:shades:

The league is that close in talent.....realizing that, I don't think it's wise to upset the apple cart at this point in time, although I have no doubt if GK is back next season, there will be some concrete expectations. Otherwise, if we did get rid of GK, I'd want to be assured that it was indeed actually going to be a marked upgrade.

At least we're discussing football and not soap. I appreciate your post.:handshake: Ok let's agree on one thing now. Most fan bases consider .500 a bad season when 12 out of 32 teams make the playoffs right?

After what looks like 3 consecutive .500 seasons, questionable game plans, poor coaching decisions, no red zone offense, poor clock management, weak halftime adjustments and a team unable to win a single important game in 3 years (that's 48 games)...what makes you think Kubiak is going to succeed?

MannyFresh
12-09-2009, 04:28 PM
wanting a coaching change is immature? :gun: It may be a different POV but tell the kettle that the pot is a kissing cousin.

Ouch...so owned...rep vinny if it'll let me...says i need to spread it around more...LOL

MannyFresh
12-09-2009, 04:34 PM
You guys need to take the "Soap" and stuff it in that Pie Hole that keeps spewing Crap all over the board. Maybe it will clean it out.

Let the people vent. Its hard to fathom the decisions this coach makes and continues as status quo. Your glasses are pretty rosey if you can't see what not only we, but the now the media and the players are seeing now. Its hard being laughed at for 4 weeks now.

texansdrummer
12-09-2009, 04:36 PM
Ok let's agree on one thing now. Most fan bases consider .500 a bad season when 12 out of 32 teams make the playoffs right?

After what looks like 3 consecutive .500 seasons, questionable game plans, poor coaching decisions, no red zone offense, poor clock management, weak halftime adjustments and a team unable to win a single important game in 3 years (that's 48 games)...what makes you think Kubiak is going to succeed?

I think that fan bases have differing ideas of what is "bad"...largely dependent on their recent history. Pretty sure the Browns would love to be at .500, and at the same time WP may run out of town if the Cowboys don't make it to the SB. Out of the 12 teams that make the playoffs, at least half will be completely disappointed with the result. A few years ago, many Pats felt like their season was a failure because they didn't win the SB.

For us, at this point, it is extremely frustrating to be at .500. I think every one of us agrees that should be better, including the players and coaches.

Despite not achieving the desired result in many instances, this is the first season in which our team doesn't quit or completely implode when they've been down in a game. They fight back. Nobody can say for sure if Kubiak is going to succeed. I think he gets one more year unless the players pack it in. It's a lot more difficult to get from 8-8 to 10-6/playoffs than it is from 2-14 to 8-8. Halftime adjustments are overrated...they don't have nearly as much time as people might think. More adjustments are made on the sideline as the aerial pics come in (If you've never seen them, they are quite amazing (when I played in the band, I'd sometimes get to check them out while I was on the field)). If the players quit on him, he's gone for sure. I think how the players continue to respond will tell us everything we need to know in regards to if he deserves another year.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 04:39 PM
Browns fans want playoffs....and if you think that they are good to go with .500 you are kidding yourself.

texansdrummer
12-09-2009, 04:53 PM
Browns fans want playoffs....and if you think that they are good to go with .500 you are kidding yourself.

No....I think you missed my point. Let me put it this way.....every fan wants their team to win the Superbowl.....(even the Lions), BUT.....at this point, given what they have been dealt with, I think it's fair to say that the Browns would look at .500 as pretty favorable to their current situation. They won 4 games last year and have a new coach. I'd respectfully suggest that it would not be reasonable for a Browns fan to have expected the playoffs this season.

Based upon recent history, fans should certainly be entitled to reasonable expectations for their team.

I think that its more than reasonable for us to expect our team to be in the race for the playoffs, as I'm sure most us do.

ATXtexanfan
12-09-2009, 05:06 PM
Does anyone think we beat the seahawks this weekend? Man we need a win to calm this place down.

Vinny
12-09-2009, 05:22 PM
Does anyone think we beat the seahawks this weekend? Man we need a win to calm this place down.

sure, there is nothing on the line and the Seahawks blow. This is when Kubes works his magic.

mussop
12-09-2009, 05:31 PM
Dexman...you seem to be in every thread reagrding firing Kubiak. Why so passionate about it? Take a break every once in a while ok?

Because like me he loves this team and beleives we have an average HC that is holding us back. I notice you are in all the the threads regarding Kubiak also. Why so passionate about it? Take a break every once in a while ok?

:P

IlliniJen
12-09-2009, 05:42 PM
Dexman...you seem to be in every thread reagrding firing Kubiak. Why so passionate about it? Take a break every once in a while ok?

Et tu, Silver Oak?

treduke
12-09-2009, 06:01 PM
sure, there is nothing on the line and the Seahawks blow. This is when Kubes works his magic.

:goodpost:

Thorn
12-09-2009, 06:50 PM
sure, there is nothing on the line and the Seahawks blow. This is when Kubes works his magic.

Not that I disagree, but it'll sure be nice to see them win for a change.

DexmanC
12-09-2009, 07:23 PM
I look at the Buffalo Bills messageboard, and I have nothing but
respect for those fans. Their posts routinely fill 10 to 15 new pages
a DAY!! They banged and banged and banged for THEIR average coach,
Dick Jauron, to get let go.

The youngster that took his place knew that he needed to find away
to get the ball to their biggest weapon, T.O. What happened?? They
INSTANTLY became a competitive football team.

Mediocrity is not something you SETTLE for. Wherever you set the bar,
you will ALWAYS remain a notch below.

Remember dat!

Hervoyel
12-09-2009, 11:21 PM
I think the Seahawks (who indeed do blow) are going to come into Reliant and beat us like a drum.

Lucky
12-10-2009, 01:08 AM
Not that I disagree, but it'll sure be nice to see them win for a change.
And with a win comes another episode of "As the Corner Turns".



Mediocrity is not something you SETTLE for. Wherever you set the bar,
you will ALWAYS remain a notch below.

Who stole Dexman's account???

Texecutioner
12-10-2009, 01:24 AM
Who stole Dexman's account???

I've been wondering that for days now. :user:


I love this new version of DexmanC.

Runner
12-10-2009, 06:34 AM
Who stole Dexman's account???

You know recent converts, those that have quit smoking, those that have increased their fitness, etc. are the ones who are the most strident in their particular area of change. I think they are just making up for wasted time.

MannyFresh
12-10-2009, 06:43 AM
I look at the Buffalo Bills messageboard, and I have nothing but
respect for those fans. Their posts routinely fill 10 to 15 new pages
a DAY!! They banged and banged and banged for THEIR average coach,
Dick Jauron, to get let go.

The youngster that took his place knew that he needed to find away
to get the ball to their biggest weapon, T.O. What happened?? They
INSTANTLY became a competitive football team.

Mediocrity is not something you SETTLE for. Wherever you set the bar,
you will ALWAYS remain a notch below.

Remember dat!

Try telling that to some self-proclaimed Texan's fan "brass" that think since they've had season tix and Platinum parking since the "beginning" that everything is ok and that we are such awful bad fans for wanting to become competitive.

hobie
12-10-2009, 07:43 AM
sure, there is nothing on the line and the Seahawks blow. This is when Kubes works his magic.

Well I hope so... but Seattle has the same record as Houston, so I guess the Texans blow too....???

Runner
12-10-2009, 08:01 AM
I think the Seahawks (who indeed do blow) are going to come into Reliant and beat us like a drum.

Most of the Seahawks woes this season trace back to their patchwork offensive line, if I'm not mistaken. Hasselbeck has been ineffective because of it, even though he has some decent targets to throw to.

If any "good sign" is to come from this game; I think the defensive front four must show some pride and prove something. They won't get many better opportunities.

DexmanC
12-10-2009, 08:43 AM
The players "wubs" Kubes so much, and they know he'll get fired if
they don't win, yet they continue to play like garbage. It's starting
not to matter how much talent this team has.

If this team improves on the road, which they have this season, then
they suck at home.

If they improve defensively, which they have, then the offense can't
find its way for about 5 series every damn game.

If they improve against the rest of the NFL, which they have so far by
standing at 4-2, then they get trounced in their division by winning a
nailbiter and losing FIVE IN A ROW to land at 1-5.

They just FIND ways to land at or near 8-8. They are a better road team,
and a horrible home team. They have a better defense, and an offense
that needs a full half before they can move the ball. They've improved
play against the NFL, yet continue to get OWNED by the AFC South. The
Emperor has no clothes, folks. When they play like **** on Sunday, I don't
give a damn how "fun" practice was for the week. They just don't have
a "win-at-all-cost" mentality.

When I saw the Colts and Jags sweep us, along with the Titans beating us
on Monday Night, I saw the Texans had enough talent to dominate all those
games. What I DIDN'T see from the Texans, which came in bunches from
the opposing sideline, was a sense of URGENCY! The ONLY time this team
plays with an edge, is when the other team gets UP by three scores! This
is unacceptable, but it is a consistent trend.

When they get down 17-0, or 21-0, this team moves the ball better than
ANY team in the NFL, and their defense becomes LOCKDOWN. They have
YET to start a game with this. It's almost like they've CRAMMED for the
finals, rather than use their talent to get the test over with early.

"We'll look at the tape, correct our mistakes, and get ready for next week."

THAT has been the mantra for this team, and it's a huge look into why this
team plays with no edge at all....

.....until they get down three scores.

jshabang
12-10-2009, 02:23 PM
Ok let's agree on one thing now. Most fan bases consider .500 a bad season when 12 out of 32 teams make the playoffs right?

After what looks like 3 consecutive .500 seasons, questionable game plans, poor coaching decisions, no red zone offense, poor clock management, weak halftime adjustments and a team unable to win a single important game in 3 years (that's 48 games)...what makes you think Kubiak is going to succeed?

screw that...how about a coach who in the last 2 years cant seem to get this team prepared to play 60 mins of football.....if he could somehow had done that who knows where our record would be now...

this 30 min stuff just wont work period

Maddict5
12-11-2009, 04:15 PM
If Gary's back next year, I will be saying "Who dat?!" a lot next season or maybe "Da Bearssss!"

oh noes please dont go :rolleyes:

you dont even know which team you want to bandwagon on :bravo:

DexmanC
12-13-2009, 04:46 PM
The Texans win game one against the Hawks.
Do they have enough to win the "SuperBowl To Save Gary"
against New England?