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nut
12-06-2009, 06:54 PM
We have been known to go on a run under Kubiak when the pressure gets turned off and the games don't matter anymore. The Kool-Aid drinkers always talk about how we are improving after these meaningless runs. This feels like the movie Groundhog Day where the same things happen every day every year. I feel pretty apathetic about what we do from hereon out. At our 17-0 loss of a lead at Reliant last Sunday against Indy, the air seemed to go out of the fan base.

stingray
12-06-2009, 06:57 PM
7-9, 8-8.. It's all the same. 8-8 used to mean something as bad as this team was four years ago. But not anymore.

hookinreds
12-06-2009, 06:58 PM
With the remaining schedule...I'd be suprised if we win 2 more.

Jackie Chiles
12-06-2009, 06:58 PM
Getting to 7-9 from this point isn't a run. Getting to 9-7 or even 8-8 MIGHT be considered a run and even then, too little too late. Who gives a crap if we beat Seattle and or St. Louis in the next two weeks anyway?

hradhak
12-06-2009, 06:59 PM
I say we finish the year at 5-11. At least we get ourselves a better draft pick for next year.

redwhiteANDblue
12-06-2009, 07:00 PM
Actually I do care because I am a true fan. I would never want the texans to lose. Yeah the seasons already over for us but we got 4 games left. Let's make the best of it.

Carr Bombed
12-06-2009, 07:00 PM
We're not going to get to 8-8. I said it a couple of weeks ago.......this is the year where the players don't play the season out for Kubiak.

This is the year where we'll limp into the offseason and Kubiak needs to go.....you can only lose so many games before the players themselves stop believing in their head coach.

Buffi2
12-06-2009, 07:08 PM
I pretty much lost hope after MNF. At this point, it doesn't matter to me if we go 7-9 or 5-11. A few meaningless wins at the end of the season aren't going to do it for me anymore.

We either get to the playoffs or I'm an unhappy fan. Winning games when it no longer matters doesn't show me that we will start the season as SB contenders anymore. They fooled me twice - it won't happen again.

Wolf
12-06-2009, 07:20 PM
The Monday night game was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak for me.. I was pretty hyped for that game and well things didn't turn out like I hoped.

Watching the game today, I felt that I was just there, not too much emotion watching it.. sure I said a few "Are you ****ing kidding me?" but overall, I guess I am drained right now.. just watching to go through the motions. I am wanting a win but basically if it is there, it is there.

Thorn
12-06-2009, 07:22 PM
At this point I don't care anymore. The season is shot to hell. I'll keep watching anyway, just like I always do. I'd like to see them win some more games though.

Man, it sure does suck to be a football fan in Houston.

Mr. White
12-06-2009, 07:34 PM
I quit caring after the MNF game. I cared even less after the 2nd Colts loss.

I never root for the Texans to lose, but I'm always waiting for the other shoe to drop while I'm watching them.

And it always drops.

TheRealJoker
12-06-2009, 07:38 PM
This team doesn't know how to win when it matters. 6 of our 7 losses that we choked away is more than enough proof. Even if we run the table and get to 9-7 we will not be in the playoffs. Just chalk the late-season run, if it happens, up to typical Texans getting hot when the pressure is off.

I just hope that the team doesn't completely tank. We need to change the culture of losing, that process will take even longer if the team tanks the season. I want our playmakers to keep making plays and let whoever takes over for Kubiak know that he's got some talent to work with...

Showtime100
12-06-2009, 07:40 PM
At this point I don't care anymore. The season is shot to hell. I'll keep watching anyway, just like I always do. I'd like to see them win some more games though.

Man, it sure does suck to be a football fan in Houston.

Austin too. :D

valleytexfan
12-06-2009, 07:40 PM
At this point I don't care anymore. The season is shot to hell. I'll keep watching anyway, just like I always do. I'd like to see them win some more games though.

Man, it sure does suck to be a football fan in Houston.

This.

Runner
12-06-2009, 07:40 PM
7-9 would be great! Who wouldn't want to match the best record of the David Carr Texans?

That may be hard to do this year though, even with all the stockpiled talent and great coaching the Texans have now. Sure they've been one game over 7-9 for a couple of years, but it's hard to maintain that level of play - other teams keep getting better.

blitz90
12-06-2009, 07:40 PM
We have 1 more win than the Raiders right now. THE FU*#IN RAIDERS!

RTP2110
12-06-2009, 07:42 PM
We're following the Denver blueprint remember? So Kubiak has to go 8-8 three years in a row and get fired, just like Shannahan.

We'll finish 8-8, it's destiny.

TheCD
12-06-2009, 07:44 PM
Who gives a crap if we beat Seattle and or St. Louis in the next two weeks anyway?

I do...it will be my first Texans game in person! :gun:

treduke
12-06-2009, 07:51 PM
Austin too. :D

i second that this place is like dallas south or nashville west depending on who you talk too:jail:

Jackie Chiles
12-06-2009, 07:52 PM
I do...it will be my first Texans game in person! :gun:

If we win we might have to pool some cash and get you season tickets.

Showtime100
12-06-2009, 07:57 PM
i second that this place is like dallas south or nashville west depending on who you talk too:jail:

Yeah, when the Texans lose I wear my Texans stuff proudly (if clean, you know, to get the Kubiak-induced barf off) and I get it from all sides. I think I'm getting near punching somebody in the mouth over it....lol.

treduke
12-06-2009, 08:42 PM
Yeah, when the Texans lose I wear my Texans stuff proudly (if clean, you know, to get the Kubiak-induced barf off) and I get it from all sides. I think I'm getting near punching somebody in the mouth over it....lol.

yeah thats why i usually stay home and watch the games last time i went to a sports bar to watch the texans i almost got killed by a angry mob of titans fans
sometimes i feel like i'm the only one here

HJam72
12-06-2009, 08:59 PM
I don't want to watch them anymore this year, but I know I will. I'll change my mind, but right now I hope they lose out just so Kubiak's demise will be completely inevitable.

phantom17
12-06-2009, 09:13 PM
At this point I don't care anymore. The season is shot to hell. I'll keep watching anyway, just like I always do. I'd like to see them win some more games though.

Man, it sure does suck to be a football fan in Houston.

Amen Thorn! I know the feeling all too well!

scourge
12-06-2009, 10:28 PM
At this point I don't care anymore. The season is shot to hell. I'll keep watching anyway, just like I always do. I'd like to see them win some more games though.

Man, it sure does suck to be a football fan in Houston.

Exactly how I feel.

Second Honeymoon
12-06-2009, 10:30 PM
i don't care about 7-9 but I am more worried about 6-10 or if we lose to the Rams 5-11. The Seahawks are playing better than us as are just about everyone left on our schedule.

I would actually like 6-10 the most so we don't have the embarassment of losing to the Rams. 5-11 may help our draft but losing to the Rams is the lowest of the low aside from losing to the Browns.

potisyourfriend
12-06-2009, 10:31 PM
Nope not one bit. The record is irrelevant now. It's another year of no playoffs and a low pick in the upcoming draft. Here's to 9 months of waiting for the season to start.

2slik4u
12-06-2009, 10:31 PM
i almost want to go 7-9 just because im getting tired of staring at the numbers 8-8. i mean cmon, what are the odds one single team can go 8-8 three years in a row. Thats gotta be the first time thats happened in NFL history.

RTP2110
12-06-2009, 10:34 PM
i almost want to go 7-9 just because im getting tired of staring at the numbers 8-8. i mean cmon, what are the odds one single team can go 8-8 three years in a row. Thats gotta be the first time thats happened in NFL history.

Titans in the late 90's off the top.

Buffalo has been 7-9 each of the last 3 years

imatexan
12-06-2009, 10:37 PM
I care to see my Texans win.

I don't want to go to Reliant the next two Sundays to watch them lose and have that empty feeling.

I always want the Texans to win, I care if they go 9-7 compared to 5-11.

TEXANRED
12-06-2009, 10:41 PM
The Monday night game was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak for me.. I was pretty hyped for that game and well things didn't turn out like I hoped.

Watching the game today, I felt that I was just there, not too much emotion watching it.. sure I said a few "Are you ****ing kidding me?" but overall, I guess I am drained right now.. just watching to go through the motions. I am wanting a win but basically if it is there, it is there.

This is exactly where I am at.

Bring on the draft.

DexmanC
12-06-2009, 10:48 PM
The problem is, this season, the players ALSO drank the Cool-Aid.
Once the playoffs were taken off the table, I really hate to say it,
they may go into "preservation" mode and play to stay healthy for
OTA's. If I were Kubiak, I'd play all the "young kids" on my roster.
Dan Orlovsky would start at quarterback, and Arian Foster, Jacoby Jones,
and Glenn Martinez would also be starters.

The players won't admit it, but if you listen to the postgame comments,
Kubiak really pissed them off with that silly 1st and Goal playcall, and he's
got some making up to do. Either way, I expect Bob to make the right
call come the offseason. This team has to beat the Seahawks, Rams,
Dolphins, AND Patriots to finish 9-7. Miami is still in the playoff hunt, and
the Patriots are also struggling (they lost to Miami today.) 2-2 to end the
year has us finishing at 7-9, with only ONE win against a playoff team.

Going 1-5 in our division, after 3 consecutive years of 2-4 in the division
is inexcusable, and will also weigh on Grandpa Bob's decision. 7-17, under
this regime in the division, is also difficult to stomach. Even the Chiefs
and Raiders can beat the Steelers, yet we allow Mark Sanchez to look like
Joe Willie himself against us.

I was wrong. I admit it. My bad. The evidence is just overwhelming now,
and Kubiak has removed all hope of reasonable doubt. I really wanted
Kubes to succeed here, and I believe he just lost the locker room today.

HTown2ATX
12-06-2009, 10:49 PM
yeah thats why i usually stay home and watch the games last time i went to a sports bar to watch the texans i almost got killed by a angry mob of titans fans
sometimes i feel like i'm the only one here

LOL.....know how you feel.....you aint alone here in Austin.

The VY n*t guzzling and KEYE CBS Austin showing Titans games has spoiled Austin for me.

I almost got in some shit with some Titans fans a couple years ago at 3rd base.

The Texans lost that day. But so did the Titans to the Bucs. I was saying stuff like "Hey, I didn't know Tennessee was in Texas" and stuff like that. The toothless wonder Titan fans did not appreciate my harmless drunken smack talk. LOL

BUt you know what......F THEM!!!!

:bender::kitten:

Norg
12-07-2009, 01:24 AM
i think we handle

Hawks
ST louis

and knock Miami out of there Post season dreams


has far has the NE game who knows it up in the air on that one

CDNTexansFan
12-07-2009, 02:10 AM
Actually I do care because I am a true fan. I would never want the texans to lose. Yeah the seasons already over for us but we got 4 games left. Let's make the best of it.

Whether anyone here is hoping they lose out or hoping they win out, it doesn't make them any less of a fan so ease your self praise about being "a real fan."

Winning 1 or 4 of the remaining games makes extremely little difference overall come end of the season. If you are one of those fans who holds out hope in the 1% chance the team currently has at playoffs then by all means, but I think most people would prefer having a wider range of talent available to us over the course of seven rounds.

Thorn
12-07-2009, 08:20 AM
i think we handle

Hawks
ST louis

and knock Miami out of there Post season dreams


has far has the NE game who knows it up in the air on that one

I agree, I'm thinking we win the next three and drop the NE game. The wildcare here is Schaub and how bad his shoulder is. If he doesn't play all bets are off and Grossman has the team for a bit. Personally, I think Grossman makes a fine backup QB, but not so sure about a starting QB.

The chron is reporting Schaub has a dislocated sholder. Because it's not his throwing arm, he may play. Or not. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Imatexanfan
12-07-2009, 10:51 AM
I say we finish the year at 5-11. At least we get ourselves a better draft pick for next year.

BAM!! There you go that's what I've been saying since the 2nd Indy game, especially after the Titans game, shit I ain't saying give up but play like you know Rex, and put people that really haven't played. You know kinda like training camp when you're gonna see which players you gonna keep and ones you are not, etc...I'm serious, I'm all for pride but it's time to see who we can actually KEEP for next year, plus getta good spot in the draft.:tiphat:

HOU-TEX
12-07-2009, 10:59 AM
I agree, I'm thinking we win the next three and drop the NE game. The wildcare here is Schaub and how bad his shoulder is. If he doesn't play all bets are off and Grossman has the team for a bit. Personally, I think Grossman makes a fine backup QB, but not so sure about a starting QB.

The chron is reporting Schaub has a dislocated sholder. Because it's not his throwing arm, he may play. Or not. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I've seen this team find some really screwed up ways to lose games the past few weeks. I'm not very confident about any of our remaining games. But, given our history, we'll win a few meaningless games.

Second Honeymoon
12-07-2009, 11:04 AM
I only want to beat the Rams. if we lose to the Rams we may be back in 2-14 mode and will have a hard time enticing some of the better coaches to come to our team.

Probably the best thing would be to beat the Rams and lose the rest just to insure that Kubiak was indeed fired. I think 8-8 keeps his job.

KUBIAK MUST BE FIRED!!!!

False Start
12-07-2009, 11:13 AM
I will watch every remaining game there is. I haven't missed a Texans game in their miserable existence, and I wont start now. Sure, I would love for them to win. I'll be happy, but not "HELL YEAH THE TEXANS WON!" happy. Meh.......

Watching Texans games for the rest of this season will go from me being glued to my TV hanging on every second, to watching while I get other things done around the house.

7-9, or 5-11 it really doesn't matter to me right now. :yawn:

Honoring Earl 34
12-07-2009, 11:51 AM
A little rally at the end of the year is like throwing a deckchair off the Titanic . It may make you feel better but it's still going to sink . :pirate:

If I was Bob , I would be sending feelers now . I'm not sure if that's in bad taste if the coaches I'm looking at aren't coaching . Bob has got to make a splash with the hire we make get blacked out .

BigBull17
12-07-2009, 11:53 AM
The worst thing that could happen is a god like run. I would hate to see us reel off 4 in a row and dismantle the pats cause then they would say " We fin ished strong, lets ride it into next year." Then its back to the same ol shit.

Mr. White
12-07-2009, 11:57 AM
If I was Bob , I would be sending feelers now . I'm not sure if that's in bad taste if the coaches I'm looking at aren't coaching . Bob has got to make a splash with the hire we make get blacked out .

I don't think he cares if he go 7-9 either. :brickwall:

Buffi2
12-07-2009, 12:02 PM
I don't think he cares if he go 7-9 either. :brickwall:

How could he? If we fans feel the way we do, can you imagine how an owner feels? For sure he is more financially invested,(although relatively speaking, maybe not) but I bet he is even more emotionally involved if that is possible. I would imagine he feels like throwing a remote through a TV about now. If I were he, I'm not sure I could even be civil to Kubiak. I'd like to throw a remote at Kubiak myself, come to think about it.

Mr. White
12-07-2009, 12:20 PM
How could he? If we fans feel the way we do, can you imagine how an owner feels? For sure he is more financially invested,(although relatively speaking, maybe not) but I bet he is even more emotionally involved if that is possible. I would imagine he feels like throwing a remote through a TV about now. If I were he, I'm not sure I could even be civil to Kubiak. I'd like to throw a remote at Kubiak myself, come to think about it.

This (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1318505&postcount=33) post is consistent with the McNair we've come to know and love and his attitude toward a common sense change.

Vinny
12-07-2009, 01:26 PM
What's the difference between 6-10 and 8-8?

Nothing.

JB
12-07-2009, 01:29 PM
What's the difference between 6-10 and 8-8?

Nothing.

2-4 spots in the draft order

hookinreds
12-07-2009, 01:35 PM
What's the difference between 6-10 and 8-8?

Nothing.

Maybe picking 8th-9th instead of 11th-12th :sarcasm:

Honoring Earl 34
12-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Maybe picking 8th-9th instead of 11th-12th :sarcasm:

That could come in handy you know .

To me the season ended when they lost three money games to the Colts and Titans . From then on they either back into the playoffs or miss them again . As far as the winning season ... so what . That and a nickle will get you a piece of gum .

Vinny
12-07-2009, 01:40 PM
What's the difference between 6-10 and 8-8?

Nothing.

2-4 spots in the draft order

Maybe picking 8th-9th instead of 11th-12th :sarcasm:
Sure, then we draft another project DT like TJ or 0k0ye instead of guys like D Revis.

Honoring Earl 34
12-07-2009, 01:42 PM
Sure, then we draft another project DT like TJ or 0k0ye instead of guys like D Revis.

In all fairness we got Pbuch yahoo ( I think ) when we drafted TJ . To me ... off the top of my head ... if you draft a DT high ... he better be pushing 330 . Ngata , Haynesworth , Henderson , Raji , and some others .

beerlover
12-07-2009, 01:44 PM
I'm sure the fans do that buy the tickets, it just remains to be seen how many will show-up vs. the Seahawks not excatly a great draw in the first place :kitten:

hookinreds
12-07-2009, 01:46 PM
Sure, then we draft another project DT like TJ or 0k0ye instead of guys like D Revis.

You wouldn't want to be shocked on draft day would you Vinny?

TimeKiller
12-07-2009, 03:11 PM
Nope. I sincerely hope they tank the games and get a better draft slot.

mattieuk
12-07-2009, 03:13 PM
I want to win out. Firstly, because thats the only way to play football. Secondly, with all the financial stuff going on at present, I want to be picking toward the middle of the first round, rather than paying expensive top 10 money.

Vinny
12-07-2009, 03:14 PM
You wouldn't want to be shocked on draft day would you Vinny?I think I'd rather get in line for a good ol' fashioned tasering this draft

eriadoc
12-07-2009, 03:30 PM
9-7 isn't making the playoffs. So at this point, I'd rather the team lose out. First, it would definitively end the Kubiak regime, and second, we'd end up with a higher draft pick.

Big Lou
12-07-2009, 03:37 PM
It's time to start the 2nd and 3rd stringers to evaluate talent. I'm not saying don't go for the win, but let's look to the future.

nut
12-07-2009, 07:59 PM
If we go 8-8, will Kubiak keep his job?

HJam72
12-08-2009, 08:41 AM
I absolutely would not want to lose for draft position; but, like I said earlier, I wouldn't mind losing to really ensure a change in HC. 1-5 in our division has sealed it for me.

The thing about the draft is that you get more for your money-under-the-cap or with some teams money-available-to-spend-before-there-was-a-cap with later picks in the early rounds. This could even be the reason some teams never seem to climb out of their problems. There really ought to be a maximum pay for rookies, no matter how much a team wants to pay them.

HJam72
12-08-2009, 08:50 AM
If we go 8-8, will Kubiak keep his job?

After what I've seen and our divisional record, God I hope not. That's why I wouldn't mind losing quite a bit more. He has a penchant for winning meaningless games, no matter what makes them meaningless. I know there are excuses for that, but then there are those stupid decisions on game day that keep popping up.