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TEXANRED
12-02-2009, 09:25 PM
I think this is a fair question. Do these Texans deserve our support?

I am as big of a fan as anyone. I buy the multiple Jerseys for each of our themed games. I got the license plate, I buy the tickets for the games, I post and talk and live and eat and breath Texan football. I get to the stadium hours early and am usually one of the first through the gates just to watch the team warm up. I go to the stadium and purchase the $10 potato along with the $8 beer and wait 15 minutes in the bathrooms so I can have someone behind me watch me pee. I have my office decorated with Texans stuff and talk smack to that dumbass down the hall who is a crygirl fan. I do the same thing that thousands of Texan fans do everyday.

But does this team deserve such loyalty?

What have they done for me lately? Break my heart? Fall below expectations? Prove the naysayers correct? Make me look foolish?

Sure, I have read the "True fan" posts and listened to the "True fan" callers on the radio. I have to admit I chuckle a bit. First I would like to point out that no I do not leave early. I paid for 60 minutes of football and dammit I am gonna get 60 minutes of football. I might not get 60 minutes from this team but I am gonna at least stare at the field and think how awful the turf looks.

I loosely compare the fans relationship with this team as an abusive one. Sure they punch us in the gut every Sunday but its there way of saying they love us.

Especially with some of the players coming out now and starting to question our loyalty to the team. Like its somehow our fault they are losing. Sure they just hit me in the face with a chair and broke my nose but if I had done the dishes he wouldn't of been so upset. So yeah, I guess it is my fault. At least Farrah Fawcett had enough balls to set the bed on fire.

Maybe on one hand I am not a "True Fan". I am only a fan of this team b/c I am from here. Born and raised here. If I wasn't from here there would be no way in Hell I would root for this team. 4-12, 5-11, 7-9, 2-14, 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, and now 5-6. Why would I be? But I am a Houstonian. That is my shield and they fly my banner for better or worse. Each and every week we Houstonians send our guys off to compete with other cities around the nation. They are our representatives. They speak for us. They show the rest of the nation what Houston is about. And for 8 years they have told the nation we are a bunch of dorks. We are the Steve Urckle of the league. When we do win a game we snort and ask "Did I do that?":kitten:

On the other hand maybe I am a "True Fan". I am ready to scold and punish this team for bad behavior. I do b/c I care, b/c I love this team. If my daughter does something wrong I put her in time out or take away certain privileges. Does that mean I don't love or care about her? No, it doesn't. It means that I am disappointed in her actions and I expect more from her. Like I expect more from the Texans.

I, like 10's of thousands of you invest way to much of our hard earned money and expend our limited amount of time that we have throughout the day on a team that just doesn't seem to care about its fan base.

These players don't care about us, or there coach's. They are starting to turn the fan base away and are about to get there coach's fired.

Well like the players say, its a business. And like any other business there needs to be a product that people want. If you don't have that product that people want then you go out of business.

Just my two cents on the entire season and last 8 years. The last time Houston was in a playoff Joe Montana led the Chiefs past an Oiler team that had home field advantage throughout.

TexansBlood
12-02-2009, 09:38 PM
:goodpost:

TexCanada
12-02-2009, 09:41 PM
I can't personally say that I have invested money in to this team like many of you guys have, because I live far away and don't have the ability to attend games. But I invest my time and my emotions into this team and I think that they are very much worth it.

Here is why:

Players like Cushing, Pollard, 'Meco, 'Dre, Mario and so on, show up to play every weekend, and are here for the football and not the money. Not everybody on our team can say that, but these players can and they make it worth it.

Wolf
12-02-2009, 09:42 PM
as I said back on September 8, 2002

"I, Wolf
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team
To watch and to listen,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sobriety and in drunkenness,
To love and to cherish,
through the cursing and the praising
'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as you don't move out of Houston.")

............................

little did I know what I was getting into .. guess I have the 7 year itch now :turtle:

on seriousness.. for me it is probably more like having a kid.. you are going to love them no matter what, and they will do some stupid ****, but you are going to be there no matter what.. even on some days you want to disown them LOL

barrett
12-02-2009, 09:48 PM
I didn't read your post TexanRed.

I'm a genius though, so hear me out.

Yes.

Go Texans.

Wolf
12-02-2009, 09:51 PM
I think some are jumping the gun about players not carrying about fans. Things get heated on game day for fans and players alike.

Texans do a lot for the community



AJ,Demeco, and yes even D-rob helped kids earlier this year (http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/sports/090401_texans_players_help_kids)


http://www.houstontexans.com/gallery.asp?section_id=736

Cushing speaks at Army All-American Bowl dinner (http://www.houstontexans.com/community/Story.asp?story_id=5876)

There is frustration for the fans and players alike that want to go to the playoffs and possibly the superbowl

Norg
12-02-2009, 10:27 PM
yeah

"I, Norg
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team
To watch and to listen,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sobriety and in drunkenness,
To love and to cherish,
through the cursing and the praising
'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as you don't move out of Houston.")

El Tejano
12-02-2009, 10:51 PM
I say that these Texans do deserve your loyalty. For being how this season started out, being 5-6 is a blessing. This team showed us they didn't have any quit in them over the last two years and somehow getting to 8-8 both of those years. In 07 Andre goes down and the other WRs stepped up and got us to 8-8, then in 08 they start out 0-4 then go on to win 8 out of 12 to go 8-8. For some that sounds like mediocre football but when you consider the other seasons as you mentioned before that, there are many that would like to be at 8-8 (Detroit, Cleveland). I'm not saying that is going to cut it but 8-8 is light years better than 2-14.

The season isn't over for this season. Let me ask you if you thought we would be at 5-6 after week 3 when we were giving up all those TDs. They could go 10-6 or even 9-7. This would be our first winning season and only the loyal fans will get to say they've been there every step of the way. No more loser Texans, no more jokes about being the only team to never have a winning season. It just may mean that playoffs have to wait for another year. 11-5 meant teams had to stay home last year, that didn't mean they weren't a good team, it meant how good the division was.

9-7 or above and no playoffs means the Texans have turned the corner and are ready to take on the next challenge of being a contender. I know I don't want to go to the playoffs until I know we can win a few playoff games and possibly go to the Super Bowl.

Stay the course man, we are almost there.

Txn_in_Oki
12-02-2009, 10:57 PM
At least you're in Houston. I haven't set foot in the town in over 5 years and yet persist in following this team. Do you have any idea that I've met 2, yes, TWO total Texan fans in person since the inception of this franchise? While I may not buy tickets, I've bought jerseys and funy little stickers and license plate thingies for my truck. I've spent years and years and years in enemy territory dealing with Cowboy fans, and Colt fans and Titan fans, and of all things Jags fans. I actually think I have met more Jag fans than actually show up in their stadium on Sundays. I swear, if I hear one more person say "Texans?!?! You're a Texans fan!?!?!? WHY?!?!?" I'm going to go on a freaking rampage.

That being said...

"I, Txn_in_NC
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team
To watch and to listen,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sobriety and in drunkenness,
To love and to cherish,
through the cursing and the praising
'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as you don't move out of Houston.")

Now would someone come over here and kick me in the balls and just get it over with?

texanfan2002114
12-02-2009, 10:59 PM
yes

Mr. White
12-02-2009, 11:21 PM
To me, the question is why do these Texans deserve our support?

texanhead08
12-02-2009, 11:25 PM
Because they are our texans. It doesn't matter if they don't play like they want or what the media says about them. They are still our team through the good and the bad. Its these times that make when we do break through that much sweeter.

thunderkyss
12-02-2009, 11:34 PM
I'm supporting these Texans, because I like having a Professional football team in Houston.

I liked the Denver offense.

I like What Kubiak has been doing with player selection, & I like the progress we've seen.

I continue to support this team, because even though we've experienced some heart breaking losses, Each of those games have been among the best games of the weekend.

We just came out on the wrong end of them.

thunderkyss
12-02-2009, 11:34 PM
Nothing would make the Colts & the Titans happier than for us to stop doing what we've been doing, & go in a different direction.

TEXANRED
12-02-2009, 11:41 PM
Keep in mind that the question is not do the Texans deserve our support, but do these Texans deserve our support? This squad.

imatexan
12-02-2009, 11:47 PM
Yes.

I can't imagine myself without Texans football.

I hate to see them let me down but at least I have my hometown team that I can support, opposed to no team.

A Houston pro football team has not gone to the playoffs since I can remember.

I was alive when thee Oilers went to the playoffs but I was too young to remember(I do remember going to an Oilers game against the steelers in 96)

I will support this team as long as it says "Houston" in front of it.

Brando
12-02-2009, 11:49 PM
I didn't read your post TexanRed.

I'm a genius though, so hear me out.

Yes.

Go Texans.



^This.

:fans:

MannyFresh
12-03-2009, 01:06 AM
Ok, now that the Beatles song 'all we need is love' is over back to reality

quoting the Joker, "and here, we,....go"

I think this is a fair question. Do these Texans deserve our support?

Right now, if 'deserve our support' means going to the games, for some no, because I'm not going to spend my money next season if the wheels fall off and we still have a mediocre team with a coach who can't get em over the hump. If we by chance go 8-8 again, then no I won't support them (monetarily), by buying tickets, but i will support them (emotionally), from my couch.

I am as big of a fan as anyone. I buy the multiple Jerseys for each of our themed games. I got the license plate, I buy the tickets for the games, I post and talk and live and eat and breath Texan football. I get to the stadium hours early and am usually one of the first through the gates just to watch the team warm up. I go to the stadium and purchase the $10 potato along with the $8 beer and wait 15 minutes in the bathrooms so I can have someone behind me watch me pee. I have my office decorated with Texans stuff and talk smack to that dumbass down the hall who is a crygirl fan. I do the same thing that thousands of Texan fans do everyday.

That's great, we all support them in our own way. But whether they suck or not, my gear still comes out on Sunday and I support and root for my them. But if they continue sucking, I'm not buying '2nd season sideline gear' if I don't feel their play warrants it, plus that's our choice and having the most gear doesn't make me a better fan than anyone else. The game time experience of being there should be experienced by any fan, its the American way.

But does this team deserve such loyalty?

This team doesn't 'deserve' our loyalty, its not deserved, its EARNED.

What have they done for me lately? Break my heart? Fall below expectations? Prove the naysayers correct? Make me look foolish?

Pretty much, yeah.

Sure, I have read the "True fan" posts and listened to the "True fan" callers on the radio. I have to admit I chuckle a bit. First I would like to point out that no I do not leave early. I paid for 60 minutes of football and dammit I am gonna get 60 minutes of football. I might not get 60 minutes from this team but I am gonna at least stare at the field and think how awful the turf looks.

People can stay or people can go, but like someone said, "if the movie is bad or you already know how the plot and ending is, we are free to get up and leave." I may have paid to see the game, but in the end if I know its another bad display, guess what, I got cold beer and warm brisket waiting for me on the outside.


I loosely compare the fans relationship with this team as an abusive one. Sure they punch us in the gut every Sunday but its there way of saying they love us.

Yeah, not really a good analogy, I would compare it to that lovable puppy that won't stop ****ting/pissing on the carpet, cause you always have that faint stain there afterwards as reminder.


Especially with some of the players coming out now and starting to question our loyalty to the team. Like its somehow our fault they are losing. Sure they just hit me in the face with a chair and broke my nose but if I had done the dishes he wouldn't of been so upset. So yeah, I guess it is my fault. At least Farrah Fawcett had enough balls to set the bed on fire.

Umm, do you or a some friend need the number to a crisis hotline or better yet, need for us to call the cops for you? Not a fan of this analogy.
Seriously though, the players ought to look at more game film and be prepare better than worry about what our loyalty mindset is. They know cause we let em know.


Maybe on one hand I am not a "True Fan". I am only a fan of this team b/c I am from here. Born and raised here. If I wasn't from here there would be no way in Hell I would root for this team. 4-12, 5-11, 7-9, 2-14, 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, and now 5-6. Why would I be? But I am a Houstonian. That is my shield and they fly my banner for better or worse. Each and every week we Houstonians send our guys off to compete with other cities around the nation. They are our representatives. They speak for us. They show the rest of the nation what Houston is about. And for 8 years they have told the nation we are a bunch of dorks. We are the Steve Urckle of the league. When we do win a game we snort and ask "Did I do that?"

I'm trying to understand this statement. I'm from here too but I didn't choose the Texans because I'm from here. I'm born and raised in Houston too, but I love the Yankees, San Jose Sharks, and oh yeah the Rockets and Texans too, but its a reason that I'm sure is different from everyone else, so to each his own. As for them representing our city, yeah I'm sure the owner and GM has guidelines for their actions, its called being a professional.

On the other hand maybe I am a "True Fan". I am ready to scold and punish this team for bad behavior. I do b/c I care, b/c I love this team. If my daughter does something wrong I put her in time out or take away certain privileges. Does that mean I don't love or care about her? No, it doesn't. It means that I am disappointed in her actions and I expect more from her. Like I expect more from the Texans.

Umm, again bad analogy, I'm not my son's fan, I'm his parent. Apples n Oranges.

I, like 10's of thousands of you invest way to much of our hard earned money and expend our limited amount of time that we have throughout the day on a team that just doesn't seem to care about its fan base.

I think they care, it would be stupid to bite the hand that feeds you.

These players don't care about us, or there coach's. They are starting to turn the fan base away and are about to get there coach's fired.

Again, the players care, they're just as frustrated as we are. The fan base is still there, just unhappy. The coaches, well it seems some of them may be looking for new gigs come next season.


Well like the players say, its a business. And like any other business there needs to be a product that people want. If you don't have that product that people want then you go out of business.

It is a business and you are right, but this product right now is just bad, and definitely not going out of business anytime soon.

Just my two cents on the entire season and last 8 years. The last time Houston was in a playoff Joe Montana led the Chiefs past an Oiler team that had home field advantage throughout.

So bottom line is that support isn't deserved regarding a football team, its earned.

Malloy
12-03-2009, 01:34 AM
I'm not a fan of the team, just the TexansTalk message board, thats why I'm here all the time ;)

:worldpeace:

infantrycak
12-03-2009, 01:47 AM
Keep in mind that the question is not do the Texans deserve our support, but do these Texans deserve our support? This squad.

No, people are evidently simply unable to frame issues correctly. The Texans don't deserve anyone's support. They are a local sports franchise. The question is do you choose to call them your team/be a fan/support them? They owe you jack and you owe them jack. It's a business. You choose whether to go put a dollar in her g-string. She doesn't owe you crap.

TB - this analogy was dedicated to you.

Silver Oak
12-03-2009, 05:05 AM
Hell...I followed some of Bud's worst teams when he was camped in the Astrodome, so this team looks like a polished pearl compared to those turds he trotted out.

If I ever give up our Texans tickets and support that way, it will be cause we tired of the Sunday's away from our home/church, and not due to the team record or effort.

So...short answer is yes.

Thorn
12-03-2009, 05:47 AM
Despite Bud Adams, I supported the Oilers, they were my team. When they left town I gave up on them, they were no longer my team. I've lived in Houston since the early 60s so I'm not going to have any emotional investment in another team in another city. I might watch them, admire them, but not really support them.

Since the Texans are the local pro football team, they are my team. Be they good, bad, whatever, I'll be watching them and supporting them. Doesn't mean I won't hate them at times, but I'll be watching on Sundays.

In the last seven years I loved them, hated them, cheered them on, cheered for them to lose because I was pissed, embarrased by them, and given hope by them. It's all part of the deal.

Kaiser Toro
12-03-2009, 08:21 AM
They do not deserve anything, but I have enjoyed this team more than any other and will continue to support the team. However, I strongly feel that we need a shake up on the staff and still need to improve at many of the same positions as when Kubiak got here.

TheCD
12-03-2009, 08:34 AM
9-7 or above and no playoffs means the Texans have turned the corner and are ready to take on the next challenge of being a contender. I know I don't want to go to the playoffs until I know we can win a few playoff games and possibly go to the Super Bowl.


I agree that a winning season would be a good step in the right direction(who wouldn't right?). But at this point, 9-7 isn't good enough. I wouldn't have said that three weeks ago, but this team is better than 9-7. 3 consecutive games lost in the 4th quarter, all heartbreakers...and ALL against division opponents. I have been on the Kubiak bandwagon since the beginning (I was a supporter for him coming here). But losing that way to the Colts 2 years in a row? Inexcusable. Not against the Colts.

Kubiak said when he came here that the key to getting to the playoffs was winning the division, so he drafted Mario to keep Peyton in his place. Mario has done his job, but we have yet to win the division, or even place 2nd.

I want a coach that will shut the Titans up by decisively beating them. Vince Young is not on our team and I don't care WHO wanted him here...he's not here. I want to beat him because he's not a Houston Texan. I want to put a hurting on that team when they play in Houston because that cry-baby came out early because he THOUGHT he would be drafted by us...so he has a personal vendetta against our team. Sorry Vince, you were born, raised and made a legacy in Houston, but Tennessee is your home now...get over it.

I want a coach that will put it to the Colts. I want a coach that won't have me brimming with excitement when we're up by 17 points and dominating Pouting Manning...only to have my wife tell me not to be too excited because we might blow it. I want to see Peyton boo-hooing AFTER the game...not as a pre-miraculous-comeback-activity.

I want to see us dominate a MUCH WORSE Jags team, especially at home. To lose the way we have to them is absurd. We're better than them...we need to put them away the way they would when they were better and playing in Jacksonville.


Is Kubiak the coach to do that? I lost faith in that last week. He can't win the division, he can't hold on to leads. I don't care if you're up by 17 against a team with Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, T.O., Gayle Sayers, Barry Sanders, and whomever else. YOU DON'T BLOW A 17 POINT LEAD AT HOME...MUCH LESS EVER. I know that tends to be the m.o. of Houston football, but it has to stop.


I just want a coach who can win the division. We do that, we make the playoffs and go deep into it. If it's Kubiak, great. If not...replace him on January 4th, please.

Texan_Bill
12-03-2009, 08:42 AM
No, people are evidently simply unable to frame issues correctly. The Texans don't deserve anyone's support. They are a local sports franchise. The question is do you choose to call them your team/be a fan/support them? They owe you jack and you owe them jack. It's a business. You choose whether to go put a dollar in her g-string. She doesn't owe you crap.

TB - this analogy was dedicated to you.

Well played sir....

TB: "Bartender will you break this $100.00 bill? I need some ones."

HOU-TEX
12-03-2009, 09:15 AM
I will always support them, they're my team. That said, I had the wind taken from my sails for this season after the Monday night game. I will continue to watch the remainder of our games closely, just without the emotion and expectations I had for the season.

IMO, the fork was jabbed in my playoff hopes after that game. It freakin hurt!

houstonspartan
12-03-2009, 10:12 AM
I will always support them, they're my team. That said, I had the wind taken from my sails for this season after the Monday night game. I will continue to watch the remainder of our games closely, just without the emotion and expectations I had for the season.

IMO, the fork was jabbed in my playoff hopes after that game. It freakin hurt!


Yep. That game was depressing. And I was depressed for a few days after. I was looking forward to that game all year.

What I really don't get is how we weren't prepared, coming right off the bye week. I know the bye week is to rest and relax, but, geez, the Tennessee game was important. They knew that. We were completely unprepared.

I was embarrassed.

Dread-Head
12-03-2009, 10:47 AM
"I, Dreadford Headdington III /(Dread Head)
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team
To watch and to listen,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sobriety and in drunkenness,
To love and to cherish,
through the cursing and the praising
'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as you don't move out of Houston.")

Texan_Bill
12-03-2009, 10:49 AM
I, Texan_Bill
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team..
blah, blah, blah


Screw it... Marry me *****!!!

Dread-Head
12-03-2009, 11:12 AM
I, Texan_Bill
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team..
blah, blah, blah


Screw it... Marry me *****!!!

They had you at "drunkenness" didn't they?

Double Barrel
12-03-2009, 11:30 AM
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."
~ William Munny :howdy:

Is "loyalty" and "support" two different concepts?

If so, I can say I am loyal to the Texans, but I am not currently financially supporting them anymore. I've got more Texans gear than I know what to do with - I could wear a different Texans shirt for well over a month - so I won't be buying any new gear in the near future. And I just can't afford the season tickets anymore due to various financial constraints right now (yes, some things in life are just more important than football).

But, I am loyal to them and will never quit being a fan, regardless of how dreadful it can feel sometimes to see our team be consistent in their inconsistency.

Loyalty = for life

Financial support = depends on various circumstances

Dread-Head
12-03-2009, 11:37 AM
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."
~ William Munny :howdy:

Is "loyalty" and "support" two different concepts?

If so, I can say I am loyal to the Texans, but I am not currently financially supporting them anymore. I've got more Texans gear than I know what to do with - I could wear a different Texans shirt for well over a month - so I won't be buying any new gear in the near future. And I just can't afford the season tickets anymore due to various financial constraints right now (yes, some things in life are just more important than football).

But, I am loyal to them and will never quit being a fan, regardless of how dreadful it can feel sometimes to see our team be consistent in their inconsistency.

Loyalty = for life

Financial support = depends on various circumstances

:dancer: You call?

TEXANRED
12-03-2009, 12:49 PM
I will always support them, they're my team. That said, I had the wind taken from my sails for this season after the Monday night game. I will continue to watch the remainder of our games closely, just without the emotion and expectations I had for the season.

IMO, the fork was jabbed in my playoff hopes after that game. It freakin hurt!

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it."
~ William Munny

Is "loyalty" and "support" two different concepts?

If so, I can say I am loyal to the Texans, but I am not currently financially supporting them anymore. I've got more Texans gear than I know what to do with - I could wear a different Texans shirt for well over a month - so I won't be buying any new gear in the near future. And I just can't afford the season tickets anymore due to various financial constraints right now (yes, some things in life are just more important than football).

But, I am loyal to them and will never quit being a fan, regardless of how dreadful it can feel sometimes to see our team be consistent in their inconsistency.

Loyalty = for life

Financial support = depends on various circumstances

This is the stage that I am at.

I will always be loyal to the Texans, thats my team. But loyalty and support are two very different things. Like I am loyal to America but I didn't support Bush.

Well I am loyal to the Texans but should I support players like DRob, Amobi, Williams, our OLine, ect? Does Kubiak deserve my support? Why should I support him if I, or we, do choose to do so? What have they done but fall short of our expectations? We have the talent, but is it heart or coaching we lack?

No, people are evidently simply unable to frame issues correctly. The Texans don't deserve anyone's support. They are a local sports franchise. The question is do you choose to call them your team/be a fan/support them? They owe you jack and you owe them jack. It's a business. You choose whether to go put a dollar in her g-string. She doesn't owe you crap.

Really the question comes from listening as of late to some players starting to gripe about the fans. You know, how they cheer for HWMNBN, leave the Stadium early, still rooting for a team that no longer exists. They come across to me like we owe them some debt of graditude just b/c they are Houston Texans.

I personaly dont feel as though I owe them my support b/c they have not done anything to deserve it outside of #59, #80, #56, and #31.



I'm trying to understand this statement. I'm from here too but I didn't choose the Texans because I'm from here. I'm born and raised in Houston too, but I love the Yankees, San Jose Sharks, and oh yeah the Rockets and Texans too, but its a reason that I'm sure is different from everyone else, so to each his own. As for them representing our city, yeah I'm sure the owner and GM has guidelines for their actions, its called being a professional.


See I am not a fan of any other sports teams other than the Houston ones. I mean I like certain players from other teams that I route for but not the entire team. I did however root for the Broncos when we didnt have a team.

silvrhand
12-03-2009, 01:16 PM
Noone deserves anything, they earn it. I will always be a fan of the Houston football teams, whether it was the oilers or the Texans. They get my support, and by support it's telling them when they are doing great by cheering, celebrating, and making noise when we need to. I also support them by leaving early, negative reinforcement, and expecting them to do better than they are.

Since when has everyone come to think underperforming is fixed by patting someone on the shoulder and tell them it's ok? You need to not make the same mistakes over and over and improve. That's what good people do, losers just lose.

stevn8r
12-03-2009, 01:50 PM
"I, Stevn8r
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team
To watch and to listen,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sobriety and in drunkenness,
To love and to cherish,
through the cursing and the praising
'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as you don't move out of Houston.")



YES "these" Texans deserve our support! The MNF game killed me! this is my first post since then.... I needed a break:gun: :firehair:
When things start to go bad, it is easy to escalate and start pointing fingers...That is just a part of disappointment...
But, Family always sticks together! So, 2-14 or 8-8 or 10-6(oh Lord Please!!!)
I will support and be loyal!

And I also have a really good time tailgating with you guys! So I got that going for me!!! :whip:

Wolf
12-04-2009, 10:18 PM
I, Texan_Bill
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team..
blah, blah, blah


Screw it... Marry me *****!!!

oh my stars that is funny :spit:

Texan Asylum
12-05-2009, 03:14 PM
as I said back on September 8, 2002

"I, Wolf
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team
To watch and to listen,
From this day forward,
For better, for worse,
For richer, for poorer,
In sobriety and in drunkenness,
To love and to cherish,
through the cursing and the praising
'Till death do us part." (or, "As long as you don't move out of Houston.")

............................

little did I know what I was getting into .. guess I have the 7 year itch now :turtle:

on seriousness.. for me it is probably more like having a kid.. you are going to love them no matter what, and they will do some stupid ****, but you are going to be there no matter what.. even on some days you want to disown them LOL

You must spread...blah...blah...blah...

Lol man! Rep as soon as I can get ya! :bravo:

I too, for better, or for worse! :chili:

Giant Tiger
12-05-2009, 09:53 PM
I've been a fan ever since the NFL gave Houston the franchise, before they even had a nickname. Even though I live far away, I cheered for the Oilers in the 70's (34 is still my lucky number). I remember watching that Monday night game against the Patriots when the Astrodome was rockin'. I felt the pain when Adams moved the team. I lost my hockey team (they became the Colorado Avalanche) & baseball team, too.

I can't stand the Colorado Avalanche, so obviously cheering for the Titans would be a contradiction. That's okay, Adams & Titan fans make that team easy to hate. I'm glad I held out for the Texans. People up here see my Texans car flag & license plate, and ask me why I don't have a hockey team on my car "like everybody else". That's easy; there's no other team worth cheering for. BTW, I'm hoping to make it to a game in a couple of years. So to answer your question; Yes these Texans deserve my support :fans:

CloakNNNdagger
12-05-2009, 10:18 PM
I, Texan_Bill
Take you, Texans,
To be my NFL Team..
blah, blah, blah


Screw it... Marry me *****!!!

The wedding night sure ought to be interesting.:smooch:

OzzO
12-06-2009, 11:14 AM
...Kubiak said when he came here that the key to getting to the playoffs was winning the division, so he drafted Mario to keep Peyton in his place. Mario has done his job, but we have yet to win the division, or even place 2nd.

...I want a coach that will shut the Titans up by decisively beating them. Vince Young is not on our team and I don't care WHO wanted him here......

I want a coach that will put it to the Colts. I want a coach that won't have me brimming with excitement when we're up by 17 points ...

I want to see us dominate a MUCH WORSE Jags team, especially at home. To lose the way we have to them is absurd. ...

.... I don't care if you're up by 17 against a team with Joe Montana, Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, T.O., Gayle Sayers, Barry Sanders, and whomever else. YOU DON'T BLOW A 17 POINT LEAD AT HOME...MUCH LESS EVER. I know that tends to be the m.o. of Houston football, but it has to stop.

I just want a coach who can win the division. We do that, we make the playoffs and go deep into it. If it's Kubiak, great. If not...replace him on January 4th, please.

PREACH! (and rep) I think you just put into words where I'm pretty much at with the Texans.

To answer the OP - they get my loyalty, as mentioned above, but right now they're not DESERVING my support.

....though they still get a bit on occasions. (where have I heard that before)

Texans_00
12-06-2009, 02:57 PM
[QUOTE=TEXANRED;1314576]I think this is a fair question. Do these Texans deserve our support?

QUOTE]


Hell YES!!!!!!


So you wouldn't support Texans if you weren't in Houston...well I have been a fan since Sept, 2000 (10 YEARS) in Dallas/Fort Worth area. So believe I have gotten 10 times the STUFF, you have for my being a Texans fan...am I quitting on team...HELL NO!!!!

As to your whine about players questioning your loyalty, last I heard Schaub had umitigated gall to say we haven't quit, don't you quit on team.....OMG HOW BAD IS THAT!!!

I am not quitting, am sick of a coach plays it safe when we could win. But I didn't put 700 MILLION DOLLARS on the table like Mr. McNair did, so it is HIS team of which I am a fan. I said all that to say Mr. McNair is no happier than we are @ team's play, he will make wise decsions (especially since he knows more of what is going then all of us put together) going forward
:texan:

Texecutioner
12-06-2009, 03:07 PM
Short version answer.

Do the Texans deserve our support? Yes

Does the coaching staff deserve our support? No!

mariowillshine15
12-06-2009, 03:07 PM
Short version answer.

Do the Texans deserve our support? Yes

Does the coaching staff deserve our support? No!

Rep to ya. Here here

TexCanada
12-06-2009, 03:08 PM
Short version answer.

Do the Texans deserve our support? Yes

Does the coaching staff deserve our support? No!

You have hit the nail on the head my friend.

euro-Texan
12-06-2009, 03:31 PM
Yes they do. I'm fring home from AllTel right now pissed and discusted. But.... I still and will always support the Texans!