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CDNTexansFan
11-23-2009, 11:03 PM
You make national headlines for holding out and then for writing dumbass comments on your cleats. Then tonight you come out and play one of the most pathetic games of your career on Monday Night Football. The country now knows you are nothing but a joke.

You should be absolutely embarrassed. That was a disgusting display out there on the field tonight. Way to prove to everyone that Rick Smith was completely right in not giving you the fat contract you wanted. Maybe it's cause you knew something the rest of us didn't, you can't bloody cover anymore.

StevieWonder
11-23-2009, 11:05 PM
Every time we play I see a reason not to resign him.

Big Lou
11-23-2009, 11:06 PM
You make national headlines for holding out and then for writing dumbass comments on your cleats. Then tonight you come out and play one of the most pathetic games of your career on Monday Night Football. The country now knows you are nothing but a joke.

You should be absolutely embarrassed. That was a disgusting display out there on the field tonight. Way to prove to everyone that Rick Smith was completely right in not giving you the fat contract you wanted. Maybe it's cause you knew something the rest of us didn't, you can't bloody cover anymore.

YES.

I would cut Dunta before Kris Brown. He was good for his one Pass Interference Call per game ass ussual. Missed a 10 million dollar Int. and wiffed at least once if memory serves.

Leahmic223
11-23-2009, 11:06 PM
Gave up tons of big plays.

VY threw him a pass, no catch.

Burned by Britt for a TD.

I know there was another huge mistake he made and can't remember.

drewmar74
11-23-2009, 11:06 PM
That franchise tag is looking a great deal now.

Yeah, we're paying him 9 mil to get burnt now, but at least we're not paying him a gazillion to get burnt for the next 5-6 years.

GNTLEWOLF
11-23-2009, 11:07 PM
You make national headlines for holding out and then for writing dumbass comments on your cleats. Then tonight you come out and play one of the most pathetic games of your career on Monday Night Football. The country now knows you are nothing but a joke.

You should be absolutely embarrassed. That was a disgusting display out there on the field tonight. Way to prove to everyone that Rick Smith was completely right in not giving you the fat contract you wanted. Maybe it's cause you knew something the rest of us didn't, you can't bloody cover anymore.

My Thoughts Exactly!.

HTown2ATX
11-23-2009, 11:07 PM
You make national headlines for holding out and then for writing dumbass comments on your cleats. Then tonight you come out and play one of the most pathetic games of your career on Monday Night Football. The country now knows you are nothing but a joke.

You should be absolutely embarrassed. That was a disgusting display out there on the field tonight. Way to prove to everyone that Rick Smith was completely right in not giving you the fat contract you wanted. Maybe it's cause you knew something the rest of us didn't, you can't bloody cover anymore.

Seriously!

That dropped pick...C'Mon Man.

Anyone who doesn't live in Austin, you can at least listen to sports radio tomorrow without more VY jock licking. Here, it will be Jon Gruden BJ's for vince part Duex by all the local radio hosts and most likely no more Texans on TV.

Be thankful you do not live in this place.

Maddict5
11-23-2009, 11:08 PM
like i posted in another thread:

anyone going to miss dunta next year? i know i sure as hell wont. covering like petey, (non)tackling like bennett and catching like troy williamson :rolleyes:

we need to bench his scrub ass like we did bennett and let quin and reeves start

New_Texans
11-23-2009, 11:08 PM
Dunta is the weakest link in the DB. Quin didn't get thrown at anymore that entire game whereas Dunta was constantly picked on.

TexCanada
11-23-2009, 11:09 PM
Ya Dunta is done. We now know for sure that CB is one of our top priorities of the offseason. He looked terrible out there tonight.

redwhiteANDblue
11-23-2009, 11:10 PM
Seriously!

That dropped pick...C'Mon Man.

Anyone who doesn't live in Austin, you can at least listen to sports radio tomorrow without more VY jock licking. Here, it will be Jon Gruden BJ's for vince part Duex by all the local radio hosts and most likely no more Texans on TV.

Be thankful you do not live in this place.

It's going to be a long week for us fans

TexanFan881
11-23-2009, 11:17 PM
The other one you are thinking about was a Vince Young run for like 15 yards on 3rd where he took a horrible angle inside and let him make him look like a fool

Goatcheese
11-23-2009, 11:20 PM
You make national headlines for holding out and then for writing dumbass comments on your cleats. Then tonight you come out and play one of the most pathetic games of your career on Monday Night Football. The country now knows you are nothing but a joke.

You should be absolutely embarrassed. That was a disgusting display out there on the field tonight. Way to prove to everyone that Rick Smith was completely right in not giving you the fat contract you wanted. Maybe it's cause you knew something the rest of us didn't, you can't bloody cover anymore.

I only saw him give up 3 receptions, and 2 defensive holding calls. 1 hold they didn't show (phantom call), and the other the receiver ran straight into him; AKA horse shit.

The INT would have been a tough catch for a WR, and there's a reason the guy is playing defense.

The TD pass was on a route that is very difficult to cover man to man without help. It's a drag route clear across the field, in a situation where you have to defend everything short, and the corner fade. That's why I like zone defense inside the 10.

He has clearly lost his edge in run support. I can't defend the BS tackle attempts he's had this season. They've just been ugly.

Esoom
11-23-2009, 11:21 PM
Dunta and Kris Brown screwed all the people on this team that were playing their asses off tonight. They owe a big apology to a Mr. Brian Cushing and a Mr. Andre Johnson, and nearly every other player on the roster.

bckey
11-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Send Antonio Smith packing with Dunta. Elbowing Mawae in the side was very embarrassing for this team on national tv. He made the Texans look really bad along with their piss poor overall play.

Scooter
11-23-2009, 11:27 PM
I only saw him give up 3 receptions, and 2 defensive holding calls. 1 hold they didn't show (phantom call), and the other the receiver ran straight into him; AKA horse shit.

The INT would have been a tough catch for a WR, and there's a reason the guy is playing defense.

The TD pass was on a route that is very difficult to cover man to man without help. It's a drag route clear across the field, in a situation where you have to defend everything short, and the corner fade. That's why I like zone defense inside the 10.

He has clearly lost his edge in run support. I can't defend the BS tackle attempts he's had this season. They've just been ugly.

the INT hit him dead on, a safety wearing a cast should've caught that.

the TD route showed me that dunta has lost what made him truely special and that is (what used to be) his insane closing speed. dunta was 2 steps behind when the receiver broke into his route and was 3 steps behind at the catch. dunta's market was his willingness to hit, and before injury dunta had arguably the best closing (5-10yd) burst of any DB in football.

despite praise, dunta's never been a good tackler. he's been a great hitter, but the two are far from exclusive.

finally, has dunta had a game he HASNT been penalized this season? cut bait texans, there's equivelant or better on the market next season for a fraction of the cost.

Statis22
11-23-2009, 11:28 PM
Truuuuueee story.

hradhak
11-23-2009, 11:30 PM
I agree that Dunta needs to go. I think he has become a liability on the run defense. There were several Chris Johnson plays that went for several more yards because Dunta picked bad angles. I think CB should be one of our top priorities in the offseason.

JayCee
11-23-2009, 11:32 PM
great move by the front office not to sign this guy long term.

Goatcheese
11-23-2009, 11:34 PM
the INT hit him dead on, a safety wearing a cast should've caught that.

the TD route showed me that dunta has lost what made him truely special and that is (what used to be) his insane closing speed. dunta was 2 steps behind when the receiver broke into his route and was 3 steps behind at the catch. dunta's market was his willingness to hit, and before injury dunta had arguably the best closing (5-10yd) burst of any DB in football.

despite praise, dunta's never been a good tackler. he's been a great hitter, but the two are far from exclusive.

finally, has dunta had a game he HASNT been penalized this season? cut bait texans, there's equivelant or better on the market next season for a fraction of the cost.

When did a sideways flying INT become so easy even a safety with a cast on his hand could make it?

This has been DR's best season as a cover man. He's giving up far fewer receptions, yards and TDs than he ever did before the injury. 2007 he was average or worse.

He wasn't a good wrap up tackler, but when he hit people it was usually the end of the play. Now he is just a poor tackler.

There is most definitely not better out there for less. You either have to spend a first rounder and develope the player over years, make a trade, or spend crazy jack in Free Agency.

BattleRedToro
11-23-2009, 11:45 PM
Send Antonio Smith packing with Dunta. Elbowing Mawae in the side was very embarrassing for this team on national tv. He made the Texans look really bad along with their piss poor overall play.

I don't agree. The Titans are a dirty team and I can't blame a guy for retaliating, especially since the refs weren't going to penalize the Titans for their typical crap. My only regrets were that he didn't end Mawae's career.

Scooter
11-23-2009, 11:46 PM
sideways flying INT? c'mon now, he was vertical with half-stretched arms - praise the great read, because it was one and a great job causing an incompletion. dont throw extra out there just to defend what should've been an easy interception.

i'm knee deep in some wild turkey so i'm not going to argue fellow disgruntled fans, but keep it honest.

Scooter
11-23-2009, 11:48 PM
Send Antonio Smith packing with Dunta. Elbowing Mawae in the side was very embarrassing for this team on national tv. He made the Texans look really bad along with their piss poor overall play.

for all mawae gets away with, smith should get a medal for his restraint.

Leahmic223
11-23-2009, 11:52 PM
There is most definitely not better out there for less. You either have to spend a first rounder and develope the player over years, make a trade, or spend crazy jack in Free Agency.


Colts sure don't think so.

Their CBs are always small name guys you learn about when the game starts.

utahmark
11-23-2009, 11:54 PM
is it the injury? while never a shut down corner he used to cover better than this.

TexanExile
11-23-2009, 11:57 PM
His greatest trademark was that he was feared as a hard hitter. He's not even a tackler, much less a hitter, anymore. He's Philip Buchanon with more hair and less care.

Make a statement to the team. Cut him tomorrow.

drewmar74
11-23-2009, 11:58 PM
His greatest trademark was that he was feared as a hard hitter. He's not even a tackler, much less a hitter, anymore. He's Philip Buchanon with more hair and less care.

Make a statement to the team. Cut him tomorrow.

See bold.

I smell a new signature.

Goatcheese
11-24-2009, 12:00 AM
Colts sure don't think so.

Their CBs are always small name guys you learn about when the game starts.

Colts play Tampa 2. It's a lot easier to find a guy who can cover a 10 x 10 yard zone, than a man to man/ cover 3 corner like the Texans need.

is it the injury? while never a shut down corner he used to cover better than this.

No he didn't.

He's giving up 30% fewer yards, and receptions in 2009 than he did in 2007 when people were raving about his pro bowl season.

Hervoyel
11-24-2009, 12:00 AM
great move by the front office not to sign this guy long term.

Remember though they tried to. Dodged a bullet there.

CDNTexansFan
11-24-2009, 12:05 AM
When did a sideways flying INT become so easy even a safety with a cast on his hand could make it?

This has been DR's best season as a cover man. He's giving up far fewer receptions, yards and TDs than he ever did before the injury. 2007 he was average or worse.

He wasn't a good wrap up tackler, but when he hit people it was usually the end of the play. Now he is just a poor tackler.

There is most definitely not better out there for less. You either have to spend a first rounder and develope the player over years, make a trade, or spend crazy jack in Free Agency.

It's a pick that any NFL DB should and has to make. It's definitely a play Pro-Bowler will make.

I probably misspoke when saying that Dunta cannot cover anymore, he has not been horrible this year IMO, but he is also giving up a poor completion % and a high number of yards against for the amount of times he is being thrown at. Couple this with his inability to play against the run consistently and his penchant for taking penalties, he has just not been nearly good enough for us. Infact, I would challenge anyone to show the tape of tonight to someone who knows nothing about the game, I would bet money that they would point out Glover Quin as being the guy with all the accolades and not Dunta.

I agree that the touchdown catch he allowed was a tough route to cover. Having to come all the way across the field on the backside of a receiver is definitely a tough play for a DB. I think what's so frustrating is the fact that he never really came close to having good coverage on the receiver. Vince Young could have thrown that ball at any given time and it would have been a completion, Dunta just doesn't seem to have the closing speed. I think back to San Fran when Isaac Bruce blew right by him on a deep ball and Dunta had to take PI to keep him from making the catch. It's really not looking very good for him as a top end corner anymore.

Scooter
11-24-2009, 12:05 AM
is it the injury? while never a shut down corner he used to cover better than this.

this is my best guess, his injury has really slowed dunta down ... and let's be fair, that was a nasty injury. i'd rather watch joe theismann 100 times than see the slow-motion replay of dunta's planted leg get distorted forward. dunta as i've written several times earlier in his career had an absolutely insane closing burst once the ball was in the air. for anyone that watched the pregame talking about chris johnson and deon sander's "where did he go" speed, that's exactly what i mean - he could make 5 yards of seperation disappear in a blink. he's never been completely sound but his willingness to throw his body into a play and his second gear were what seperated him. he's still not a great "tackler", but he'll throw his body into a play. where he's lost what made him great was in his legs and despite a better understanding of the game (making him what should be a better player), he's lost what made him special in my opinion. now he's making up for that loss with holding penalties and pass interferance.

TexCanada
11-24-2009, 12:27 AM
Dunta is a step or two slower then he used to be it really shows. He really seems to have lost his swagger too. I guess its pretty humbling to get picked on by a running QB and a rookie WR. Unfortunately, finding a new CB has become a higher priority than FS for us in the off-season.

Goatcheese
11-24-2009, 12:28 AM
It's a pick that any NFL DB should and has to make. It's definitely a play Pro-Bowler will make.

D-Rob has never made the Pro bowl. :bubbles:

I probably misspoke when saying that Dunta cannot cover anymore, he has not been horrible this year IMO, but he is also giving up a poor completion % and a high number of yards against for the amount of times he is being thrown at. Couple this with his inability to play against the run consistently and his penchant for taking penalties, he has just not been nearly good enough for us. Infact, I would challenge anyone to show the tape of tonight to someone who knows nothing about the game, I would bet money that they would point out Glover Quin as being the guy with all the accolades and not Dunta.

A person who knows nothing about football doesn't know what they're watching, so their opinion means pretty much nothing.

I agree that the touchdown catch he allowed was a tough route to cover. Having to come all the way across the field on the backside of a receiver is definitely a tough play for a DB. I think what's so frustrating is the fact that he never really came close to having good coverage on the receiver. Vince Young could have thrown that ball at any given time and it would have been a completion, Dunta just doesn't seem to have the closing speed. I think back to San Fran when Isaac Bruce blew right by him on a deep ball and Dunta had to take PI to keep him from making the catch. It's really not looking very good for him as a top end corner anymore.

He's definitely not what he used to be physically, but he's a better cover man now which is much more important. Nnamdi Asomugha is a 4.45-4.5 guy and is the best corner in the league. Being smart is better than being fast. Dozens, maybe hundreds of 4.3 guys have been run out of the NFL because they don't have the mental side.

Robinson was in great position on the Bruce PI call, but got caught throwing his arm out when he turned around to break up the pass.

Kimmy
11-24-2009, 12:39 AM
You make national headlines for holding out and then for writing dumbass comments on your cleats.

His shoes next week? "Pay me UNEMPLOYMENT LINE!!!!"

*hands him the marker*

Spled
11-24-2009, 08:45 AM
There's got to be better ways to spend 10 million dollars. He thinks he doesn't need training camp and then, in this important game, he gets toasted repeatedly and drops an interception that hit him in the numbers.

TEXANS84
11-24-2009, 08:48 AM
Sports radio 610 summed it up perfectly last night after the game:

"I guess Dunta doesn't have thumbs because that ball was thrown perfectly to his hands and why he didn't catch that, I have no idea".

silvrhand
11-24-2009, 08:55 AM
When did a sideways flying INT become so easy even a safety with a cast on his hand could make it?

This has been DR's best season as a cover man. He's giving up far fewer receptions, yards and TDs than he ever did before the injury. 2007 he was average or worse.

He wasn't a good wrap up tackler, but when he hit people it was usually the end of the play. Now he is just a poor tackler.

There is most definitely not better out there for less. You either have to spend a first rounder and develope the player over years, make a trade, or spend crazy jack in Free Agency.

Are you kidding me, are you telling me we can't get a quality corner for less than 9 million a year? Yah of course his stats are down cause everytime someone throws at him it's a defensive holding/pass interference call.

thunderkyss
11-24-2009, 09:00 AM
cut bait texans, there's equivelant or better on the market next season for a fraction of the cost.

Jaques Reeves is already on the Roster.

HOU-TEX
11-24-2009, 09:06 AM
I stuck with Dunta throughout his contract negotiations and holdout, but my feet are dangling off his bandwagon and I'm looking for a soft spot to jump off. Two penalties, gave up a TD to a rook, dropped a pick my mom would've made and looked stupid on a few tackles.

For everyone blaming Kris for this loss, you might want to re-direct that blame to someone who possibly deserves it more.

santo
11-24-2009, 09:06 AM
Sports radio 610 summed it up perfectly last night after the game:

"I guess Dunta doesn't have thumbs because that ball was thrown perfectly to his hands and why he didn't catch that, I have no idea".


The sad thing about it is that he was waiting for it. I saw it on the replay.

Porky
11-24-2009, 11:42 AM
Send Antonio Smith packing with Dunta. Elbowing Mawae in the side was very embarrassing for this team on national tv. He made the Texans look really bad along with their piss poor overall play.

Disagree. Mawae made a dirty play on him, and he simply retaliated. Smith is one of the few FA signings that has actually panned out.

As for Dunta, he was just plain bad last night all the way around. In fact, I thought both he and Andre were off thier games. Andre looked disinterested and didn't give his best effort imo. So, these guys need to look in the mirror and man up.

Cjeremy635
11-24-2009, 11:48 AM
Disagree. Mawae made a dirty play on him, and he simply retaliated. Smith is one of the few FA signings that has actually panned out.

As for Dunta, he was just plain bad last night all the way around. In fact, I thought both he and Andre were off thier games. Andre looked disinterested and didn't give his best effort imo. So, these guys need to look in the mirror and man up.

I thought the same thing as well. Andre dropped a few passes that he normally would have made and Dunta was picked on repeatedly. That's not something you want to have happen to your "pro bowl" corner.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-24-2009, 11:54 AM
Can't wait til that bum Dunta is off this team. He was by far the worst player on the field last night, and that includes Kris Brown.

HOU-TEX
11-24-2009, 11:59 AM
Disagree. Mawae made a dirty play on him, and he simply retaliated. Smith is one of the few FA signings that has actually panned out.

As for Dunta, he was just plain bad last night all the way around. In fact, I thought both he and Andre were off thier games. Andre looked disinterested and didn't give his best effort imo. So, these guys need to look in the mirror and man up.

I can agree to a certain extent. But if we mentioned AJ having an off game you've got to mention Schaub throwing balls at ankles.

In the end, our passing game is one of the least worries.

Texan_Bill
11-24-2009, 12:02 PM
http://wtfisup.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/ept_sports_nfl_experts-646570627-1253219133.jpg

Should've read: "Invoice me Rick".


Dude should be in jail for stealing money.

silvrhand
11-24-2009, 12:02 PM
I can agree to a certain extent. But if we mentioned AJ having an off game you've got to mention Schaub throwing balls at ankles.

In the end, our passing game is one of the least worries.

AJ's body language said it all IMHO, missed oppurtunities again and again on offense last night killed us, and the catche we did make were all at the ankle which lead to almost 0 YAC. The one long throw Schaub did have AJ had to wait on again, instead of throwing it over his shoulder and down the field to let AJ go get it..

But wait he threw for 300+ yards.. it's all good right?

Norg
11-24-2009, 12:05 PM
u need to pay ME Dunta !!!!!!!!!

HOU-TEX
11-24-2009, 12:05 PM
AJ's body language said it all IMHO, missed oppurtunities again and again on offense last night killed us, and the catche we did make were all at the ankle which lead to almost 0 YAC. The one long throw Schaub did have AJ had to wait on again, instead of throwing it over his shoulder and down the field to let AJ go get it..

But wait he threw for 300+ yards.. it's all good right?

Like I said, our passing game with it's few flaws = least of our worries.

Big Lou
12-13-2009, 03:39 PM
Dunta just flat out sucks!!!!!!!!

So at least he changed it up this week, a 15 yarder for face mask instead of a I can't cover anything so I'll grab you Pass Interference Call.

He needs to go, if I was Rick Smith I would be such a d^^k to him I'd totally punk him. Here's how it would go.

DR: Hey Rick my agent called and said you wanted to talk to me about something.

RS: Yeh Dunta it's good to talk to you, how have you been.

DR: Good , good, I just parked my rolls, and I'm moving into my new 15,000 sq. ft. house.

RS: Well that's great, I'm glad the 10 million you made this year worked out for you, so that's what I wanted to talk to you about.

DR: Really thats great, what is there to talk about.

RS: Well remember when you wrote that "Pay me Rick!" on your cleats???

DR: Yeh, sure do, I'm real sorry about that, maybe I shouldn't ha........

RS: No, no you were right D-Rob, Bob McNair and I were talking and we really messed up. We don't know what we were thinking, I mean 23 million, that was just really not a equitable deal. You deserve a new contract, one that is fair to you.

DR: (Sniffles, Tears Streaming, choked up.) Well gee thanks Rick I'm so happy that you have decided to meet my number, I me I really want to retire a Texan.

RS: Well that's great because I can't see another team ever signing you after you play for us, so here it is, how about a 5 year supply of "Jelly of the Month Club" Gift Certificates, we'll add in a signing bonus of an American Airlines Ticket Economy Class to the city of your choice because you can take a f-ing hike you jack ass!!!!!



This guy sucks, he's either flying around horizantally out of the play or he's getting 15 yarders, or it looks like he's trying the race the guy running paralell never closing in until someone else make the tackle. Used to love ya man, now your just a jack ass.

euro-Texan
12-13-2009, 04:00 PM
The love affair is over. Put him on special teams for the remainder of the season hitting returners and trade him for a new waterboy and maybe a peanut vendor in the offseason.

Hervoyel
12-13-2009, 05:22 PM
Just one more typical week in Dunta's "break-out" season.

Wolf
12-13-2009, 05:39 PM
Just one more typical week in Dunta's "break-out" season.

:lol:

imatexan
12-13-2009, 08:26 PM
Did anyone see the facemask call on TV or a replay?

It seemed live/stadium replay that dunta did not grab his facemask.

m5kwatts
12-13-2009, 08:43 PM
Has anyone noticed this stat for Dunta...


0 Interceptions on the season


Franchise corner? No.

Hagar
12-13-2009, 10:04 PM
There miss tackles where Dunta just whiffed by the ball carrier. Dunta's coverage ability has always been suspect and this year itís been down right horrible, but he's always been pretty good tackler. While I'm not pleased with his play this year, I have to think that Dunta is still suffering from last years injury either physically or mentally.

TheIronDuke
12-13-2009, 10:11 PM
Dunta has to be kicking himself for turning down that multi-year offer. You'd think that the moron would be going balls-out to try to earn a good contract, or at least look good to a new potential suitor but no. Dunta is just a piece of crap CB. Glad we could go ahead and know this now. No INT's, sucks in tackling, just a complete piece of garbage and throw in clubhouse cancer to boot.

If only Dunta and Kris/Chris Brown can find their way onto another team in the AFC South's roster...

wolf123
12-13-2009, 10:45 PM
Dunta has to be kicking himself for turning down that multi-year offer. You'd think that the moron would be going balls-out to try to earn a good contract, or at least look good to a new potential suitor but no. Dunta is just a piece of crap CB. Glad we could go ahead and know this now. No INT's, sucks in tackling, just a complete piece of garbage and throw in clubhouse cancer to boot.

If only Dunta and Kris/Chris Brown can find their way onto another team in the AFC South's roster...

He will probably still get paid. He's the top rated cornerback to hit the market and those get mega dollars. However his play had been so bad, me and my uncle were debateing wheter he realizes it or not.

TexCanada
12-14-2009, 12:18 AM
Quin looks really solid, so with him, Reeves and also McCain starting to play a bit better, Dunta will surely find himself on the outside looking in next year.

utahmark
12-14-2009, 12:25 AM
Has anyone noticed this stat for Dunta...


0 Interceptions on the season


Franchise corner? No.

sometimes that could be a sign that they are not throwing his way. but in this case it's not. they are throwing his way.

Corrosion
12-14-2009, 03:22 AM
sometimes that could be a sign that they are not throwing his way. but in this case it's not. they are throwing his way and he's givin up the real estate in big chunks.

:roast:

He's starting to remind me of P-Burnt in coverage ....

The Third Man
12-14-2009, 03:38 AM
Just thank the Lord he didn't accept Smith's contract offer!

BigWig
12-14-2009, 08:00 AM
Did you see the way he tackled during the seattle game?
Wait that should be tried to tackle, all he did is dive at the feet and then stepped out of the way when seattle was moving the ball on a long forsett run.
Worthless IMHO!

El Tejano
12-14-2009, 08:03 AM
sometimes that could be a sign that they are not throwing his way. but in this case it's not. they are throwing his way.

Vince dedicated a whole TD drive to Dunta in our MNF game.

I live in Austin, so I could only hear the game on radio. Boy, if you didn't hear nothing but great things from Quin - "pass intended for _____. Broken up by Quin" "_______ couldn't haul it in as Quin was covering him tightly." Etc........

bckey
12-14-2009, 08:15 AM
We should have never given him franchise money after he held out all of preseason. Rick should have pulled the offer off the table like some of us suggested. Let him walk and take up a roster spot elsewhere. We could have used his money to pay Benson. He never should have been franchised in the first place. What a chump.


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Corrosion
12-14-2009, 08:19 AM
Vince dedicated a whole TD drive to Dunta in our MNF game.

I live in Austin, so I could only hear the game on radio. Boy, if you didn't hear nothing but great things from Quin - "pass intended for _____. Broken up by Quin" "_______ couldn't haul it in as Quin was covering him tightly." Etc........

Quin has been a solid player - good find. He's tryin to secure a job rather than send the GM messages on his shoes .... Those guy's drafted later in the draft always seem to play with a chip on their shoulders ....

BigWig
12-14-2009, 01:01 PM
I really hope we get him to sit for awhile maybe he will snap and play like he is supposed to.

FirstTexansFan
12-14-2009, 01:19 PM
I really hope we get him to sit for awhile maybe he will snap and play like he is supposed to.

I made the comment in the game day thread that I felt he was intentionally tanking it, only to be called "harsh". I don't rescind that statement, imo, he's purposely doing this to keep Rick Smith from tagging him again next year.

Goldensilence
12-14-2009, 01:27 PM
I made the comment in the game day thread that I felt he was intentionally tanking it, only to be called "harsh". I don't rescind that statement, imo, he's purposely doing this to keep Rick Smith from tagging him again next year.

I'd be inclined t oagree, but if he's doing so he's costing himself the big long term contract he wanted. That or he knows he just yoinked 10 mil from the FO and really doesn't care at this point about anything long term.

HOU-TEX
12-14-2009, 01:30 PM
I made the comment in the game day thread that I felt he was intentionally tanking it, only to be called "harsh". I don't rescind that statement, imo, he's purposely doing this to keep Rick Smith from tagging him again next year.

If this were the case he'd be sabotaging his own career. Any player that's in a contract year would be playing at his absolute best right now to set himself up for a lucrative contract by his current team, or a team looking to grab him via FA.

IMO, he's just not the player he once was before his injury. Having to grab/interfere with WRs in order to not get burned reeks of loss of speed and agility. I'm not sure what's up with his poor tackling this year. Maybe he's just skeered cuz he might get hurt again. Meh...:shrug:

TheRealJoker
12-14-2009, 01:40 PM
In the postgame quotes Dunta decided to take a jab at Pollard's speed on the INT TD RETURN that Pollard made:

(on S Bernard Pollard's speed) "I've been picking on him about that all day. I told him the fullback almost caught him from behind. He's going to have to hit that sand pit in the offseason."

It seems to me that Dunta is all too eager to comment on other players flaws. We don't see anyone else making fun of the supposed franchise CB who cannot get an INT or make it through a single game without a PI penalty or in yesterday's case a facemask. Comment on your own game Dunta, leave the playmakers like Pollard alone so they can continue doing what you were paid $9 million to do which is make plays.

Big Lou
12-14-2009, 01:42 PM
There miss tackles where Dunta just whiffed by the ball carrier. Dunta's coverage ability has always been suspect and this year itís been down right horrible, but he's always been pretty good tackler. While I'm not pleased with his play this year, I have to think that Dunta is still suffering from last years injury either physically or mentally.

Yeh I know he's gonna whiff when I see the "Incredible Flying Dunta:. We you see him completely horizontal I know he's gonna miss, he's good for one a game along with a 15 yarder.

GQ is gonna be the number one CB on this team next year if he doesn't pull a Bennett.

Goatcheese
12-14-2009, 02:04 PM
sometimes that could be a sign that they are not throwing his way. but in this case it's not. they are throwing his way.

Actually he's one of the least thrown at corners in the league, being targeted roughly 12% of passing plays he's on the field. He just has bellow average ball awareness so opponents are completing over 60% of their passes against him, for a completion on roughly 7.5% of passing plays in coverage, which is somewhere around 15th.

D-Rob does a lot of things poorly(public relations, self evaluation, contract negotiations, tackling, catching, not writing on his shoes, etc.), but coverage isn't one of them.

Scooter
12-14-2009, 02:14 PM
Yeh I know he's gonna whiff when I see the "Incredible Flying Dunta:. We you see him completely horizontal I know he's gonna miss, he's good for one a game along with a 15 yarder.

GQ is gonna be the number one CB on this team next year if he doesn't pull a Bennett.

that worries the heck out of me. what's with our cornerbacks having outstanding rookie seasons and then falling off entirely? dunta basically did it. bennett always talked about how much he was learning from dunta, but it seems that also went on to include effort and tackling ability. this is only his third season so it's possible bennett's career isnt all but over, but it's getting pretty close. if bennett manages to "figure it out" and return to form this offseason (maybe by getting dunta out of the picture), along with quinn progressing, we'd have a pretty solid unit with those two and reeves. not that i'm in anyway confident it'll happen, but it's nice to dream.

Texanmike02
12-14-2009, 02:20 PM
Quin has been a solid player - good find. He's tryin to secure a job rather than send the GM messages on his shoes .... Those guy's drafted later in the draft always seem to play with a chip on their shoulders ....

Before Quin becomes next year's Faggins, I'd like to remind everyone we saw the same kind of play out of Faggins, till everyone in the league learned he was too slow to play in space and started running verticle routes on his side.

Mike

Scooter
12-14-2009, 02:29 PM
Before Quin becomes next year's Faggins, I'd like to remind everyone we saw the same kind of play out of Faggins, till everyone in the league learned he was too slow to play in space and started running verticle routes on his side.

Mike

quinn's a step up in that aspect though as a much more physical corner, able to disrupt the route in press coverage. he's also showed pretty well this season as we've played a bit more man to man, where as petey's didnt have the skillset (neither physicallity or speed) to cover in man.

Big Lou
12-14-2009, 09:44 PM
In the postgame quotes Dunta decided to take a jab at Pollard's speed on the INT TD RETURN that Pollard made:

(on S Bernard Pollard's speed) "I've been picking on him about that all day. I told him the fullback almost caught him from behind. He's going to have to hit that sand pit in the offseason."

It seems to me that Dunta is all too eager to comment on other players flaws. We don't see anyone else making fun of the supposed franchise CB who cannot get an INT or make it through a single game without a PI penalty or in yesterday's case a facemask. Comment on your own game Dunta, leave the playmakers like Pollard alone so they can continue doing what you were paid $9 million to do which is make plays.

Dunta sure has some big ones to tease Pollard about his speed because lets just say that speed is not one of his strong suits. Here are the things he has which Dunta doesn't:



Cover Skills


Tackling Skills


Instincts


A contract that doesn't far exceed his value to the team


It's seems like it would be pretty humbling for a "Franchise Corner" (I'm using Dunta's opinion of himself) when a Strong Safety that was signed off the street several games in to the seasons has three more INT's than you.

steelbtexan
12-14-2009, 10:30 PM
Actually he's one of the least thrown at corners in the league, being targeted roughly 12% of passing plays he's on the field. He just has bellow average ball awareness so opponents are completing over 60% of their passes against him, for a completion on roughly 7.5% of passing plays in coverage, which is somewhere around 15th.

D-Rob does a lot of things poorly(public relations, self evaluation, contract negotiations, tackling, catching, not writing on his shoes, etc.), but coverage isn't one of them.

Stats are geat but 10 mil a year for a CB that I think we can both agree upon is a shel of himself. I dont think so?

Goatcheese
12-14-2009, 10:40 PM
Stats are geat but 10 mil a year for a CB that I think we can both agree upon is a shel of himself. I dont think so?

Not being worth $10,000,000 a year doesn't mean he's a bad player. He's giving up far fewer receptions and yards than he has in the past, and suddenly people think he's terrible.

imatexan
12-14-2009, 11:18 PM
Did anyone see the facemask call on TV or a replay?

It seemed live/stadium replay that dunta did not grab his facemask.

Anyone?

Anyone want to answer my question?

Or is everyone too busy hating on him?

TheIronDuke
12-14-2009, 11:30 PM
I can't believe anyone can possibly try to use any kind of stat that doesn't prove that Dunta is a complete liability on defense.

It's like someone saying that Chris Myers is somehow a good O-lineman. Oh wait, we have one of those too. :kitten:

powerfuldragon
12-14-2009, 11:35 PM
Did anyone see the facemask call on TV or a replay?

It seemed live/stadium replay that dunta did not grab his facemask.

it looked like his fingers might have brushed the face mask.

imatexan
12-14-2009, 11:47 PM
it looked like his fingers might have brushed the face mask.

Okay thanks.

powerfuldragon
12-14-2009, 11:49 PM
Okay thanks.

i didn't have the best view either though..