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tedr
11-23-2009, 10:47 PM
Fire Kubiak. Fire Shanahan. Cut Brown. They simply don't have it.

DexmanC
11-23-2009, 10:49 PM
Fire Kubiak. Fire Shanahan. Cut Brown. They simply don't have it.

Here comes the obligatory "Fire Everybody" thread. Come with some
originality please!

Pantherstang84
11-23-2009, 10:53 PM
No fire??? from me.

I am just done.

Keep Kubiak, Shanahan, Bush, janitor, whoever.

This franchise simply refuses to take the training wheels off.


Call me back when they make the playoffs.

Adios.

GNTLEWOLF
11-23-2009, 10:55 PM
I'm not done with the team, but, this is not a play-off caliber team. We need to stop kidding ourselves. This team might not make it to 8-8

Porky
11-23-2009, 10:55 PM
This team doesn't know how to finish games off, or win at the end. Look at Indy. They have been behind in the 4th qtr 4 games in a row and each time they have won. That team knows how to win games. I truly believe there is a very fine line between Indy and Houston, but they know how to win and their GD FG kicker makes kicks when it counts.

Ranger Tom
11-23-2009, 11:00 PM
Okay then done-guys. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

On second thought, let the door hit you. Really hard.

Big Lou
11-23-2009, 11:01 PM
Fire Kubiak. Fire Shanahan. Cut Brown. They simply don't have it.

You know I'm pretty pissed too, but see ya later, we don't need you. This is a solid team that needs the officials to stay the F out. There was one game this year that weren't winnable, and three that were so influenced by the officials that there should be a congressional investigation. If I still lived in Houston, I'd be following the Zebras to the airport and beating all thier asses right now.

Big Lou
11-23-2009, 11:02 PM
Okay then done-guys. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

On second thought, let the door hit you. Really hard.

Right on. All the haters can suck it. At least the Texans give effort, if you're a ****ty fan then good luck with that. Don't need you when we win again.

Dread-Head
11-23-2009, 11:03 PM
A running back stiff arms you? You grab that arm, use it as a handle and either break it or use it to slam him to the ground.

A QB runs up the middle at you? You turn your body into a missile and do your best to cripple him.

If a QB runs at you with impunity all game long you realize that you are paid a kings ransom to play a child's game for a living and decide rather you play the game for fortune or glory. If you play for fortune then you don't have a problem.

If you play for glory then you decide that you're playing that game for FREE and hit the SOB so hard that his grand children will be cursing you out decades from now because you hit him so hard that he doesn't know who he is any more. Guys who play for fortune get NOWHERE. Guys who play for glory get gold jackets, Lombardi trophies and rings. The Texans need to decide if they are mercenaries or glory hounds. Last I checked glory hounds win titles.
Just ask NBA fortune hunter Charles "Old Ringless" Barkley.

Dread-Head
11-23-2009, 11:05 PM
You know I'm pretty pissed too, but see ya later, we don't need you. This is a solid team that needs the officials to stay the F out. There was one game this year that weren't winnable, and three that were so influenced by the officials that there should be a congressional investigation. If I still lived in Houston, I'd be following the Zebras to the airport and beating all thier asses right now.

LOL! I like this guy! :bravo:

TexCanada
11-23-2009, 11:05 PM
Right on. All the haters can suck it. At least the Texans give effort, if you're a ****ty fan then good luck with that. Don't need you when we win again.

Exactly, our team left it all on the field tonight, and as choked as I am right now I will still support them. Fair-weather fans can take a hike.

TexCanada
11-23-2009, 11:07 PM
A running back stiff arms you? You grab that arm, use it as a handle and either break it or use it to slam him to the ground.

A QB runs up the middle at you? You turn your body into a missile and do your best to cripple him.

If a QB runs at you with impunity all game long you realize that you are paid a kings ransom to play a child's game for a living and decide rather you play the game for fortune or glory. If you play for fortune then you don't have a problem.

If you play for glory then you decide that you're playing that game for FREE and hit the SOB so hard that his grand children will be cursing you out decades from now because you hit him so hard that he doesn't know who he is any more. Guys who play for fortune get NOWHERE. Guys who play for glory get gold jackets, Lombardi trophies and rings. The Texans need to decide if they are mercenaries or glory hounds. Last I checked glory hounds win titles.
Just ask NBA fortune hunter Charles "Old Ringless" Barkley.

Are you really upset with our effort tonight? We didn't lose from lack of trying.

DexmanC
11-23-2009, 11:09 PM
This is still the youngest team in the NFL, with many of its key players
not yet even in their primes. I think you're quitting on them a year
too soon. I say bring everybody back next year, and watch them shine.
This year ain't over. They can still go 11-5.

Scooter
11-23-2009, 11:09 PM
i'm as close to jumping off an overpass as anyone right now, but there is no way i would suggest firing this staff. for as far as we've come in 3 and a half seasons, we WILL be that much farther as our youngest team in the NFL matures. for all the flaws, for all the poor decisions, we have built an outstanding base to build from. another coaching or management group may get more with less, but we're not done building and that's exactly what i see - building. kubiak doesnt miss fieldgoals in consecutive games, he doesnt throw a flag on an obvious non foul (horsecollar), he's not throwing the ball to player's knees all game, and he doesnt fumble in the redzone as we've done this season. i'm not willing to throw away what this group has done with next to nothing, in the hopes of trading a couple wins for a long term downturn.

our players and our coaches arent going anywhere. next season we'll still have pollard and mario and demeco and schaub and johnson and slaton and the rest as an extremely young and extremely talented group, and we'll have another offseason of insanely good drafting and accurate free agent movement to keep building. Not For Long - i plan on being a Texan for a VERY long time and i for one want 2009 to finish strong with an outside playoff chance, and each consecutive season to continue that building.

tedr
11-23-2009, 11:10 PM
You know I'm pretty pissed too, but see ya later, we don't need you. This is a solid team that needs the officials to stay the F out. There was one game this year that weren't winnable, and three that were so influenced by the officials that there should be a congressional investigation. If I still lived in Houston, I'd be following the Zebras to the airport and beating all thier asses right now.

Solid team? What are you talking about? Solid teams don't choke at the end of four games when you have a chance to tie.

Stop the whining about the officials crap. The Texans got away with a trip on Young earlier in the quarter. It goes both ways. The officials didn't lose this game- we lost the game because we couldn't stop Young on third down and our offense, which put up 34 on these guys in Nashville, scored 17 points. Anyway you look at it, that's weak.

FirstTexansFan
11-23-2009, 11:11 PM
Tonight was the 1st domino in a total collapse. No excuses, bye week to prepare, and you knew what the Titans brought to the game. Stop their running attack, win the game. As much as I detest the referee's, we continue to allow them to affect the games by keeping it close enough for it too effect it. With the Colts, and Jaguars coming up, I don't hold out much hope for this team to rebound.

Big Lou
11-23-2009, 11:13 PM
i'm as close to jumping off an overpass as anyone right now, but there is no way i would suggest firing this staff. for as far as we've come in 3 and a half seasons, we WILL be that much farther as our youngest team in the NFL matures. for all the flaws, for all the poor decisions, we have built an outstanding base to build from. another coaching or management group may get more with less, but we're not done building and that's exactly what i see - building. kubiak doesnt miss fieldgoals in consecutive games, he doesnt throw a flag on an obvious non foul (horsecollar), he's not throwing the ball to player's knees all game, and he doesnt fumble in the redzone as we've done this season. i'm not willing to throw away what this group has done with next to nothing, in the hopes of trading a couple wins for a long term downturn.

our players and our coaches arent going anywhere. next season we'll still have pollard and mario and demeco and schaub and johnson and slaton and the rest as an extremely young and extremely talented group, and we'll have another offseason of insanely good drafting and accurate free agent movement to keep building. Not For Long - i plan on being a Texan for a VERY long time and i for one want 2009 to finish strong with an outside playoff chance, and each consecutive season to continue that building.

I have started the "Cut Andre Johnson" thread because he dropped a lot of balls. I also started the "Cut Shaub" thread because he was almost picked off. Oh and I started the "Cut #56" thread because he got blocked a couple of times. Last but not least I think we should get rid of Pollard for not knocking the piss out of more people.


This team serious needs to rebuild next year.

New_Texans
11-23-2009, 11:14 PM
I really don't feel like we are running the ball enough. I mean yeah I know our running game isn't the best in the league but at the same time, it seems like we don't even give it a chance. We pass the ball so much that we don't tire the opposing defense as much as we tire our offense. In ever offensive series, we need to have at least one legit run play designed in there...I think Kyle just falls in love with the creativity the pass game can make but damn man...please, some toss plays, draws, or something ****.

Dread-Head
11-23-2009, 11:16 PM
Solid team? What are you talking about? Solid teams don't choke at the end of four games when you have a chance to tie.

Stop the whining about the officials crap. The Texans got away with a trip on Young earlier in the quarter. It goes both ways. The officials didn't lose this game- we lost the game because we couldn't stop Young on third down and our offense, which put up 34 on these guys in Nashville, scored 17 points. Anyway you look at it, that's weak.

"Horse Collar....15 Yard Penalty...1st Down!" Sorry...were we WATCHING the same game?!

CDNTexansFan
11-23-2009, 11:17 PM
The only guy I want gone ASAP is Chris Brown. The guy is big but doesn't play big at all. Instead of hitting the holes and running a defender over for a couple yards extra, he goes down like he's 195 and gets stood up or driven back every damn time.

I'd rather the goal line carries go to Slaton/Moats, at least they hit the hole with enough speed to make a guy miss. Brown is running right into them with no power and going straight to the ground everytime.

GuerillaBlack
11-23-2009, 11:20 PM
This is still the youngest team in the NFL, with many of its key players
not yet even in their primes. I think you're quitting on them a year
too soon. I say bring everybody back next year, and watch them shine.
This year ain't over. They can still go 11-5.

I think we can beat Indy. I think this game is the game that may kick some fire in these boys. They had it, but our kicker sucks major ass. MAJOR! I say 9-7 or 10-6 and miss the playoffs. We aren't going 8-8.

Showtime100
11-23-2009, 11:27 PM
Bye tedr. Why the announcement? Just beat it.

hradhak
11-23-2009, 11:34 PM
I for one am not done with this team. I never will be. Unless they pick up and move to Tennessee. I think that this team doesn't have is the ability to pull out a win. We just can't win close games. We have to beat the team by 2 scores going into the last 6 minutes of a game. I can't imagine a team being able to win in the playoffs if they can only win in that situation.

I think we have the components to build a playoff team, we just lack the ability to make our own luck.

Hoss
11-23-2009, 11:34 PM
"Horse Collar....15 Yard Penalty...1st Down!" Sorry...were we WATCHING the same game?!

that was a bull**** call.....

GuerillaBlack
11-23-2009, 11:36 PM
Oh, and I officially hate Jon Gruden now. Anyone notice how on the "horsecollar" call, Mike and Jaws were saying what a bad call it was, but he had to say that it was such a great play. Yeah right. We had Chris Johnson stopped on that play.

TD
11-23-2009, 11:37 PM
Oh, and I officially hate Jon Gruden now. Anyone notice how on the "horsecollar" call, Mike and Jaws were saying what a bad call it was, but he had to say that it was such a great play. Yeah right. We had Chris Johnson stopped on that play.

Pretty sure Gruden meant great defensive play. He was agreeing it was a bad call.

Showtime100
11-23-2009, 11:41 PM
Oh, and I officially hate Jon Gruden now. Anyone notice how on the "horsecollar" call, Mike and Jaws were saying what a bad call it was, but he had to say that it was such a great play. Yeah right. We had Chris Johnson stopped on that play.

Or the "tripping" on VY. Sorry, my memory sucks right now and I can't remember the tripper, but you would have thought he pulled a knife on VY. BTW, I still say it wasn't intentional, well, mostly....lol. If the situation were the other way Gruden would have said it was one of those things Pro's do and he got away with it.

Hoss
11-23-2009, 11:46 PM
ya i think gruden was the one talking about his dreds being so long.That he wouldve had to gone under neith his hair.

toronto
11-23-2009, 11:47 PM
fire kubiak. Fire shanahan. Cut brown. They simply don't have it.

lol.

spek
11-23-2009, 11:49 PM
Right on. All the haters can suck it. At least the Texans give effort, if you're a ****ty fan then good luck with that. Don't need you when we win again.

Dude what ever, Texans should have won this game plan and simple, u would think to have 2 freakin weeks to prepare for the this game they would have figured out that u should spy VY. Just disgusting, i think i saw 1 play where VY got legitimate pressure, more stupid penalties and dont even blame the refs cause there should have been a trippin call against houston.

DR played horrible,
Bo Scaiffe was open all night,
K. Brown has lost it,
Was Moats hurt or inactive, that would have been a nice change of pace,
To many passes and not enough runs, you need actual runs to make the play action successful,
No real pressure on VY,
On options why are all 3 linbackers respondin, leave one spying on the opposite side,
Shaub threw alot of bad passes,
where in the ____ is MW, it would be nice if he showed up, dline as a hole was horrible agaisnt the pass and gettin pressure,

I will be cancelling my Sunday ticket, I am still a Texans fan and will be for life but the money I shell out to watch the Texans is not worth the product they put out on the field right now.

Dread-Head
11-23-2009, 11:52 PM
Or the "tripping" on VY. Sorry, my memory sucks right now and I can't remember the tripper, but you would have thought he pulled a knife on VY. BTW, I still say it wasn't intentional, well, mostly....lol. If the situation were the other way Gruden would have said it was one of those things Pro's do and he got away with it.


Agreed. That "tripping" looked incidental to me and apparently the officials got ONE right. Although that shot to the head that he took wasn't really called for...and I REALLY don't like the guy but can admit that.

TexanBacker93
11-24-2009, 01:53 AM
I say we need to fire the guy I got my beer from in the 3rd quarter (not the first beer, the second one). It was definitely not filled to the brim. There was room for another bit. You know who you are, too. I'm watching you.

Brisco_County
11-24-2009, 02:19 AM
No tedr! Don't go! Please!

:panic:

Ryan
11-24-2009, 02:25 AM
Damn, you were such a quality contributor to our board too :(

Brisco_County
11-24-2009, 02:29 AM
11/24/2009. The day we lost tedr.

DAMN YOU TEXANS!!!!1!

powerfuldragon
11-24-2009, 02:33 AM
Fire Kubiak. Fire Shanahan. Cut Brown. They simply don't have it.

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Norg
11-24-2009, 03:18 AM
i support the fire of kubes ONLY if we know we can get

Shanhann or Cower

if we know we can get them i would say FIRE KUBES RIGHT NOW !!!!!!!!!

tedr
11-24-2009, 06:34 AM
I was ticked last night and I posted right after the game. The fact is I'll continue to cheer for the Texans like I always do. It's just a game- no need for my doom and gloom. I've never started a thread like this before, and I plan not to again. Just got caught up in the heat of the moment. You guys are right- this team will eventually be successful, and I plan to be there when they do. Sorry you had to read my drivel.

Brisco_County
11-24-2009, 07:26 AM
That was quick.

Pantherstang84
11-24-2009, 07:37 AM
Oh, and I officially hate Jon Gruden now. Anyone notice how on the "horsecollar" call, Mike and Jaws were saying what a bad call it was, but he had to say that it was such a great play. Yeah right. We had Chris Johnson stopped on that play.

Funny he just may be the Texans coach next year.

HJam72
11-24-2009, 08:10 AM
I'm not really upset with "the team." What upsets me is, although I have nothing against Mario, we really did draft the wrong guy. He might be clueless and he might not be a "real QB," but VY would have won us SBs. It pains me to say that for quite a few reasons, but it has become painfully obvious. When Manning is through ruling our division, VY will do it. I'm just as guilty as anyone not thinking VY would make it in the pros, but I see that Casserly screwed us over one last time.

Don't get me wrong. Williams will be every bit as good at his position, but he doesn't play QB and is therefore not as important.

VY doesn't impress me, actually. I see him as a jock, if ya know what I mean. I've explained it before--recently, in fact. I'm more impressed with your average Joe--seriously. BUT, he will win and win and irritate the Hell out of anyone with half a brain, because those with a wise conscience hate this kind of thing. It's like one of those Psalms about how a fool's success burns the soul of....whatever--you get the picture. Long story short, VY will be the final death of my interest in sports....if the refs don't kill it first.

MannyFresh
11-24-2009, 09:16 AM
This team needs ICE in their veins...not tap water.

TexansBlood
11-24-2009, 09:56 AM
It's so sad to see us fans putting more effort and support for our Texans than the players themselves....Us Houstonians have been cursed:gun:

Texan_Bill
11-24-2009, 10:05 AM
Don't let the door hitcha
Where the Good Lord splitcha!!

StarStruck
11-24-2009, 10:27 AM
Sorry, but Vince Young scares me. You can call him any negative name under the sun, but I just couldn't see him walking out of Reliant Stadium without a win unless we were up at least two touchdowns with a minute left in the game. Thank goodness for the delay of game penalty, and thank goodness Vince seemed angry and temporarily lost focus because of the previous play when he fumbled. Kris Brown should not have missed that or those field goals, but the way Vince plays, it could have only delayed the inevitable.

The Texans will always be the team that I will support over the Titans, perhaps it's the USC flashbacks and his first game in Reliant, but the thought of VY on a mission is scary, especially when it involves somethink near and dear to me.

After seeing how things played out and the intensity of last night, a true rivalry should have been born.

HOU-TEX
11-24-2009, 10:28 AM
Don't let the door hitcha
Where the Good Lord splitcha!!

Amen, muh brutha from anutha mutha

sportfan73
11-24-2009, 10:49 AM
I'm not done with the team, but, this is not a play-off caliber team. We need to stop kidding ourselves. This team might not make it to 8-8

def. false from a talent standpoint

Mailman
11-24-2009, 10:56 AM
Vince is soooooo great he used his magical winning powers to put a trance on Dunta Robinson so Dunta would drop an easy interception on a terrible pass, and then when that wasn't enough, he used his super dooper magical winning powers to make Kris Brown miss not one but TWO FG attempts.

Yeah, Vince just wins.

Double Barrel
11-24-2009, 10:57 AM
We are a fanbase conditioned for .500.

Be that as it may be, this is the only pro football team in Houston. I cannot betray my city and I'm an NFL fan, so I'm stuck with this crap for the long haul, fairweather fans/.500 football and all.

Such is life.

*sigh*

toronto
11-24-2009, 11:06 AM
We are a fanbase conditioned for .500.

Be that as it may be, this is the only pro football team in Houston. I cannot betray my city and I'm an NFL fan, so I'm stuck with this crap for the long haul, fairweather fans/.500 football and all.

Such is life.

*sigh*

The exact words I used when my team started 0-6. :(

Vinny
11-24-2009, 12:55 PM
Yeah, Vince just wins.he has a better record than Kubiak

Norg
11-24-2009, 01:00 PM
" we shall never give up we shall never surrender"

Sal Rosenberg
11-25-2009, 06:41 PM
Fire Kubiak. Fire Shanahan. Cut Brown. They simply don't have it.

BYE BYE ! Take care ...and do not come back:fans:

Joe Texan
11-25-2009, 06:55 PM
I will tell you right to your faces if you quitting on this team the take your quitting loser arse and get out.

You want a fight you got one. I am Joe Texan and I stand Tall win or lose Period. We have problems but we are not the Cleveland Browns (thanks Bob)
or a number of other franchises that look a hell of a lot worse off than us.
Our Team played as hard as they could play Monday night. Roof was Open and a 50 yard kick equals about a 50% makeability. We got issues but we will get through these so called issues with or without you. So do not let the door hit you where the good lord split you we got some Colts to beat.

Buffi2
11-25-2009, 07:10 PM
I will tell you right to your faces if you quitting on this team the take your quitting loser arse and get out.

You want a fight you got one. I am Joe Texan and I stand Tall win or lose Period. We have problems but we are not the Cleveland Browns (thanks Bob)
or a number of other franchises that look a hell of a lot worse off than us.
Our Team played as hard as they could play Monday night. Roof was Open and a 50 yard kick equals about a 50% makeability. We got issues but we will get through these so called issues with or without you. So do not let the door hit you where the good lord split you we got some Colts to beat.

:goodpost: rep your way Couldn't have said it better myself. Someday we will all look back on this and maybe not laugh, but perhaps a little smile. We may be losing, but we are better than we were and we will be even better next year as our players grow up a bit and we add a few missing pieces. Signed, Little Mary Sunshine

Thorn
11-25-2009, 07:14 PM
The Texans are from Houston. They are our pro football team. Therefore I support them. Doesn't mean i won't get pissed at them from time to time, but they are my team.

MY TEAM. THE HOUSTON TEXANS ARE MY TEAM.

So were the Oilers when they were crap and ****head Adams was important. Seldom do I agree with Joe Texan on anything, but on this one, he and I are one.

They'll piss me off, I'll *****, I'll hate them for a bit, but they are my team. It's just the way it is.

GNTLEWOLF
11-25-2009, 07:20 PM
def. false from a talent standpoint

Really?!! you think we have play-off talent defensive Backs, Defensive line or Offensive line? I don't see that. It looks to me like the interior of our O-line is mediocre at best. We have a patchwork DB's ( non of whom are pro-bowl caliber) and a d-line that has never been dominant. Where are we hiding all this talent? Oh and lets not even mention that we have not had a running game at all this year. I would love to see this talent that can take us to the play-offs. It just isn't there. And don't tell me they have potential, because that opens another can of worms as in they aren't performing up to their potential.

Trail.Blazr
11-26-2009, 07:51 AM
"Horse Collar....15 Yard Penalty...1st Down!" Sorry...were we WATCHING the same game?!

I also saw Crumpler's very evident catch via review. Bad calls went both ways. That's part of the game, like it or not. We know this.

I had all my buds asking if Houston would win for their picks, and I said I hope so, but I wouldn't bet on it. Tennessee, a team we should have lost to in week 2 that had, IMHO, less talent overall, is/was and will remain a better coached team so long as Fisher and Kub's remain.

Our biggest asset to bringing us into what was a very hopeful season this year is also our biggest obstacle in making it to the next level. Kubs has definitely brought this team from obscurity, but I think we have seen his ceiling. Being a young team is a real good notion to hang your hat on when looking to the future, so long as you have a coach with the ability to compensate for their inexperience, but unlike Caldwell, Kubiak doesn't have the luxury of a player who can effectively manage the game that compensates for the mistake a 2nd tier HC will make. This team will need a HC that is better suited for young talent, Talent we still need more of.

I'm not done with the team.. Never will be.

DexmanC
11-26-2009, 12:26 PM
I'll make note of this thread, and remind the OP of his words the
next time he says A FREAKING WORD about this team. Who needs
ya? It was said best: "Don't let the door hitcha, where the Good Lord
SPLITCHA!!!"

tedr
11-26-2009, 03:00 PM
I was ticked last night and I posted right after the game. The fact is I'll continue to cheer for the Texans like I always do. It's just a game- no need for my doom and gloom. I've never started a thread like this before, and I plan not to again. Just got caught up in the heat of the moment. You guys are right- this team will eventually be successful, and I plan to be there when they do. Sorry you had to read my drivel.

I am the poster who began this thread. I am also the one who posted the above message later on in the thread the next morning. The fact is, as I said above, I posted right after the game (which was a mistake).

I will continue to cheer for and watch the Texans. My frustration was no different, I imagine, from what a lot of people have felt over the years. Also, I have read other posts on this board the last few years with similar sentiments. I say this not to get back in anyone's good graces, but to set the record straight. I'm sure that everyone on here has done something they'd like to take back. If not, good for you. As an imperfect person, I make mistakes- I try to own up to those, which I think I've done.

Meanwhile, as mentioned before, I will continue to cheer for the Texans. I feel they will eventually get things right, and as a fan since inception and a Houston football fan since the mid-70s I have a real interest in them doing so.

Finally, again, I was wrong to post right after the game. I have learned my lesson, and will not be doing it again. I hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving.

houstonspartan
11-26-2009, 11:58 PM
I am the poster who began this thread. I am also the one who posted the above message later on in the thread the next morning. The fact is, as I said above, I posted right after the game (which was a mistake).

I will continue to cheer for and watch the Texans. My frustration was no different, I imagine, from what a lot of people have felt over the years. Also, I have read other posts on this board the last few years with similar sentiments. I say this not to get back in anyone's good graces, but to set the record straight. I'm sure that everyone on here has done something they'd like to take back. If not, good for you. As an imperfect person, I make mistakes- I try to own up to those, which I think I've done.

Meanwhile, as mentioned before, I will continue to cheer for the Texans. I feel they will eventually get things right, and as a fan since inception and a Houston football fan since the mid-70s I have a real interest in them doing so.

Finally, again, I was wrong to post right after the game. I have learned my lesson, and will not be doing it again. I hope everyone has a Happy Thanksgiving.


Well, that's great, but, don't apologize for your raw emotions right after the game. We were all devastated, and likely said, and possibly did, things we wouldn't normally ever do.

I'm a season ticket holder, and was so stunned and depressed that I nearly tore my Indy game tickets in half.

I'm not one of those "you must always be positive and happy, no matter what" kinds of fans. When the Texans win, I'm happy. When they don't, I'm not. That's normal. I don't think we should be expected to smile through a loss, especially not one like Monday.

You were upset and angry, and needed to vent. It's all good.