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dalemurphy
11-08-2009, 07:34 PM
I'm incredibly frustrated with the result. I thought Schaub, the Oline, the playcalling were all bad. I thought the referees were ridiculous. All of that has been and will be talked about. However.........

Man, the defense was awesome!! You wouldn't know they were playing well listenning to Solomon Wilcox but they were excellent. Manning was frustrated. The WRs were sore. They had no running game. NObody can convert on these guys when it's short yardage. I just couldn't be happier with the play of the defense. By the way, Dallas Clark is a pansy! He slid down in the middle of the field to avoid contact at least 5 times... pretty embarrassing for a 250 lb TE!

Hervoyel
11-08-2009, 07:39 PM
Our defense was the only reason this wasn't one of those 42-10 beat downs from years past. They come to play (I exempt Dunta Robinson from any compliment I give this team. He's stealing 9 million dollars while trying not to get hurt out there and it's starting to show).

stingray
11-08-2009, 07:39 PM
People laughed at me a month ago when I said they were improving.

Carr Bombed
11-08-2009, 07:40 PM
Man, the defense was awesome!! You wouldn't know they were playing well listenning to Solomon Wilcox but they were excellent. Manning was frustrated. The WRs were sore. They had no running game. NObody can convert on these guys when it's short yardage. I just couldn't be happier with the play of the defense.

But but but.......they're the "same ole texans" :rolleyes:

Sorry, but a young defense will take you places....we're building a squad that's starting to have a nasty streak and a swagger and Cushing has ALOT to do with that (this kid better be DROY).

Lock up DeMeco, sign Pollard, and let these young corners (Quinn) grow.......however give Dunta his walking papers and tell him to take his broken ass game down the road. He is not a good starting corner anymore.

This team just needs a center and a power running game to compliment their clutch receiving weapons and then all these close losses will start going our way.

Carr Bombed
11-08-2009, 07:41 PM
People laughed at me a month ago when I said they were improving.

I'm sorry.....:)

You were right and I'm sorry.

stingray
11-08-2009, 07:45 PM
I'm sorry.....:)

You were right and I'm sorry.

Well, Thanks.....I'm wrong many times also... I was dead wrong about Matt getting hurt by midseason. Cross my fingers in the next half.....

Wolf
11-08-2009, 07:47 PM
it was a bend but don't break today

mariowillshine15
11-08-2009, 07:48 PM
Antonio Smith is really starting to impress. He collapsed the pocket a few times and had a strip sack. The guy is making the plays to earn that big payday he got.

Carr Bombed
11-08-2009, 07:51 PM
it was a bend but don't break today

(While I don't agree it was just "bend, but don't break") against INDY, that's damn good defense... How many defenses do you see "manhandle" them? You hold them to 20 points and force timely T.O.'s (especially when your offense keeps you on the field the entire 1st half) and you did a hell of a job.

jppaul
11-08-2009, 07:53 PM
It was very impressive once we got our bearings, those first couple drives they really had an element of surprise that had us back on our heels.

I have an absolute man crush on this defense, we just crunch people all over the field, it is spectacular.

Even Wilson was getting in the act, it was a penalty but whatever, and Pollard was just laying the wood all over the field.

I think I am going to change Pollard's name from bone crusher to captain crunch

dalemurphy
11-08-2009, 07:55 PM
But but but.......they're the "same ole texans" :rolleyes:

Sorry, but a young defense will take you places....we're building a squad that's starting to have a nasty streak and a swagger and Cushing has ALOT to do with that (this kid better be DROY).

Lock up DeMeco, sign Pollard, and let these young corners (Quinn) grow.......however give Dunta his walking papers and tell him to take his broken ass game down the road. He is not a good starting corner anymore.

This team just needs a center and a power running game to compliment their clutch receiving weapons and then all these close losses will start going our way.


At Indy is probably the toughest place in the NFL to play football because of their offense and the speed of the defense, especially those two DEs. I thought we'd have to win the turnover battle, dominate on special teams, and run the ball well to have a decent shot at the game. I didn't realize how good this defense has become. We lost the turnover battle, played poorly on special teams, were handcuffed by horrible officiating and some bad luck, and still should've been in OT.

The reality is that the organization has spent the past 3 seasons trying to upgrade the defensive talent and athleticism. Much fewer draft picks and dollars have been spent on offense. It's a good offense but is missing some pieces to be great. More energy will be put into upgrading the offense this off-season. Cheer up. No team in the NFL goes into Indy with a good chance to win. Since the defense got healthy and got on the same page, we've lost two heartbreakers at Arizona and at Indy... I think we'll take care of business versus Tennessee and I think they will steamroll Indy the week after.

buddyboy
11-08-2009, 08:08 PM
Might not belong in here per se, but here's an interesting tidbit from the ESPN recap on the Indy-Houston game:

Then after forcing a rare three-and-out, Matt Schaub moved Houston into scoring position again only to see Brown push his field goal attempt to the left, leaving some teammates sprawled on the field in disbelief.

Don't we lead the league or something in forcing three-and-outs???

AnthonyE
11-08-2009, 08:10 PM
Might not belong in here per se, but here's an interesting tidbit from the ESPN recap on the Indy-Houston game:



Don't we lead the league or something in forcing three-and-outs???

Maybe a rare three and out for indy.

TheRealJoker
11-08-2009, 08:28 PM
For the first time in franchise history i'm confident this defense is a genuinely GOOD defense. We've still got our warts sure, but we can actually stop the run (who would've thought we could say this after the first 3 games?), we can pressure the QB, and every so often we can defend the pass AND force turnovers!!!

I cant wait for the day when I can say that "insert unit here" plays at a high level for the whole game much less our whole team. When we can say that, AJ will be lifting the Lombardi trophy over his head.

Fox
11-08-2009, 08:39 PM
Loving the additions of A. Smith, Cushing, Quin, and particularly Pollard. Those guys don't mess around.

DexmanC
11-08-2009, 08:47 PM
I was following the Colts board as the game was going on, and one guy
said this is the most "PHYSICAL" Texans team he's ever seen. Our defense
figures an offense out in 2 or 3 series, and our offense struggles for an
entire half. The offense is the achilles heel of this team now, whereas last
year, it was the Defense.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Dale, glad you are looking at positive side of the Texans while dealing difficult and frustrated time with the result. I too liked what I saw from our D. Without our D, we could easily blown out from the game.

I am very dispointed and frustrated like many of guys here. Since we are already frustrated from the game, I do not wish to bring too much of negative feeling to this board. So, I am glad to see a thread that is looking at positive side of the Texans. Thank you.

Go Texans!!!

DexmanC
11-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Did you guys hear Demeco taunting Peyton at the line of scrimmage on
the 3rd and a Million play? I like that from our defense. The Texans will
be fine.

Silver Oak
11-08-2009, 08:51 PM
let check the archives and count the idiots who wanted to break out the pink soap avatars over Frank Bush.

I think double digits is a fair bet.

DexmanC
11-08-2009, 08:52 PM
Demeco was screamin before the snap on 3rd and a million:

"GET IT RIGHT, PEYTON!! GET IT RIGHT, PEYTON!!

Pollardized
11-08-2009, 08:58 PM
Didi you guys notice Pollard laying the lumber today? He really brings a hard hitting style of play that has ignited Cushing to do the same. The first few games Cushing looked hesitant, now he is an aggresive beast. I really think he is following Pollard's lead. It's kid of funny, we were looking at the article and comments on Pollard before the game, KC fans say he has no cover skills. Then today he gets 2 picks. Sweet.

DexmanC
11-08-2009, 09:01 PM
Didi you guys notice Pollard laying the lumber today? He really brings a hard hitting style of play that has ignited Cushing to do the same. The first few games Cushing looked hesitant, now he is an aggresive beast. I really think he is following Pollard's lead. It's kid of funny, we were looking at the article and comments on Pollard before the game, KC fans say he has no cover skills. Then today he gets 2 picks. Sweet.

And those were "ballhawk-like" picks. No tipped balls.

dalemurphy
11-08-2009, 09:23 PM
What if we run the table: 12-4!

for the first time ever, that is a silly thought only because of statistical probability. The reality is, from this point on, this team will have to underperform to lose a game before January of 2010. WOW!

hradhak
11-08-2009, 10:20 PM
I agree that our defense is finally good. It is good enough to keep us in games and hold good teams to < 100 yards rushing. I worry though that without a good pass rush we won't become an elite defense like the Steelers or the Ravens of yore. I really hope that Barwin comes into the player he is supposed to be and that Okoye can start pulling more of his weight (although I feel like he has improved from last year). I think we are getting to be dangerous as a defense though. 2 INTs is nothing to sneeze at in Indy. If we could only lay Manning on his ass like the Steelers seem to do so easily, we would really shutdown the Colts D.

TexansFanatic
11-08-2009, 10:34 PM
What if we run the table: 12-4!

for the first time ever, that is a silly thought only because of statistical probability. The reality is, from this point on, this team will have to underperform to lose a game before January of 2010. WOW!

I can't believe it, but that thought actually occurred to me today.

I remember when the Oilers started the season 1-4 and wound up 12-4.

The Texans are now 5-4, but they could put a string together.

They could beat the Titans, Colts, Jaguars, Seahawks, Rams, Dolphins, and Patriots to finish the season 12-4.

I'm not betting on it, but 10-6 or 11-5 looks very doable right now.

bckey
11-09-2009, 12:39 AM
I'm incredibly frustrated with the result. I thought Schaub, the Oline, the playcalling were all bad. I thought the referees were ridiculous. All of that has been and will be talked about. However.........

Man, the defense was awesome!! You wouldn't know they were playing well listenning to Solomon Wilcox but they were excellent. Manning was frustrated. The WRs were sore. They had no running game. NObody can convert on these guys when it's short yardage. I just couldn't be happier with the play of the defense. By the way, Dallas Clark is a pansy! He slid down in the middle of the field to avoid contact at least 5 times... pretty embarrassing for a 250 lb TE!

I keep getting blasted for saying this. The defense played their a$$es off today. The offense put them out on the field for most of the 1st half and they still kept us in the game. Coaching and Schaub blew this one.

And Dale. I was telling my son throughout the game that Clark, Addai and Wayne all slide to the ground to avoid getting hit. It is more than obvious.

dalemurphy
11-09-2009, 12:49 AM
I keep getting blasted for saying this. The defense played their a$$es off today. The offense put them out on the field for most of the 1st half and they still kept us in the game. Coaching and Schaub blew this one.

And Dale. I was telling my son throughout the game that Clark, Addai and Wayne all slide to the ground to avoid getting hit. It is more than obvious.

I get Reggie Wayne doing it. But, for a TE to constantly do it... sometimes to avoid being hit by a CB, is obnoxious. I guess it impacts the officials, though, since they see a need to protect him against big, bad Eugene Wilson and his shoulder of death!

Regarding Schaub and the offense, I thought the offensive game plan was poor... or, the playcalling was. The stage may have been to big for baby Shanny. I think you gotta start that game pounding power running plays at the edges. Freeney and Mathis need to eat turf and get leaned and landed on early. Instead, there were too many dropbacks and unimaginative zone runs, with only that one misdirection reverse.

I'll say this, though. The defensive coaching staff came to win. And, I don't think I've seen Kubiak as intense and determined on the sideline... ever! Unfortunately, his intensity didn't sway the officials or shock Schaub into a good game. Oh well, I guess 10 or 11 wins and the wild card will have to do this season. January Road Trip!!!

powerfuldragon
11-09-2009, 12:55 AM
i like this thread.

someone please rep dale on my behalf. apparently i repped him too recently.

ObsiWan
11-09-2009, 06:21 AM
I can't believe it, but that thought actually occurred to me today.

I remember when the Oilers started the season 1-4 and wound up 12-4.

The Texans are now 5-4, but they could put a string together.

They could beat the Titans, Colts, Jaguars, Seahawks, Rams, Dolphins, and Patriots to finish the season 12-4.

I'm not betting on it, but 10-6 or 11-5 looks very doable right now.

I'm with you. As badly as I wanted us to win this one, I'm not doom & gloom. Unless Schaub goes on one of his turnover streaks we can have a double-digit win (and maybe a playoff) season.

Schaub has thrown two picks in each of the last two games and yet the defense has kept those T/Os from blossoming into mucho pts for the other guys.

Yes, the defense is doing their job. Think about how good they could be if the offense kept the ball and let them rest on the sidelines.

ObsiWan
11-09-2009, 06:22 AM
i like this thread.

someone please rep dale on my behalf. apparently i repped him too recently.

Done.

Mr. White
11-09-2009, 08:08 AM
I agree that they're light years ahead of where they were when the season started. Night and day. Love to see them play with intensity.

The only problem was that they shot themselves in the foot with all the penalties this game.

TimeKiller
11-09-2009, 08:32 AM
How about Peyton Manning seeking out the Cush after the game to shake his hand?

Even for a stud like the Cush, that has to feel nice.

dalemurphy
11-09-2009, 08:35 AM
I agree that they're light years ahead of where they were when the season started. Night and day. Love to see them play with intensity.

The only problem was that they shot themselves in the foot with all the penalties this game.

I would argue that the Texan defense wasn't the one holding the gun !
I'm going to go through the game on DVR today. I think all 3 offsides were bogus, the Cushing personal foul was a joke as well.

Mr. White
11-09-2009, 08:43 AM
I would argue that the Texan defense wasn't the one holding the gun !
I'm going to go through the game on DVR today. I think all 3 offsides were bogus, the Cushing personal foul was a joke as well.

It was one of two things...actually I think it was a combination of both.

1. The Texans D was psyched out and acted like a bunch of spazzes.

2. The referee crew had a different interpretation of neutral zone infractions, unnecessary roughness, etc. than other ref crews and were going out of their way to impose their will.

I won't argue that the game was over-officiated, but I hate blaming the refs for a loss. I'll be interested to see what your thoughts are after you watch the film.

dalemurphy
11-09-2009, 08:53 AM
It was one of two things...actually I think it was a combination of both.

1. The Texans D was psyched out and acted like a bunch of spazzes.

2. The referee crew had a different interpretation of neutral zone infractions, unnecessary roughness, etc. than other ref crews and were going out of their way to impose their will.

I won't argue that the game was over-officiated, but I hate blaming the refs for a loss. I'll be interested to see what your thoughts are after you watch the film.

The Barwin offsides was a phantom call. Two other offsides were Antonio Smith coming off the ball well and getting called for the penalty after he beats the lineman. Mathis and Freeney did the same thing all day and never were called for it. Those are reputation flags and someone needs to explain to that moronic officiating crew that this isn't the NBA.

BigBull17
11-09-2009, 08:57 AM
It was one of two things...actually I think it was a combination of both.

1. The Texans D was psyched out and acted like a bunch of spazzes.

2. The referee crew had a different interpretation of neutral zone infractions, unnecessary roughness, etc. than other ref crews and were going out of their way to impose their will.

I won't argue that the game was over-officiated, but I hate blaming the refs for a loss. I'll be interested to see what your thoughts are after you watch the film.

I don't blame the refs, but boy did they miss a few calls. I saw a few times when they went helmet to helmet and no wistle. On the last drive, they were laying on people to waste more clock. Just very tight on us, and loose on Indy. We lost the game, but they didn't help, IMO.

keyser
11-09-2009, 09:01 AM
At least one of those offsides penalties was legitimate, and in the others, we did have someone moving (though I don't know for sure if they were across the line before the snap). The refs did call the game tight, but most of those penalties were still our fault.

I agree the defense played really well later in the game, but I don't give them a complete pass. Those first few drives of the Colts were horrendous performances by our defense. I know the offense did not do much in the mean time, and was a contributor to the overall bad performance, but you've got to lay some of the blame there on our defense. The Colts had scored half of their points for the game by the time our defense seemed to finally wake up. It's as though we traded our "play poor defense the first few games of the year, then play well for the remainder" for the same thing in an individual game.

dalemurphy
11-09-2009, 09:16 AM
At least one of those offsides penalties was legitimate, and in the others, we did have someone moving (though I don't know for sure if they were across the line before the snap). The refs did call the game tight, but most of those penalties were still our fault.

I agree the defense played really well later in the game, but I don't give them a complete pass. Those first few drives of the Colts were horrendous performances by our defense. I know the offense did not do much in the mean time, and was a contributor to the overall bad performance, but you've got to lay some of the blame there on our defense. The Colts had scored half of their points for the game by the time our defense seemed to finally wake up. It's as though we traded our "play poor defense the first few games of the year, then play well for the remainder" for the same thing in an individual game.


You're nuts! That is a great offense playing at home. And, nothing for Indy was easy the entire game.

NitroGSXR
11-09-2009, 10:34 AM
You're nuts! That is a great offense playing at home. And, nothing for Indy was easy the entire game.

Absolutely. I think we're now a FA and a coach away from being uttered in the same breath as Pittsburg and Indianapolis. We have built our team. The draft should now work to supplement our team. The coach... We need a new RB coach who teaches ball protection a bit better. I'm excited and overjoyed with our progress. Tough loss but I think we're going to be playing football in January, Houston!

keyser
11-09-2009, 11:10 AM
You're nuts! That is a great offense playing at home. And, nothing for Indy was easy the entire game.

Really? I agree the Colts have a great offense, but you can't tell me the Texans' D was playing well at the beginning; there was almost no pass rush, receivers (i.e. Clark) were consistently open, etc. I really don't know how you could watch those first two drives and think the Texans were playing well. I looked it up: first drive had plays going for 3, 11, 5, 10, 10, 4 yards before the incomplete passes (and yes, I know you have to give the defense some credit on those passes). Next drive had plays for 4, 7, 11, 0, 7(penalty), 18, 2, 7, 7, 0, 7 yards. The Texans were barely speed bumps on that drive; I would say those drives were easy for Indy.

In the third drive, the defense seemed to wake up, and played well the rest of the game. But, they were fortunate to not be in a deeper hole than they were at this point.

Dread-Head
11-09-2009, 11:14 AM
The defense is finally looking good. They are having moments of weakness..but in the end they shine.

badboy
11-09-2009, 11:19 AM
But but but.......they're the "same ole texans" :rolleyes:

Sorry, but a young defense will take you places....we're building a squad that's starting to have a nasty streak and a swagger and Cushing has ALOT to do with that (this kid better be DROY).

Lock up DeMeco, sign Pollard, and let these young corners (Quinn) grow.......however give Dunta his walking papers and tell him to take his broken ass game down the road. He is not a good starting corner anymore.

This team just needs a center and a power running game to compliment their clutch receiving weapons and then all these close losses will start going our way.Is Caldwell going to be the center or will he be locked in at guard? I was hoping Myers would be moved to right guard a more natural position. I am just concerned that Caldwell is getting the reps at guard and few at center.

BigBull17
11-09-2009, 11:52 AM
Such a good defensive effort. Only a few dumb penalties and a huge missed tackle(Cody on the go ahead TD) are my only real gripes. By the end of the game, their skill position players were a little timid after the catch. Most impressive was the lack of Yards after Catch. It was mostly catch, tackle.

PHAROAH
11-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Demeco was screamin before the snap on 3rd and a million:

"GET IT RIGHT, PEYTON!! GET IT RIGHT, PEYTON!!

That was awesome to hear that our Pro Bowl MLB was taunting him but the kicker let us down.

JDizzle
11-09-2009, 12:42 PM
It was mostly catch, tackle.

Or catch / fall down.

AndreRulz
11-09-2009, 01:16 PM
I really like our defense, but I liked it better when Shaun Cody was hurt and not playing. I think Bulman will emerge even more soon. I love our LB core, Ryans has always been a beast, Cushing is a great rookie, and Diles is very underrated. Our DBs are pretty good, although Dunta isn't what he once was, Pollard has brought a huge presence to this team, Wilson is a great veteran FS, our young CBs are good and will improve. Probably the most solid defense the Texans have had as a unit.

dalemurphy
11-09-2009, 01:17 PM
I really like our defense, but I liked it better when Shaun Cody was hurt and not playing. I think Bulman will emerge even more soon. I love our LB core, Ryans has always been a beast, Cushing is a great rookie, and Diles is very underrated. Our DBs are pretty good, although Dunta isn't what he once was, Pollard has brought a huge presence to this team, Wilson is a great veteran FS, our young CBs are good and will improve. Probably the most solid defense the Texans have had as a unit.

you are master of the understatement!

AndreRulz
11-09-2009, 01:20 PM
you are master of the understatement!

ok i just think back to when we had to put up with Greenwood, CC Brown, Faggins and all those other guys.

Porky
11-09-2009, 01:37 PM
you are master of the understatement!

I don't know about that. The original 2002 squad had a pretty damn good defense. If that defense had been paired with an offense of the calibur we have now it might surpass this one, but you are right in that this is a good D.

However the comment "whole game" is incorrect. The Colts were moving the ball at will in the 1st qtr, and Clark was eating us alive. We still had a spotty pass rush at best. It looked like we made some adjustments and started jamming the receivers and they mentioned that on the broadcast as well. Not sure what other adjustments were made, but it really made a difference. In Houston we need to be playing press coverage from the start.

gtexan02
11-09-2009, 01:40 PM
Peyton had a QB rating of 83.6, his lowest of the season and 20 points lower than his season average.

Addai had 60 yards rushing.

Not a bad effort

BigBull17
11-09-2009, 02:00 PM
Or catch / fall down.

Then you have done your job. They wanted no part of our guys hitting.

Kaiser Toro
11-09-2009, 02:07 PM
I'm incredibly frustrated with the result. I thought Schaub, the Oline, the playcalling were all bad. I thought the referees were ridiculous. All of that has been and will be talked about. However.........

Man, the defense was awesome!! You wouldn't know they were playing well listenning to Solomon Wilcox but they were excellent. Manning was frustrated. The WRs were sore. They had no running game. NObody can convert on these guys when it's short yardage. I just couldn't be happier with the play of the defense. By the way, Dallas Clark is a pansy! He slid down in the middle of the field to avoid contact at least 5 times... pretty embarrassing for a 250 lb TE!

The Colts Receivers have been doing that for years. They have also had one of the best passing attacks for years. Perhaps being smart should be implemented into the Texans training. Unfortunately Simple Gary goes full retard to often during the game.

The defense grinded it out yesterday, however, much of the adversity they had to overcome was from their own doing.

The result can be spun many ways - negatively or positively, but I just can't believe how low our IQ is on this team from the staff to the players. Frustrating.

BigBull17
11-09-2009, 02:13 PM
The Colts Receivers have been doing that for years. They have also had one of the best passing attacks for years. Perhaps being smart should be implemented into the Texans training. Unfortunately Simple Gary goes full retard to often during the game.

The defense grinded it out yesterday, however, much of the adversity they had to overcome was from their own doing.

The result can be spun many ways - negatively or positively, but I just can't believe how low our IQ is on this team from the staff to the players. Frustrating.

Their recievers have been soft, which I believe cost them some play off games. I don't know how low our IQ is, but Ill take guys who go 100% every down everyday of the week. Good things happen more offten than not.

Vinnie
11-09-2009, 02:34 PM
I agree, the defense looked so much better then anything the Texans have ever fielded. They kept us in that game despite the penalties. I honestly believe if we could have had OD for that game, we win. His absense was palpable. I sure hope we get Casey back for MNF, I know no one believes he can even hold Daniels jock, but if he can bring even a little of what we lost with OD our offense doesn't look nearly as bad as yesterday.

El Tejano
11-09-2009, 04:12 PM
I've never seen the Colts have to punt so much while playing us. That was nice to see. Everyone is contributing and buying into the system and I've never seen that before.

Even Peyton said that Cushing is a great player. Translation = Cushing kept knocking me down even if he didn't sack me and I've never had that happen against the Texans.

TexCanada
11-09-2009, 05:15 PM
Our D has been playing with an attitude this year. Pollard and Cushing have changed this defense's mindset, we are hitting hard and rallying to the ball. We just need a ball-hawk FS, and a solid DT and we could be one of the best in the league.

Hooston Texan
11-09-2009, 05:18 PM
Their recievers have been soft, which I believe cost them some play off games. I don't know how low our IQ is, but Ill take guys who go 100% every down everyday of the week. Good things happen more offten than not.

He who catches and gets out of the way
Lives to catch on another play.

Clearly, some of the Colts made conscious decisions to get down after getting their yards. Wayne hasn't missed a game due to injury since his rookie year and Clark has been pretty durable, too. So there are upsides to the tactic.

Back to our defense: they took away the deep ball and made Manning play smallball for most of the game. We allowed only one play of more than 20 yards, and that one only went for 26. We played them tough in the redzone and made them earn their points. Because they have Peyton Manning, they were able to earn them; a lesser offense would have done nothing on us the way we were playing.

Nobody likes a "bend, don't break" defense, but we did it very well yesterday. On four different occasions, the defense was in a do-or-die situation (Indy's two field goals after already being down 7-0, the first Pollard pick and the 3-and-out that preceded the missed FG), and they came up aces each time.

As for whether this is our best ever defense, my answer is: by many, many, many miles. Our 2002 unit did a nice job for an expansion unit, but our opponents were running the most vanilla game plans imaginable while waiting for the inevitable implosion from our Pee Wee League offense. This defense is taking everyone's best punch because our offense (lackluster start yesterday notwithstanding) is feared instead of mocked.

Carr Bombed
11-09-2009, 05:29 PM
Clearly, some of the Colts made conscious decisions to get down after getting their yards.

ha ha ha, if I saw 265 pound Cushing and a 225 pound safety (Pollard) who hits like a freight train flying towards me, I'd want to "get down" to. :)

This is the new Texans defense........serving out snot bubbles since 2009

Pollardized
11-09-2009, 05:34 PM
ha ha ha, if I saw 265 pound Cushing and a 225 pound safety (Pollard) who hits like a freight train flying towards me, I'd want to "get down" to. :)

This is the new Texans defense........serving out snot bubbles since 2009

They didn't want to get "POLLARDIZED"

AndreRulz
11-09-2009, 05:36 PM
ha ha ha, if I saw 265 pound Cushing and a 225 pound safety (Pollard) who hits like a freight train flying towards me, I'd want to "get down" to. :)

This is the new Texans defense........serving out snot bubbles since 2009

or run away as fast as possible.

alphajoker
11-09-2009, 06:00 PM
Demeco was screamin before the snap on 3rd and a million:

"GET IT RIGHT, PEYTON!! GET IT RIGHT, PEYTON!!

I thought it was A. Smith since he got the sack and FF on the previous play...nonetheless, I thought that was bada**!

Goatcheese
11-09-2009, 06:06 PM
They played well, but I would have liked to see a little less cover 3. You end up with D-Rob and Reeves in deep zones 15-20 yards downfield against a team that was throwing everything underneath.

The Hole in the zone between D-Rob over the top and Quin/a Linebacker underneath gave up a lot of free yards yesterday(Not blaming the players for playing their assignment correctly) that wouldn't have been there against a less conservative coverage.

Cover-3 has it's place, but you have to adapt to a team that is constantly chewing you up on 10-12 yard routes.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/SchoonPK/Cover3.jpg

barrett
11-10-2009, 12:24 PM
we're good y'all.

Marcus
11-10-2009, 01:13 PM
They played well, but I would have liked to see a little less cover 3. You end up with D-Rob and Reeves in deep zones 15-20 yards downfield against a team that was throwing everything underneath.

The Hole in the zone between D-Rob over the top and Quin/a Linebacker underneath gave up a lot of free yards yesterday(Not blaming the players for playing their assignment correctly) that wouldn't have been there against a less conservative coverage.

Cover-3 has it's place, but you have to adapt to a team that is constantly chewing you up on 10-12 yard routes.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i174/SchoonPK/Cover3.jpg

Meh, I think the Cover 3 was a good strategy. It was designed to discourage Manning from going over the top. But you have to pick your poison with Manning. If you go with a more aggressive coverage, you more than likely are going to get hit with the deep ball.

You might call it "chewing you up on 10-12 yard routes". I might call it "forcing him to dink and dunk it." Increases the likelyhood of him making a mistake, or the defense making a play.