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Hookem Horns
10-27-2009, 01:25 AM
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20091026/SPORTS01/91026037/2072/SPORTS/Titans+owner+wants+Vince+Young+to+start+against+Ja guars

Following the 59-0 loss to the Patriots on Oct. 18 that dropped the Titans to 0-6, Adams told The Tennessean he’d made Coach Jeff Fisher aware of his desire to see Young play.

In the past week the 86-year-old owner has been more direct, according to sources familiar with the situation. Adams wants the change now.

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9056/fisher2t.jpg

kastofsna
10-27-2009, 10:14 AM
all hysterical Young bashing aside, he definitely needs to start. there's no point in Collins playing.

infantrycak
10-27-2009, 11:09 AM
all hysterical Young bashing aside, he definitely needs to start. there's no point in Collins playing.

It will probably happen sometime soon, but seriously how bad does Young have to present in practice/study that Fisher is this resolute on not playing him? Fisher if not on the ledge of getting fired is walking toward it and this is one of the most visible issues. He has to be pretty darn determined about Young to do this.

bah007
10-27-2009, 11:59 AM
It will probably happen sometime soon, but seriously how bad does Young have to present in practice/study that Fisher is this resolute on not playing him? Fisher if not on the ledge of getting fired is walking toward it and this is one of the most visible issues. He has to be pretty darn determined about Young to do this.

Agreed. This can't just be Fisher being stubborn. There has to be something that Young is/isn't doing that makes him so sure he shouldn't start.

On the flip side, this season is over for them. They need to get Vince out there and see what he can do so they can decide if he is their future or not. The longer they wait the less sure they will be by the time the draft comes around.

CloakNNNdagger
10-27-2009, 12:11 PM
Agreed. This can't just be Fisher being stubborn. There has to be something that Young is/isn't doing that makes him so sure he shouldn't start.

On the flip side, this season is over for them. They need to get Vince out there and see what he can do so they can decide if he is their future or not. The longer they wait the less sure they will be by the time the draft comes around.

Apparently, the only one unsure is Bud. Bud should have pushed for outing sausage boy last year, and had a real QB that could step in effectively at the beginning of THIS year when the Tacks were showing signs of flaming beyond just their helmets. Bud screwed Houston. Now he's found more creative ways to further his legacy in Tennessee.

Double Barrel
10-27-2009, 12:22 PM
hmmmm...good ol' Bud...Nashville never really got to experience young Bud...no, not like we lived with for so many years. This story brings us back to those days of yesteryear...

"The Sith must be ruled by a single leader, the very embodiment of the strength and power of the dark side. If the leader grows weak, another must rise to seize the mantle."
―Darth Revan's holocron

It's obvious that Darth Budious wants his young apprentice to undermine Fisher's Jedi council.

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6479/buddarkside.jpg

So, did Fisher wear the Manning jersey after Bud told him to play VY? :hmmm:

WWJD
10-27-2009, 12:26 PM
No reason not to play Vince.

bah007
10-27-2009, 12:37 PM
Apparently, the only one unsure is Bud. Bud should have pushed for outing sausage boy last year, and had a real QB that could step in effectively at the beginning of THIS year when the Tacks were showing signs of flaming beyond just their helmets. Bud screwed Houston. Now he's found more creative ways to further his legacy in Tennessee.

I'm not complaining. The worse it gets up there the happier I will be.

eriadoc
10-27-2009, 12:53 PM
Personally, I'm hoping Fisher holds out as long as possible. He's going to be fired anyway, but if the Tacks see what they have in VY for sure this season, then they may bring in another QB. If they go into next season not quite sure what they have, then they're more likely to ruin next season finding out.

Double Barrel
10-27-2009, 12:54 PM
No reason not to play Vince.

Well, no reason except that he sucks, of course. :shades:

nunusguy
10-27-2009, 01:01 PM
Bud screwed Houston.
Maybe, but only after Lanier screwed him.

Double Barrel
10-27-2009, 01:06 PM
Maybe, but only after Lanier screwed him.

Lanier offered Bud a new stadium. How did he screw him again?

ONE MAN made the decision. ONE MAN.

Double Barrel
10-27-2009, 01:25 PM
Here is an interesting article about what was going down circa 1994. It exposes Bud for what he is, and it also shows Les and Drayton to be not much different, IMO. They just held out longer than Bud.

Wanna Buy a RoboDome? (http://www.houstonpress.com/1994-01-27/news/wanna-buy-a-robodome/1)

Rumors of a downtown facility of various kinds have swirled since the completion of the George R. Brown Convention Center in 1987. Official word was leaked by Mayor Bob Lanier late last November, when he informed Channel 13/KTRK's Tell It Like It Is sports-media forum that there was a "radical" stadium proposal on the table.

"What the mayor has done," explained Harris County Commissioner Steve Radack, "is thrown a topwater lure out there to see who's gonna snap at it -- to see what kind of big fish he might get on the line."

The big fish were biting. In the November 23 Houston Post, both the Houston Rockets and the Oilers confirmed having talks with Lanier about the proposed stadium. Lanier and Rockets owner Leslie Alexander tossed the idea around in public during the Rockets' November 20 victory over the Los Angeles Clippers.

p.s. ONE MAN made the decision. Nobody ran anyone out of town. ONE MAN made the decision. ;)

Texan_Bill
10-27-2009, 01:33 PM
Lanier offered Bud a new stadium. How did he screw him again?

ONE MAN made the decision. ONE MAN.

Back in Houston, Lanier started to crack. He offered a deal to build an open-air stadium for Adams. But Adams decided it was too little too late, and besides, it supposedly was too hot to play outside in Houston.


ONE MAN made the decision.

I wish people would read the article entitled: "NFL Oilers: A Case Study in Corporate Welfare." (http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:LOynrM_BacMJ:www.thefreemanonline.o rg/featured/the-nfl-oilers-a-case-study-in-corporate-welfare/+A+case+study+in+corporate+welfare&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

I've posted it several times as well as Hervoyel.

CloakNNNdagger
10-27-2009, 01:46 PM
ONE MAN made the decision.

I wish people would read the article entitled: "NFL Oilers: A Case Study in Corporate Welfare." (http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:LOynrM_BacMJ:www.thefreemanonline.o rg/featured/the-nfl-oilers-a-case-study-in-corporate-welfare/+A+case+study+in+corporate+welfare&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

I've posted it several times as well as Hervoyel.

Great article! Must spread the rep!:goodpost:

OzzO
10-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Ooh, I'd like to see that conversation with Young go down.

(umm.... yeah - not intended)

I wonder if Jeff Fisher will be able to keep a straight face while he informs Vince that he's now the starter of an 0-6 team and is expected to turn the team around. Way to hoist them on your shoulders Vince.

(ummm....)

nunusguy
10-27-2009, 02:12 PM
Lanier offered Bud a new stadium. How did he screw him again?

ONE MAN made the decision. ONE MAN.

That's not my recollection at all ? Lanier made improvements at the old Astrodome (a stadium where the Oilers were only a tenant and shared the facility with the Astros), that included some suites and several thousand additional seats, but nothing like a new stadium built specifically for the
football teams. Adams had to go to Nashville to get that deal.
Of course Lanier turned around later and built his buddy Drayton McClain a new baseball stadium. That's the story I remember.

Texan_Bill
10-27-2009, 02:37 PM
Back in Houston, Lanier started to crack. He offered a deal to build an open-air stadium for Adams. But Adams decided it was too little too late, and besides, it supposedly was too hot to play outside in Houston.
ONE MAN made the decision.

I wish people would read the article entitled: "NFL Oilers: A Case Study in Corporate Welfare." (http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:LOynrM_BacMJ:www.thefreemanonline.o rg/featured/the-nfl-oilers-a-case-study-in-corporate-welfare/+A+case+study+in+corporate+welfare&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us)

I've posted it several times as well as Hervoyel.

That's not my recollection at all ? Lanier made improvements at the old Astrodome (a stadium where the Oilers were only a tenant and shared the facility with the Astros), that included some suites and several thousand additional seats, but nothing like a new stadium built specifically for the
football teams. Adams had to go to Nashville to get that deal.
Of course Lanier turned around later and built his buddy Drayton McClain a new baseball stadium. That's the story I remember.

You just forgot two components (it's hell getting old ;) ):
A) Bud was offered a stadium
B) He chose to go to Nashville anyway.

Honoring Earl 34
10-27-2009, 02:45 PM
You just forgot two components (it's hell getting old ;) ):
A) Bud was offered a stadium
B) He chose to go to Nashville anyway.

We're still paying on the dome after all these years . I watched Alabama at the rodeo during the renovation period and froze my butt off because of the open spaces due to construction . I was to cold to drink beer .

He also decided to make a play for his new stadium after going 2-14 . He threatened to go to Nashville in a routine that looked like the Jacksonville ploy . Nashville called his bluff and got Bud to agree to an exclusive negotiating period to where he agreed to 10 years of guaranteed sellouts . If he backed out not only would he look stupid , he had no leverage .

Double Barrel
10-27-2009, 02:48 PM
That's not my recollection at all ? Lanier made improvements at the old Astrodome (a stadium where the Oilers were only a tenant and shared the facility with the Astros), that included some suites and several thousand additional seats, but nothing like a new stadium built specifically for the
football teams. Adams had to go to Nashville to get that deal.
Of course Lanier turned around later and built his buddy Drayton McClain a new baseball stadium. That's the story I remember.

Read both articles posted by Bill and I. Your memory will be refreshed. The devil is in the details.

Besides, Bud could have out-waited a mayor, who is just an elected official. By that point, Bud had owned the team for over 3 decades. Count how many mayors had come and gone by that point (FYI: five plus Lanier).

You can spin it all you want and you are welcome to revisionist history, but NONE of that can change the simple fact that the decision to move the team came down to ONE MAN.

Texan_Bill
10-27-2009, 02:53 PM
We're still paying on the dome after all these years . I watched Alabama at the rodeo during the renovation period and froze my butt off because of the open spaces due to construction . I was to cold to drink beer .

He also decided to make a play for his new stadium after going 2-14 . He threatened to go to Nashville in a routine that looked like the Jacksonville ploy . Nashville called his bluff and got Bud to agree to an exclusive negotiating period to where he agreed to 10 years of guaranteed sellouts . If he backed out not only would he look stupid , he had no leverage .

Ugh!! I remember the renovation period. Even years after that, I would always get pissed whenever I would look at the seats where this once meant a lot to us:

http://www.theswearingens.com/mantle/images/dome14.gif


Read both articles posted by Bill and I. Your memory will be refreshed. The devil is in the details.

Besides, Bud could have out-waited a mayor, who is just an elected official. By that point, Bud had owned the team for over 3 decades. Count how many mayors had come and gone by that point (FYI: five plus Lanier).

You can spin it all you want and you are welcome to revisionist history, but NONE of that can change the simple fact that the decision to move the team came down to ONE MAN.

ONE SLUG

Corrected for historical accuracy ;)

StarStruck
10-27-2009, 04:05 PM
If the bench works as well for Vince as it did for Alex Smith, perhaps the move could prove to be good. I'm glad Smith only played the second half on Sunday. If he keeps up that type of performance, the signed jersey I have could eventually be worth something.

Porky
10-27-2009, 04:06 PM
I'm confused. Can someone tell me how many men caused the Oilers to leave again? :thinking:

StarStruck
10-27-2009, 04:09 PM
Two?

gwallaia
10-27-2009, 04:10 PM
As long as no passing situations arise in the game, Vince should be fine.

Hookem Horns
10-27-2009, 04:13 PM
I'm confused. Can someone tell me how many men caused the Oilers to leave again? :thinking:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgGTTtR0kc

Texan_Bill
10-27-2009, 04:23 PM
I'm confused. Can someone tell me how many men caused the Oilers to leave again? :thinking:

Two?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzgGTTtR0kc

Well played sir!!

One is the loneliest number that you'll ever do

Double Barrel
10-27-2009, 05:17 PM
I'm confused. Can someone tell me how many men caused the Oilers to leave again? :thinking:

http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2008/obama_flickr/flickr_01.jpg

Texan_Bill
10-27-2009, 05:35 PM
I'm confused. Can someone tell me how many men caused the Oilers to leave again? :thinking:

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/football/nfl/07/26/moon0723/t1_moon2.jpg



http://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2008/obama_flickr/flickr_01.jpg

Not "The One"..

Spled
10-27-2009, 06:38 PM
If I had millions invested in Vince Young I would want to find out if he can do something with the wildcat. I don't think he will ever be a good pocket passer.

CloakNNNdagger
10-28-2009, 08:25 PM
I see an ultimate parting of the ways between Fisher and Adams in the not far off future. They never agreed on Young from the beginning. He was a forced issue on Fisher. If it would have worked, well, then forgive and forget. Now it's TWO times the issue has been forced upon Fisher........and it still won't work. I see the day that Fisher takes Adams' toupe and volunteers to store it in Adams' pie hole.

Hookem Horns
10-28-2009, 11:41 PM
Matt Turk chimes in on how many men caused the Oilers to leave.

http://images.chron.com/photos/2009/09/13/18295769/600xPopupGallery.jpg

Hookem Horns
10-28-2009, 11:45 PM
I see an ultimate parting of the ways between Fisher and Adams in the not far off future. They never agreed on Young from the beginning. He was a forced issue on Fisher. If it would have worked, well, then forgive and forget. Now it's TWO times the issue has been forced upon Fisher........and it still won't work. I see the day that Fisher takes Adams' toupe and volunteers to store it in Adams' pie hole.

I agree. If Fisher is still around after this season I would be very surprised. The younger Bud would have fired him long ago. Hopefully their next head coach will be an Ed Biles type and they suffer a good decade of boring, bad football. Then we will see just how great the fans are there.

Marcus
10-29-2009, 02:15 AM
If I had millions invested in Vince Young I would want to find out if he can do something with the wildcat. I don't think he will ever be a good pocket passer.

His rookie season, when he won ROY, he ran it like he did in college.

But during the offseason, no doubt after listening to someone tell him he wouldn't last long if he continued to do that, Vince decided, not anyone else, BUT VINCE, decided that he wanted to be a drop back pocket passer like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady.

Fisher didn't have a problem with Vince his rookie year. It was only when Vince wanted to be someone that he wasn't that Fisher had a problem with.

Jeff Fisher didn't sabotage Vince Young's career. Vince Young did.

Double Barrel
10-29-2009, 01:07 PM
Die slow.

huh? :um:

kastofsna
10-29-2009, 02:02 PM
looks like he's officially the starter against Jacksonville.

Hookem Horns
10-29-2009, 02:04 PM
Die slow.

You talking about VY's career in the NFL?

Double Barrel
10-29-2009, 03:45 PM
You talking about VY's career in the NFL?

No doubt!

It's just a messed up thing to say - "die slow" - when it's JUST A FREAKIN' GAME.

I have no animosity toward VY the man and give him props where it is due (i.e. his college career). But as a pro QB, he has not shown that he has the skills, and when viewed through the massive hype around the player coming into the NFL, his abilities as a pro QB suck at this point in time. Plus, he's a Tennessee Titan, and they all suck.

I'd like to see "steroids" be man enough to clarify his comment, because otherwise he's just another internet troll (unless, of course, he's referring to VY's career, but I'm not getting that vibe).

HOU-TEX
10-29-2009, 03:51 PM
No doubt!

It's just a messed up thing to say - "die slow" - when it's JUST A FREAKIN' GAME.

I have no animosity toward VY the man and give him props where it is due (i.e. his college career). But as a pro QB, he has not shown that he has the skills, and when viewed through the massive hype around the player coming into the NFL, his abilities as a pro QB suck at this point in time. Plus, he's a Tennessee Titan, and they all suck.

I'd like to see "steroids" be man enough to clarify his comment, because otherwise he's just another internet troll (unless, of course, he's referring to VY's career, but I'm not getting that vibe).

I wasn't sure if he/she was talking about you or VY. Regardless, it's a very stupid thing to say.

Hopefully there was a different meaning by it all together.

Double Barrel
10-29-2009, 04:08 PM
I wasn't sure if he/she was talking about you or VY. Regardless, it's a very stupid thing to say.

Hopefully there was a different meaning by it all together.

Well, going by his previous posts, he's a Longhorn fan, and it appears that he now has a hurt sausage for VY. :hobie:

ziggy29
10-30-2009, 01:09 PM
No reason not to play Vince.
Sure there is. VY plays and we folks in the Austin market probably lose televised Texans games. Sit down, Vince!

Spled
10-30-2009, 07:52 PM
I wonder if Austin will go back to airing Titans games because of Vince or will they stick with the Texans and Kasey Studdard?

Corrosion
10-30-2009, 08:11 PM
I wish Fisher would have told Dud to go {/////////> himself


Buck Fud.


:shades:

CloakNNNdagger
10-30-2009, 09:25 PM
I wish Fisher would have told Dud to go {/////////> himself


Buck Fud.


:shades:


Patience, Grasshopper..........:chef:

Corrosion
10-30-2009, 09:55 PM
Patience, Grasshopper..........:chef:

Fisher sure must have a lot of patience to work for that jackass for 14 seasons. :gun:

TxDavid
10-30-2009, 10:22 PM
What did they expect would happen when they donned the Oilers uniforms again? win? :thisbig::specnatz:

HouSportsWriter
10-31-2009, 12:43 PM
change the name to bud want his blanky or bud gos crazy haha

Spled
11-01-2009, 09:58 PM
Looks like Vince and Chris Johnson on the field at the same time is not easy for a defense to deal with.

Marcus
11-02-2009, 03:47 AM
Looks like Vince and Chris Johnson on the field at the same time is not easy for a defense to deal with.

From what I understand, it was more like Chris Johnson all by himself.

infantrycak
11-02-2009, 09:13 AM
I don't take kindly to the VY-hate on these boards. His NFL QB career is not over, not dying -- in fact he just lit it up yesterday.

And I'm the troll? You're on a HOUSTON AREA SPORTS website, talking mess about Vince Young, and when someone tells you to go F yourself, you think they are trolling you?

You're delusional.

No, thinking someone lit it up when they passed for 125 yds on top of an almost 300 yd rushing game is delusional. And what is the banner at the top? It isn't houstonareasports.com. It is Texanstalk.com. VY plays for a division rival.

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 09:14 AM
VY's performance was very David Carr(esque) yesterday. Lots of dinks and dunks for a high completion %. Sounds familiar. :thinking:

ChampionTexan
11-02-2009, 09:33 AM
I don't take kindly to the VY-hate on these boards. His NFL QB career is not over, not dying -- in fact he just lit it up yesterday.

And I'm the troll? You're on a HOUSTON AREA SPORTS website, talking mess about Vince Young, and when someone tells you to go F yourself, you think they are trolling you?

You're delusional.

This isn't a "HOUSTON AREA SPORTS website" - it's a site dedicated to the Houston Texans who just happen to be a rival of the team that Vince plays for. That might be just a little bit relevent in this instance.

Given the history of the '06 draft, and the immediate fallout that was the '06 season, you're being a bit over the top with the "F" word or wishing someone's demise, or whatever it is your post was meant to do. Your viewpoint belongs on this board as well, but something tells me "talking mess" about the (now) starting QB of a division rival doesn't really warrant being told to do what you told him to do.

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 09:45 AM
From what I understand, it was more like Chris Johnson all by himself.

Watching the Titans / Jags game, was more like watching the Tennessee Chris Johnsons v. the Jacksonville Maruice Jones-Drews.

GlassHalfFull
11-02-2009, 09:49 AM
Watching the Titans / Jags game, was more like watching the Tennessee Chris Browns v. the Jacksonville Maruice Jones-Drews.

Somebody get Bill another cup of coffee :coffee:

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 09:57 AM
Somebody get Bill another cup of coffee :coffee:

D"OH!!! I haven't even finished my first cup... Fixed.

Dread-Head
11-02-2009, 10:11 AM
Considering what they're PAYIN' the muff-hugga...if I were Bud I'd be playin' him too. Vugg it...with their record they've got nothing to lose.

HOU-TEX
11-02-2009, 11:21 AM
I don't take kindly to the VY-hate on these boards. His NFL QB career is not over, not dying -- in fact he just lit it up yesterday.

And I'm the troll? You're on a HOUSTON AREA SPORTS website, talking mess about Vince Young, and when someone tells you to go F yourself, you think they are trolling you?

You're delusional.

:spit: I really don't know what to say to such a thing. Other than, you must be the other dude in the infamous VY and Studdard shirtless picture. Good Lord, man.

BigBull17
11-02-2009, 11:52 AM
I don't take kindly to the VY-hate on these boards. His NFL QB career is not over, not dying -- in fact he just lit it up yesterday.

And I'm the troll? You're on a HOUSTON AREA SPORTS website, talking mess about Vince Young, and when someone tells you to go F yourself, you think they are trolling you?

You're delusional.

I guess CJ rushed fo all those yards because VY "makes his team better just being on the field"? Ef him. He is David Carr in different skin.

Second Honeymoon
11-02-2009, 11:53 AM
Watching the Titans / Jags game, was more like watching the Tennessee Chris Johnsons v. the Jacksonville Maruice Jones-Drews.

you would have to say VY played well though. he had a few nice pass plays and a few nice scrambles.

one thing that was interesting is that they didn't run the draw read as much as they did pre-VY meltdown and VY was not as quick as he normally is. it's obvious the time off hasn't helped his quickness and he is probably carrying a few too many extra pounds. he has never been a chiseled athlete (see famous shirtless VY at party picture) but he needs to shed the lazy weight (see Roy William's physique) and get that burst back.

if Vince leads the Titans to a respectable end of the season, this could get ugly for Fisher. The more the Titans win with VY under Fisher, the worse Fisher looks for not making the move earlier. It took a gun to his head by a senile owner to even consider VY as starter, so there are bridges burned clearly with Fisher. Would Fisher want to come back if Vince was still a Titan?

kastofsna
11-02-2009, 11:54 AM
yeah you can't spin it any other way, Young played well.

HOU-TEX
11-02-2009, 12:00 PM
yeah you can't spin it any other way, Young played well.

Would the outcome have been any different with Collins behind center? I don't think so.

I mentioned last week the titans would win regardless who the QB was, and they did.

kastofsna
11-02-2009, 12:18 PM
i don't know, it's impossible to say, that didn't happen. the point is that he played well regardless.

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 12:41 PM
i don't know, it's impossible to say, that didn't happen. the point is that he played well regardless.

I don't call throwing for 125 yards and rushing for 30 very impressive for an NFL quarterback. Uless maybe it was done within a quarter or even a half.

"Oh but his completion % was extremely high" :gun: It usually is when you're consistently throwing screens and check-downs.



All criticisms aside, the ball he threw for a TD was nice, though.

Double Barrel
11-02-2009, 04:07 PM
I don't take kindly to the VY-hate on these boards. His NFL QB career is not over, not dying -- in fact he just lit it up yesterday.

And I'm the troll? You're on a HOUSTON AREA SPORTS website, talking mess about Vince Young, and when someone tells you to go F yourself, you think they are trolling you?

You're delusional.

Oh brother....I guess I should have been the moron with burnt orange glasses on bleating out the "Vince Young is the greatest football player ever and all he does is win".

Get off your high horse. It's just a freakin' game, chump.

Hookem Horns
11-02-2009, 04:25 PM
Lay off VY y'all. The man went to the HOF!

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1766/vyhof.jpg

kastofsna
11-02-2009, 04:31 PM
I don't call throwing for 125 yards and rushing for 30 very impressive for an NFL quarterback. Uless maybe it was done within a quarter or even a half.

"Oh but his completion % was extremely high" :gun: It usually is when you're consistently throwing screens and check-downs.



All criticisms aside, the ball he threw for a TD was nice, though.

114 passer rating is more than you can ask for a guy when the running game is going as well as it was. the game wasn't on his arm, so he did great.

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 05:06 PM
114 passer rating is more than you can ask for a guy when the running game is going as well as it was. the game wasn't on his arm, so he did great.

:rolleyes: I can remember David Carr coming up with a similar game here or there. :gun: Like I said, they're is nothing magical about dinking and dunking.

BTW, most of those rushing yards came off two plays for TD's in the second half.

And why would anyone here listen to a fan of a team that's been looking for a QB since Marino retired? :specnatz:

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 05:07 PM
Lay off VY y'all. The man went to the HOF!

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/1766/vyhof.jpg

:spit:

Texan_Bill
11-02-2009, 05:42 PM
Jay Glazer"Some players went so far as to say that five-to-seven times per game Young calls a play that makes no sense whatsoever."

And some other stuff here: Titans Still Want Collins (http://msn.foxsports.com/video/NFL?vid=c0edeb3d-75ca-489e-a8a4-d13477f53c1b)

He did go on to add this though: VY likely earned quite a bit of locker-room good faith after his Week 8 performance against the Jags.

Pantherstang84
11-02-2009, 09:59 PM
:rolleyes: I can remember David Carr coming up with a similar game here or there. :gun: Like I said, they're is nothing magical about dinking and dunking.

BTW, most of those rushing yards came off two plays for TD's in the second half.

And why would anyone here listen to a fan of a team that's been looking for a QB since Marino retired? :specnatz:


Somebody hit Texan_Bill for me. That is funny.:spit:

morpheus
11-02-2009, 10:27 PM
:rolleyes: I can remember David Carr coming up with a similar game here or there. :gun: Like I said, they're is nothing magical about dinking and dunking.

BTW, most of those rushing yards came off two plays for TD's in the second half.

And why would anyone here listen to a fan of a team that's been looking for a QB since Marino retired? :specnatz:

david carr has zero titles on any level above little league. vince knows what it takes to win a big game. that said, unless they let him run in the offense it wont work out in the long run.

and whats more, screw the titans.

Second Honeymoon
11-03-2009, 10:23 AM
Do you really need someone to connect the dots? VY is a Houston area all star, for life. The Texans are a Houston team. Bud Adams may be a terrible person for what he did to the Oilers, but I will not ever hold that against anyone but him. It is not VY's fault -- hell he couldn't have been but 12 years old when the Oilers left. He's just playing for the team that drafted him, even though he wanted to go to Houston.

I will continue to root for VY on every day that he isn't playing the Texans. And even when we do play them, I hope he personally plays well.

Just don't expect to be able to talk shit about him, and nobody come at you. He has supporters around here, regardless of how you feel.

i get what you are saying but more importantly, whose delicious bootie is that in your avatar. if you say your wife, i gotta call bull***t. those are some A+ bubbles.

i respect VY but you gotta realize a lot of this grief he brought on himself. he hasn't worked hard enough to be a pro QB and he has had some off the field issues that have hampered his development. he also may not be bright enough to be a top NFL QB.

Double Barrel
11-03-2009, 10:39 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! This thread is funny. :peek:

Texan_Bill
11-03-2009, 10:56 AM
david carr has zero titles on any level above little league. vince knows what it takes to win a big game. that said, unless they let him run in the offense it wont work out in the long run.

and whats more, screw the titans.

LMAO.!! I knew your argument would be relatively weak when you have to discredit the likes of David Carr, to pump up Vince.

Vince knows what its like to win a big game at a collegiate level. Pro football and college football are NOT the same thing. See Joe Flacco. There is no true correlation between college and pros.


Agree about "screw the titans".

Texan_Bill
11-03-2009, 10:57 AM
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! This thread is funny. :peek:

How so?? :runaway:

Double Barrel
11-03-2009, 12:06 PM
How so?? :runaway:

Being told to die because I have an opinion about an over-hyped athlete on a division rival's team makes me chuckle at the small mind behind it. There must be something about a man-crush that causes a person to lose the ability to be a decent human being.

Little did I know that VY's athletic supporter would blindly rush to his defense at the slightest mention of criticism. I guess dude never made it to the "Vince Young and the Disappearing Sausage Trick" thread in the smack section.

And I did not realize that I had pushed the emergency button for the wahhhbulance. I laugh because I could care less about fools.

Texan_Bill
11-03-2009, 12:33 PM
Being told to die because I have an opinion about an over-hyped athlete on a division rival's team makes me chuckle at the small mind behind it. There must be something about a man-crush that causes a person to lose the ability to be a decent human being.

Little did I know that VY's athletic supporter would blindly rush to his defense at the slightest mention of criticism. I guess dude never made it to the "Vince Young and the Disappearing Sausage Trick" thread in the smack section.

And I did not realize that I had pushed the emergency button for the wahhhbulance. I laugh because I could care less about fools.

Awesome!! Simply awesome!!!

Dan B.
11-03-2009, 01:20 PM
i get what you are saying but more importantly, whose delicious bootie is that in your avatar. if you say your wife, i gotta call bull***t. those are some A+ bubbles.

i respect VY but you gotta realize a lot of this grief he brought on himself. he hasn't worked hard enough to be a pro QB and he has had some off the field issues that have hampered his development. he also may not be bright enough to be a top NFL QB.

Fortunately, I'm having a tough time finishing one of his posts. My eyes keep drifting to the left....

Second Honeymoon
11-03-2009, 06:33 PM
Fortunately, I'm having a tough time finishing one of his posts. My eyes keep drifting to the left....

I know. That booty was sculpted in the gym no doubt. girls aint born with that. that comes from hours of hitting the cardio path and butt crunches. I remember there were a few sorority houses at Texas that cranked them out like that. Armadas of hot chicks in tight workout clothes showing booty. Back then the 'in thing' was the NIKE soccer shorts that said NIKE on the butt. Those were great.

Texan_Bill
11-03-2009, 06:44 PM
Fortunately, I'm having a tough time finishing one of his posts. My eyes keep drifting to the left....

I know. That booty was sculpted in the gym no doubt. girls aint born with that. that comes from hours of hitting the cardio path and butt crunches. I remember there were a few sorority houses at Texas that cranked them out like that. Armadas of hot chicks in tight workout clothes showing booty. Back then the 'in thing' was the NIKE soccer shorts that said NIKE on the butt. Those were great.

:secret: psssst check out the BOTD thread in a few minutes.

Second Honeymoon
11-03-2009, 06:49 PM
:secret: psssst check out the BOTD thread in a few minutes.

i'll have to do it stealthily wife is around and 8 months preggers. i am uber loyal to my woman but looking at rumps of that quality could make her feel a bit overmatched and would have an excuse to start bitching or whining. gotta keep her happy for myself as well as herself.

Texan_Bill
11-03-2009, 06:59 PM
i'll have to do it stealthily wife is around and 8 months preggers. i am uber loyal to my woman but looking at rumps of that quality could make her feel a bit overmatched and would have an excuse to start bitching or whining. gotta keep her happy for myself as well as herself.

Oooops. I hear ya. BTW, congrats on the soon to be new arrival of joy!!

Double Barrel
11-03-2009, 07:07 PM
i'll have to do it stealthily wife is around and 8 months preggers. i am uber loyal to my woman but looking at rumps of that quality could make her feel a bit overmatched and would have an excuse to start bitching or whining. gotta keep her happy for myself as well as herself.

Smart man.

Wolf
11-03-2009, 11:42 PM
i respect VY but you gotta realize a lot of this grief he brought on himself. he hasn't worked hard enough to be a pro QB and he has had some off the field issues that have hampered his development. he also may not be bright enough to be a top NFL QB.

exactly