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kastofsna
10-26-2009, 01:09 PM
after reading some of the responses in the latest JaMarcus Russell thread, it's clear everyone was pretty spot-on about him sucking.

but what are some recent players you thought would be AWESOME but have gone completely the other way?

sticking with the Raiders, i said Darren McFadden was a better prospect than Adrian Peterson. to be fair, i thought Peterson was the best RB prospect ever the year before. i just thought McFadden would be better. :gun:

bah007
10-26-2009, 01:18 PM
Here are some of my recent mishaps...

2008:
I thought Matt Ryan was overrated. Oops.
I thought Brian Brohm was the best QB in the draft. Ouch.

2007:
I thought Adam Carriker was the best D lineman in the draft.
I thought Leon Hall would be better than Darrelle Revis.

2006:
I thought Vince Young would eventually be the best QB in the class.
I thought Michael Huff was a sure thing.

kastofsna
10-26-2009, 01:25 PM
to be fair, Carriker has been hurt and had a good rookie season. i was HUGE on him, too.

swtbound07
10-26-2009, 01:28 PM
I remember being really stoked about mendenhall and antoine cason. Gonna have to do some digging in this topic.

Texecutioner
10-26-2009, 01:36 PM
after reading some of the responses in the latest JaMarcus Russell thread, it's clear everyone was pretty spot-on about him sucking.

but what are some recent players you thought would be AWESOME but have gone completely the other way?

sticking with the Raiders, i said Darren McFadden was a better prospect than Adrian Peterson. to be fair, i thought Peterson was the best RB prospect ever the year before. i just thought McFadden would be better. :gun:

Man o man, I've been telling people about what a bust Mcfadden will be since last pre season. Mcfadden can be tackled way to easily to be a great NFL RB. He can be arm tackled and he runs straight up so he's easy to grab and pull down. He doesn't have great hip movement where he can shift from side to side either like many smaller backs. He reminds me more and more of Reggie Bush every time I watch the guy, with his inability to break tackles once someone is there to get him. He's just a North and South runner as far as his speed goes. If he gets behind you, you're not going to catch him. But he doesn't juke people that well really to get to that point. Some runners his size are pretty good because they run very physical and explode off of contact, but he's the opposite. Mcfadden will be one of the biggest busts of this decade. At this point, he's been worse than Reggie Bush actually. Reggie Bush did a lot more as a receiver at least in his first two seasons to off set some of his inefficiencies as a rusher. Mcfadden hasn't done anything as a receiver really or as a rusher.

As far as NFL busts go that I thought would be great players well...............

Michael Huff - I can't believe this guy has never amounted to much in Oakland. Yeah, he may be in Oakland but that hasn't stopped their shut down corner from being great at his position. I thought Huff was a can't miss guy.

Dwayne Jerritt - The big tall WR out of USC. I thought he would be great in the NFL because of his size and his hands he had in college. He really knew how to use his size to climb up and grab balls. I thought he would be similar to Calvin Johnson in that class. Boy, was I wrong on that one.

Bobby Carpenter - He was a fantastic LB in college at OSU. Hell, I thought that entire trio of LB's they had would be can't miss guys. They were all so effective. Carpenter was all over the place when I watched him in college. I thought the Cowboys had gotten him for a steal when they did. He hasn't done anything ever since.

badboy
10-26-2009, 01:37 PM
I think I miss more on under rating players. I remember yelling at the TV screen "Demeco who?"

Texecutioner
10-26-2009, 01:41 PM
I remember being really stoked about mendenhall and antoine cason. Gonna have to do some digging in this topic.

Well Mendenhall got hurt like in his 2nd game last season, and now he has become the starter and has played pretty well for the Steelers the last few games. He's blocking well as a RB as well. I don't think you can call him a bust right now when he's taken over the position in his first year of being healthy.

HoustonFrog
10-26-2009, 01:55 PM
I'll be the first to my admit my most embarrassing is Leaf over Manning

I thought Leaf was stronger and looked like the proto-type QB in college. I thought Manning a guy with happy feet and couldn't win the big one in college. I thought he was kind of a wuss to be honest. Boy was that wrong.

Besides that I am almost always right :) :toast2:

beerlover
10-26-2009, 01:57 PM
wanted Vince Young :roast:

Ckw
10-26-2009, 02:16 PM
Reggie Bush: I bought the hype hook line and sinker. I really thought for a while he could revolutionize the position. I used to drool regularly over his USC highlights. Man was I wrong...

Same could be said for Matt Leinart. I thought the guy was a total can't miss talent. I didn't think Vince Young or Jay Cutler would be good QBs, so I was right about one and wrong about the other. In fact, I was wrong about a lot of guys from that 06 draft...

kastofsna
10-26-2009, 02:28 PM
i was big into Leinart. however, i'm not entirely writing him off just yet. he's stuck in that Aaron Rodgers zone right now.

Ckw
10-26-2009, 02:34 PM
i was big into Leinart. however, i'm not entirely writing him off just yet. he's stuck in that Aaron Rodgers zone right now.

Maybe. I think the biggest problem with Leinart is that he is left-handed which reverse the entire offense. A coordinator would have to decide to tailor his offense around him, and I just don't think that is going to happen. We'll see though. I have certainly been wrong before.

Blake
10-26-2009, 02:45 PM
Wanted Vince Young... I was tired of the Carr era.

Thought Santonio Holmes was overrated as a first round prospect.

Blake
10-26-2009, 02:46 PM
Also thought Reggie Bush was gonna flip this league on its head.

BigBull17
10-26-2009, 02:53 PM
Here are some of my recent mishaps...

2008:
I thought Matt Ryan was overrated. Oops.
I thought Brian Brohm was the best QB in the draft. Ouch.

2007:
I thought Adam Carriker was the best D lineman in the draft.
I thought Leon Hall would be better than Darrelle Revis.

2006:
I thought Vince Young would eventually be the best QB in the class.
I thought Michael Huff was a sure thing.

Me too. I thought he was the worst player they could have taken. Liked that Dorsey kid better. Two with one pick, huh? Also, really really REALLY hated the Cushing pick. Wanted to trade back and get a CB. Darius Butler.

kastofsna
10-26-2009, 03:15 PM
the jury is still out on Dorsey.

Bubbajwp
10-26-2009, 03:20 PM
Limas Sweed

Fred Bennett

eriadoc
10-26-2009, 03:29 PM
I usually don't project too much, but some that I remember:

I really thought Andre Ware would do OK in the NFL. Oops.

I really thought that DE that the Falcons drafted in the late '80s/early '90s was going to blow up. I can't remember his name, but I'm sure someone knows who I'm talking about.

I knew beyond the shadow of a doubt that JJ Arrington wouldn't make it in the pros, despite all the hype about the 2000 yard season. In fact, I mentioned it a few times when people kept hyping Reggie Bust to me. I knew he wouldn't live up to the hype, either.

I knew Jay Cutler would be the best QB in the first round 2006. You didn't need to be much of an Oracle to figure that one out, but here in TX, you were a heretic for suggesting VY would bust.

I was big on both D'Brickashaw Ferguson (despite the name) and Sam Baker, for their respective spots in the draft. Baker's done better to this point, I believe, but Ferguson's doing OK.

Also in the "Too Obvious" category, I knew that anyone the Bengals drafted in the '90s would suck. :D

rmartin65
10-26-2009, 04:19 PM
I was a Reggie Bush fan. Bah. I did say that AP would be better, but I thought RB was going to be a legit player.

I cant really think of anything terrible, but I am sure there is more.

kastofsna
10-27-2009, 09:17 AM
Maybe. I think the biggest problem with Leinart is that he is left-handed which reverse the entire offense. A coordinator would have to decide to tailor his offense around him, and I just don't think that is going to happen. We'll see though. I have certainly been wrong before.

eh, not really. it's not that big of a change. certainly didn't hurt USC. or the Niners with Montana/Young.

Ckw
10-27-2009, 10:42 AM
eh, not really. it's not that big of a change. certainly didn't hurt USC. or the Niners with Montana/Young.

Steve Young was one of the greatest QBs of all time. Leinart should never even be mentioned in the same sentence.

kastofsna
10-27-2009, 10:48 AM
they should be if it directly relates to the point i'm trying to make.

Ckw
10-27-2009, 11:02 AM
they should be if it directly relates to the point i'm trying to make.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

HoustonFrog
10-27-2009, 11:14 AM
Steve Young was one of the greatest QBs of all time. Leinart should never even be mentioned in the same sentence.

As a reference though, Young wasn't thought of that way when he was getting his tail kicked in Tampa Bay. He didn't do much in the USFL and in 2 seasons with TB was 3-16 as a starter with 11 TDs and 21 Ints with a 55% completion percentage. So you really have to wai tand see what any guy can do in a given system. Though Leinart should be able to succeed in a Cards system with those WRs

Mr. White
10-27-2009, 01:41 PM
I won't lie. I swung onto this board right off Vince Young's jock right after the 2006 Rose Bowl. Everyone was either a "Vince guy" or a "Reggie guy" back then.

There was also a group of "Trade Down guys," but they were too quiet to register.

I cursed the team every chance I got for passing on Vince and keeping Carr all throughout the '06 season.

The funny thing is that a lot of you guys were right there with me. And a lot weren't. I still remember who was a Vince guy and who was a Reggie guy for the most part. I remember those days fondly. There was no better place to come for an argument than this board. My wife couldn't stand to be around me back then.

Since then, I've gotten a lot more careful about my draft day declarations.

steelbtexan
10-27-2009, 01:50 PM
I thought Leihart would be great.

VY would bust.

kastofsna
10-27-2009, 02:17 PM
I won't lie. I swung onto this board right off Vince Young's jock right after the 2006 Rose Bowl. Everyone was either a "Vince guy" or a "Reggie guy" back then.

There was also a group of "Trade Down guys," but they were too quiet to register.

I cursed the team every chance I got for passing on Vince and keeping Carr all throughout the '06 season.

The funny thing is that a lot of you guys were right there with me. And a lot weren't. I still remember who was a Vince guy and who was a Reggie guy for the most part. I remember those days fondly. There was no better place to come for an argument than this board. My wife couldn't stand to be around me back then.

Since then, I've gotten a lot more careful about my draft day declarations.

there were some D'Brickashaw guys and even a handful of Mario guys, if i remember correctly

that draft was when i joined the site, it was a lot of fun.

BigBull17
10-27-2009, 02:30 PM
there were some D'Brickashaw guys and even a handful of Mario guys, if i remember correctly

that draft was when i joined the site, it was a lot of fun.

I liked Mario, liked Reggie a little, and didn't want any part of VY. I wanted to trade down and maybe get Mario.

bah007
10-27-2009, 03:23 PM
there were some D'Brickashaw guys and even a handful of Mario guys, if i remember correctly

that draft was when i joined the site, it was a lot of fun.

I joined the board just before the season started after that draft.

I remember wanting VY terribly bad but the front office made it clear that Carr was the guy so I just let go of that pipe dream and jumped on the Mario bandwagon. I actually think I would have been okay with us taking anybody as long as it wasn't Bush.

Even before the draft happened, I would have felt comfortable betting my life's savings that Reggie Bush would be a bust. I was that certain of it. I literally ran around the house cheering when I heard Mario's name called. Even though it had kind of been announced prior to the actual draft I was just so sure that somehow we were gonna end up with Bush and I was going to have to rebel.

Stemp
10-27-2009, 03:50 PM
One of the guys at our tailgate made a shirt with "SAM BOWIE" on the back with Mario's number. I still give him hell for that.