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CloakNNNdagger
10-15-2009, 09:02 PM
and that's exactly what's happening.

From Brian Cushing's blog (http://playerpress.com/articles/busy-days):

Busy Days

Written by Brian Cushing, Thursday October 15 2009

In my rookie year Iíve found that I really have no time off at all. On Tuesday, my day off, I went to the stadium to work out, then I had treatment, iced my shoulder, iced my knee, got a massage. I went home and got in the hyperbaric chamber for an hour. Then I just hung out watching film of the Cincinnati Bengals, and that was really the only time I had to myself all week.

On a practice day Iím up at 5:15 a.m. just to get started early. I get to the facility and get my treatment, then we have a meeting at 7:15. We practice until about 1:30 or 2 p.m., then more meetings and they send me home after some more treatment. I usually get home around 4:30 every day. Then I like to watch a little game film on my own, they give you a DVD cut up with the things you want to see from the other team.

They let us eat during meetings because they know you have so little time. Guys also fall asleep in meetings all the time, but I sit in the front to make sure that doesnít happen.
Itís a busy schedule but I know I wouldnít trade it for anything. To me, Iím doing the best thing in the world. When it gets tough you just have to realize that this is everything youíve worked for.

Sadly, enough said........

Buffi2
10-15-2009, 09:07 PM
Is this just a Kubiak thing or does it happen all across the NFL? Or do we know?

Lucky
10-15-2009, 09:08 PM
Guys also fall asleep in meetings all the time, but I sit in the front to make sure that doesnít happen.
There will come a time when guys don't fall asleep in meetings that Brian Cushing attends.

No wonder some guys love to play for Gary Kubiak...

TheRealJoker
10-15-2009, 09:13 PM
I have no idea how people who make millions of dollars a year can fall asleep in meetings with no repercussions. I'm surprised someone hasn't taken a leadership role in kicking some sleeping tail.

buddyboy
10-15-2009, 09:43 PM
I have no idea how people who make millions of dollars a year can fall asleep in meetings with no repercussions. I'm surprised someone hasn't taken a leadership role in kicking some sleeping tail.

Sure, they get paid millions of dollars, but that doesn't make them above being human. I'm a student, and technically the ONLY thing I have to do is go to class, learn, and do homework. Yet, I still fall asleep during class sometimes. Yeah, they're being paid millions. But being paid millions doesn't mean that you don't get tired.

CloakNNNdagger
10-15-2009, 09:56 PM
Sure, they get paid millions of dollars, but that doesn't make them above being human. I'm a student, and technically the ONLY thing I have to do is go to class, learn, and do homework. Yet, I still fall asleep during class sometimes. Yeah, they're being paid millions. But being paid millions doesn't mean that you don't get tired.

I hope you're not flunking like they are.:runaway:

dc_txtech
10-15-2009, 09:57 PM
Sure, they get paid millions of dollars, but that doesn't make them above being human. I'm a student, and technically the ONLY thing I have to do is go to class, learn, and do homework. Yet, I still fall asleep during class sometimes. Yeah, they're being paid millions. But being paid millions doesn't mean that you don't get tired.

No offense, but c'mon man. I worked 40+ hours a week while going to night school for most of my college career and I can say that I never fell asleep in class. I wanted to on many occasions and in classes where the professor had obviously phoned it in, I really considered it. Never did it though, I always thought it was lazy and disrespectful.

The best professors I had in school would never have tolerated someone falling asleep in their classroom and it surprises me that this actually goes on under Kubiaks watch or in the NFL at all.

TheRealJoker
10-15-2009, 10:13 PM
i hope you're not flunking like they are.:runaway:

+ 1!!!

steelbtexan
10-15-2009, 10:14 PM
Jimmy Johnson cut John Roper for falling asleep in meetings.

I cant believe Kubes is letting this kind of crap go on.

steelbtexan
10-15-2009, 10:15 PM
I hope you're not flunking like they are.:runaway:

Well said

TheRealJoker
10-15-2009, 10:18 PM
Jimmy Johnson cut John Roper for falling asleep in meetings.

I cant believe Kubes is letting this kind of crap go on.

It looks like Kubes gives "the kids" a little nap time after all their hard work. Probably gives them milk and cookies as well.

CloakNNNdagger
10-15-2009, 10:19 PM
No offense, but c'mon man. I worked 40+ hours a week while going to night school for most of my college career and I can say that I never fell asleep in class. I wanted to on many occasions and in classes where the professor had obviously phoned it in, I really considered it. Never did it though, I always thought it was lazy and disrespectful.

The best professors I had in school would never have tolerated someone falling asleep in their classroom and it surprises me that this actually goes on under Kubiaks watch or in the NFL at all.

Agreed. Finding cures are not that difficult. Someone should take pictures and have them regularly posted in the Chronicle. My guess is that all players quickly would spontaneously find themselves in bed by 9 P.M and sitting on tacks, if need be, to avoid somnolence during classroom activities.

NitroGSXR
10-15-2009, 10:20 PM
No offense, but c'mon man. I worked 40+ hours a week while going to night school for most of my college career and I can say that I never fell asleep in class. I wanted to on many occasions and in classes where the professor had obviously phoned it in, I really considered it. Never did it though, I always thought it was lazy and disrespectful.

The best professors I had in school would never have tolerated someone falling asleep in their classroom and it surprises me that this actually goes on under Kubiaks watch or in the NFL at all.

Same here. I worked through school and I worked nights. Never slept a wink and did not miss very many classes.

steelbtexan
10-15-2009, 10:27 PM
It looks like Kubes gives "the kids" a little nap time after all their hard work. Probably gives them milk and cookies as well.

This is why Kubes will be Former Houston Texans head coach GARY KUBIAK.

I have been a big Kubes supporter but if this kind of stuff is going on he needs to be fired ASAP.

You cant win if the players dont respect you.

It's obvious Kubes has lost the players respect.

ArlingtonTexan
10-15-2009, 10:41 PM
Sure, they get paid millions of dollars, but that doesn't make them above being human. I'm a student, and technically the ONLY thing I have to do is go to class, learn, and do homework. Yet, I still fall asleep during class sometimes. Yeah, they're being paid millions. But being paid millions doesn't mean that you don't get tired.

I was thinking something along those lines a someone who teaches you jerks (nice word) who fall asleep in class. Way too may people assume that money essentailly changes their sense of who they are. Most of the people who are disciplined are that way making $7.00 an hour or 7 million dollars. Money does not matter as much as most of you think that it does.

GP
10-15-2009, 10:46 PM
Well, Bob McNair has a rep for possessing the nicest and bestest NFL facilities.

So it figures that each player's chair in the meeting rooms is probably a huge recliner with a built-in massage system.

Attitude reflect leadership, and the leadership at the top is casual and folksy.

Hell, Bob probably takes some of them fishing and lets them operate his model trains.

GuerillaBlack
10-15-2009, 10:52 PM
Hell, Bob probably takes some of them fishing and lets them operate his model trains.

Really wouldn't surprise me at all.

Lauren
10-15-2009, 11:10 PM
Sure, they get paid millions of dollars, but that doesn't make them above being human. I'm a student, and technically the ONLY thing I have to do is go to class, learn, and do homework. Yet, I still fall asleep during class sometimes. Yeah, they're being paid millions. But being paid millions doesn't mean that you don't get tired.
College class? Infinitely different from a team meeting. Or a work meeting for that matter.

If I were to fall asleep in a meeting I would have had my ass handed to me in seven different ways, and that's if I was allowed to keep my job. Not to mention I made what these NFL dudes probably find in their couch cushions any given week.

silvrhand
10-15-2009, 11:24 PM
On a practice day Iím up at 5:15 a.m. just to get started early. I get to the facility and get my treatment, then we have a meeting at 7:15. We practice until about 1:30 or 2 p.m., then more meetings and they send me home after some more treatment. I usually get home around 4:30 every day. Then I like to watch a little game film on my own, they give you a DVD cut up with the things you want to see from the other team.


How many of you work 12-4 hours a day 6 days a week, that's exactly the schedule they are on. I doubt this is bad as it sounds as after lunch when watching film in a dark room I would bet it's not an easy thing to stay awake. We only get a glimpse I'm sure someone comes over and wakes them.

I doubt it's common, but hell I could be completely wrong.

TheIronDuke
10-15-2009, 11:34 PM
So it figures that each player's chair in the meeting rooms is probably a huge recliner with a built-in massage system.

This is a pic of the dline meeting room I took last season after the Bengals game. Hardly comfy.

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d197/arthurj2323/img181.jpg

Texan JBZ
10-15-2009, 11:40 PM
You guys are completely oblivious. This happens on every team in the league all the time and has been happening for some time now. I have a friend of mine that played with the Bucs. He said Warren Sapp would sleep in every meeting they had. It usually happens with veteran players and not the younger guys. The thing that happens is that when the meeting starts, you're usually discussing the gameplan and different formations and blitzes and yada yada yada. Then after that you usually watch film of both practice sessions and game film of the other team. This is when Mr. Sandman usually wants to pay you a little visit. The room is dark and comfortable, and the film session is boring as hell. Perfect situation for a catnap. I never fell asleep in any of my position meetings, but it was hard some days. We did have guys that fell asleep in meetings all the time though.

Also, to the guy who said he falls to sleep in class-wake your ass up and stop wasting your money! You pay good ass money to that instructor and to that university. Get as much out of your investment as you can. If you're going to sleep in class, just stay at home. You're wasting your time and being disrepectful towards your professor. Just my two cents.

Norg
10-15-2009, 11:57 PM
they pactrice everyday ????? even on Friday and sat ????

TexansFanatic
10-16-2009, 12:06 AM
There will come a time when guys don't fall asleep in meetings that Brian Cushing attends.



That rings true to me. There will come a day when Cushing is no longer a rookie and will feel like he can call a teammate out and it will be acceptable. It can't happen too soon for my taste.

ChampionTexan
10-16-2009, 12:12 AM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TkR-KeU-T2A/RfGqZ2rczbI/AAAAAAAAAg4/IbQFywB_mwM/s320/dean+wormer.bmp
Soft, Sleepy and Apathetic is no way to go through life son!
(And for the record, I think this is being way overreacted to.)

Marcus
10-16-2009, 12:36 AM
Are we grasping at straws and making a big ta-do about nothing?

Hey, the team is losing, it's our right. I guess.

steelbtexan
10-16-2009, 12:55 AM
That rings true to me. There will come a day when Cushing is no longer a rookie and will feel like he can call a teammate out and it will be acceptable. It can't happen too soon for my taste.

Counting the days until this happens.

Malloy
10-16-2009, 03:07 AM
I remember than when serving in the military here in DK we were told to sit on our hands or stand up when we had classes indoors.

After the first couple of bloody noses, people started to stand :)

This stuff is no biggie for me, physical exercise, food, then sitting down in a dark room... I would be sleeping too...

ObsiWan
10-16-2009, 03:39 AM
Are we grasping at straws and making a big ta-do about nothing?

Hey, the team is losing, it's our right. I guess.

I vote yes.
Those who think this is a first in the history of the NFL are delusional.

And as far as we know - or as Cushing knows for that matter - everyone who snoozes during meetings might just find his weekly paycheck a little light because he got fined.

Marcus
10-16-2009, 05:08 AM
I remember than when serving in the military here in DK we were told to sit on our hands or stand up when we had classes indoors.

After the first couple of bloody noses, people started to stand :)

This stuff is no biggie for me, physical exercise, food, then sitting down in a dark room... I would be sleeping too...

I say anyone who has never suffered a case of SHBS - Sleepy Head-Bobbing Syndrome - is lying their ass off.


:shots::zzz:

thunderkyss
10-16-2009, 05:31 AM
This is why Kubes will be Former Houston Texans head coach GARY KUBIAK.


I'm not on the "Fire Kubiak" band-wagon.... but I do agree that progress has been slower than I anticipated..... kinda. I expected to be a winning franchise in our 4th year, and the 4th year isn't over yet.

But yes, this may explain why progress has been slow. You would think this would not be allowed in an organization that says it wants to go to the Super Bowl, especially with the results we've seen for the last 5 weeks.

That said.... I've been in supervision before... & with "unions" & other red-tape, sometimes you've got to feed the employee rope.

JDizzle
10-16-2009, 09:39 AM
I actually just fell asleep in this thread. True story.

Hardcore Texan
10-16-2009, 09:59 AM
In my tech school in the Air Force and in classes in basic it was HARD not to fall asleep because they work you so hard. You were instructed that if you started feeling sleepy to get up and go to the back of the room and stand during the class. I had to do this a few times. Falling asleep was much, much worse if you got caught.

Texan_Bill
10-16-2009, 10:10 AM
Hard work beats
talent when talent
doesn't work hard

:thinking:

threeputtsam
10-16-2009, 10:16 AM
Kubiak would be better off shortening the meetings and keeping the players alert. If players are sleeping in meetings, there's a good chance they'll be sleep walking during games. Look and sound familiar? Kubiak should have all the players in the meeting room run sprints and gassers when one of them is caught sleeping.

El Tejano
10-16-2009, 10:31 AM
In my tech school in the Air Force and in classes in basic it was HARD not to fall asleep because they work you so hard. You were instructed that if you started feeling sleepy to get up and go to the back of the room and stand during the class. I had to do this a few times. Falling asleep was much, much worse if you got caught.

Oh man I remember all of that. Even during boot they taught us that. There would always be like 6-7 guys standing up.

P.S. What's your 6 word reporting statement?

GP
10-16-2009, 11:25 AM
Kubiak would be better off shortening the meetings and keeping the players alert. If players are sleeping in meetings, there's a good chance they'll be sleep walking during games. Look and sound familiar? Kubiak should have all the players in the meeting room run sprints and gassers when one of them is caught sleeping.

I am wondering if maybe this team is having TOO many meetings, and TOO much time just sitting through speeches and instruction by coaches.

The Texas Rangers, in the offseason, did away with the L-shaped protective screen for pitchers during batting practice. Nolan Ryan started making them throw live pitches to batters. The result was the pitchers stayed out on the mound 4 or 5 times MORE in length of time as compared to when they were just throwing behind the screen. Pitchers started working on their stuff, and batters started trying to identify pitches and figure how to hit the pitches that have been pestering them.

In short: Live bullets. Competition. Action. Sharpening your sword.

If Kubiak is running this team to the point where guys are consistently sleeping, and only the bright-eyed rookies are paying attention, then cut the meetings and hit the field. Switch stuff up. Have meetings earlier, and practice later (when the day has worn down and you're getting mentally tired).

This team has exhibited a glacial pace at everything: Figuring out that Bulman and DelJuan Robinson just might be playing better, consistently, than TJ and Okoye. Starting games late and spotting teams a lot of points, before finally coming alive and then having to pull off a comeback in the 4th. Letting Richard Smith stay as long as he was permitted to stay.

There's no telling how much time and energy and focus is being lost by the things they do behind the scenes all week. The guys who are falling asleep might have a point.

Despite the improvement in offensive production, which is attributed to Kubiak and Schaub and the role playing by the rest of our offense, there's not much going for Kubiak to think that this is the guy who has a killer instinct and can win a title or two.

I loathe this team one day, and have hope for it the next. (sigh)....

It's hard to be an agent for change, like Cushing might think he's trying to be, when time wears you down. It's easy to go in, at the start, and fire all your guns at once. But what happens when you figure out that you can't affect change in a large organization? My education has taught me that it takes more than one Cushing to affect change in THAT sort of environment. Every effort you make is undercut by 21,000 other little miserable aspects about the dysfunctional organization.

This team is the poster child for dysfunctional teams: Looks good on the outside (much like a well-dressed kid who makes good grades) but torn apart on the inside (disillusioned kid who hates his family).

Hardcore Texan
10-16-2009, 11:36 AM
Oh man I remember all of that. Even during boot they taught us that. There would always be like 6-7 guys standing up.

P.S. What's your 6 word reporting statement?

You just brought back a lot of memories with that... ones I thought I had blocked out. :) "Sir, Airman xxxxxxx reports as ordered."

badboy
10-16-2009, 11:50 AM
Let's be serious here. A cheap rug from WalMart and a one hour sleepy time nap would make a world of difference. Has anyone seen my sippy cup? Oh wait, I left it next to my binky.

Dr2bKay
10-16-2009, 12:10 PM
No offense, but c'mon man. I worked 40+ hours a week while going to night school for most of my college career and I can say that I never fell asleep in class. I wanted to on many occasions and in classes where the professor had obviously phoned it in, I really considered it. Never did it though, I always thought it was lazy and disrespectful.

The best professors I had in school would never have tolerated someone falling asleep in their classroom and it surprises me that this actually goes on under Kubiaks watch or in the NFL at all.

I only had one of my college students attempt to fall asleep during my lectures...I politely tapped them on the shoulder and told them to go home....I agree it is very rude and disrespectful to sleep during a meeting.

El Tejano
10-16-2009, 12:16 PM
You just brought back a lot of memories with that... ones I thought I had blocked out. :) "Sir, Airman xxxxxxx reports as ordered."

Correct!!!! You will never be able to block that out!!! I remember saying my prayers at night and starting with that statement out of habit. It was washed into my mind.

jppaul
10-16-2009, 12:24 PM
I only had one of my college students attempt to fall asleep during my lectures...I politely tapped them on the shoulder and told them to go home....I agree it is very rude and disrespectful to sleep during a meeting.

Next time duct tape his or her head to the desk...:wild::splits:

TimeKiller
10-16-2009, 12:36 PM
One of my middle school teachers would slap the bottom of the desk of whoever had their head down...pretty hard too, some people were tempted to call it abuse. I just called it hilarious.

In drum corps we would wake up with the sun, group stretch, unload the equipment truck, practice until lunch, eat for an hour, practice until we had to reload the truck, drive to wherever the show was, unload again, warm up and play the show, load the truck again and by that time it was 10pm. Usually were on the move 16 or so hours a day and really only slept about 6, if you could fall asleep right away on a moving charter bus. I'm not saying the activity was as tough as football, I'm saying it was a hell of an activity and it's not like you could sleep with 110 horns and a drumline blasting at you. My first day back I slept for 18 hours straight, not even taking any Nyquil or anything.

El Tejano
10-16-2009, 01:27 PM
If you look at all the things that Cushing was doing, let's add that to the list of the things most of the vets have to do. Plus, let's also add all the appearances they have to make during the day in between practices to schools, news programs, radio programs. Driving back and forth all day and then coming in to a nice air conditioned darkened room. Yeah, you all would stay awake every day.

Let's not take for granted that Cushing laid in a hyperbaric chamber for an hour. Think he didn't dose off in there?

SheTexan
10-16-2009, 02:37 PM
Hummmm! All this time I've been blaming Kubiak for not having his team prepared! MY BAD!! As the old saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink", applies here. Seems like some of our guys just don't to win bad enough! Complacence should not be toterated on any level!!! All the blame cannot fall on Kubaik if this is happening. Where's his coaches? They should be in those rooms slapping those guys silly if they fall asleep. A HUGE fine should be issued to anyone who snoozes!!

BTW: Where I work it's grounds for immediate termination, NO second chances!

mussop
10-16-2009, 02:57 PM
Hummmm! All this time I've been blaming Kubiak for not having his team prepared! MY BAD!! As the old saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink", applies here. Seems like some of our guys just don't to win bad enough! Complacence should not be toterated on any level!!! All the blame cannot fall on Kubaik if this is happening. Where's his coaches? They should be in those rooms slapping those guys silly if they fall asleep. A HUGE fine should be issued to anyone who snoozes!!

BTW: Where I work it's grounds for immediate termination, NO second chances!

WHY NOT? He is the head coach. He has control over this if he sees fit. Ultimatly it is he who is responsible. This is just more proof we need a sterner hand running this team.

Double Barrel
10-16-2009, 03:04 PM
For all of you who thinks this happens everywhere all the time, honestly ask yourself if think players fall asleep on team meetings led by Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Bill Cowher, etc.

I think y'all are assuming way too much.

But I do agree in some regards. This happens all the time...on mediocre teams. :ok:

CloakNNNdagger
10-16-2009, 03:44 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:zJGunHw1LzcwDM:http://ww1.huntingdon.edu/jlewis/Studs/201/08/PattersonDavisAsleepInClass78e.jpg

I'm not LAZY, I'm MOTIVATIONALLY CHALLENGED. Luckily, no one will notice...........I fit nicely right in with the the rest of this organization.

HoustonFrog
10-16-2009, 04:29 PM
I'm not saying this happens BUT what can happen is early in a coaches tenure, the talent level isn't up to snuff and you are trying to win to justify a contract so you let things slide. So instead of doing something like Del Rio did with Sims-Walker last week and suspending a player a game for missing a meeting, you let then walk so you can have your best talent on the field. Then when you get some talent you have already set a standard that ends up haunting you. Just a guess. I know Jimmy Johnson and the guys DB mentioned wouldn't put up with this crap.

Marcus
10-16-2009, 04:32 PM
I think y'all are assuming way too much.

I totally agree.

Texan_Bill
10-16-2009, 04:33 PM
In my tech school in the Air Force and in classes in basic it was HARD not to fall asleep because they work you so hard. You were instructed that if you started feeling sleepy to get up and go to the back of the room and stand during the class. I had to do this a few times. Falling asleep was much, much worse if you got caught.

Same thing in the Army. :zzz:


I stood a lot.

Texan_Bill
10-16-2009, 04:38 PM
For all of you who thinks this happens everywhere all the time, honestly ask yourself if think players fall asleep on team meetings led by Bill Parcells, Bill Belichick, Tom Coughlin, Bill Cowher, etc.

I think y'all are assuming way too much.

But I do agree in some regards. This happens all the time...on mediocre teams. :ok:

If I can nod off while a Drill Sergeant is talking, I could nod off with Bill Parcells talking.

Bill Cowher? Probably not, the shower would keep me awake.

76Texan
10-16-2009, 04:47 PM
I think this happened with the Ravens when Tim Green was allowed to stay with the team for an extended period of time to write a book.

Vinny
10-16-2009, 04:51 PM
Guys will fall asleep in meetings from time to time but what I have a big problem with is when Bob McNair brings the sleepers their binky and a pillow when they fall asleep. That stuff has got to stop.

Runner
10-16-2009, 05:16 PM
Do we even know it was a Kubiak meeting?

Texan_Bill
10-16-2009, 05:19 PM
Do we even know it was a Kubiak meeting?

No, we don't.

I would bet anyone donuts to dollars that it wasn't Joe Marciano's meeting.

GP
10-16-2009, 05:34 PM
Guys will fall asleep in meetings from time to time but what I have a big problem with is when Bob McNair brings the sleepers their binky and a pillow when they fall asleep. That stuff has got to stop.

He hasn't been in the locker room lately. Or he'd see how bad it's become. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65894)

CloakNNNdagger
10-16-2009, 06:01 PM
Hummmm! All this time I've been blaming Kubiak for not having his team prepared! MY BAD!! As the old saying goes, "you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink", applies here. Seems like some of our guys just don't to win bad enough! Complacence should not be toterated on any level!!! All the blame cannot fall on Kubaik if this is happening. Where's his coaches? They should be in those rooms slapping those guys silly if they fall asleep. A HUGE fine should be issued to anyone who snoozes!!

BTW: Where I work it's grounds for immediate termination, NO second chances!

If I'd fall asleep in surgery, no doubt that would happen to me too.:mcnugget:

Texan_Bill
10-16-2009, 06:03 PM
If I'd fall asleep in surgery, no doubt that would happen to me too.:mcnugget:

You have malpractice insurance, no? :hides:

CloakNNNdagger
10-16-2009, 06:16 PM
You have malpractice insurance, no? :hides:


Yeh, but I'd have to raffle it off and then some, to cover the sky falling on me if I pulled something like that.

Texan_Bill
10-16-2009, 06:19 PM
Yeh, but I'd have to raffle it off and then some, to cover the sky falling on me if I pulled something like that.

No doubt. I couldn't even imagine. :choke:

disaacks3
10-16-2009, 06:26 PM
If you look at all the things that Cushing was doing, let's add that to the list of the things most of the vets have to do. Plus, let's also add all the appearances they have to make during the day in between practices to schools, news programs, radio programs. Driving back and forth all day and then coming in to a nice air conditioned darkened room. Yeah, you all would stay awake every day.

Let's not take for granted that Cushing laid in a hyperbaric chamber for an hour. Think he didn't dose off in there?
Uhm....yeah. Do you think the other 31 teams in the league don't do the same stuff "our guys" do WITHOUT dozing off?

Vets don't "have" to do 1/2 the things you mentioned...they CHOOSE to. We all prioritize what is important to US. When our own players all said (to a man) that the only difference between how they played in the first half and the second half last week was "focus", it's time for some a**-whooping attitude adjustment.

Wolf
10-16-2009, 06:46 PM
If a player is doing too much extracurricular activities, i.e. appearances, then a player needs to re-evaluate the priorities and slow some of the extra stuff down. Esp if he is blowing assignments on the field. If he isn't blowing assignments on the field and doing his thing, some one needs to come forward on this team and address the issue of sleeping in the film room with a coach or with the team captain. The issue should be addressed with the team as a whole in a non-finger pointing way. If it is a specific player doing it time and time again, It should be addressed behind closed doors away from the other teammates in a professional matter with the basis of , lets get this problem fixed and if it doesn't get fixed, player needs to be released or traded.

I can't help but think that potentially a player or two was asleep when the coaches were going over the assignments on the Adrian Peterson run.. and then we had Jones do the same damn thing to the defense and while we follow that up with CJ having a career day with another run on about the same type of play...

If i want to flip it, what if it was an Offensive lineman or RB fellasleep during film session on assignments on blocking .. only to miss his assignment in the game and Schaub gets blasted and knocked out because of injury ...Guys are a team and need to work as a unit and if one part breaks down.. well we have seen what happens

If it is a "depth" player.. he needs a starter waking his ass up.. every player is one injury away from either knocked out of the game or moving up the depth chart.

with what has been mentioned here and the other thread about someone saying that one of our players is apathetic (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums//showthread.php?t=65835)

Kubiak needs to put the hammer down on the coaches and players for accountability.

I feel the chain of command should be if player "x" is sleeping , the players next to him should take some pride in the team and nudge him to wake up. they are all in this together. In a dark room, I imagine the coaches can't see the players while going over the film (I have never been close to a session) , so first step is players helping players, now being this attention has been drawn out in the open, coaches need to take some action.


sorry about the long rant

Double Barrel
10-16-2009, 06:57 PM
I'll be honest, I feel like dozing off during some Texans games...especially if we have a lead going into the second half because Kubiak goes into 'play not to lose / protect the lead' mode which is boring as anything.

I told my buddy during halftime at the Oakland game to not be surprised if we don't score at all during the next two quarters, and we didn't. Predictable. :sleep:

CloakNNNdagger
10-16-2009, 07:04 PM
You know that someone from the organization is going to read this thread. Hopefully, for placing it on a blog, we don't find Cushing on the bench with a "mysterious" non-onfield injury.........and me right next to him with a set of crutches, for posting it.:choke:

Marcus
10-16-2009, 08:05 PM
You know that someone from the organization is going to read this thread. Hopefully, for placing it on a blog, we don't find Cushing on the bench with a "mysterious" non-onfield injury.........and me right next to him with a set of crutches, for posting it.:choke:

That's a very good point, Cloak. All this BS about certain players "sleeping in meetings", and certain "DTs being apathetic" might be good batting-around material with frustrated fans on some football message board, but I don't think it will go over well with the players themselves. Whether it's Dunta or whoever, or Cushing, these guys all need to not air their dirty laundry in public and keep their goddamn mouths shut.

You can talk all you want about being a team, but nothing will disrupt it more than someone being a snitch.

Speedy
10-16-2009, 08:35 PM
Sleep on your own time, not on company time.

4Texans
10-16-2009, 09:11 PM
I'm sure that players do doze off during meetings, and especially during film sessions. I find it hard to believe that the coaches, whether it's Kubiak or other assistants, are going to let a player get away with SLEEPING in a team meeting. I think some of you are reading too much into Cushings statement. If anything, maybe some of these guys need more sleep if they're too tired to get one yard for a TD, or cover a gap to stop the run. :zzz: