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Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 07:48 PM
Just read on Raider forums that Nnamdi Asomugha might be up for a trade. So far, they are just rumors, although earlier this video was released:

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=54be0c79-98ee-4df0-b69e-b0476611a90e

Not sure what to make of this. Its odd, but I wouldn't be disappointed at all if Nnamdi was traded. He'd have a good chance to win a ring at almost any other team. Also, the players/picks we could receive by trading him may help turn this dysfunctional franchise around. Its a win-win...and as much as I wished Aso could win a ring in the silver & black...its seeming less likely as each week passes.


What are you guys thoughts on this? Would you want the Texans to go after Nnamdi?

jaayteetx
10-12-2009, 07:49 PM
Nope, price would be too high for just one player. We need more than that.

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 07:54 PM
His contract with the Raiders (from wikipedia...but I am fairly sure it is accurate)

The first two years, worth $28.5 million, are fully guaranteed. In the third year of the contract, if Oakland wants to keep Asomugha, it must pay him the average of the top five highest-paid "quarterbacks" or $16.875 million, whichever is higher.

A team would need to be in dire need of a playmaker on D to consider taking that contract...maybe it could be restructured...as crazy as it may seem to you, from what I know from Nnamdi over the years...he may very well do it. He offered to restructure his contract if DeAngelo Hall could stay...so yeah, anything is possible with Aso.

JCTexan
10-12-2009, 07:57 PM
Just read on Raider forums that Nnamdi Asomugha might be up for a trade. So far, they are just rumors, although earlier this video was released:

http://msn.foxsports.com/video?vid=54be0c79-98ee-4df0-b69e-b0476611a90e

Not sure what to make of this. Its odd, but I wouldn't be disappointed at all if Nnamdi was traded. He'd have a good chance to win a ring at almost any other team. Also, the players/picks we could receive by trading him may help turn this dysfunctional franchise around. Its a win-win...and as much as I wished Aso could win a ring in the silver & black...its seeming less likely as each week passes.


What are you guys thoughts on this? Would you want the Texans to go after Nnamdi?

Quick answer: Yes. He's the best corner in the league, and the Texans have had a weak secondary. He instantly makes this team better.

Second Honeymoon
10-12-2009, 08:03 PM
I would trade next year's 1st Rounder for Aso in a heartbeat. A price higher than that would have to be thought out long and hard.

I would maybe go for a 1st Rounder in 2010 draft and a 4th Rounder in 2011 that would turn into a 3rd Rounder if the Texans made the playoffs this year or next.

I am sure the Raiders are asking for a 1st and a 2nd though.

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 08:05 PM
Aso has a rep that may even be greater then his actual ability. Not that that is a bad thing though, no QB willingly wants to throw the ball his way. I can guarantee that he will be a HoFer when he's done...and if the Texans do land him...wow...he may be all you guys need to finally get things going.

I don't follow the Texans nearly as much as you guys do, but from what I do know, your D gives up way too many points. With Aso, you guys may finally be able to avoid those close games which end up in a shoot-out (i.e. the Titans game).

TheCD
10-12-2009, 08:13 PM
We probably would never think about it or even get a chance at him...but if we could trade him for Dunta, plus picks (1st or 2nd this year plus 2nd or 3rd the next?) AND have the ability to restructure Aso's contract, it might be a win-win for both teams in terms of us having a final answer for Dunta.

AustinJB
10-12-2009, 08:14 PM
I would trade next year's 1st Rounder for Aso in a heartbeat. A price higher than that would have to be thought out long and hard.

I would maybe go for a 1st Rounder in 2010 draft and a 4th Rounder in 2011 that would turn into a 3rd Rounder if the Texans made the playoffs this year or next.

I am sure the Raiders are asking for a 1st and a 2nd though.

Think we could sell DRob & a 2nd to Evil Al?

Wolf
10-12-2009, 08:15 PM
Hell with Al, he'd probably trade him to the Pats for a 4th :gun:

Ckw
10-12-2009, 08:17 PM
Man you guys are crazy. I would trade a 1st and a 3rd and never look back. The guy is legit and shutdown corners are one of the hardest things to find in this league.

The best deal though would be Dunta and a 1st. THAT would be awesome.

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 08:18 PM
Hell with Al, he'd probably trade him to the Pats for a 4th :gun:

I'm pretty sure even Al wouldn't be crazy enough to do that.........again... :splits:

brakos82
10-12-2009, 08:23 PM
I'm pretty sure even Al wouldn't be crazy enough to do that.........again... :splits:

Yeah... umm... how's that 73rd ranked safety doing? :peek:

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 08:27 PM
You talking about Bowie, the person we got with the 4th rd pick? Well...he's not on the Raiders anymore...so in a sense, the Raiders gave away Moss for free :choke:.

He did have a 4.36 40 time though...

Marcus
10-12-2009, 08:27 PM
You'd have to give up Andre Johnson to get Nnamdi Asomugha.

So how about we close this thread right now.

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 08:34 PM
Wouldn't matter if we did get AJ, not like we have a QB that could throw the ball to him. From what I gather, Al has finally realized that he needs to stop drafing projects and needs to get NFL ready players...but I am guessing instead of draft picks, Davis will ask for players instead. If Davis was smart, he'd shop for a QB. Keyword...IF...

Ckw
10-12-2009, 08:49 PM
Wouldn't matter if we did get AJ, not like we have a QB that could throw the ball to him. From what I gather, Al has finally realized that he needs to stop drafing projects and needs to get NFL ready players...but I am guessing instead of draft picks, Davis will ask for players instead. If Davis was smart, he'd shop for a QB. Keyword...IF...

Call me crazy but I'd consider giving up Schaub for Aso.

Carr Bombed
10-12-2009, 08:52 PM
Call me crazy but I'd consider giving up Schaub for Aso.

You're crazy...:)


Seriously though, who would QB this team? Gross-man lol. By the time we find and develop another legit starting QB, both AJ and our newly acquired Aso would be on decline or ready to leave.

Save the picks/players and draft a CB in the first round..(either that or offer that 1st round pick + a third for Aso...I wouldn't give up our starting QB though)..well, we'll probably take a safety round one, but who knows with Dunta most likely gone at the end of the season.

NitroGSXR
10-12-2009, 09:04 PM
Call me crazy but I'd consider giving up Schaub for Aso.

Absolutely must be considered. A straight up swap no but we could consider a package deal. We have to worry about resigning Schaub after this season. Picking up option or whatever it exactly was.

Marcus
10-12-2009, 09:31 PM
Al Davis is stupid, not retarded.

Schaub, Demeco, and a 1st rounder for Nnamdi,

Kaiser Toro
10-12-2009, 09:33 PM
Dunta and a 2nd for Aso and Bush.

Marcus
10-12-2009, 09:35 PM
Dunta and a 2nd for Aso and Bush.

:spit:

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 09:35 PM
No way you guys would get Aso AND Bush for Dunta and a 2nd. Like Marcus said, Davis isn't retarded.:cowboy1:

Kaiser Toro
10-12-2009, 09:40 PM
No way you guys would get Aso AND Bush for Dunta and a 2nd. Like Marcus said, Davis isn't retarded.:cowboy1:

That would be good to know in order to get a baseline for Dunta's market value. Regardless, Smith needs to be on the phone with someone over there.

brakos82
10-12-2009, 09:45 PM
It's all moot anyways, Aso's one of 5-6 players on their "safe" list.

Marcus
10-12-2009, 09:46 PM
That would be good to know in order to get a baseline for Dunta's market value. Regardless, Smith needs to be on the phone with someone over there.

Dunta has market value ??

lol: You're killing me.tonite, KT, will you please stop?

steelbtexan
10-12-2009, 09:47 PM
I would give a 2010 1st and 3rd

and a 2011 2nd for Aso

McNair wii never approve a deal for Aso. McNair wont take on Aso's contract.

Uncle BoB likes his money

Kulluminatii
10-12-2009, 09:52 PM
It's all moot anyways, Aso's one of 5-6 players on their "safe" list.

A few days ago I would have agreed with you, but I'm not so sure anymore.

"Several teams told me this week they received calls from the Raiders, Raiders personnel people saying Al Davis was so frustrated after last weeks game, he asked his personnel people to call around and basically saying, who do you want. Anybody on our roster except for the really young talented guys. Anybody else, who do you want on our roster, they're up for sale." I think its safe to say Aso would be included in this, but if Davis is going to these lengths...I'm sure he's open to some offers.

kastofsna
10-13-2009, 12:32 AM
i'm not even sure how you win in a trade like this as the Raiders. no matter what draft picks you'd get in return, you'll just blow it on awful picks.

Kulluminatii
10-13-2009, 12:57 AM
Just because we have had awful picks the last 3-4 years, doesn't mean we'll have an awful pick this time around :spin:.

If Al decides to get draft picks instead of proven players, then I would suspect that we would try and get Taylor Mays with our #3-4 pick (yeah, I think the Raiders will have the 3rd or 4th pick in the draft) and then with our other pick we might pick up Locker if he enters the draft. Thats just wishful thinking though. I don't follow college football all that much, but I have been hearing about a DT named Suh...he may be a possible pick as well if the other ones don't go through.

silvrhand
10-13-2009, 01:48 AM
Dump Dunta, recruit Aso.. win win..

RagingBull
10-13-2009, 02:04 AM
Texans have about 10.4 million in free cap space.

http://www.inthebullseye.com/cap2009.html

Sounds about right.

I would give up 2010 first and 2011 second round.

Carr Bombed
10-13-2009, 02:28 AM
McNair wii never approve a deal for Aso. McNair wont take on Aso's contract.

Uncle BoB likes his money

Seriously......where do you get this crap from?

Showtime100
10-13-2009, 02:43 AM
Al Davis is stupid, not retarded.

Schaub, Demeco, and a 1st rounder for Nnamdi,

This might be true, but the retarder on his stupidity doesn't work. I'd throw DRob out there straight up and go from there.

Goatcheese
10-13-2009, 03:59 AM
How much of Aso's contract is bonus money that stays on Oakland's books?

If most of his contract really is guarantees and bonus money the Texans might only have to pay the actual salary:

2009: $4.5 million, 2010: $755,000, 2011: $2.105 million (Club Option), 2012: $3.455 million (Voidable Years), 2013: $4.805 million, 2014: $6.155 million, 2015: Free Agent

playa465
10-13-2009, 04:43 AM
Aso is a very good CB...and he is light years better than what we have...BUT all I can think about is what happened the last time we made a trade with the Raiders for a CB...remember that? :whistle:

beerlover
10-13-2009, 06:22 AM
The Raider franchise means alot to the NFL, if a deal was not favorable to them me thinks the league office would not give a seal of approval. I would keep my distance from them despite how great Aso is or how badly the Texans need to enforce the secondary. So the Texans would get fleeced, it would take Dunta Robinson, DeMeco Ryans & a 1st rd. pick. I'm not touching that with a 10 ft. pole :polevault:

Showtime100
10-13-2009, 06:32 AM
The Raider franchise means alot to the NFL, if a deal was not favorable to them me thinks the league office would not give a seal of approval. I would keep my distance from them despite how great Aso is or how badly the Texans need to enforce the secondary. So the Texans would get fleeced, it would take Dunta Robinson, DeMeco Ryans & a 1st rd. pick. I'm not touching that with a 10 ft. pole :polevault:

I don't follow in the slightest. Actually, the whole post makes no sense.

GuerillaBlack
10-13-2009, 09:30 AM
I would do Dunta and a 2010 or 2011 second. Or keep Dunta and trade Bennett plus a first this year and second next year. Bad GM?

El Tejano
10-13-2009, 10:47 AM
I would do Jacoby Jones and a 1st for Aso. Hey Al, we know you like receivers. This one is an up and comer. In our first three games, he had two receiving TDs and in our 4th game he returned a kick. In our last game he even got us back in the game with a long return of his own.

Based on how your team played us, you need guys that can catch and I can tell you that Jacoby is far better than anything you got resembling a WR right now.

Goatcheese
10-13-2009, 10:57 AM
I would do Jacoby Jones and a 1st for Aso. Hey Al, we know you like receivers. This one is an up and comer. In our first three games, he had two receiving TDs and in our 4th game he returned a kick. In our last game he even got us back in the game with a long return of his own.

Based on how your team played us, you need guys that can catch and I can tell you that Jacoby is far better than anything you got resembling a WR right now.

A poke in the eye is better than a kick in the nuts too, but that's not really saying much. :heart:

gtexan02
10-13-2009, 12:28 PM
I would rather trade 2011s 2nd rounder and 2010s 1st rounder to move up in this years draft to take Berry or Mays.

TheRealJoker
10-13-2009, 12:48 PM
Dunta and a conditional 2nd (could become a first if we make the playoffs) for Aso.

Goldensilence
10-13-2009, 12:54 PM
Dunta and Next year's first. You're not going to get a better corner in the first.

JDizzle
10-13-2009, 01:26 PM
Screw this thread for getting my hopes up.

4Texans
10-13-2009, 01:44 PM
IF, we were to get Aso somehow, then you have to know that D Rob is gone either in a trade or via FA. There is no way he will stick around and be happy or content knowing that another CB on the Texans is making all that money and he is not. And the Texans will not tie up that much money in CB's.

HOU-TEX
10-13-2009, 02:13 PM
IF, we were to get Aso somehow, then you have to know that D Rob is gone either in a trade or via FA. There is no way he will stick around and be happy or content knowing that another CB on the Texans is making all that money and he is not. And the Texans will not tie up that much money in CB's.

And I'd have no problem with that. I like Dunta, but he couldn't hold Aso's jock much less cover like him.

I've made it known that I truly do not like trading draft picks, but I'd definitely consider trading for Aso...in a freakin heartbeat!

It'll never happen though. :spin:

steelbtexan
10-13-2009, 02:31 PM
Seriously......where do you get this crap from?

Uncle BoB is cheap IMO.

The Texans have never gone after a top tier FA or traded for a top tier player who's making alot of money.

This trend will continue.

Along with 7-9, 8-8 and 9-7 records.

Feel free to disagree with me but cite some examples of uncle BoB spending top dollar on players or the coaching staff.

Uncle BoB gave Winston a good deal but not a break the bank deal.

I bet Dunta,Ryans and Daniels woud agree with me.

rollinstone18
10-13-2009, 02:45 PM
rex grossman and fred bennett for aso.

:bubbles:

Hardcore Texan
10-13-2009, 03:14 PM
Uncle BoB is cheap IMO.

The Texans have never gone after a top tier FA or traded for a top tier player who's making alot of money.

This trend will continue.

Along with 7-9, 8-8 and 9-7 records.

Feel free to disagree with me but cite some examples of uncle BoB spending top dollar on players or the coaching staff.

Uncle BoB gave Winston a good deal but not a break the bank deal.

I bet Dunta,Ryans and Daniels woud agree with me.


At the time the trade for Schaub was pretty big. He was considered about the best back up QB in the leauge that could be a starter anywhere. :turtle:

badboy
10-13-2009, 03:49 PM
His contract with the Raiders (from wikipedia...but I am fairly sure it is accurate)



A team would need to be in dire need of a playmaker on D to consider taking that contract...maybe it could be restructured...as crazy as it may seem to you, from what I know from Nnamdi over the years...he may very well do it. He offered to restructure his contract if DeAngelo Hall could stay...so yeah, anything is possible with Aso.We are paying DR $10 million with a projected $13-14 next season if he is franchised again & that is $23-24. ASO may well agree to re-structure to get him out of Cleveland.

BigBull17
10-13-2009, 03:49 PM
I would rather trade 2011s 2nd rounder and 2010s 1st rounder to move up in this years draft to take Berry or Mays.

Sorry, I'd rather have Nambi. He is proven to be a freakin stud, Mays and Berry haven't done it yet. Don't get me wrong, I like Berry and Mays, but he's a little better.

Kulluminatii
10-13-2009, 03:55 PM
We are paying DR $10 million with a projected $13-14 next season if he is franchised again & that is $23-24. ASO may well agree to re-structure to get him out of Cleveland.

Now the Raiders are being mistaken for the Browns?!?!:crying:

badboy
10-13-2009, 04:41 PM
Now the Raiders are being mistaken for the Browns?!?!:crying:Pretty stupid. I'm blushing. Had to read it twice to see Cleveland. Seriously, though it seems as if you are saying Davis wants to improve with veterans rather than picks which have not been very successful in his past. I'd rather keep our draft picks as we select pretty well. If this deal was to be made, I agree that DR would have to go. Could he be convinced that Davis would give him the long time deal that he seeks? He knows Davis stepped up and offered a very high contract to ASO. DR is not as good but could he get a proportional deal?

Raiders get:

A) Dunta Robinson gives Oakland a motivated starting CB who has played better every game. Cheaper than ASO & one year younger.
B) Amobi Okoye D.T. replaces Gerard Warren 31yoa. The Raider back up is rookie Desmont Bryant who has looked lost so far this season.
C) Conner Barwin DE/LB same role as Texans
With first pick Raiders select Suh and now have a defense.

Houston gets:
A) Asomugha best CB in NFL 28 yoa 6'2" 210 especially if he re-does deal.
B) Gerard Warren DT/NT 6'4" 330 31 yoa but can anchor line for two years & more importantly stops the run.
Texans keep all draft picks & can disregard DT and CB for two years unless Quinn regresses. Reeves, ASO & Quinn. Losing Barwin will irritate some but you have to give up something.

steelbtexan
10-13-2009, 08:59 PM
Pretty stupid. I'm blushing. Had to read it twice to see Cleveland. Seriously, though it seems as if you are saying Davis wants to improve with veterans rather than picks which have not been very successful in his past. I'd rather keep our draft picks as we select pretty well. If this deal was to be made, I agree that DR would have to go. Could he be convinced that Davis would give him the long time deal that he seeks? He knows Davis stepped up and offered a very high contract to ASO. DR is not as good but could he get a proportional deal?

Raiders get:

A) Dunta Robinson gives Oakland a motivated starting CB who has played better every game. Cheaper than ASO & one year younger.
B) Amobi Okoye D.T. replaces Gerard Warren 31yoa. The Raider back up is rookie Desmont Bryant who has looked lost so far this season.
C) Conner Barwin DE/LB same role as Texans
With first pick Raiders select Suh and now have a defense.

Houston gets:
A) Asomugha best CB in NFL 28 yoa 6'2" 210 especially if he re-does deal.
B) Gerard Warren DT/NT 6'4" 330 31 yoa but can anchor line for two years & more importantly stops the run.
Texans keep all draft picks & can disregard DT and CB for two years unless Quinn regresses. Reeves, ASO & Quinn. Losing Barwin will irritate some but you have to give up something.

I would do this deal in a heartbeat. ASO is the best CB in the NFL right now.

It would hurt to give up Barwin but I would do it

Next years draft is deep at the DE position. I would sign a DT in FA and draft the best DE I could get my hands on in the 1st or 2nd rds.

This trade would allow Smithiak to use a high pick on a S that everybody has been clamoring for.

The defense would be complete. The rest of the draft rds. 3-7 could be used to fortify the OL and RB that everybody wants.

Texecutioner
10-13-2009, 09:06 PM
Sorry, I'd rather have Nambi. He is proven to be a freakin stud, Mays and Berry haven't done it yet. Don't get me wrong, I like Berry and Mays, but he's a little better.

Yeah, I think you make a good point. That's the one thing about trading a first round pick. You have the ability to know if the guy is worth what you're trading for which is that number one pick vs a stud that has never played in the NFL and proven anything. If you can get a for sure stud like Nambi, and it's at a position of need, then it's almost a no brainer as long as he's fairly young and you can afford the contract. There are so many first round busts at every position when you think about it. Nambi would easily be worth a first rounder on any team that needs a shut down corner.

ObsiWan
10-13-2009, 09:10 PM
Somehow I think Asomugha is on the "young & talented" list.
While I'd LOVE to have him here, I just don't think Asomugha is on the "available" list. If he is, the line to snag him would be around the block. We'd have to outbid everybody to get him.

However, I would make a play for Richard Seymour. That's an instant upgrade to our run defense and adds Super Bowl experience/leadership to a team still trying to learn how to win. Maybe we give Al a 3rd and that 4th we got for Sage. If Al's really cleaning house, maybe we get away with just a 3rd.


I like the Gerald Warren idea too. Anything that bolsters up our defensive line.

If he's cleaning house, I wonder if Michael Huff is on the "he can go too" list.
I would offer picks. I don't have the heart to exile anyone out to Oakland. ...not even Dunta has pissed me off that much.
:ahhaha:

Kulluminatii
10-13-2009, 10:04 PM
While picking up Seymour was great, I don't know what Al was thinking in trade a first rounder for him. No way he renews his contract in Oakland, so maybe Al has realized this and Seymour will be up for sale as well.

Can't believe I'm at the point where I want the good players on my team to be traded...I would never wish death on anyone...but dammit...Al is pushing it.:bat:

*EDIT*
http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/10/12/around-the-league-raiders-making-trade-calls/

As the trade deadline approaches on Oct. 20, Lombardi notes that the Raiders have called “a lot of teams” and everyone is available with the exception of about five or six players, a group that includes CB Nnamdi Asomugah and QB JaMarcus Russell. “The Raiders want to shake it up, and certainly, they should,” Lombardi said. “They’re 1-4, they’re pathetic offensively. They need to do something to kind of stimulate and change the culture of the football team.”

Well...guess that puts the rumor to rest. No one would want Russell, and since Davis seems to have a hard-on for him, it was a given he wasn't going to be traded. I'm surprised though, only 5-6 players Davis wants to keep, I would guess Heyward-Bey and McFadden are the two others. Thats four players that won't be traded...I wonder who the other one(or two) is.

kastofsna
10-13-2009, 10:13 PM
it's more Russell's contract that would keep him from being traded, i imagine

Kulluminatii
10-13-2009, 10:18 PM
I would guess him having a league-worst 42% completion won't help matters much either :spin:.

TEXANS84
10-14-2009, 09:23 AM
I would guess him having a league-worst 42% completion won't help matters much either :spin:.

Crazy considering the Raiders franchise holds the 2 game scoring record of 95 total points.

Kulluminatii
10-14-2009, 10:39 AM
The Raiders franchise was great. Keyword being was :deadhorse.

badboy
10-14-2009, 11:14 AM
Somehow I think Asomugha is on the "young & talented" list.
While I'd LOVE to have him here, I just don't think Asomugha is on the "available" list. If he is, the line to snag him would be around the block. We'd have to outbid everybody to get him.
However, I would make a play for Richard Seymour. That's an instant upgrade to our run defense and adds Super Bowl experience/leadership to a team still trying to learn how to win. Maybe we give Al a 3rd and that 4th we got for Sage. If Al's really cleaning house, maybe we get away with just a 3rd.


I like the Gerald Warren idea too. Anything that bolsters up our defensive line.

If he's cleaning house, I wonder if Michael Huff is on the "he can go too" list.
I would offer picks. I don't have the heart to exile anyone out to Oakland. ...not even Dunta has pissed me off that much.
:ahhaha:Why would you want a 30 yoa DE rather than Smith? Seymour has 2 sacks but Smith has played very well last 2 games and his spat with Kollar seems to be over. I am not sure I agree that Seymour is your run stopper either. We used the 4th from Sage already.

Ranger Tom
10-14-2009, 11:31 AM
Ever since the Raiders game I've been wondering if we could pick up Asomugha. Maybe the defense can improve without him. I'm not sure why the Raiders want to hold on to Russell, but it won't take a whole lot of effort to do so.

badboy
10-14-2009, 12:25 PM
I would do this deal in a heartbeat. ASO is the best CB in the NFL right now.

It would hurt to give up Barwin but I would do it

Next years draft is deep at the DE position. I would sign a DT in FA and draft the best DE I could get my hands on in the 1st or 2nd rds.

This trade would allow Smithiak to use a high pick on a S that everybody has been clamoring for.

The defense would be complete. The rest of the draft rds. 3-7 could be used to fortify the OL and RB that everybody wants.If we had ASO, Reeves, Smith, Gerrard Warren/Okam, Cody/DelJuan, Mario + our LBs we would make a huge difference.

Where would we go with 1st round of draft? IMO, we'd be drafting much lower than #14 where I have Texans projected. I could trade up for Mays but that would cost a bunch & I'd rule that out. My need for a defensive pick in first is pretty low with above lineup. WIth SLaton, I don't see a first being used on Spiller a similar back who would not be there later in first. I really like Tony Gerhart and have him on my board in 2nd where I think Texans will be drafting if team stays as is. He might not be available later in 2nd so I might consider projecting him to a late first round as he appears to be the real deal or at least from what I seen this early in season.

We really need an OG and with a late 1st if we do trade, is Mike Iupati a choice? LINK 09/29/09 - 9/29/09 NFL DRAFT SCOUT RISER: Mike Iupati, OG, Idaho: After watching the top five senior offensive guards on Saturday afternoon, it was obvious who scouts would consider the best prospect. Iupati was playing against an undersized Northern Illinois defense, but his size (6-6, 335) and nimble feet were impressive. He's also improved his ability to hit his target and sustain at the second level, in addition to his effectiveness as a drive blocker and pass protector. If heavy-footed interior linemen like Ryan Cook and Toniu Fonoti can be second round picks, Iupati's 5.2 40 could get him selected in the first. - Chad Reuter, The SportsXchange, NFLDraftScout.com

As I do not see my trade for ASO & Warren happening, I will stick with my #14 selection of
1) Mays FS 2)Gerhart PWR RB 3)Jerome Murphy CB/FS/KR 6'1" 185 4.48 4) Austin OG/C/T for my center 5)Olsen N.Dame for my LG.

At least it gives me something to think about other than being 2-4 after Bengals.

Kulluminatii
10-14-2009, 12:31 PM
Ever since the Raiders game I've been wondering if we could pick up Asomugha. Maybe the defense can improve without him. I'm not sure why the Raiders want to hold on to Russell, but it won't take a whole lot of effort to do so.

Because Al Davis is stubborn. When we had Kiffin as our HC, he never wanted Russell...and Kiff was pretty much po'ed when Davis still drafted him.

When Davis decided to fire Kiff, and did his whole projection-thing (which still to this day, I feel embarrassed about)...one of the reasons he stated he fired Kiff was because he didn't believe in our "franchise QB".

Al would rather let this team sink and hit rock bottom than be proven wrong. Hell, he's doing it right now:gun:.

badboy
10-14-2009, 12:46 PM
Uncle BoB is cheap IMO.

The Texans have never gone after a top tier FA or traded for a top tier player who's making alot of money.

This trend will continue.

Along with 7-9, 8-8 and 9-7 records.

Feel free to disagree with me but cite some examples of uncle BoB spending top dollar on players or the coaching staff.

Uncle BoB gave Winston a good deal but not a break the bank deal.

I bet Dunta,Ryans and Daniels woud agree with me.I thought Antonio Smith was given a pretty good FA offer. Boselli was a guy making pretty good LT bucks & he never played a down. DD was given a pretty good deal and did little if anything after being extended. David Carr is another example where McNair paid a huge price to get/keep a player. WHat about the contract for backup QB Dan O? He stepped for AJ and Chester Pitts.Did not Andre Davis get a pretty good deal recently? McNair is paying DR $10 million for one year and remains to be seen if Dunta will earn much of it. Cheap? I think you are wrong.