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Ryan
10-12-2009, 12:23 PM
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that this man right here couldn't get a half of a yard? Or Schaub couldn't do 3 straight QB sneaks?

Yankee_In_TX
10-12-2009, 12:24 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2007/1217/pg2_a_leach_300.jpg

that this man right here couldn't get a half of a yard? Or Schaub couldn't do 3 straight QB sneaks?

Not if the entire O-line is met at or behing the LOS he couldn't.

Texan_Bill
10-12-2009, 12:33 PM
The O-line got blown up. Did ya get that? The whole line got blown up. Christian Okoye wasn't moving that pile. I highly doubt a Mack truck would've that pile. :gun:

Vinny
10-12-2009, 12:49 PM
There is a reason you don't see big massive players at tailback in the red zone every weekend and being easy to find and easy to hit are two reasons you don't see more huge guys running the ball in short yardage.. It's more about the line than the back in short yardage in any case. Little guys like Emmitt Smith, LaDanian, Priest Holmes and a cast of thousands (of smallish backs) were elite red zone players in their primes since they could make people miss in short space plus they all had credible blocking. Our current line is probably the worst interior in the NFL.

Ryan
10-12-2009, 01:05 PM
That's when you don't have credible blocking, you need someone that will actually drive a pile, even if the o-line gets blown up. Slaton dances too much, and Chris Brown just gives the defensive line kisses. And a quick handoff to the FB gives the O-line less time to get massacred in the first place. Maybe i'm thinking too simply or something, but it seems like one of these two options would work.

Vinny
10-12-2009, 01:09 PM
That's when you don't have credible blocking, you need someone that will actually drive a pile, even if the o-line gets blown up. Slaton dances too much, and Chris Brown just gives the defensive line kisses. And a quick handoff to the FB gives the O-line less time to get massacred in the first place. Maybe i'm thinking too simply or something, but it seems like one of these two options would work.
If that worked so well, you would see big giant FB's all across the league running the ball in the RZ, but you don't. Big dog backs like TJ Duckett are big massive specimens but they are easy targets to hit in short space and have no wiggle...one key to scoring is finding a small crease and pressing it hard, and the big boys generally can't do that as well as a smaller back (note I didn't say "small" back).

ledzeppelin229
10-12-2009, 01:10 PM
If that worked so well, you would see big giant FB's all across the league running the ball in the RZ, but you don't. Big dog backs like TJ Duckett are big massive specimens but they are easy targets to hit in short space and have no wiggle...one key to scoring is finding a small crease and pressing it hard, and the big boys generally can't do that as well as a smaller back.

Taking notes Bill?

Hardcore Texan
10-12-2009, 03:05 PM
Our coaches should have realized that our blocking at the goal line is atrocious and not kept trying to line up to pound it in to 11 in the box. Freaking spread them out with multiple WR's and create some space between defenders and let Slaton, Johnson, Daniels do their thang.

Yankee_In_TX
10-12-2009, 03:08 PM
Our coaches should have realized that our blocking at the goal line is atrocious and not kept trying to line up to pound it in to 11 in the box. Freaking spread them out with multiple WR's and create some space between defenders and let Slaton, Johnson, Daniels do their thang.

Why? That would be getting away from our offensive philosophy, sheesh.

badboy
10-12-2009, 03:19 PM
The O-line got blown up. Did ya get that? The whole line got blown up. Christian Okoye wasn't moving that pile. I highly doubt a Mack truck would've that pile. :gun:Was that not #44 lying in the end zone past the Dline?

Texan_Bill
10-12-2009, 03:21 PM
Was that not #44 lying in the end zone past the Dline?

Man, you're gonna make me watch the highlights again? :photos:

silvrhand
10-12-2009, 03:22 PM
Man, you're gonna make me watch the highlights again? :photos:

The cardinals highlights right? :roast:

HOU-TEX
10-12-2009, 03:24 PM
Was that not #44 lying in the end zone past the Dline?

No. To be honest, right before the 4th down play I mentioned to the wife that they should just give it to my boy Leach. After the play I realized Leach wouldn't have even gotten in because he was met behind the LOS. He did get some push, but not enough to get over the line.

Texan_Bill
10-12-2009, 03:25 PM
The cardinals highlights right? :roast:

Unfortunately! :bat:

Texan_Bill
10-12-2009, 03:29 PM
Was that not #44 lying in the end zone past the Dline?

Actually the only two I saw in the end zone were both Winston and Brown.