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Scooter
10-12-2009, 01:11 AM
kyle's or kubiak's? from all i can tell on gameday kubiak is watching the chart incase a situation happens to catch his eye and kyle's on the mic for almost every play, and the scripted plays arent kubiak's norm so again i assume them to be kyle. does anyone know more certainly what the roles are when it comes to design and playcalling?

dalemurphy
10-12-2009, 01:25 AM
It's Alex Gibbs' offense! I'm afraid that's the problem. They stubbornly refuse to adjust away from the base zone running play even though every time they do it's effective. I believe that a little variety and some misdirection (other than the bootleg and end around) would go a long way in making the Zone runs more effective. The problem is that Gibbs doesn't believe in that.

m5kwatts
10-12-2009, 01:35 AM
Its Matt Schaub's. The play-calling/gameplan for the most part is centered around him and his stengths. Which makes the goal line play-calling all the more perplexing.

Norg
10-12-2009, 01:44 AM
this is like 70% kubes and thirty percent Kyles

utahmark
10-12-2009, 01:57 AM
this is like 70% kubes and thirty percent Kyles

i think its more like sixty seven percent kubes and 33% kyles.

Scooter
10-12-2009, 02:00 AM
i'm suprised ... i get the feeling we're seeing a whole lot more kyle than kubiak. kubiak's philosophy being designed and executed by kyle and gibbs.

Mr. White
10-12-2009, 08:25 AM
It's Alex Gibbs' offense! I'm afraid that's the problem. They stubbornly refuse to adjust away from the base zone running play even though every time they do it's effective. I believe that a little variety and some misdirection (other than the bootleg and end around) would go a long way in making the Zone runs more effective. The problem is that Gibbs doesn't believe in that.

I think this is the case as well. It's pretty obvious that our run game philosophy comes from Gibbs and I'm afraid that he gets more input in the offensive playcalling than he gets credit for.

It doesn't matter who's making the calls because they're hamstrung by the Gibbsasaurus.

Cjeremy635
10-12-2009, 08:37 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, but where is the ZBS? I don't seee the lateral push at all anymore. Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought that the reason we use lighter/faster lineman was to beat them to the punch and push them to the side. It appears to me that we seem to be using more straight up blocking and are being completely blown off of the ball due to our smaller blockers. Am I wrong here?

76Texan
10-12-2009, 08:46 AM
Maybe I'm missing something, but where is the ZBS? I don't seee the lateral push at all anymore. Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought that the reason we use lighter/faster lineman was to beat them to the punch and push them to the side. It appears to me that we seem to be using more straight up blocking and are being completely blown off of the ball due to our smaller blockers. Am I wrong here?

In short yardage situation, it's more difficult to see, like in this last game, when we decided to have Leach as the lead blocker who goes up between Studdard and Myers.
All the other linemen block down to the inside.
Winston would try to combo with Brisiel; D.Brown with Studdard, whenever they can.

Cjeremy635
10-12-2009, 08:52 AM
In short yardage situation, it's more difficult to see, like in this last game, when we decided to have Leach as the lead blocker who goes up between Studdard and Myers.
All the other linemen block down to the inside.
Winston would try to combo with Brisiel; D.Brown with Studdard, whenever they can.

I'm not just talking about short yardage. I'm rarely seeing it ever, is what I'm getting at. That solid linear push that symbolizes what a ZBS is, is lacking.

76Texan
10-12-2009, 09:07 AM
I'm not just talking about short yardage. I'm rarely seeing it ever, is what I'm getting at. That solid linear push that symbolizes what a ZBS is, is lacking.

It's still there, but we're no longer in the more-basic-like ZBS of last year.

Last year, I don't think we even start pulling a Guard or a Tackle until late in the season.
Gibbs and Kubiak had said during PS last year that we were goinng to do just that, going back to the basics at the start of the season, due to all the new faces on the O-line.

This year, we expand the scheme, with more Guard and Tackle pulls to utilize their quickness in space, which, to me, is a good thing.