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m5kwatts
10-11-2009, 07:22 PM
Plain and simple. No matter how hard we battle on O, D or ST we just can't win when we need to. We're always a play away and we always come down on the losing side of things. And I'm just talking about the 2009 season. By the way did anyone notice the Jags got beat by 40?

Thorn
10-11-2009, 08:45 PM
We will be 3-6 during the bye week.

@Cincinnati - Loss
San Fran Loss (although we might win this one)
@Buffalo Win
@Indy Loss

So we are 3-6 (maybe 4-5) during the bye week.

Titans - Win
Indy Loss (maybe we pull this out)
@Jacksonville Loss (Jags punk us for a road loss)
Seahawks - Win
@Rams - Win
@Dolphins - could go either way
Patriots - Loss if the Patriots care, if they take the week off because they already have secured their playoff spot, we might win.

So Im thinking about what I originally predicted, somewhere in the vicinity of 7-9 to 9-7 at the end of the season. More of the same old shit we got last year.

ATXtexanfan
10-11-2009, 08:56 PM
showing up to play in the 1st qtr might help. don't understand the slow starts.

eriadoc
10-11-2009, 09:00 PM
showing up to play in the 1st qtr might help. don't understand the slow starts.

Well, prior to this week, people were complaining about the lack of offense in the 2nd half. Today they scored 21 in the 2nd half. Which is it? Slow starts or slow finishes?

Second Honeymoon
10-11-2009, 09:02 PM
Well, prior to this week, people were complaining about the lack of offense in the 2nd half. Today they scored 21 in the 2nd half. Which is it? Slow starts or slow finishes?

people are complaining about the team not being prepared to play at kickoff. it has been going on since day one of kubiak and its freaking old.

can we please get a coach who can get the team fired up to play at kickoff? is that too much to ask?

FIRE KUBIAK

ATXtexanfan
10-11-2009, 09:04 PM
Well, prior to this week, people were complaining about the lack of offense in the 2nd half. Today they scored 21 in the 2nd half. Which is it? Slow starts or slow finishes?

slow starts, where was the O in the first half? not like we are the kings of halftime adjustments. how does the same O light up the 2nd half?

eriadoc
10-11-2009, 09:07 PM
people are complaining about the team not being prepared to play at kickoff. it has been going on since day one of kubiak and its freaking old.

can we please get a coach who can get the team fired up to play at kickoff? is that too much to ask?

FIRE KUBIAK

Yeah, it probably is. The best thing anyone can hope for right now is that we get a different coach that will strip and rebuild this team. A different coach is not going to have any more success with this bunch of losers. The players were put in position to win the game today. Matt Schaub threw the game winner for them and missed it for us. Chris Brown couldn't punch it in when it mattered. You know what? Neither can Slaton. Chris Myers tackled our back in the backfield on that play instead of winning his battle.

Players play the game. Coaches tell them what to do, but you can bet your ass Kubiak didn't tell Schaub to throw an out route that late. That's Football 101, man. An INT on an out route is almost always a pick six. You can bet Kubes didn't tell Schaub to sail the pass to Dreesen that high.

Fire Kubiak. Fine, I'm good with that. You'll get no argument from me. because results are what it's all about. But you know what? About 2/3 of this team needs firing moreso than Kubiak does. And the next coach will do precisely that.

And again, I quote Herv in my sig - these players suck.

thunderkyss
10-11-2009, 09:09 PM
Plain and simple. No matter how hard we battle on O, D or ST we just can't win when we need to. We're always a play away and we always come down on the losing side of things. And I'm just talking about the 2009 season. By the way did anyone notice the Jags got beat by 40?

To expect this to happen overnight, is a little unrealistic. Unless we were to add a dynamic player.. at RB, LG, or somewhere on the D... it's going to take time.

Yes, I know we've been doing this for 8 years. But it's not like we picked up where we left off last year.... which is what most of us were thinking we would do.

At least offensively. We should have picked up where we left off last year, when we knew the strength of the offense was the receivers (including OD). That hasn't changed, but we still try to run the ball. Our opponents should expect us to throw the ball on our very first snap of the game. But they don't. They know we will try to force the run.

Defensively, we knew that defense that was improving at the end of the year was going to be different at the start of this season. We weren't expecting what we got, but it is definitely different.

I think our defense will be respectable from here on out.

IF Kubiak & Shanahan get their heads out of their.... you know. Our offense will lead the league.

& our team will roll...... :turtle:

eriadoc
10-11-2009, 09:10 PM
slow starts, where was the O in the first half? not like we are the kings of halftime adjustments. how does the same O light up the 2nd half?

OK, fair enough. You say starts, though, like it's a recurrent problem. The team scored most of their points against the Tacks in the first half. They scored most of their points against the Jags in the 1st half. I've forgotten the Jets game, thankfully, but weren't they pretty well shut out for the second half of that game? And all last year, everyone complained about the team not making adjustments at the half and coming out flat after the half.

I dunno ... y'all need to be more consistent with your complaints, I think.

Second Honeymoon
10-11-2009, 09:11 PM
To expect this to happen overnight, is a little unrealistic. Unless we were to add a dynamic player.. at RB, LG, or somewhere on the D... it's going to take time.

Yes, I know we've been doing this for 8 years. But it's not like we picked up where we left off last year.... which is what most of us were thinking we would do.

At least offensively. We should have picked up where we left off last year, when we knew the strength of the offense was the receivers (including OD). That hasn't changed, but we still try to run the ball. Our opponents should expect us to throw the ball on our very first snap of the game. But they don't. They know we will try to force the run.

Defensively, we knew that defense that was improving at the end of the year was going to be different at the start of this season. We weren't expecting what we got, but it is definitely different.

I think our defense will be respectable from here on out.

IF Kubiak & Shanahan get their heads out of their.... you know. Our offense will lead the league.

& our team will roll...... :turtle:

overnight?!?!?! overnight?@!??!

Its year 4 of this regime. new excuse please.

eriadoc
10-11-2009, 09:12 PM
To expect this to happen overnight, is a little unrealistic. Unless we were to add a dynamic player.. at RB, LG, or somewhere on the D... it's going to take time.

For this team, yeah. Other teams turn over personnel as necessary to make rapid turnarounds. ATL and MIA come to mind most recently.

TheRealJoker
10-11-2009, 09:12 PM
overnight?!?!?! overnight?@!??!

Its year 4 of this regime. new excuse please.

+ 1. I see teams with equal or lesser talent in the playoffs every year since Kubiak has been here. Lets just stop with the excuses and win consistently so we can get in the playoffs already!!!

thunderkyss
10-11-2009, 09:21 PM
overnight?!?!?! overnight?@!??!

Its year 4 of this regime. new excuse please.

Excuse me. I acknowledged we've been in this for 8 years, but what Frank Bush is doing, is totally different from what we were doing last year, when we were improving on Richard Smith's bend over defense.

For this team, yeah. Other teams turn over personnel as necessary to make rapid turnarounds. ATL and MIA come to mind most recently.

When did ATL & MIA's defense suck? I can't remember that far back.

+ 1. I see teams with equal or lesser talent in the playoffs every year since Kubiak has been here. Lets just stop with the excuses and win consistently so we can get in the playoffs already!!!

This team is looks more like a play-off team now, than after any other game this season.