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thunderkyss
10-11-2009, 06:10 PM
Shaub just threw a pic 6 but this has been a good game. Both sides started. Slow, but adjustments were made in the second half. Defense throwing a shut. Out in the second half & look at that special teams.

Carr Bombed
10-11-2009, 06:15 PM
There's no moral victories in the NFL...

We're 2-3, there's not much to be proud about. Being proud was good the last couple of seasons. This team doesn't know how to build off a 8-8 season and take the next step.

HoustonFrog
10-11-2009, 06:15 PM
There's no moral victories in the NFL...

We're 2-3, there's not much to be proud about. Being proud was good the last couple of seasons. This team doesn't know how to build off a 8-8 season and take the next step.

Agree

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-11-2009, 06:18 PM
You're proud of being mediocre?

Corrosion
10-11-2009, 06:23 PM
You're proud of being mediocre?

I thik he means the way they battled back and made a game out of this when it could easily have been a blowout.

To be down 21 to that offense and hold them scoreless the entire second half (their defense scored) was something to be proud of - win or lose.

To have a chance to force OT after the way the entire game went .... yeah .

m5kwatts
10-11-2009, 06:23 PM
Us battling back doesn't surprise me. Us battling back, tying it then losing it doesn't surprise me either.

Texans Pride
10-11-2009, 06:24 PM
I'm not proud of this team. This is a four quarter game...Not two, but then again, the Texans always start out slow. Regardless of whether it's a slow start to a season, or slow to start a game....They need to play 4 quarters, for 16 games.

I'm not proud, this is all their fault.

New_Texans
10-11-2009, 06:25 PM
That was a good game, the first half lack of offense lost it for us. The Texans are a frustrating talented inconsistent team that--if they play as well as they did in the 2nd half--can win 9+ this year. There are so many variables in this though yet our secondary shut down Fitzgerald and Boldin in the second half REEVES made a difference because he is at least on his man and not leaving him open. We played well...we as fans can be optimistic...its a hell of a lot better than starting off 0-4 like we did last year. Don't give up on them now.

also, Chris Brown isn't a power back.

arb729
10-11-2009, 06:25 PM
glass half full: we've been in the last 4 games..

half empty: we've only won 2 of them.

jshabang
10-11-2009, 06:26 PM
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Spike
10-11-2009, 06:26 PM
Us battling back doesn't surprise me. Us battling back, tying it then losing it doesn't surprise me either.

Houston Texans...FINDING ways to make each loss more heartbreaking since its inception.

Great job by the team fighting back. We could have easily laid down after being down by 21 at half.

We have the talent here. I have less and less confidence in Kubiak.

New_Texans
10-11-2009, 06:27 PM
Houston Texans...FINDING ways to make each loss more heartbreaking since its inception.

Great job by the team fighting back. We could have easily laid down after being down by 21 at half.

We have the talent here. I have less and less confidence in Kubiak.

same, i think we need a better head coach still.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
10-11-2009, 06:28 PM
Moral victories are for pee wee league football.

hot pickle
10-11-2009, 06:29 PM
im proud of the adjustments after the half.. and our D... i really like jonny holland.. coaches these LB's very well

New_Texans
10-11-2009, 06:30 PM
Bernard Pollard is a vast improvement over what we had so far this year.

hot pickle
10-11-2009, 06:31 PM
Bernard Pollard is a vast improvement over what we had so far this year.

very much so... he flys around and lays the wood

TexCanada
10-11-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm not proud of losing, but at least we saw our defense play extremely well for 2 straight weeks

eriadoc
10-11-2009, 06:34 PM
I'm happy they didn't lie down after being down 21-0. In the end, though, that doesn't much matter. It's the kind of thing that might have mattered a couple years ago, or maybe last year after the hurricane. Right now, it just means they came back and lost.

It's just failure of a different kind.

cdollaz
10-11-2009, 06:35 PM
I'm not proud of losing, but at least we saw our defense play extremely well for 2 straight weeks

Giving up 3 first half TD drives (and what would have been a 4th if not for a rare fumble) is not "extremely" well. They played well for half of the game.

alphajoker
10-11-2009, 06:36 PM
Pride schmide...:choke:

ATXtexanfan
10-11-2009, 06:36 PM
jesus christ, schaub isn't he answer. proud is you making excuses

New_Texans
10-11-2009, 06:36 PM
I'm happy they didn't lie down after being down 21-0. In the end, though, that doesn't much matter. It's the kind of thing that might have mattered a couple years ago, or maybe last year after the hurricane. Right now, it just means they came back and lost.

It's just failure of a different kind.

Yes, they failed at winning the game however I can look at this game and see that I dont have to go into the next game absolutely dreading the defensive play because of how well the D played. 11 more games this season 11 more games and our team isnt getting worse they are getting better.

MojoMan
10-11-2009, 06:38 PM
The Texans have the most pathetic excuse for a running game I have ever seen.

Other than that, they played well in the second half, especially on defense. They were in it up until the end. They had their chances. They failed to gain one yard at the end when they had to have it.

Until the Texans develop a serious running game, they will never be a consistent winning football team.

Showtime100
10-11-2009, 06:38 PM
Count me in the "not proud" camp. Scaring the bejabbers out of a team only to lose is not what I aspire for my team. I want it all. After all these years of watching professional football in Houston I'm at the age where I begin to wonder if I will ever see a football championship in my life and that feeling sucks.

As I type Denver beats New England to remain undefeated. THATS what I'm talking about.

New_Texans
10-11-2009, 06:39 PM
The Texans have the most pathetic excuse for a running game I have ever seen.

Other than that, they played well in the second half, especially on defense. They were in it up until the end. They had their chances. They failed to gain one yard at the end when they had to have it.

Until the Texans develop a serious running game, they will never be a consistent winning football team.

We need to go break Chris Meyers legs.

LonerATO
10-11-2009, 06:43 PM
glass half full: we've been in the last 4 games..

half empty: we've only won 2 of them.

I am looking at it like the Texans can still come back and atleast make it 9-7. Look at how the Jags got killed today and the Broncos beat the Pats.

Texans Pride
10-11-2009, 06:43 PM
I'm not proud of losing, but at least we saw our defense play extremely well for 2 straight weeks

I think you mean a week and a half.

TexansBlood
10-11-2009, 06:47 PM
Proud of what? Showing up in the second half and falling asleep in the 1st??? Or having heart and having another 8-8 season?????

mariowillshine15
10-11-2009, 06:50 PM
You play how you practice. We must only practice for half a game.

Wolf
10-11-2009, 06:56 PM
I wish we would have won but I am not upset about the loss.
disappointed? yes
This team played really well in the 2nd half of the game. offensively and defensively.. I don't recall this team playing a half like this in a long while.. Yes I know it goes 4 quarters, but I was encouraged by some actual adjustments made at halftime.

the short yardage part of the Texans.. I think we know that they are who they are... no surprise there.

cdollaz
10-11-2009, 07:01 PM
I might have been proud of them 2 or 3 years ago, but at some point we have to expect progress and we are not seeing it.

jaayteetx
10-11-2009, 07:02 PM
I might have been proud of them 2 or 3 years ago, but at some point we have to expect progress and we are not seeing it.

Exactamundo!

TexanBacker93
10-11-2009, 07:02 PM
Yes, they failed at winning the game however I can look at this game and see that I dont have to go into the next game absolutely dreading the defensive play because of how well the D played. 11 more games this season 11 more games and our team isnt getting worse they are getting better.

The defense did look better in the 2nd half. They are improving. I'm not as concerned with that side of the ball right now. Schaub is regressing. He's not comfortable in the pocket and he missed on multiple easy throws. Even the completions look like they are floating forever. I'm concerned that 2 different times in the red zone this team had 2nd and 2 and failed to move the ball 2 yards. You have to be able to get 2 yards on 3 plays and they can't do it.

Runner
10-11-2009, 07:02 PM
I am looking at it like the Texans can still come back and atleast make it 9-7. Look at how the Jags got killed today and the Broncos beat the Pats.

I don't find an improverment of one game in two years that great an accomplishment. That's like 30 minutes per season.

SAMURAITEXAN
10-11-2009, 07:03 PM
Bernard Pollard is a vast improvement over what we had so far this year.

Yes, Pollard was. However, this guy was FA before we signed. I hope we go after one of these talked about safety in the next year's draft(no matter what/trading up) and signed dominant DT from FA market and 2nd or 3rd rd get power RB.

Go Texans!!

dalemurphy
10-11-2009, 07:05 PM
I still think we are winning 11 games. So, yeah, I'll be proud of them too.

mariowillshine15
10-11-2009, 07:06 PM
I still think we are winning 11 games. So, yeah, I'll be proud of them too.

Could you pass me whatever your smoking? Id love to be thinking that way too.

UK_Texan
10-11-2009, 07:08 PM
i wouldnt say im proud at all, with having the opionion that we should be playing like we did in our 4th quarter in every quarter of every game im not impressed. We have the players maybe 75% worth just poor behind the scenes imo

infantrycak
10-11-2009, 07:11 PM
The defense did look better in the 2nd half. They are improving. I'm not as concerned with that side of the ball right now. Schaub is regressing. He's not comfortable in the pocket and he missed on multiple easy throws. Even the completions look like they are floating forever. I'm concerned that 2 different times in the red zone this team had 2nd and 2 and failed to move the ball 2 yards. You have to be able to get 2 yards on 3 plays and they can't do it.

So there was a time when Schaub was consistently putting up QB ratings over 100 such that it regressed to 96.3 today? He did have several inaccurate passes today - of course they came on the just 30% of passes he didn't complete. The INT was cranial flatulence to be sure. Not comfortable in the pocket? - despite all sorts of odd looks, blitzing, etc. he didn't take a sack and was moving well and standing in the pressure to make the play. The red zone woes are obviously a serious concern.

gwallaia
10-11-2009, 07:14 PM
This was frustrating as hell. One bad play erases 50 good plays.

mariowillshine15
10-11-2009, 07:15 PM
So there was a time when Schaub was consistently putting up QB ratings over 100 such that it regressed to 96.3 today? He did have several inaccurate passes today - of course they came on the just 30% of passes he didn't complete. The INT was cranial flatulence to be sure. Not comfortable in the pocket? - despite all sorts of odd looks, blitzing, etc. he didn't take a sack and was moving well and standing in the pressure to make the play. The red zone woes are obviously a serious concern.

When the other team knows you cant punch it in with the running game they play the pass almost exclusively.

Until we can run it into the endzone we wont be a good redzone team.

SheTexan
10-11-2009, 07:16 PM
All that matters is the score at the end of the game! It's a WIN/LOSS game, period. Tomorrow, no one will care that the Texans ALMOST made a come back, that we were down 21 points at halftime, all that will matter is that we LOST again!! We are 2-3 PERIOD, and that sucks!! JMO!!

MEGA SWATT
10-11-2009, 07:17 PM
I still think we are winning 11 games. So, yeah, I'll be proud of them too.

Yeah, over 2 seasons maybe........:turtle::cow::bat:

HoustonFrog
10-11-2009, 07:18 PM
I thik he means the way they battled back and made a game out of this when it could easily have been a blowout.

To be down 21 to that offense and hold them scoreless the entire second half (their defense scored) was something to be proud of - win or lose.

To have a chance to force OT after the way the entire game went .... yeah .

Here is my problem with that mentality. It is also the same team that couldn't move the ball, was not doing much right and that was down 21-0. In football you can't pick the good and be happy. A loss is a loss and despite a positive 2nd half. Same team, same loss.\

TexanBacker93
10-11-2009, 07:21 PM
So there was a time when Schaub was consistently putting up QB ratings over 100 such that it regressed to 96.3 today? He did have several inaccurate passes today - of course they came on the just 30% of passes he didn't complete. The INT was cranial flatulence to be sure. Not comfortable in the pocket? - despite all sorts of odd looks, blitzing, etc. he didn't take a sack and was moving well and standing in the pressure to make the play. The red zone woes are obviously a serious concern.

Just because he doesn't take a sack doesn't mean he looks uncomfortable in the pocket. He doesn't set his feet well and misses on passes that he should hit because of it. Look, I shouldn't come on here after a loss because I'm full of bitter fire. I know Schaub isn't the main problem with this team and normally I can live with it when he throws an INT because he's trying to make a play. That one was just horrible. He doesn't have the arm strength to get that pass there.

Lucky
10-11-2009, 07:24 PM
That one was just horrible. He doesn't have the arm strength to get that pass there.
Which makes one wonder why that pass was called...

In football you can't pick the good and be happy.
Frog, if you take away the 21 points the Cardinals scored in the 1st half, the Texans win easily. Do the math!

ATXtexanfan
10-11-2009, 07:25 PM
if kubes is a qb guru why does our qb suck outside the pocket? everyone in the league looks great in the pocket with time. schaub sucks under pressure. to be proud of him is to be proud of a pit eating a cat. bad teams fall behind 21-0. good teams don't let that happen. that win over tenn means nothing now that they're winless.

mexican_texan
10-11-2009, 07:27 PM
I could really use a beer right about now.

mariowillshine15
10-11-2009, 07:27 PM
I think Carr Bombed said it that crappy run play on 1st down set that INT in motion. We had been killing them with the pass yet Kubiak goes back to to the run which never worked.

We get backed up and the rest is history. ugh

Thorn
10-11-2009, 07:29 PM
Proud? Nope. This is the same kind of horseshit we used to get from the Oilers. Except the Oilers would actually make it to the playoffs before punking their fans. Same team, different year, different uniforms, but at the end of the season, the results are the same. We watch other teams in the Super Bowl.

Wolf
10-11-2009, 07:37 PM
if kubes is a qb guru why does our qb suck outside the pocket? everyone in the league looks great in the pocket with time. schaub sucks under pressure. to be proud of him is to be proud of a pit eating a cat. bad teams fall behind 21-0. good teams don't let that happen. that win over tenn means nothing now that they're winless.

ask buffalo down big time one playoff game..

thunderkyss
10-11-2009, 07:39 PM
That was a good game, the first half lack of offense lost it for us. The Texans are a frustrating talented inconsistent team that--if they play as well as they did in the 2nd half--can win 9+ this year. There are so many variables in this though yet our secondary shut down Fitzgerald and Boldin in the second half REEVES made a difference because he is at least on his man and not leaving him open. We played well...we as fans can be optimistic...its a hell of a lot better than starting off 0-4 like we did last year. Don't give up on them now.

also, Chris Brown isn't a power back.

This is what I'm talking about. I don't believe in moral victories. We lost. Period.

The Patriots lost, the Ravens lost..... the SanFrancisco 49ers lost, I have a feeling the Colts will lose tonight as well. What does that mean?

Nothing.

It's just one game. & if all we do is focus on winning one game, we'll end up losing more games than not. Instead, we need to be focused on playing good football. & we did that today, on both sides of the ball, and on the sidelines.

If we can't run the ball, then we should throw it..... we did that.
They were moving the ball with great effieciency in the first half. We stopped that.

We couldn't move the ball in the first half, we changed that.

I'm proud of this team, because we played good football... made good adjustments... & we imposed our will on the Arizona Cardinals. We're taking steps in the right direction, we will be a damn good team shortly.

We still have red-zone issues..... we still have that slow start issue. But we actually controlled the clock, especially in the second half, and our defense came up big on every possession, in the second half. Special teams looked good.

I honestly don't care if we win another game this year. I don't care if Kubiak get's fired in the off-season. I don't care if we miss the play-offs this year.

All I want, is for this team to get better. I understand we're 8 years into this. I understand we suck.

But I've seen more improvement, defensively, on this team in the last 4 weeks, than I've seen in the last 4 years, & I'm excited about that.

4Texans
10-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Proud? No. I had higher expectations, and I expected a better performance for 4 qtrs. We can't even tie it up given 3 chances from the Cards 1 yd line. We can't get a score when the game is on the line. How many balls did Schaub sail over the receivers heads? I'm sick of hearing and seeing our small / quick OL get pushed around. I see some of the opponents DTs/NTs, and I feel sorry for our OL. It's extremely frustrating.

I need a beer...........

But I'll continue to watch and support this team no matter what..........:texflag:

The one thing I was proud of was seeing AJ bring down that pass and fight for his TD.:texflag:

axman40
10-11-2009, 07:44 PM
It's way past time for this team to nut up!
:texflag:

thunderkyss
10-11-2009, 08:01 PM
Proud? No. I had higher expectations, and I expected a better performance for 4 qtrs. We can't even tie it up given 3 chances from the Cards 1 yd line. We can't get a score when the game is on the line. How many balls did Schaub sail over the receivers heads? I'm sick of hearing and seeing our small / quick OL get pushed around. I see some of the opponents DTs/NTs, and I feel sorry for our OL. It's extremely frustrating.


I think it's interesting how now.... everyone sees that our problems aren't strictly defensive.. This offense has been struggling all year long, but the defense has been the "bigger" problem.

Second Honeymoon
10-11-2009, 08:04 PM
I think it's interesting how now.... everyone sees that our problems aren't strictly defensive.. This offense has been struggling all year long, but the defense has been the "bigger" problem.

being prepared at kickoff and being inconsistent is this teams fault. on both sides of the ball.

all points to coaching or the lack thereof

ATXtexanfan
10-11-2009, 08:07 PM
Proud? Nope. This is the same kind of horseshit we used to get from the Oilers. Except the Oilers would actually make it to the playoffs before punking their fans. Same team, different year, different uniforms, but at the end of the season, the results are the same. We watch other teams in the Super Bowl.

dude, she left you a long time ago. get over it. by the way..... she put your dog to sleep

gary
10-11-2009, 08:23 PM
Am I proud or mad? Nope. Why? I've learned to except whatever happens with the team. Gary is not taking these guys anywhere fast and half of it is his fault and half of it isn't. That thing they call a running attack wouldn't even win them the freaking toiletbowl. Matt had a great game but should have known better than to throw that piss poor thing they call an NFL pass. They don't even know what play to call to punch it in even though they had FOUR downs to do so and that was not the first time either. The D should have been ready from the get go after all it is called the NFL. Right? After the secondary was touched today aka in the first half just as I posted on this board all week long and I was CORRECT. Wasn't I? The bottom line is like it or not this team still has work to do just how much is the question and by the look of things I'd say a decent amount either under Gary or a new HC but something has to give soon period.

Air Canada
10-11-2009, 08:35 PM
if kubes is a qb guru why does our qb suck outside the pocket? everyone in the league looks great in the pocket with time. schaub sucks under pressure. to be proud of him is to be proud of a pit eating a cat. bad teams fall behind 21-0. good teams don't let that happen. that win over tenn means nothing now that they're winless.

You do know many good teams have been down by that much or a a lot and have comeback...I'm not cutting bait like so many after the 1st half, just gave up on the game and the season, then when we start coming back everyone changes...

I'm proud of that fight in the 2nd half cuz many teams could come out and accept it and not battle to get back like they did. YES it is a LOSS and yes we blew opportunities and made some bad decisions, but we are improving and the defense is coming on stronger. After the way the games have swung 2day...believe it or not we are still in the race for the playoffs(yeah, I said playoffs) especially the wild card is really open..:aggressive:..

I feel coming up that this team will string 2gether some wins and get hot...I know, call me crazy, smokin, very optimistic or sumthin, but I have a feeling that the offense will get back to clicking and this defense will continue to make strides...Cincy up next...:fans:

Thorn
10-11-2009, 08:53 PM
dude, she left you a long time ago. get over it. by the way..... she put your dog to sleep

I've been over the Oilers for a long time now. I was using them as an example of how it's been to be a football fan in Houston for the past fourty years, and how it hasn't really changed from one team to the next.

Blake
10-11-2009, 09:00 PM
A loss is a loss and despite a positive 2nd half. Same team, same loss.

You are probably the same person who says "I wish we would at least be competitive" after a blowout loss.

Buffi2
10-11-2009, 09:02 PM
This is what I'm talking about. I don't believe in moral victories. We lost. Period.

The Patriots lost, the Ravens lost..... the SanFrancisco 49ers lost, I have a feeling the Colts will lose tonight as well. What does that mean?

Nothing.

It's just one game. & if all we do is focus on winning one game, we'll end up losing more games than not. Instead, we need to be focused on playing good football. & we did that today, on both sides of the ball, and on the sidelines.

If we can't run the ball, then we should throw it..... we did that.
They were moving the ball with great effieciency in the first half. We stopped that.

We couldn't move the ball in the first half, we changed that.

I'm proud of this team, because we played good football... made good adjustments... & we imposed our will on the Arizona Cardinals. We're taking steps in the right direction, we will be a damn good team shortly.

We still have red-zone issues..... we still have that slow start issue. But we actually controlled the clock, especially in the second half, and our defense came up big on every possession, in the second half. Special teams looked good.

I honestly don't care if we win another game this year. I don't care if Kubiak get's fired in the off-season. I don't care if we miss the play-offs this year.

All I want, is for this team to get better. I understand we're 8 years into this. I understand we suck.

But I've seen more improvement, defensively, on this team in the last 4 weeks, than I've seen in the last 4 years, & I'm excited about that.

good post!

TexCanada
10-11-2009, 09:09 PM
This is what I'm talking about. I don't believe in moral victories. We lost. Period.

The Patriots lost, the Ravens lost..... the SanFrancisco 49ers lost, I have a feeling the Colts will lose tonight as well. What does that mean?

Nothing.

It's just one game. & if all we do is focus on winning one game, we'll end up losing more games than not. Instead, we need to be focused on playing good football. & we did that today, on both sides of the ball, and on the sidelines.

If we can't run the ball, then we should throw it..... we did that.
They were moving the ball with great effieciency in the first half. We stopped that.

We couldn't move the ball in the first half, we changed that.

I'm proud of this team, because we played good football... made good adjustments... & we imposed our will on the Arizona Cardinals. We're taking steps in the right direction, we will be a damn good team shortly.

We still have red-zone issues..... we still have that slow start issue. But we actually controlled the clock, especially in the second half, and our defense came up big on every possession, in the second half. Special teams looked good.

I honestly don't care if we win another game this year. I don't care if Kubiak get's fired in the off-season. I don't care if we miss the play-offs this year.

All I want, is for this team to get better. I understand we're 8 years into this. I understand we suck.

But I've seen more improvement, defensively, on this team in the last 4 weeks, than I've seen in the last 4 years, & I'm excited about that.

I completely agree. Its all about improvement, and we showed that today. This defense is looking better each game, we got a lot more pressure on the qb, and actually knocked down a pass or two. We have a lot of improvements to make still, like a starting Center, but I still think that the future is bright.

Carr Bombed
10-11-2009, 09:12 PM
Proud of the Texans, huh?

I was going to start a thread about this, but I'll post it here...


The biggest insult of the Texans so far this season (well, probably not...when NY called us soft that was bigger.)

Al Michaels and Chris Collinsworth were talking about teams you really don't know yet (talking about how the Colts really haven't played anybody) and they said "well you don't know about the Cardinals.......and you still don't, because they beat Houston".

Sorry, but I don't care if we "battled back". A loss is a loss and it certainly isn't changing anybody's opinion outside of Houston...and it shouldn't. We are who we are.

thunderkyss
10-11-2009, 09:28 PM
Sorry, but I don't care if we "battled back". A loss is a loss and it certainly isn't changing anybody's opinion outside of Houston...and it shouldn't. We are who we are.

So why are you "upset" that we lost?

Again, there hasn't been any great realization here. We start slow... we started slow against NYJ, We started Slow against the Titans, we started slow against Jacksonville, & we started slow against the Raiders.

You'd think that is something that is fixable, but... we didn't fix it.

One big difference in this game, compared to the other 4, is that when we did start moving the ball, we kept moving the ball into the 4th Qtr. Last 4 weeks, we couldn't get anything done in the second half.

Defensively..... there's no way I would have beleived that our secondary would have Shut out the Cardinals offense for 6 consecutive possessions. But they did. & this was nothing like last week when Jamarcus Russell was our best DB.... Reeves batted balls away, Wilson hit people, and made them forget about catching balls. Dunta even batted a ball away, a Quin had a really good game as well.

We're getting better.

Showtime100
10-11-2009, 09:31 PM
I've been over the Oilers for a long time now. I was using them as an example of how it's been to be a football fan in Houston for the past fourty years, and how it hasn't really changed from one team to the next.

I completely understood why you mentioned the Oilers. This day was a blast from the past. Right about the time you resign yourself to thinking the game is over and life must go on, they pick you up about ten feet off the ground and drop you making the turn of the knife that much more painful. Today was very Oileresque for me as well. :roast:

HoustonFrog
10-11-2009, 09:34 PM
You are probably the same person who says "I wish we would at least be competitive" after a blowout loss.

No, I'm not. I'm a constant realist that realizes that an L is an L. I realize that despite the exciting game they were down 21-0. So overall despite the excitement of the game the reality is that they were 2 different teams..and you lose that way. Being a Cowboy fan that has been here for years now trying to root on this team I bring a different perspective. I've seen the high and the lows and to me there is no in between or beating around the bush about losses.

Carr Bombed
10-11-2009, 09:35 PM
So why are you "upset" that we lost?

Again, there hasn't been any great realization here. We start slow... we started slow against NYJ, We started Slow against the Titans, we started slow against Jacksonville, & we started slow against the Raiders.

You'd think that is something that is fixable, but... we didn't fix it.

One big difference in this game, compared to the other 4, is that when we did start moving the ball, we kept moving the ball into the 4th Qtr. Last 4 weeks, we couldn't get anything done in the second half.

Defensively..... there's no way I would have beleived that our secondary would have Shut out the Cardinals offense for 6 consecutive possessions. But they did. & this was nothing like last week when Jamarcus Russell was our best DB.... Reeves batted balls away, Wilson hit people, and made them forget about catching balls. Dunta even batted a ball away, a Quin had a really good game as well.

We're getting better.

What does any of this have to do with being "proud" of the team. I don't care if we moved the ball when a team went into "relax" mode while they were up 21 points at halftime. We couldn't move the ball when it mattered, we couldn't make plays when it mattered, and at the end of the day a loss is still a loss.

I'm tired of this "moral victory" crap, I'm tired of every time we beat a team everybody thinks we are going to lose to we have to hear the same "is this the biggest win in franchise history" crap (honestly that's just sad)...only to come out the next week and lose to a team that we SHOULD beat at home. We aren't getting better either...we were 8-8 in '07, we were 8-8 in '09, and at the end of this season we'll probably be around 8-8 again.. How is that GETTING better? I don't care if we can look like world beaters for a half of football at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if you get the W and at the end of the season the only thing that matters if you have a winning record and IDK,.... maybe a playoff apearence. Moral victories and "playing tough" doesn't cut it in this league if you're not winning games.

El Tejano
10-11-2009, 09:49 PM
This was such an up and down game. Defense starts slow, then tightens up. Offense doesn't show up until the second half, then our ST has good returns but we get a FG blocked. Man if we don't get that FG blocked, we go for another one on the 4th and 1 toss to the endzone, and then there at the end of the game we could've kicked another FG to win 29-28.

Giant Tiger
10-11-2009, 09:51 PM
This is what I'm talking about. I don't believe in moral victories. We lost. Period.

The Patriots lost, the Ravens lost..... the SanFrancisco 49ers lost, I have a feeling the Colts will lose tonight as well. What does that mean?

Nothing.

It's just one game. & if all we do is focus on winning one game, we'll end up losing more games than not. Instead, we need to be focused on playing good football. & we did that today, on both sides of the ball, and on the sidelines.

If we can't run the ball, then we should throw it..... we did that.
They were moving the ball with great effieciency in the first half. We stopped that.

We couldn't move the ball in the first half, we changed that.

I'm proud of this team, because we played good football... made good adjustments... & we imposed our will on the Arizona Cardinals. We're taking steps in the right direction, we will be a damn good team shortly.

We still have red-zone issues..... we still have that slow start issue. But we actually controlled the clock, especially in the second half, and our defense came up big on every possession, in the second half. Special teams looked good.

I honestly don't care if we win another game this year. I don't care if Kubiak get's fired in the off-season. I don't care if we miss the play-offs this year.

All I want, is for this team to get better. I understand we're 8 years into this. I understand we suck.

But I've seen more improvement, defensively, on this team in the last 4 weeks, than I've seen in the last 4 years, & I'm excited about that.

I feel better about today's loss than I did after last week's win. I like how the team fought to get back in the game. I do see improvement from the defense, this is encouraging. But the OL is a concern. They get pushed back & we can't run. How is Caldwell progressing? Hopefully Pitts will be back next year, but the OL still needs work. I want OL help before a safety next year.

imatexan
10-11-2009, 11:01 PM
I am honestly not proud of this team.

However I still love my Texans and am glad that they fought back and made it a great game in the second half.

As many of you know, I am a "go team" type of person but after today I am not taking any more moral victories.
This team is past moral victories for the first time in the franchise, we have a team that can go out and beat any opponent(unlike any other Texans team we have had).
This of course does not mean we will but I expect for us to have more wins than losses and 2-3 in not cutting it.

That said, I cant wait until next week and I REALLY hope we find a way to win!

swtbound07
10-11-2009, 11:07 PM
just going to say it like this.

I am not damned proud of these Texans.

hot pickle
10-11-2009, 11:18 PM
man just be happy that were not titans fans.. how do u think they feel after going 13-3 and now 0-5 atleast we have won 2 games lol

imatexan
10-11-2009, 11:19 PM
man just be happy that were not titans fans.. how do u think they feel after going 13-3 and now 0-5 atleast we have won 2 games lol

At least they went 13-3.

I HATE the titans and thier fans would love to hear me say this...but its true.

Texecutioner
10-11-2009, 11:39 PM
Anyone that is proud if this team needs to just put loser on the backs of their jerseys. This is the NFL, and this was what I call another EPIC meltdown from the Texans as they were right their at the jaws of tying a game and threw another one away.

Some how some way this team continues to always throw victories away over the most dump situations and plays under Kubiak. The guy needs to go. I'm through hearing from people about moral victories, about how a team didn't just quit, or how they fought hard. It's another game that slipped away, and that's all that matters. It's another typical Kubiak 8-8 team type of game. I'm sick of watching a team like that. Give this team a damn coach that knows how to win games like this instead of always losing them. :roast:

Goldensilence
10-12-2009, 12:05 AM
Why do I get the feeling I'm going to see some posters looking at this game like Sage's "epic" second half against the Titans?

Proud would be winning a game wire to wire or a game where both teams are going at it and the Texans will their way to a close victory.

To be honest after seeing the way Cinci has been playing the past few weeks and the way they looked today against the Ravens. I don't see how anyone, even before today, was putting it down as a win.

Let's just hope both sides of the ball show up start to finish.

dalemurphy
10-12-2009, 12:46 AM
Why do I get the feeling I'm going to see some posters looking at this game like Sage's "epic" second half against the Titans?

Proud would be winning a game wire to wire or a game where both teams are going at it and the Texans will their way to a close victory.

To be honest after seeing the way Cinci has been playing the past few weeks and the way they looked today against the Ravens. I don't see how anyone, even before today, was putting it down as a win.

Let's just hope both sides of the ball show up start to finish.

I think that's why I'm expecting to beat Cincy. The defense has really rounded into shape. We're healthy and the offense is carving up huge chunks of yards. Obviously we could lose but I'm going to expect this team to win a game against a less talented team in this situation. God knows I've made this mistake before, though!

Runner
10-12-2009, 05:52 AM
At least they went 13-3.



It is better to have won and lost then never to have won at all.

gary
10-12-2009, 10:54 AM
The Cards went into the same type of mode the Texans did last week when they had that big lead that was part of the reason Houston came back. Is everyone going to keep excepting sub parr games or worse from our team? If so, they will suck forever. Cincy has more of a running game than the Cards have so I exspect them to run the football down our throat.

Vinny
10-12-2009, 11:09 AM
Anyone that is proud if this team needs to just put loser on the backs of their jerseys. This is the NFL, and this was what I call another EPIC meltdown from the Texans as they were right their at the jaws of tying a game and threw another one away.

Some how some way this team continues to always throw victories away over the most dump situations and plays under Kubiak. The guy needs to go. I'm through hearing from people about moral victories, about how a team didn't just quit, or how they fought hard. It's another game that slipped away, and that's all that matters. It's another typical Kubiak 8-8 team type of game. I'm sick of watching a team like that. Give this team a damn coach that knows how to win games like this instead of always losing them. :roast:
I know what yesterday was. It was more of the same Kubiakball we are used to seeing around here. When something is on the line and both teams are battling for something, the team is a dog. Once the Cards had a huge lead the team started to play (you know, like the team isn't ever competitive when the season is on the line and it only wins when it is out of the playoff picture). Kubiak obviously can't get his team up emotionally and it only wakes up once punched in the mouth and forced to raise their level of intensity....it is a redundant theme with this current Texans team and I'm sick of it also. I can't wait to see who we experiment with as our HC next...probably Kyle Doogie Howser Shannahan. Nothing like on the job training for your important positions in Texansville. If one is "damn proud" of this team then they must take pride in getting punched in the face.

thunderkyss
10-12-2009, 11:15 AM
It's very possible that the Cardinals started relaxing a little early yesterday.... but I saw a team trying to move the ball up the field, and just couldn't do it. I saw our secondary actually contribute to multiple defensive stops..... & I am excited about that.

My wife & I watch football all weekend, high-school, college, Pro.... & for the last 2 years, I've been pointing out to her, "that's what a DB is supposed to do", "that's what our guys don't do", "that's what we're paying Dunta Robinson $9.9 million to do, and he just can't do it"... So to see our secondary actually do what they're supposed to do, is very encouraging to me.

To see us get off the field on third downs, against an offensive team that I respect.... is very encouraging. & while the Bengals are more balanced than the 5 teams we've played so far... I can't wait to see the team that lost yesterday take the field next Sunday.

Our front seven has been playing very well for the last 5 weeks.... a mistake here & there, which are hopefully gone... a missed tackle or two.... Cush missed one yesterday.. but hopefully nothing that will hurt us too bad.

If our secondary can play like they did in the second half of yesterday's game, we'll beat Cincinnatti.

Offensively, I think the problem is more on the sideline, than what we put on the field.... but that's another story.

Chance_C
10-12-2009, 11:19 AM
I don't know what to say......

Texecutioner
10-12-2009, 11:22 AM
It's very possible that the Cardinals started relaxing a little early yesterday.... but I saw a team trying to move the ball up the field, and just couldn't do it. I saw our secondary actually contribute to multiple defensive stops..... & I am excited about that.

My wife & I watch football all weekend, high-school, college, Pro.... & for the last 2 years, I've been pointing out to her, "that's what a DB is supposed to do", "that's what our guys don't do", "that's what we're paying Dunta Robinson $9.9 million to do, and he just can't do it"... So to see our secondary actually do what they're supposed to do, is very encouraging to me.

To see us get off the field on third downs, against an offensive team that I respect.... is very encouraging. & while the Bengals are more balanced than the 5 teams we've played so far... I can't wait to see the team that lost yesterday take the field next Sunday.

Our front seven has been playing very well for the last 5 weeks.... a mistake here & there, which are hopefully gone... a missed tackle or two.... Cush missed one yesterday.. but hopefully nothing that will hurt us too bad.

If our secondary can play like they did in the second half of yesterday's game, we'll beat Cincinnatti.

Offensively, I think the problem is more on the sideline, than what we put on the field.... but that's another story.

Okay, a lot of this is true I'll say and I finally saw a team that I think can become a winner, but NOT UNDER GARY KUBIAK. This team will never go anywhere under Gary Kubiak. Their is enough talent and enough players there that no how to make plays and that are capable of fighting back to get into a game like that and take one away from another team, but we failed again in out typical "loser Texans" form. That loser mentality is still there in the back of their minds. Stupid calls at the end of the game killed us again like it has for years. We get us a real HC, and this current team could do a lot.

Texan_Bill
10-12-2009, 11:23 AM
http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Random/not-this-shit-again.jpg

gary
10-12-2009, 11:28 AM
Those who say they'll beat Indy who are defeated while missing three starters are wrong.

thunderkyss
10-12-2009, 12:06 PM
...I finally saw a team that I think can become a winner, but NOT UNDER GARY KUBIAK. This team will never go anywhere under Gary Kubiak....

You'll get no argument from me on this.


:bender:

thunderkyss
10-18-2009, 04:12 PM
It's way past time for this team to nut up!
:texflag:

word

:)

thunderkyss
10-21-2009, 08:46 PM
Those who say they'll beat Indy who are defeated while missing three starters are wrong.

Two weeks.