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zcity
10-05-2009, 09:56 AM
Glover Quinn

Welcome to the Starting lineup - I think that you are there to stay for years to come.

This guy can flat out HIT and Hit you in the mouth.

He was hitting guys everywhere. Even on the safety - he took on the lead blocker (FB), crushed him and left Fargas nowhere to go except into the waitng arms of Cushing . . . (A. Smith helped out too).

He may not be quite as fast as Brice or as savvy as Reeves - but after the coaches watch this film . . . Reeves may never get back in as a starter. Can't wait to see him line up against Boldin next week.

Hervoyel
10-05-2009, 10:06 AM
Glover Quinn

Welcome to the Starting lineup - I think that you are there to stay for years to come.

This guy can flat out HIT and Hit you in the mouth.

He was hitting guys everywhere. Even on the safety - he took on the lead blocker (FB), crushed him and left Fargas nowhere to go except into the waitng arms of Cushing . . . (A. Smith helped out too).

He may not be quite as fast as Brice or as savvy as Reeves - but after the coaches watch this film . . . Reeves may never get back in as a starter. Can't wait to see him line up against Boldin next week.

Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.

zcity
10-05-2009, 10:22 AM
Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.



VERY TRUE!!!

No doubt it's a wait and see - especially against receivers that can actually hold on to the ball. But he sure as heck hits harder than Petey or Fred. Seems to just make plays - I am hopeful - certainly not convinced!!!!!

GP
10-05-2009, 11:20 AM
Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.

So true.

That's why I can't even find myself getting excited about the guy.

Patterns...

dalemurphy
10-05-2009, 11:43 AM
Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.


I never thought Bennett looked the part. Granted, he did play well as a rookie but I always thought he was a very sloppy tackler and wasn't a smooth athlete. Now that he looks totally lost, I'm not surprised. Quin looks like a genuine football player. He seems to have good instincts in coverage and in run support. He may be limited because of his speed, but I feel very confident that the guy will be playing good football for us for awhile. I actually think he matches up well against Boldin and Fitzgerald. I don't mean to suggest that he'll win that matchup but I think his size and physicality will give him a shot against those guys.

TimeKiller
10-05-2009, 12:11 PM
There are two kinds of footballer in the NFL (imo anyway) 1. athletes 2. football players. Quin falls under the 2nd category for me. His lack of top-end speed may be his biggest weakness but seeing as how speed is probably the Raider receivers' biggest threat/skill I would say he's ready for the next challenge, a more complete WR like Fitz or Bolden or even Breaston.

gtexan02
10-05-2009, 12:14 PM
The more we coach up players, the worse they get. We should just an all rookie secondary every year

Texecutioner
10-05-2009, 12:34 PM
Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.

My thoughts as well. I liked what he did on a lot of plays and he made a few nice tackles where he was getting involved, but I won't get excited until I've seen him play several games where he's covering well and unloading on other team's players. Good first game though.

hookinreds
10-05-2009, 12:38 PM
Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.


Do you think it's becuase they dummy down the schemes for the rookies and that helps them look good? Then when it comes time to progress into more complex coverage, they just get lost?

beerlover
10-05-2009, 12:58 PM
Glover Quinn looks like a FS to me. when both Reeves & Wilson return I think he should get a look & make comparables between the two. He is not blessed with blazing speed but closes fast seems to read well enough & decisive w/his reactions just needs to gain coverage experience. Excellent in run support, which is needed, has ability to blow people up that's A+ forcing turnovers & stripping the ball or beating a receiver to spot for INT the next step in Glovers development to becoming an NFL starting FS.

:twocents:

D-Frank
10-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Is he ok I heard he had a forearm injury :(

TheRealJoker
10-05-2009, 02:57 PM
The Texans drafted him to be a nickelback. He's been pressed into starting because of injuries (Reeves) and incompetence (Bennett) but I think long term his best position is either at FS (like Beerlover suggested) or at nickelback where we can use his tackling ability and ballskills while minimizing his biggest weaknesses (top end speed).

This week Reeves should be back. I'd like for Quinn to start (dont want to throw Reeves in there as a starter with so much rust quite yet) but shift to the nickel when Breaston comes on the field.

The secondary is gonna have to earn their paychecks next Sunday because they've got quite the task ahead of them.

Maddict5
10-05-2009, 03:32 PM
not trying to be a dick but its quin

lets not make him kevin walters II

nice first start though for him

Malloy
10-05-2009, 03:47 PM
What impressed me with him was his ability to tackle...

I like stuff like that.

D-Frank
10-05-2009, 04:30 PM
looks like him and pollard will start. great test

nunusguy
11-28-2009, 05:46 PM
Was visiting some of my wifes family from Albuquerque in town for the Holidays and her niece said that a neighbor who teaches at the U of NM had a class in which Glover was a student.
Anyway the neighbor said Glover was not just a very likeable student but also very intelligent. The instructor, a lawyer, apparently thought he might be headed to law school but was disappointed to hear he was going to give the NFL a shot. I always like to hear that we've drafted a player who also
have the smarts to compete in the classroom.

thunderkyss
11-28-2009, 07:31 PM
Years ago Petey Faggins looked like a diamond in the rough late round steal when he had a few good games and shut down Marvin Harrison. Dunta Robinson had his best season ever as a rookie. Fred Bennett looked like he was going to fill the spot opposite Dunta when he was pressed into starting as a rookie.

This team has a long history of throwing rookie CB's out there and seeing them play well. Then they never approach that level again.

May have come with some sense of entitlement.. being "good(avg really) players" on a bad team and all.

But we've got a new DB coach, and a new Defensive coordinator's coach, and some veterans on the team with real accomplishments, talent, and expectations.

mexican_texan
11-28-2009, 09:54 PM
I've heard Quin's work ethic is ridiculous. I haven't heard the same about Fred Bennett, let alone Petey Faggins.

silvrhand
11-28-2009, 11:28 PM
Glover Quinn

Welcome to the Starting lineup - I think that you are there to stay for years to come.

This guy can flat out HIT and Hit you in the mouth.



Guys I'm sorry but a hitting corner is the last thing on my list when I'm looking at CB's, who cares if he knocks someone out if he's getting burnt every other play. Just cover your guys like a blanket I could care less if you tackled as bad as Deon Sanders, cause your job is just to cover the guy running down the field.

steelbtexan
11-28-2009, 11:35 PM
Guys I'm sorry but a hitting corner is the last thing on my list when I'm looking at CB's, who cares if he knocks someone out if he's getting burnt every other play. Just cover your guys like a blanket I could care less if you tackled as bad as Deon Sanders, cause your job is just to cover the guy running down the field.

Ditto

Ithink Quins natural spot is S but he's the 2nd best CB on the team right now.

eriadoc
11-28-2009, 11:47 PM
Guys I'm sorry but a hitting corner is the last thing on my list when I'm looking at CB's, who cares if he knocks someone out if he's getting burnt every other play. Just cover your guys like a blanket I could care less if you tackled as bad as Deon Sanders, cause your job is just to cover the guy running down the field.

That's your preference, but that doesn't mean it's the only/best way to do things. I'd take Antoine Winfield on this team in a heartbeat, for instance. Especially if you paired him with a cover corner.

Carr Bombed
11-29-2009, 12:24 AM
Guys I'm sorry but a hitting corner is the last thing on my list when I'm looking at CB's, who cares if he knocks someone out if he's getting burnt every other play. Just cover your guys like a blanket I could care less if you tackled as bad as Deon Sanders, cause your job is just to cover the guy running down the field.

How often does a corner come around that covers as great as Deon did where you can just flat out ignore his sad tackling ability? Not very often.

When you play in a division that features two of the top young running backs in the entire league you better damn well have a corner who can lay the wood in run support and wrap up......and it's not like Quin sucks in coverage either (he's not Dunta who can ONLY tackle at this point and is getting beat like a drum in the passing game). He's done quite well in coverage also, so I don't know where the "but is getting beat burnt every other play" comment in coming from. He's a well rounded solid NFL corner, a very good 4th round pick.