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Marcus
10-04-2009, 08:21 PM
Cushing and Ryans are getting all the pub, but there is another linebacker on the team who deserves just as much as the other two.

And not too bad for a 7th round pick, huh? Good, young, quality starting linebacker who makes plays. And being that he's a 7th rounder, you can imagine how little money he makes, and how big of a raise he'll get by "someone". I feel certain that Demeco will get locked up eventually, but I'm worried that Diles will 'slip through the cracks'.

swtbound07
10-04-2009, 08:41 PM
He's a backup LB thats over his head when he has to start. Plenty of heart, not a lot of physical gifts. If he's starting, the position needs an upgrade. His hustle just makes it that we don't have to upgrade it immediately.

gtexan02
10-04-2009, 08:43 PM
I dont know about any of that. I saw him bust through the line at least twice and make huge plays in the backfield. He's excellent in my book

alphajoker
10-04-2009, 09:02 PM
He's a backup LB thats over his head when he has to start. Plenty of heart, not a lot of physical gifts. If he's starting, the position needs an upgrade. His hustle just makes it that we don't have to upgrade it immediately.

I dont know about any of that. I saw him bust through the line at least twice and make huge plays in the backfield. He's excellent in my book

Agreed...#54 has been making plays for most of this young season. Also, sometimes hustle is all you need in this game. For some players, they have all the talent but no hustle or heart. Diles, on the other hand, makes up for his lack of physical gifts with hustle and heart. I'll take that any day.

swtbound07
10-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Agreed...#54 has been making plays for most of this young season. Also, sometimes hustle is all you need in this game. For some players, they have all the talent but no hustle or heart. Diles, on the other hand, makes up for his lack of physical gifts with hustle and heart. I'll take that any day.

thats the same train of thought that makes people clamor for busing at safety.

GP
10-04-2009, 09:18 PM
I think I made some posts back in the summer that said this:

It won't matter WHO plays as our 3rd linebacker, because they have the benefit of playing alongside Ryans and Cushing. Those two guys are going to make the third linebacker look good.

It's the Anthony Weaver effect. He played on the Ravens defense, and the train of thought was that we were acquiring "one of the reasons the Ravens were good, AND we were getting him just before he was about to break out and become a star of his own. Lucky us!"

Diles has that feel, IMO. He's going to reap the benefits of playing by those other two guys. He'll put up good numbers. And he and his agent will ask the Texans for money or go seek a trade to grab bigger money.

Then, if he goes elsewhere, the new team will be suckered into thinking they got a great player at LB. They might even have him pegged as THE leader of the LB squad. And then he'll become some other team's Anthony Weaver.

So I'm not worried if he leaves. As long as we lock up Ryans and Cushing, Diles will look good out there. Adibi would look good out there. Clay Mathews would look good out there.

Not saying Diles is bad. Just saying that I think he looks better out there with Miami Vice by his side.

Fox
10-04-2009, 09:36 PM
I gave him some love. Played a hell of a game.

Marcus
10-04-2009, 09:37 PM
Comparing Zac Diles to Anthony Weaver, regardless of the context, is wrong in so many ways, it's ridiculous.

If Demeco and Cushing weren't on the field, Diles would lead the team in tackles.

Fox
10-04-2009, 09:40 PM
If Demeco and Cushing weren't on the field, Diles would lead the team in tackles.

And he was even leading last year with Demeco on the field. He's a solid player for us.

alphajoker
10-04-2009, 09:57 PM
thats the same train of thought that makes people clamor for busing at safety.

I don't understand what you're getting at.

hookinreds
10-04-2009, 10:08 PM
Diles busts his ass out there and makes plays...not really sure what else he's supposed to do? He's kicking the tail he's supposed to be kicking.

gtexan02
10-04-2009, 10:13 PM
thats the same train of thought that makes people clamor for busing at safety.

You bust Nitro for saying we should get rid of Jacoby and Slaton, but then bring this stuff about ditching Diles? Production is production, I dont see why you get caught up in "potential"

GP
10-04-2009, 10:26 PM
Comparing Zac Diles to Anthony Weaver, regardless of the context, is wrong in so many ways, it's ridiculous.

If Demeco and Cushing weren't on the field, Diles would lead the team in tackles.

Are you 100% sure of that? I'm not.

swtbound07
10-04-2009, 10:27 PM
You bust Nitro for saying we should get rid of Jacoby and Slaton, but then bring this stuff about ditching Diles? Production is production, I dont see why you get caught up in "potential"

I said nothing about ditching him. I said he's a second stringer that has played well enough for us to hold off on replacing him. I was arguing the "give me players that hustle over players with talent" mentality i see sweeping this board from time to time

dalemurphy
10-04-2009, 11:02 PM
I said nothing about ditching him. I said he's a second stringer that has played well enough for us to hold off on replacing him. I was arguing the "give me players that hustle over players with talent" mentality i see sweeping this board from time to time

Well, give me players that do their jobs and make plays. So, I'll gladly take Zac Diles. Anyone that has watched this guy play the past two seasons and believes he isn't good enough to start for a quality defense, is paying too much attention to his draft round and measurables and not enough attention to his production. Other than Demeco Ryans and Jamie Sharper, he's easily the best LB we've ever had... I'm going to wait a couple of weeks to rank Cushing.

SAMURAITEXAN
10-04-2009, 11:31 PM
Zac may not making much money now. However, if he keeps playing at current level, money will come to him. Zac turned out to be a huge steal at 7th rd pick.

Go Zac!!!
Go Texans!!!

Goatcheese
10-05-2009, 12:57 AM
Agreed...#54 has been making plays for most of this young season. Also, sometimes hustle is all you need in this game. For some players, they have all the talent but no hustle or heart. Diles, on the other hand, makes up for his lack of physical gifts with hustle and heart. I'll take that any day.

There was another undersized Zac(h) out there who was slow, undersized and lacking in any sort of elite physical gifts. He certainly road hustle, heart and instincts to a great career.

If my choice is between a Zach Thomas guy who can just go out there and get the job done, or a physical freak who can't play to save his own contract, I'll go with the production.

Carr Bombed
10-05-2009, 01:22 AM
I said nothing about ditching him. I said he's a second stringer that has played well enough for us to hold off on replacing him. I was arguing the "give me players that hustle over players with talent" mentality i see sweeping this board from time to time

So what's the reason why you have Zac Diles pegged as a 2nd stringer? Is it his draft position......because just about everytime he's started for us he's played solid football. Hell before he got hurt last season he was playing just as good if not better than every LB on the team...including DeMeco.

And that's why the Busing comparison makes no sense whatsoever. Unlike John Busing, Zac Diles has proven he can start in this league over multiple games. John Busing just made plays in preseason....when did he ever prove he can start in this league?

If you look around the league, how many teams have probowlers at every LB position? There's plenty of high quality winning teams that have no problem rolling out a LBer like Zac Diles. I think you're underselling him as a player. A better comparison for Zac Diles would be Kevin Walter (another 7th round pick who proved he could play solid starting football) and I don't think anybody would ever call him a 2nd stringer.

swtbound07
10-05-2009, 01:25 AM
So what's the reason why you have Zac Diles pegged as a 2nd stringer? Is it his draft position......because just about everytime he's started for us he's played solid football. Hell before he got hurt last season he was playing just as good if not better than every LB on the team...including DeMeco.

And that's why the Busing comparison makes no sense whatsoever. Unlike John Busing, Zac Diles has proven he can start in this league over multiple games. John Busing just made plays in preseason....when did he ever prove he can start in this league?

If you look around the league, how many teams have probowlers at every LB position? There's plenty of high quality winning teams that have no problem rolling out a LBer like Zac Diles. I think you're underselling him as a player. A better comparison for Zac Diles would be Kevin Walter (another 7th round pick who proved he could play solid starting football) and I don't think anybody would call him a 2nd stringer.

Kevin Walters is a quality football player. So is david anderson. Draft position doesn't mean shit. What you have in Zac Diles is a linebacker who is somewhat suspect in coverage, and has flaws. I don't think he is a starting linebacker on a GOOD defense. Thats not a knock on him. I think Okoye is a good 2nd team DT. Just not a starter if you want a good defense. He'd be a great depth guy...just if your starting Diles you have a problem. He makes a lot of tackles 8-10 yards down the field. He also isn't quick enough to react to the plays, and shift direction. I'm not saying you have to have Demeco Ryan's at every position, just that he's not quite good enough to start for a top caliber defense. He is probably the best we have there, but will need to be upgraded at some point. I was hoping Adibi would develop into that upgrade, but it hasn't happened yet.

dalemurphy
10-05-2009, 01:51 AM
Kevin Walters is a quality football player. So is david anderson. Draft position doesn't mean shit. What you have in Zac Diles is a linebacker who is somewhat suspect in coverage, and has flaws. I don't think he is a starting linebacker on a GOOD defense. Thats not a knock on him. I think Okoye is a good 2nd team DT. Just not a starter if you want a good defense. He'd be a great depth guy...just if your starting Diles you have a problem. He makes a lot of tackles 8-10 yards down the field. He also isn't quick enough to react to the plays, and shift direction. I'm not saying you have to have Demeco Ryan's at every position, just that he's not quite good enough to start for a top caliber defense. He is probably the best we have there, but will need to be upgraded at some point. I was hoping Adibi would develop into that upgrade, but it hasn't happened yet.

Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 tackles for a loss he has this season. Not to mention his blowing up of the reverse in the second half that was 10 yards behing the LOS. I happen to think he's better in coverage than DRyans, by the way. Last season, for instance, he had great coverage and made a great pick trailing Dallas Clark on a skinny post in the second quarter of the Rosencopter game. It was a hell of a play and some evidence that the guy can play the pass. What makes you think he can't?

DexmanC
10-05-2009, 02:08 AM
Off the top of my head, I can think of 3 tackles for a loss he has this season. Not to mention his blowing up of the reverse in the second half that was 10 yards behing the LOS. I happen to think he's better in coverage than DRyans, by the way. Last season, for instance, he had great coverage and made a great pick trailing Dallas Clark on a skinny post in the second quarter of the Rosencopter game. It was a hell of a play and some evidence that the guy can play the pass. What makes you think he can't?

Don't mind him Dale. He's just trying to find a way to hate away a solid
performance by this defense. CBS posted a stat that shows if you remove
the 4 f-ups by the Texans defense to Jones-Drew and Chris Johnson, the
Texans D is playing well enough to be ranked 17th overall in defense.

This Defense is no where NEAR as inept as the previous 3 years of
Richard Smith. It's LIGHTYEARS ahead of where it was. Here's to them
keeping their focus, and not making dumb ass mistakes. It's hard to
move the ball on this team when they stay in their gaps.

Carr Bombed
10-05-2009, 02:16 AM
Kevin Walters is a quality football player. So is david anderson. Draft position doesn't mean shit. What you have in Zac Diles is a linebacker who is somewhat suspect in coverage, and has flaws. I don't think he is a starting linebacker on a GOOD defense. Thats not a knock on him. I think Okoye is a good 2nd team DT. Just not a starter if you want a good defense. He'd be a great depth guy...just if your starting Diles you have a problem. He makes a lot of tackles 8-10 yards down the field. He also isn't quick enough to react to the plays, and shift direction. I'm not saying you have to have Demeco Ryan's at every position, just that he's not quite good enough to start for a top caliber defense. He is probably the best we have there, but will need to be upgraded at some point. I was hoping Adibi would develop into that upgrade, but it hasn't happened yet.


Funny....I didn't see Diles racking up tackles 8-10 yards down the field.....I saw him at the line of scrimmage and in the backfield.

Also like I said above, there are starting LBers on GOOD defenses like Zac Diles and they don't have "problems" at all.

Also I don't understand why the heck everybody is so hung up over Xavier Adibi....HE LOST HIS JOB TO DILES and has NEVER played better than what Diles has been able to do on the field, but he has a faster 40 time so he must be better :rolleyes:

Maddict5
10-05-2009, 04:03 AM
thats the same train of thought that makes people clamor for busing at safety.

except we've seen way more of diles in his career & he hasnt had any meltdowns like busing had last week when he got his shot

fwiw, diles was the 6th rated olb in the league heading into week 4

http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2009&pos=OLB3&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numgames=1

Goatcheese
10-05-2009, 04:08 AM
Funny....I didn't see Diles racking up tackles 8-10 yards down the field.....I saw him at the line of scrimmage and in the backfield.


Week 1

1-10-NYJ 19 (11:46) 20-T.Jones right tackle to NYJ 16 for -3 yards (54-Z.Diles, 32-F.Bennett).

1-10-NYJ 32 (7:48) 20-T.Jones left guard to NYJ 31 for -1 yards (54-Z.Diles).

1-10-NYJ 13 (14:53) 20-T.Jones right tackle to NYJ 16 for 3 yards (54-Z.Diles).

3-2-NYJ 36 (11:31) 6-M.Sanchez pass short right to 89-J.Cotchery to HST 39 for 25 yards (54-Z.Diles).

Week 2

2-13-TEN 38 (10:40) 5-K.Collins pass short left to 28-C.Johnson to TEN 36 for -2 yards (54-Z.Diles).

1-10-HOU 26 (13:59) 25-L.White left tackle to HST 21 for 5 yards (90-M.Williams, 54-Z.Diles).

1-10-TEN 34 (9:53) 28-C.Johnson left tackle to TEN 34 for no gain (54-Z.Diles).

Week 3

1-10-HOU 41 (9:09) (Shotgun) 9-D.Garrard pass short left to 32-M.Jones-Drew to HST 36 for 5 yards (40-J.Busing) [54-Z.Diles].

2-2-JAC 39 (1:09) 32-M.Jones-Drew up the middle to JAX 42 for 3 yards (54-Z.Diles, 59-D.Ryans).

3-1-HOU 12 (:23) 32-M.Jones-Drew right guard to HST 12 for no gain (59-D.Ryans, 54-Z.Diles).

1-10-JAC 27 (11:43) 32-M.Jones-Drew right guard to JAX 32 for 5 yards (54-Z.Diles, 59-D.Ryans).

1-10-JAC 20 (2:00) 32-M.Jones-Drew up the middle to JAX 20 for no gain (54-Z.Diles).

Week 4

1-10-OAK 14 (11:48) (Shotgun) 2-J.Russell pass short left to 18-L.Murphy to OAK 17 for 3 yards (54-Z.Diles).

3-15-HOU 36 (3:16) (Shotgun) 2-J.Russell pass short middle to 80-Z.Miller to HST 28 for 8 yards (59-D.Ryans, 54-Z.Diles) [90-M.Williams].

1-10-OAK 34 (14:53) 20-D.McFadden right end to OAK 31 for -3 yards (54-Z.Diles).

1-10-OAK 23 (8:06) 2-J.Russell pass short right to 20-D.McFadden to OAK 28 for 5 yards (56-B.Cushing, 54-Z.Diles).

Tackles Vs run: -3, -1, 3, 5, 0, 3, 0, 5, 0, -3 (1.2 yards per tackle)
Tackles Vs Pass: 25, -2, 5, 3, 8, 5 (7.3 yards per tackle, 3.8 not counting the big play he saved)

Exactly 1 tackle of 8 yards, and a big play that he chased down from the far side of the field.

Goatcheese
10-05-2009, 04:35 AM
Some more Diles stats:

Diles 8 games at SAM

47 solo
19 assists
66 total

5.875 solo per game
2.375 assists per game
8.25 total per game

Cushing 4 games at SAM

19 solo
14 assists
33 total

4.75 solo per game
3.5 assists per game
8.25 total per game

Maddict5
10-05-2009, 05:58 AM
another thing i loved about diles yesterday was on his TFL play- he knew the play was coming his way & motioned to barber to make sure he went outside incase dmac bounced it out so either way the D was going to make the play and not give up any big play. i love seeing those little things on D

also the way 4-6 guys came flying in as cushing was taking down fargas got me fired up too

alphajoker
10-05-2009, 07:51 AM
Well, give me players that do their jobs and make plays. So, I'll gladly take Zac Diles. Anyone that has watched this guy play the past two seasons and believes he isn't good enough to start for a quality defense, is paying too much attention to his draft round and measurables and not enough attention to his production. Other than Demeco Ryans and Jamie Sharper, he's easily the best LB we've ever had... I'm going to wait a couple of weeks to rank Cushing.

Well said, and thank you.

TimeKiller
10-05-2009, 08:45 AM
There's no good reason to hate on Diles. Dude has done nothing but play "over his head" since he got here or as I'm going to start calling it: "how he do". Tom Brady was a 6th round pick, is he playing over his head? No. What we did there was make a hell of a pick in the 7th round. You don't need all-stars at every position and really if 56/59 are in your crew you could probably be Morlon Greenwood and still pull off looking competent. What Diles has done is proven his worth on the field over and over and over again, even in the midst of the "talented" players. He sure sat Adibi's ass down.

GP
10-05-2009, 09:26 AM
There's no good reason to hate on Diles. Dude has done nothing but play "over his head" since he got here or as I'm going to start calling it: "how he do". Tom Brady was a 6th round pick, is he playing over his head? No. What we did there was make a hell of a pick in the 7th round. You don't need all-stars at every position and really if 56/59 are in your crew you could probably be Morlon Greenwood and still pull off looking competent. What Diles has done is proven his worth on the field over and over and over again, even in the midst of the "talented" players. He sure sat Adibi's ass down.

I don't think I, nor others, are hating on him.

We just aren't buying into the projections of him becoming this huge, unstoppable force that is being advanced in this thread by some of the other posters.

I loved what he did. He plays solid. No gripes from me!

But there is a another level of LB skill when you look at Ryans and Cushing.

Hervoyel
10-05-2009, 10:01 AM
He's a backup LB thats over his head when he has to start. Plenty of heart, not a lot of physical gifts. If he's starting, the position needs an upgrade. His hustle just makes it that we don't have to upgrade it immediately.

I disagree. I think he's the "lunch-pail compliment" to Ryans and Cushing as opposed to the backup playing over his head. Almost nobody has a set of LB's who are all like Ryans/Cushing. Everybody with a good set has that one guy who plays way better than his draft status and seems to be on a mission to prove that he's just as good as the first day picks.

He's the Mario Ellie of our linebacking corps. I think we're set there as long as Diles still feels the pressing need to prove he deserves that job. As long as plays like that then we have several other positions that need more immediate help than his.

silvrhand
10-05-2009, 10:02 AM
There's no good reason to hate on Diles. Dude has done nothing but play "over his head" since he got here or as I'm going to start calling it: "how he do". Tom Brady was a 6th round pick, is he playing over his head? No. What we did there was make a hell of a pick in the 7th round. You don't need all-stars at every position and really if 56/59 are in your crew you could probably be Morlon Greenwood and still pull off looking competent. What Diles has done is proven his worth on the field over and over and over again, even in the midst of the "talented" players. He sure sat Adibi's ass down.

100% agree, I don't see how anyone can hate on what Zac Diles has done, he's had a solid season all year long so far.

Thorn
10-05-2009, 10:10 AM
Our linebackers, like our recievers, are the least of our problems.

HOU-TEX
10-05-2009, 10:48 AM
Admittedly, I've questioned Diles coverage abilities in the past, but he had a great game yesterday. I give major props to "the 50's" LB corps. They had a great day at the office no matter the opponent. Imagine that, when the Dline has a good day the LB's can make plays. Amazing how that works.

I still think our secondary would've stunk it up if there were decent WR's and a competent QB playing for the Raiders

Texan JBZ
10-05-2009, 11:24 AM
I don't think I, nor others, are hating on him.

We just aren't buying into the projections of him becoming this huge, unstoppable force that is being advanced in this thread by some of the other posters.

I loved what he did. He plays solid. No gripes from me!

But there is a another level of LB skill when you look at Ryans and Cushing.

It is soooo hard to have three quality LBs like the Texans currently have. Diles is such a silent assasin on the field that his contribution goes unnoticed most of the time. Zac is about as solid as they come. He's just as good as Ryans and Cushing right now. He was playing his ass off before he was injured last season. He's playing just as well or maybe even better right now. I don't know what more the guy can do.

GP
10-05-2009, 12:17 PM
It is soooo hard to have three quality LBs like the Texans currently have. Diles is such a silent assasin on the field that his contribution goes unnoticed most of the time. Zac is about as solid as they come. He's just as good as Ryans and Cushing right now. He was playing his ass off before he was injured last season. He's playing just as well or maybe even better right now. I don't know what more the guy can do.

I'm just judging the guy based on being in there with the other two at the same time: Ryans and Cushing.

Does Zac Diles go to a team that has a weak LB squad, and become the centerpiece for that team? The guy who is the best LB on the field AND makes others around him better?

I'm only saying there are some of us who think Zac is a superb role player alongside those other two guys. Ryans and Cushing are on a different planet, IMO. Throw out the week-to-week stats on this argument. Ryans and Cushing are at a whole different level.

So this will probably become a contractual problem IF Zac continues this trend of solid play, and IF he and his agent start seeking a re-structured contract in the future. Which is a nice problem to have when we're talking about the Texans and the amount of retainable talent we have on the roster.

badboy
10-05-2009, 01:32 PM
I think I made some posts back in the summer that said this:

It won't matter WHO plays as our 3rd linebacker, because they have the benefit of playing alongside Ryans and Cushing. Those two guys are going to make the third linebacker look good.

It's the Anthony Weaver effect. He played on the Ravens defense, and the train of thought was that we were acquiring "one of the reasons the Ravens were good, AND we were getting him just before he was about to break out and become a star of his own. Lucky us!"

Diles has that feel, IMO. He's going to reap the benefits of playing by those other two guys. He'll put up good numbers. And he and his agent will ask the Texans for money or go seek a trade to grab bigger money.

Then, if he goes elsewhere, the new team will be suckered into thinking they got a great player at LB. They might even have him pegged as THE leader of the LB squad. And then he'll become some other team's Anthony Weaver.

So I'm not worried if he leaves. As long as we lock up Ryans and Cushing, Diles will look good out there. Adibi would look good out there. Clay Mathews would look good out there.

Not saying Diles is bad. Just saying that I think he looks better out there with Miami Vice by his side.So in your scenario, do we at least get a good draft pick when he goes elsewhere as a free agent?

TimeKiller
10-05-2009, 01:44 PM
I don't think I, nor others, are hating on him.

We just aren't buying into the projections of him becoming this huge, unstoppable force that is being advanced in this thread by some of the other posters.

I loved what he did. He plays solid. No gripes from me!

But there is a another level of LB skill when you look at Ryans and Cushing.

I have no idea why you quoted me but I didn't call out anyone for hating him and I never sold him being an all-pro. In fact I pretty much called him a non-all star in my last post so...what's the deal? If you're going to compare him to Ryans and Cushing you don't really need 14 paragraphs to explain it. He's not as good. Done. What he is: someone that Ryans doesn't have to worry about covering for if he makes a mistake like, I don't know...MORLON GREENWOOD. Neither were stars but Diles makes Greenwood look like a high school player anyway. If people want to love on him for that let 'em. He deserves it without you going around reminding people that he's not as good as Demeco freaking Ryans as if that's a hole in his game or a viable criticism of any type.

Texan JBZ
10-05-2009, 03:33 PM
You guys are really, really underselling Zac Diles. He may not be a Pro Bowler, but he's played as well as any other Texans defender over the last two seasons. And this guy is only in his 3rd season. Who knows how much better he's going to be?

GP
10-05-2009, 04:01 PM
I have no idea why you quoted me but I didn't call out anyone for hating him and I never sold him being an all-pro. In fact I pretty much called him a non-all star in my last post so...what's the deal? If you're going to compare him to Ryans and Cushing you don't really need 14 paragraphs to explain it. He's not as good. Done. What he is: someone that Ryans doesn't have to worry about covering for if he makes a mistake like, I don't know...MORLON GREENWOOD. Neither were stars but Diles makes Greenwood look like a high school player anyway. If people want to love on him for that let 'em. He deserves it without you going around reminding people that he's not as good as Demeco freaking Ryans as if that's a hole in his game or a viable criticism of any type.

In the post I made, where I quoted you, I guess I pulled a Fred Bennett and got confused and got lost as the play developed.

You started off by saying "there's no good reason to hate on Diles," which leads one to believe you are saying "there's no good reason to hate on Diles," which is why I felt I had to explain that I am not "hating on Diles," and then you end your next reply to me by saying that I shouldn't feel the need to write 14 paragraphs about it. When, in fact, it seems I might need to for some people.

LOL. You said I could have given a short version, and yet I actually DID provide one. I had taken the time to dumb it down by saying this:

Originally Posted by GP

I don't think I, nor others, are hating on him.

We just aren't buying into the projections of him becoming this huge, unstoppable force that is being advanced in this thread by some of the other posters.

I loved what he did. He plays solid. No gripes from me!

But there is a another level of LB skill when you look at Ryans and Cushing.

That's short and sweet.

And then there will be someone come along, in a few posts from this one, who will yell at me and say I'm high on crack because I hate Diles. When I, nor others, never said I/we hate him or think he's bad.

Rinse, repeat: Nobody is hating on the guy. But the over-abundance of fans on here who are ready to crown players is amazing. You'd think we'd have learned this lesson by now. Outside of the 7-10 really good players on this team, there are people like Diles and Walter and Anderson who make their living off of people like AJ/OD and Ryans/Cushing.

Someone else said it was "underselling" what Diles has done.

Sometimes we try and complicate things and act like we might be able to see a diamond-in-the-rough and that we discovered it, and "Hey, I told you that this guy was going to blow up huge!"

Zac Diles is thriving because he is good, but also because he's around two GREAT players.

TheRealJoker
10-05-2009, 04:03 PM
Don't mind him Dale. He's just trying to find a way to hate away a solid
performance by this defense. CBS posted a stat that shows if you remove
the 4 f-ups by the Texans defense to Jones-Drew and Chris Johnson, the
Texans D is playing well enough to be ranked 17th overall in defense.

This Defense is no where NEAR as inept as the previous 3 years of
Richard Smith. It's LIGHTYEARS ahead of where it was. Here's to them
keeping their focus, and not making dumb ass mistakes. It's hard to
move the ball on this team when they stay in their gaps.

The problem with that logic is that it doesn't erase the other 31 teams' biggest f-ups. Where would we be ranked if every team was subtracted its 4 biggest f-ups?

Answer: It doesn't matter because what happened isn't going to change. The NFL isn't going to retract losses because we give up big plays!!!

D-Frank
10-05-2009, 04:29 PM
Zac has held it down since he came into this league and I believed in him and liked what i saw from him last year and like what i see from him this year, I wouldnt replace him and never did i think about that.