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Texan Asylum
10-04-2009, 07:19 PM
Nice! :jogger:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d81321cce/Jacoby-Jones-95-yard-TD-return

texanmojo
10-04-2009, 07:21 PM
Nice! :jogger:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d81321cce/Jacoby-Jones-95-yard-TD-return

..and then he promptly fumbled the ball a few plays later. I have to say the guy is exciting...exciting that he may make a great play...or exciting he will make a bad one...

JJ = Jeckal & Hyde...

Texan Asylum
10-04-2009, 07:24 PM
..and then he promptly fumbled the ball a few plays later. I have to say the guy is exciting...exciting that he may make a great play...or exciting he will make a bad one...

JJ = Jeckal & Hyde...

HATER!!! lol...

NitroGSXR
10-04-2009, 07:27 PM
Also off a pooch kick. Easier to run back for long gains on those. I'm really glad he ran it back. We were yelling out of excitement ourselves...

but...

I want Jacoby Jones off the Houston Texans football club ASAP. He needs to find work as a juggler somewhere.

texanmojo
10-04-2009, 07:38 PM
HATER!!! lol...

He he he...I wish I could be more positive...but as much as I like the guy...he just scares me when he touches the ball.

Why was Andre Davis pulled from return duty (I want to say it was at the half). I thought he was doing rather well.

NitroGSXR
10-04-2009, 07:44 PM
He he he...I wish I could be more positive...but as much as I like the guy...he just scares me when he touches the ball.

Why was Andre Davis pulled from return duty (I want to say it was at the half). I thought he was doing rather well.

I saw him leave the field. Him along with another player but could not make out the numbers on his jersey. I think they're all sicker than they want to let on but that's just a guess.

Lucky
10-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Also off a pooch kick. Easier to run back for long gains on those..
That wasn't a pooch kick. There were several pooch kicks during the course of the game. That wasn't one of them.

Yes, the Texans need to dump a player who has scored in 3 consecutive games. Because they have so many other playmakers. Right. Jacoby Jones is not a perfect football player. He doesn't play for a perfect football team. But, Jones does have skills that this team needs. He needs to see the ball more. Not less.

NitroGSXR
10-04-2009, 07:57 PM
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That wasn't a pooch kick. There were several pooch kicks during the course of the game. That wasn't one of them.

Yes, the Texans need to dump a player who has scored in 3 consecutive games. Because they have so many other playmakers. Right. Jacoby Jones is not a perfect football player. He doesn't play for a perfect football team. But, Jones does have skills that this team needs. He needs to see the ball more. Not less.

What exactly is a pooch kick? I must be confused on the meaning. I thought those were the kickoffs where they did not use a tee? In other words, a kickoff that resembles a punt.

Absolutely the Texans need to dump Jacoby Jones. I have not seen the skills that you speak of. I only see skills that would garner praise on the Ringling Brothers Juggling Squad. Jacoby Jones is fast but that's not really a skill that I'd be giving him high praise for. Catch the ball THEN run. Not catch and run. He will not change. It's been 3 seasons.

Lucky
10-04-2009, 08:19 PM
What exactly is a pooch kick? I must be confused on the meaning. I thought those were the kickoffs where they did not use a tee? In other words, a kickoff that resembles a punt.
No. A pooch kick is a short line drive kick, used to keep the returning team from allowing it's best return man to touch the ball. Both teams utilized the strategy, today. The Raiders had a free kick to the Texans following the safety. Meaning they had the option of teeing the ball up, or not. The Raiders choose to have the punter take the the kick, and he out kicked his coverage.

Jones is more than just fast. In fact, I don't think his straight 40 time is eye-popping. What he has is explosiveness and an innate vision.

texanmojo
10-04-2009, 08:50 PM
What he has is explosiveness and an innate vision.

And an innate ability to fumble the ball.

gtexan02
10-04-2009, 08:52 PM
How many times has Jacoby Jones turned the ball over this year? Im not talking close calls, Im talking how many turnovers has he actually caused this year?

NitroGSXR
10-04-2009, 08:53 PM
No. A pooch kick is a short line drive kick, used to keep the returning team from allowing it's best return man to touch the ball. Both teams utilized the strategy, today. The Raiders had a free kick to the Texans following the safety. Meaning they had the option of teeing the ball up, or not. The Raiders choose to have the punter take the the kick, and he out kicked his coverage.

Jones is more than just fast. In fact, I don't think his straight 40 time is eye-popping. What he has is explosiveness and an innate vision.

Free kick! That's the correct word. Much obliged for the clarification.

I really don't agree with you on Jacoby Jones.

JJ is 22nd in the NFL on punt returns with an 8.7 avg. 15 players have an average in double digits. He also leads the league in fair catches. Today, I was bewildered to see that he had called a fair catch when there was nobody unblocked in sight. In addition, he's had 7 fumbles as opposed to his 5 total TDs. 2 each as a WR and PR and his TD today as a KR. I'm not even counting the ridiculous fumble (that was correctly although stupidly ruled not a fumble) two weeks ago! I don't even want to get into the drops he's had as a WR.

He's doing fairly well as a kick returner this year but he still needs to take it to the next level and get more 40+ yard gains. He has only had the one today thus far.

More fumbles than TDs? After 3 years? Consider the experiment over on my end. I want him off the team.

powerfuldragon
10-04-2009, 09:02 PM
once jacoby's got a head of steam, boy is FAST... so fast they should keep buckets of ice on the sidelines for his shoes... and that td dance today... i lol'd

swtbound07
10-04-2009, 09:04 PM
jacoby and slaton were the only people that scored today. Jacoby and Slaton are the only people who Nitro wants off the team today. You would think he would take issue with the other 50 people on the roster that didnt score touchdowns today, but no.

Again, I'm glad you aren't a talent evaluator, because you aren't very good at it.

GP
10-04-2009, 09:28 PM
No. A pooch kick is a short line drive kick, used to keep the returning team from allowing it's best return man to touch the ball. Both teams utilized the strategy, today. The Raiders had a free kick to the Texans following the safety. Meaning they had the option of teeing the ball up, or not. The Raiders choose to have the punter take the the kick, and he out kicked his coverage.

Jones is more than just fast. In fact, I don't think his straight 40 time is eye-popping. What he has is explosiveness and an innate vision.

His vision is good, I agree. It's best when he's fielding the punt at midfield for some reason.

The Raiders DID outkick their coverage. As soon as I saw how far that ball was traveling, I was like "Ah hell, he's gonna' take this one to the house."

Some team is going to figure out the squib kicks are the weapon to use against Jacoby. The dozens of little bounces the ball takes, and the way it changes direction and makes Jacoby have to judge how to catch it, will make him freeze up on his ability to see those lanes of opportunities.

Just booming it to JJ is not a good plan. It was the worst option to pick, IMO.

And unlike today, JJ seems to do better when he's running hard toward the ball, trying to get under it, and then not stopping once he catches the ball. Sort of like being a receiver and catching a pass.

But you make the guy stand still, in traffic, and he's a basket case.

NitroGSXR
10-04-2009, 09:37 PM
jacoby and slaton were the only people that scored today. Jacoby and Slaton are the only people who Nitro wants off the team today. You would think he would take issue with the other 50 people on the roster that didnt score touchdowns today, but no.

Again, I'm glad you aren't a talent evaluator, because you aren't very good at it.
Cushing also scored today.

How about talking football with me instead of slinging insults? I haven't insulted anyone here. I'm trying to talk schematics and actually LEARN from things that I've said from others. You're not really teaching me too much.

JDizzle
10-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Jacoby is like that super cute and awesome puppy that occasionally dumps on the carpet. You can't really get all that angry with it because aside from the few carpet stains it's an awesome dog.

painekiller
10-05-2009, 03:31 PM
What exactly is a pooch kick? I must be confused on the meaning. I thought those were the kickoffs where they did not use a tee? In other words, a kickoff that resembles a punt.

Absolutely the Texans need to dump Jacoby Jones. I have not seen the skills that you speak of. I only see skills that would garner praise on the Ringling Brothers Juggling Squad. Jacoby Jones is fast but that's not really a skill that I'd be giving him high praise for. Catch the ball THEN run. Not catch and run. He will not change. It's been 3 seasons.


Pooch Kick
Definition: A low, line drive kickoff that often bounces around before it is fielded by the kick returner.
Also Known As: squib kick

What the Raiders did was called a Free Kick, they cannot use a tee. The punter for the Raiders over kicked the coverage, plan and simple.

And I am glad you are not the GM. Jones is a space cadet, but he is talented.

valleytexfan
10-05-2009, 03:34 PM
Gotta love it. And that Gus Johnson is somethin' else! :goodpost:

Texecutioner
10-05-2009, 03:48 PM
Free kick! That's the correct word. Much obliged for the clarification.

I really don't agree with you on Jacoby Jones.

JJ is 22nd in the NFL on punt returns with an 8.7 avg. 15 players have an average in double digits. He also leads the league in fair catches. Today, I was bewildered to see that he had called a fair catch when there was nobody unblocked in sight. In addition, he's had 7 fumbles as opposed to his 5 total TDs. 2 each as a WR and PR and his TD today as a KR. I'm not even counting the ridiculous fumble (that was correctly although stupidly ruled not a fumble) two weeks ago! I don't even want to get into the drops he's had as a WR.

He's doing fairly well as a kick returner this year but he still needs to take it to the next level and get more 40+ yard gains. He has only had the one today thus far.

More fumbles than TDs? After 3 years? Consider the experiment over on my end. I want him off the team.

I think you make a lot of good points Nitro. I've been on this same Jacoby Jones bash band wagon for a while now, and I'm not really off of it yet either. The guy is nuts for sure.

However, he has managed to have his 3rd straight game now where he has gotten into the end zone on a pass or PR. 3 straight games of finding the end zone in some capacity is something that's worth noting, and I can't say that I want him off the team anymore at this exact moment. I might change my decision tomorrow or next week, but he is finding a few ways to help the team by getting into the end zone other than those horrible fumbles.

We'll have to see how he does in the next few games. He scares the hell out of me every time he touches the ball though, that's for sure. I usually think something bad is going to happen rather than something good. Lets hope he improves.