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gary
10-02-2009, 06:15 PM
On opening the season 1-2:

“Well, I think that we’ve showed a lot of good things that we were expecting. Then we’ve failed to execute at times when I would’ve expected that that would not happen. But it’s all about execution. We’ve got the players. We’ve got the schemes and I’m not concerned about that. The coaches are working hard and we’ve just got to get the players to execute. They’re the ones that are out on the field and they’re the ones that have to do it, and they know what they’re supposed to do. We’ve got a few young guys, new guys in there. We’re going to give them a shot and I think they’re going to play well.”

On if it’s frustrating not getting better results on defense:

“Yeah, it’s frustrating. It’s frustrating for the players and coaches and to see people sometimes make a mistake. They’ve been coached up on it during the week and during the week, they didn’t make the mistake and then they got in the game and they did. With young players, is it because it’s a little stage fright? Inexperience and that sort of thing? What’s the cause of it? That’s what you really bang your head against the wall on. I think that we’ve got some really bright spots with some players who are playing well and just going to play even better. I think our linebacking core is just a tremendous improvement. Where we’ve had problems, it’s basically been one player, just not carrying out his assignment. All he had to do was to do what he had been taught to do. If you have a busted play in this league, one player breaking down makes the whole defense look bad. But the other 10 guys can be playing very well.”

On the defense saying that defensive coordinator Frank Bush is putting them in the right place:

“Well I think that they have bought into the defense, the schemes. They say that it’s not a problem with the schemes. It’s not a problem with the calls. They just have to execute. In life, if you break it down to its smallest element of the whole universe, everything works well if everybody just does what they should do—each individual. It’s not different with a football team. All they have to do is just carry out their assignments. Sometimes, the players will try to do more than that and they just have to believe that all I have to do is do my job. With the talent that we have on this team, we’re going to win a lot of games, and we will. We will. I think they’re buying into it and they need to be a little more disciplined, and with that discipline, we’re going to get better ourselves.”
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/category/_/name/houston-texans

Double Barrel
10-02-2009, 06:22 PM
Thanks for posting, gary.

It sounds to me like McNair has just put some ice under Kubiak's chair. I do not see any 'hot seat' in those words.

gary
10-02-2009, 06:27 PM
He might not want the whole story to be known but it's coming.

bckey
10-02-2009, 07:34 PM
Thanks for posting Gary. I don't know what is yet to come to complete this story. But with what you posted I have to agree with Double Barrel. You can put Kubiaks, Smith or Bush's signature to this because they all say the same thing. Sounds like a bunch of parrots over there at Reliant. Things will sound different soon if the Texans don't get this mess turned around.

If the Texans beat the Raiders it really won't be a turning the corner game. The Raiders are aweful and we are expected to win. If the Texans manage to lose this game then it would be our 3rd home loss in a row and 2nd in a row to a bad team. Things wouldn't be pleasant not only here but ESPN, NFL Network, sports radio, local news etc. would blast us every chance they get. The heat would be turned up so high that McNair might say something completely different than what is posted here. It could get ugly.

Lets just hope the Texans win and get a reprieve. Brice McCain is starting in place of Bennett. He got burned against Minnesota but surely he will do better than Fred "no where near the play" Bennett. Our newest safety will be in there so hopefully he can help against the run.

And finally, I just can't understand why Reeves doesn't just tape his pinky to his ring finger and get out there and play

Runner
10-02-2009, 07:45 PM
So the coaches are working hard and the players are screw-ups. Nice.

Lucky
10-02-2009, 08:30 PM
“Well, I think that we’ve showed a lot of good things that we were expecting. Then we’ve failed to execute at times when I would’ve expected that that would not happen. But it’s all about execution.
Good lord, he's channeling Dom Capers.

http://www.nopactalent.com/speakerphotos/photos/6583Dom_Capers.jpg

This is beginning to feel like 2005. What a lousy year that was.

gary
10-02-2009, 08:37 PM
Reevs is reminding me of TMac right now. What a wuss.

Ckw
10-02-2009, 09:16 PM
Good lord, he's channeling Dom Capers.

http://www.nopactalent.com/speakerphotos/photos/6583Dom_Capers.jpg

This is beginning to feel like 2005. What a lousy year that was.

Rep. This was the first thing I thought when I read this.

Dishman
10-02-2009, 09:37 PM
Reevs is reminding me of TMac right now. What a wuss.



Are you sure about that? Tmac is making around 20 million or so this season. I don't think Reeves is scratching the surface of that much cheese per year. Plus Reeves needs to bust out in the middle of the season just before the trade deadline with a season ending injury to ensure he screws over the front office trying to trade his butt.

Yeah, he needs to get on the field, but his bones popping thru the skin of his finger m willing to give Reeves a little more leeway than McGrady. We expect much more out of $20 million stars in this town.

GP
10-02-2009, 09:39 PM
Execution is a "go word."

Look for robots to overtake Reliant this Sunday and fry all humans with their laser beam eye visors.

Only Kris Brown will be spared. To tell the rest of the world of the horror that occurred that day.

Then they will insert a chip under his skin and track him as he signs with the next worst team in football, allowing the McNair robots to find suckage for annihilation.

Bob then takes over the marketing of the team and becomes a zillionaire, until he owns all 32 franchises and manages somehow to make all 32 teams go 0-16.

E-x-e-c-u-t-i-o-n.

Brisco_County
10-02-2009, 09:57 PM
So the coaches are working hard and the players are screw-ups. Nice.

Actually, yes.

Look at every long TD run allowed, and you'll see a player not executing the play correctly.

I'm predicting that the front seven will get their act together and not look abysmal, but the secondary will remain a problem all season.

Runner
10-02-2009, 10:19 PM
So the coaches are working hard and the players are screw-ups. Nice.

Actually, yes.

Look at every long TD run allowed, and you'll see a player not executing the play correctly.


Great! Then all they have to do is identify the people responsible for selecting and training these screw-ups and make them work hard too.

Goldensilence
10-02-2009, 10:33 PM
Good lord, he's channeling Dom Capers.

http://www.nopactalent.com/speakerphotos/photos/6583Dom_Capers.jpg

This is beginning to feel like 2005. What a lousy year that was.

My first thought as well.

Execution is a "go word."

Look for robots to overtake Reliant this Sunday and fry all humans with their laser beam eye visors.

Only Kris Brown will be spared. To tell the rest of the world of the horror that occurred that day.

Then they will insert a chip under his skin and track him as he signs with the next worst team in football, allowing the McNair robots to find suckage for annihilation.

Bob then takes over the marketing of the team and becomes a zillionaire, until he owns all 32 franchises and manages somehow to make all 32 teams go 0-16.

E-x-e-c-u-t-i-o-n.

If we could replace McNair, Kubiak and Bush with a Daleks voice that'd be fitting.

Double Barrel
10-02-2009, 11:07 PM
So the coaches are working hard and the players are screw-ups. Nice.

yeah, with a headline like "McNair: Players at fault for Texans' troubles", I thought why not, let's throw the whole team under the bus.

Good lord, he's channeling Dom Capers.

http://www.nopactalent.com/speakerphotos/photos/6583Dom_Capers.jpg

This is beginning to feel like 2005. What a lousy year that was.

lol! First thing I thought when I read "execution".

That word!

2-14!!

The HORROR!!! :eek:

CloakNNNdagger
10-03-2009, 06:26 AM
Hidden in McNairs message is a relinquishing of personal accountability......one saying that the bottom of the food chain is the only real problem.......and it is certainly part of it. But what about the coaches that help pick and instruct the players, the HC who picks his staff and establishes team direction, the FO that evaluates talent and helps pick the players and determines their value (contracts)..........and, finally, the owner who, in this case, evaluates and is responsible for the choice and approval of the GM and HC?

Randall Cunningham once made this statement. "I give so much of myself on Sunday. I drain all the life out of myself out there. I get paid to play, to win, to give the city pride, so maybe everybody can forget for a little while how hard life is."

Had Dunta, for example, spoken of getting paid in the spirit that Cunningham presented it, NO ONE would have been upset.............but, unfortunately, it seems that to a majority of the Texans organization, money not heart is their foremost driving force.........the attitude appears to run down hill from the top..........and the resulting situation should surprise no one.

Mr. White
10-03-2009, 11:03 AM
I remember McNair blowing smoke about how great Carr was in 2006. All season long. We were all thinking the guy was totally delusional.

If there's one thing we know about him, it's that he's PR trained. He won't say anything that we can read anything into.

steelbtexan
10-03-2009, 11:19 AM
Hidden in McNairs message is a relinquishing of personal accountability......one saying that the bottom of the food chain is the only real problem.......and it is certainly part of it. But what about the coaches that help pick and instruct the players, the HC who picks his staff and establishes team direction, the FO that evaluates talent and helps pick the players and determines their value (contracts)..........and, finally, the owner who, in this case, evaluates and is responsible for the choice and approval of the GM and HC?

Randall Cunningham once made this statement. "I give so much of myself on Sunday. I drain all the life out of myself out there. I get paid to play, to win, to give the city pride, so maybe everybody can forget for a little while how hard life is."

Had Dunta, for example, spoken of getting paid in the spirit that Cunningham presented it, NO ONE would have been upset.............but, unfortunately, it seems that to a majority of the Texans organization, money not heart is their foremost driving force.........the attitude appears to run down hill from the top..........and the resulting situation should surprise no one.

Preaching to the chior

gary
10-03-2009, 03:41 PM
Are you sure about that? Tmac is making around 20 million or so this season. I don't think Reeves is scratching the surface of that much cheese per year. Plus Reeves needs to bust out in the middle of the season just before the trade deadline with a season ending injury to ensure he screws over the front office trying to trade his butt.

Yeah, he needs to get on the field, but his bones popping thru the skin of his finger m willing to give Reeves a little more leeway than McGrady. We expect much more out of $20 million stars in this town.Maybe you're right but back when players played with much worse.

eriadoc
10-03-2009, 04:29 PM
We expect much more out of $20 million stars in this town.

The point being that when you make more money to perform, more is expected.

Hidden in McNairs message is a relinquishing of personal accountability......one saying that the bottom of the food chain is the only real problem.......and it is certainly part of it. But what about the coaches that help pick and instruct the players, the HC who picks his staff and establishes team direction, the FO that evaluates talent and helps pick the players and determines their value (contracts)..........and, finally, the owner who, in this case, evaluates and is responsible for the choice and approval of the GM and HC?

Maybe it should go back to what's being said above. The players are the ones making money to perform, and they aren't performing. Use MJD's long run as an example. If the players do what the coaches drew up on that play, it doesn't break for a TD. How are the coaches to blame for that? Sure, it's only one play, but at this point, I'm thinking it's pretty indicative.

And again, those who make the money are most accountable. Of course, that means McNair is mostly accountable, and in the end, he will be when the product doesn't sell. In the meantime, I'm not sure I'm willing to put the coaches on the #1 seat of responsibility for what the players aren't getting done.

Then again, it's easier to fire a few coaches and hand the problem off to some new guy than it is to fix the root of the problem.

Double Barrel
10-03-2009, 04:42 PM
Maybe it should go back to what's being said above. The players are the ones making money to perform, and they aren't performing. Use MJD's long run as an example. If the players do what the coaches drew up on that play, it doesn't break for a TD. How are the coaches to blame for that? Sure, it's only one play, but at this point, I'm thinking it's pretty indicative.

Good points. And plays are created to be successful, so it requires the players to actually run them in the way that they were created for them to work in that regard.

Obviously, some plays counter other plays, but, at the end of the day, when you've got breakdowns like blown assignments and players out of position, it comes down to a team beating itself.

gary
10-03-2009, 04:52 PM
The point being that when you make more money to perform, more is expected. Reevs won't help much if any he is not that great anyway.

GP
10-03-2009, 05:17 PM
Great! Then all they have to do is identify the people responsible for selecting and training these screw-ups and make them work hard too.

I think we're dealing with the issue of FREE WILL here.

The players are out there, on each play. Not the coaches. Coaches can't do everything. It must be a fairly frustrating job, at the end of a day, to try and get 53 people to be on top of their game on a weekly basis.

The more I have had to time to think about this, and process what others are saying about the players not doing what they should on each play...the more I begin to wonder two things:

1. ARE the coaches doing the right job of planning, as well as doing a good job of instructing them on how to play against certain situations? If not, then that's a big problem.

2. If they ARE doing a good job of planning and instructing the players, then the coaches can't do anything except stick a leg out and trip the opposing team's ball carrier as he races down the sideline.

The players have not been throwing the coaches under the bus in the media, so it sounds like it might be a situation of those guys knowing full well that they haven't been performing to the highest standard they could be performing at right now.

Correct me if I am wrong, but your take has been very strong that it's Rick Smith as being the biggest problem. You seem to never fail at zinging him every chance you get. Then, in a more general sense, your take is that the suits are to blame: The coaches and GM.

If I am McNair, and I see that for four years my offense sucked and passed the ball to the running back on every play...then the next four years, my offense is doing a much better job with a more balanced attack on a consistent basis (looking at season-to-season, not game-to-game)...then I find it hard to look at the suits and say "Let's start over."

Not saying that that's what I necessarily feel right now. I'm just trying to look at this from an ownership perspective. Do you toss the Aggie baby out with the bath water, or do you slosh the water around and look for the Aggie baby so you DON'T accidentally toss out the Aggie baby?

Just some thoughts I have had today and yesterday.

Double Barrel
10-03-2009, 05:31 PM
After reading McNair's quotes again - and understanding that not too much can be read into them - I do honestly think that Kubiak will be here for the 2010 season save for any catastrophic situation (i.e. 2-14). I think he'll keep his job even if it's 7-9 this year, because that's the way he rolls.

Obviously, they can shake things up, but I can already speculate on the reasoning that Frank Bush only had one year, needs another to find the right personnel, and Kubiak's offense is rocking and rolling so we are only 'this far' from putting it all together.

And the Texans fans say :fans::gun::texflag::gun::fans:

GP
10-03-2009, 05:32 PM
Wouldn't it be cool if there were two or three TV cameras dedicated to watching the coaches each game? To see their reactions, and interactions, to what's going on all game long?

That should be a feature of SundayTicket...three little buttons at the bottom of the screen you can click on, to bring up the "coach camera."

Nascar has those in-car cameras you can follow.

infantrycak
10-03-2009, 05:37 PM
Reevs won't help much if any he is not that great anyway.

Reeves blankets his WR. If nothing else, that discourages QBs from throwing his direction or makes them spend time on another read giving the line more time to get to the QB. Bennett might as well be jumping up and down and yelling throw to him, look I am 7 yards away.

gary
10-03-2009, 05:45 PM
Reeves blankets his WR. If nothing else, that discourages QBs from throwing his direction or makes them spend time on another read giving the line more time to get to the QB. Bennett might as well be jumping up and down and yelling throw to him, look I am 7 yards away.I said not great but I agree. The secondary won't be all that much better by just adding one guy.

ObsiWan
10-03-2009, 06:38 PM
I think we're dealing with the issue of FREE WILL here.

The players are out there, on each play. Not the coaches. Coaches can't do everything. It must be a fairly frustrating job, at the end of a day, to try and get 53 people to be on top of their game on a weekly basis.

The more I have had to time to think about this, and process what others are saying about the players not doing what they should on each play...the more I begin to wonder two things:

1. ARE the coaches doing the right job of planning, as well as doing a good job of instructing them on how to play against certain situations? If not, then that's a big problem.

2. If they ARE doing a good job of planning and instructing the players, then the coaches can't do anything except stick a leg out and trip the opposing team's ball carrier as he races down the sideline.

The players have not been throwing the coaches under the bus in the media, so it sounds like it might be a situation of those guys knowing full well that they haven't been performing to the highest standard they could be performing at right now.

Correct me if I am wrong, but your take has been very strong that it's Rick Smith as being the biggest problem. You seem to never fail at zinging him every chance you get. Then, in a more general sense, your take is that the suits are to blame: The coaches and GM.

If I am McNair, and I see that for four years my offense sucked and passed the ball to the running back on every play...then the next four years, my offense is doing a much better job with a more balanced attack on a consistent basis (looking at season-to-season, not game-to-game)...then I find it hard to look at the suits and say "Let's start over."

Not saying that that's what I necessarily feel right now. I'm just trying to look at this from an ownership perspective. Do you toss the Aggie baby out with the bath water, or do you slosh the water around and look for the Aggie baby so you DON'T accidentally toss out the Aggie baby?

Just some thoughts I have had today and yesterday.

who ARE you and what did you do with GP?!?
:)

b0ng
10-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Reeves blankets his WR. If nothing else, that discourages QBs from throwing his direction or makes them spend time on another read giving the line more time to get to the QB. Bennett might as well be jumping up and down and yelling throw to him, look I am 7 yards away.

Really all he needs to do is put on a jersey with the name "Faggins" on the back. It'd be about the same.

God what happened to that guy.

gary
10-03-2009, 08:33 PM
Would you rate Fred Bennet the worst CB on the team right now?

GP
10-03-2009, 08:50 PM
Would you rate Fred Bennet the worst CB on the team right now?

Yes. Easiest call to make, IMO.

The guy always trailing the play is Fred.

gary
10-03-2009, 08:52 PM
Yes. Easiest call to make, IMO.

The guy always trailing the play is Fred.Spot on.

Vinny
10-03-2009, 09:48 PM
John McClain - "Bob, what do you think of the execution of your defense?"

Bob McNair - "I'm all for it John."

-rimshot-

CloakNNNdagger
10-03-2009, 11:37 PM
Would you rate Fred Bennet the worst CB on the team right now?

Is he a CB?........I didn't know that...........Dang, I learn something on this Board everyday.

gary
10-04-2009, 09:34 AM
Is he just in a slump or does he stink and should be gone from the team next offseason?

BlackHoleJake
10-04-2009, 10:05 AM
Who is this Bob Enjoy you speak of? :hmmm:

gary
10-04-2009, 11:08 AM
Who is this Bob Enjoy you speak of? :hmmm:Bob enjoy is his new name I said so.

GP
10-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Is he just in a slump or does he stink and should be gone from the team next offseason?

All three. Slump, stinks, should be gone. :roast:

gary
10-04-2009, 04:14 PM
That means he and Dunte would be gone and it would be CB time in the draft.