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nut
09-30-2009, 08:36 AM
2-4 would be hard to overcome. If we lose to Oak, the paper bags are coming out.

JB
09-30-2009, 08:38 AM
2-4 would be hard to overcome. If we lose to Oak, the paper bags are coming out.

I might use a paper bag to barf into...

but I would never cover my head in one from shame!

Texan_Bill
09-30-2009, 08:41 AM
Re: If we go 1-2 next 3, is season over?

No. There would still be 10 games left. :shades:

Maddict5
09-30-2009, 09:07 AM
yes. we need to be 3-3 at a minimum to have a realistic playoff shot

BrandonLwowski
09-30-2009, 10:03 AM
I think we will be alright, we usually play the best football towards the end of the season. Last season we started 0-4 if we beat oakland we will be 2-2 so if we play our best football by the time we play afc south teams i think we will be alright

Norg
09-30-2009, 10:58 AM
here is how i see it play out

wk4 Oak @ Hou - W i think we got this Raiders on the road omn paper this is the worst team we have faced so far .... On paper so u never now tho LOL

wk5 Hou @ ARZ- L they are coming off a bye and iam sure they will light us up on the scorboard just like they did JAX

wk6 Hou @ Cincy- and this is the homer in me and think after we lose to ARZ the Light goes off in our head we finally turn this team around fix the D and then star winning

wk7 San fran @ Hou-W

wk8 Hou @ Bufflo-W

5-3 going into NOV/DEC months we really ball out

HOU-TEX
09-30-2009, 11:01 AM
here is how i see it play out

wk4 Oak @ Hou - W i think we got this Raiders on the road omn paper this is the worst team we have faced so far .... On paper so u never now tho LOL

wk5 Hou @ ARZ- L they are coming off a bye and iam sure they will light us up on the scorboard just like they did JAX

wk6 Hou @ Cincy- and this is the homer in me and think after we lose to ARZ the Light goes off in our head we finally turn this team around fix the D and then star winning

wk7 San fran @ Hou-W

wk8 Hou @ Bufflo-W

5-3 going into NOV/DEC months we really ball out

You're funny

ATXtexanfan
09-30-2009, 11:03 AM
It'll be over for me. The front end of the schedule was where we had to get wins. Another slow start leaves no room for error the rest of the way.

TheRealJoker
09-30-2009, 11:11 AM
3 games that most of us, myself included, may have thought were gimmes (@ Cincy, VS San Fran, and @ Buff) all of a sudden look like extremely tough games to win. We'll be lucky to split the 4 game stretch of @AZ, @CIN, SF, and @BUFF. Unless of course we are like the NY Giants when they won the SB and won every road game they played including the playoffs yet weren't so good at home that season.

Runner
09-30-2009, 11:14 AM
No. They'll still be fun to watch...on offense anyway.

TheRealJoker
09-30-2009, 11:17 AM
No. They'll still be fun to watch...on offense anyway.

Ladies and gentleman: Your 2008 New Orleans Saints!!!

HOU-TEX
09-30-2009, 11:19 AM
No. They'll still be fun to watch...on offense anyway.

Yep, plus it's the football season in general. I might complain about this team, but I don't let it bother me to the extent of ruining the football season. High School, College and the rest of the NFL easily makes up for a crappy home team. Heck, I even watch my nephew play in Little League football almost every Saturday.

Blake
09-30-2009, 11:20 AM
With the way Indy has come out of the gate there will be no way to catch them unless something happens to Manning.

And you can kiss the wild card goodbye, with Pitt, Cincy and Bal from the North, and the Jets and Pats coming out of the east.

Texecutioner
09-30-2009, 11:46 AM
Yep, plus it's the football season in general. I might complain about this team, but I don't let it bother me to the extent of ruining the football season. High School, College and the rest of the NFL easily makes up for a crappy home team. Heck, I even watch my nephew play in Little League football almost every Saturday.

Yeah, I'm so numb to the Texans blunders year after year any way. There are other teams that I root for besides the home team as well. Not as much, but I still have teams and players to watch and root for where I get great anticipation. Plus, Fantasy Football is always a joy and a bummer every week win or lose. There is still college football which isn't the pros, but it's still pretty good to watch. The closer and closer we got to the season my confidence in the Texans dropped a lot any way after watching them in pre season, so none of what we're seeing is that big of a surprise to me. I'll enjoy the football season regardless of what the Texans do. It will just become that much greater whenever they do put out a winning playoff team in whatever year that might happen which at this point might not be until 2022. Lol!

DBCooper
09-30-2009, 11:57 AM
No. There would still be 10 games left. :shades:

I'm glad those math classes are paying off for you, Bill.

Texan_Bill
09-30-2009, 11:57 AM
I'm glad those math classes are paying off for you, Bill.

Bastage!!! :pop:

Runner
09-30-2009, 12:05 PM
With the way Indy has come out of the gate there will be no way to catch them unless something happens to Manning.

And you can kiss the wild card goodbye, with Pitt, Cincy and Bal from the North, and the Jets and Pats coming out of the east.

Cincy. Cincinnati. Wild card. Playoffs.

I'm looking for the right combination of words to lessen the sting of the Bengals possibly making the playoffs before the Texans.

I guess the Texans better turn it on, and do it NOW.

Double Barrel
09-30-2009, 12:10 PM
Playoffs? I'll be happy with a winning season!

Last year we went 0-4 and the world was ending. They crawled back to 3-4 only to fall to 3-7. Then crawled back to 7-7 to finally finish 8-8.

So a .500 season is still within our grasp, Texans fans! Don't give up hope just yet! :texflag:

Ryan
09-30-2009, 12:21 PM
If Cincy made playoffs, i'd be all aboard the Texans getting on hard knocks next season.

Texecutioner
09-30-2009, 12:50 PM
2-4 would be hard to overcome. If we lose to Oak, the paper bags are coming out.

The season is already over if you ask me from a playoff's perspective. I've no confidence in a team that couldn't hold two of the worst defenses under 30 points where they look worse than last year's defense. Kubes isn't the kind of coach that can will his team to the playoffs with a defense like this and a start like they've had. This year was playoffs or bust, and this team isn't going to the playoffs. They'll be a run of the mill average team in the NFL once again.

hellbentforfootball
09-30-2009, 01:40 PM
here is how i see it play out

wk4 Oak @ Hou - W i think we got this Raiders on the road omn paper this is the worst team we have faced so far .... On paper so u never now tho LOL

wk5 Hou @ ARZ- L they are coming off a bye and iam sure they will light us up on the scorboard just like they did JAX

wk6 Hou @ Cincy- and this is the homer in me and think after we lose to ARZ the Light goes off in our head we finally turn this team around fix the D and then star winning

wk7 San fran @ Hou-W

wk8 Hou @ Bufflo-W

You gotta be kiidin me? You must not keep up with these teams, Cincy just beat Pitt, San Fran lost to Minn by an incredible catch, Buffalo has vastly improved. All four are losses...and I freakin luv our guys, we put up 30 on every team but if the other team puts up 31 we lose. Our DEF is the absolute worst in the league.
We are 2-6 going into Nov/Dec...hate to be the bearer of bad news:(

hadaad
09-30-2009, 01:43 PM
No. There would still be 10 games left. :shades:

I can't rep you. But I appreciate this. Good math.

Thorn
09-30-2009, 02:07 PM
After three games the Texans offense is 11th in the league in scoring, that's an improvement from last year. Our defense is 27th in the league in giving up points, which is exactly where we were at the end of 2008.

Which means Lil' Shanny is doing his job, but Frank Bush isn't.

UK_Texan
09-30-2009, 02:18 PM
The season isnt over, as always we have proven we can put points on the board and yes as always our defence is the issue. Yes its frustrating when they should be beating teams and performing better but at least we are not the whipping boys of our division or a team the opposition expects a win against.

Players like AJ, SS and Matt from what he has shown this year, shows we have what it takes, im going to dread saying this but maybe we need a little patience (insert whistle). I for one think the season is up to play for if we have learned anything from the texans its you never know whats going to happen on game day.

My 2cents worth

Vinny
09-30-2009, 02:24 PM
The team needs to go 9-4 with the balance of the games to make the playoffs. I don't see that happening with the worst d in the league.

Norg
09-30-2009, 02:41 PM
You're funny


Yeah i know but hey the next six games are the cushion of of sechudle u never know we might lose them all or heck win them all

Norg
09-30-2009, 02:44 PM
You gotta be kiidin me? You must not keep up with these teams, Cincy just beat Pitt, San Fran lost to Minn by an incredible catch, Buffalo has vastly improved. All four are losses...and I freakin luv our guys, we put up 30 on every team but if the other team puts up 31 we lose. Our DEF is the absolute worst in the league.
We are 2-6 going into Nov/Dec...hate to be the bearer of bad news:(

Pff plzzz

We beat cincy last year there tough but we dont sweet them heck are only win this year is on the road maybe its a reverse this year good road team bad home team

We got san fran at home and iam sure we dont sweet them has well

our D is not the worst we will get it together

and IMO the ARZ game is deff a trap game for ARZ !!!!!!!!!!

DerekLee1
09-30-2009, 02:49 PM
You gotta be kiidin me? You must not keep up with these teams, Cincy just beat Pitt, San Fran lost to Minn by an incredible catch, Buffalo has vastly improved. All four are losses...and I freakin luv our guys, we put up 30 on every team but if the other team puts up 31 we lose. Our DEF is the absolute worst in the league.
We are 2-6 going into Nov/Dec...hate to be the bearer of bad news:(

All five of those games are winnable, but Frisco creates the toughest because of the strength of their run game. As far as Cincy beating the Steelers, "any given Sunday". They're not as good as their record. I could see us going 4-1 over that stretch, but I could also see us going 1-4 if the defense doesn't turn it around FAST. A shootout in Arizona could be fun.

Vinny
09-30-2009, 02:49 PM
Pff plzzz

We beat cincy last year there tough but we dont sweet them heck are only win this year is on the road maybe its a reverse this year good road team bad home team

We got san fran at home and iam sure we dont sweet them has well

our D is not the worst we will get it together

and IMO the ARZ game is deff a trap game for ARZ !!!!!!!!!!

is this really English? We aren't going to sweet them?

infantrycak
09-30-2009, 02:53 PM
is this really English? We aren't going to sweet them?

Was that Freudian because it involved San Francisco?

Runner
09-30-2009, 02:53 PM
Pff plzzz

We beat cincy last year there tough but we dont sweet them heck are only win this year is on the road maybe its a reverse this year good road team bad home team

We got san fran at home and iam sure we dont sweet them has well

our D is not the worst we will get it together

and IMO the ARZ game is deff a trap game for ARZ !!!!!!!!!!

is this really English? We aren't going to sweet them?

Nope. This is the week to be tough guys again. No candy and roses for the Raiders!

DerekLee1
09-30-2009, 02:57 PM
This familiar to anyone?

[1 September 5, 1993 at New Orleans Saints L 33-21
2 September 12, 1993 Kansas City Chiefs W 30-0
3 September 19, 1993 at San Diego Chargers L 18-17
4 September 26, 1993 Los Angeles Rams L 28-13
5 Bye
6 October 11, 1993 at Buffalo Bills L 35-7

It's how the 1993 Oilers started their season. Here's how the rest of the season went.

7 October 17, 1993 at New England Patriots W 28-14
8 October 24, 1993 Cincinnati Bengals W 28-12
9 Bye
10 November 7, 1993 Seattle Seahawks W 24-14
11 November 14, 1993 at Cincinnati Bengals W 38-3
12 November 21, 1993 at Cleveland Browns W 27-20
13 November 28, 1993 Pittsburgh Steelers W 23-3
14 December 5, 1993 Atlanta Falcons W 33-17
15 December 12, 1993 Cleveland Browns W 19-17
16 December 19, 1993 at Pittsburgh Steelers W 26-17
17 December 25, 1993 at San Francisco 49ers W 10-7
18 January 2, 1994 New York Jets W 24-0

Note the points allowed by the defense in the first 5 games (KC was an anomaly), and the improvement in the last 11. Have a little faith, and maybe - JUST MAYBE - the defense will come around. 1-2 is not the end of the season. In '93, Oilers fans were reacting the same way, "FIRE PARDEE!" "DEFENSE SUCKS!" "WE'RE GOING 4-12!"

Hang in there, people...

Goldensilence
09-30-2009, 04:41 PM
This familiar to anyone?

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It's how the 1993 Oilers started their season. Here's how the rest of the season went.



Note the points allowed by the defense in the first 5 games (KC was an anomaly), and the improvement in the last 11. Have a little faith, and maybe - JUST MAYBE - the defense will come around. 1-2 is not the end of the season. In '93, Oilers fans were reacting the same way, "FIRE PARDEE!" "DEFENSE SUCKS!" "WE'RE GOING 4-12!"

Hang in there, people...

Quite frankly this post is almost an insult.

No offense to Frank Bush, but he ain't no Buddy Ryan and this defense has nowhere near the talent or fire.

CloakNNNdagger
09-30-2009, 10:00 PM
After reading this article (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gamecenter/preview/NFL_20091004_OAK@HOU), I will say that even if we WIN AND IT IS NOT A "BLOWOUT," then this season is TOAST.

After coming into the season as a dark-horse candidate to win the AFC South and make their first playoff appearance, the Houston Texans are off to a slow start thanks to their inability to stop other teams.

Defense hasn't been much of a problem for the Oakland Raiders' opponents so far.

The Texans hope their league-worst defense can start to find some answers against one of the NFL's least productive offenses when they host the Raiders on Sunday.

Houston (1-2) matched the best record in franchise history at 8-8 last season and expected to make the leap to contender in 2009. To follow through on those plans, however, it will likely need to address the gaping holes in its defense.

The Texans are giving up a league-high 436.3 yards per game, nearly 100 more than their average from last season. They've been particularly vulnerable against the run, ranking last in the NFL by allowing 204.7 yards per game. Only four other teams are giving up more than 150.

Houston surrendered 184 rushing yards and four touchdown runs in a 31-24 home loss to previously winless Jacksonville last Sunday.

"It's something we're stumped with right now as coaches, but it's our job to figure that out," Texans coach Gary Kubiak said. "They're our guys. We got to have them in position to make those plays and have them doing the same thing consistently. Obviously we did not do that."

Kubiak's defense has been consistently frustrated on third down, letting opponents convert 50 percent of the time - tied for second-worst in the league. It allowed plays of 17, 10, 16 and 28 yards on third downs against the Jaguars, one week after giving up touchdown runs of 57 and 91 yards on third and long in a 34-31 win over Tennessee.

"When it's third and long, we've got to get off the football field," cornerback Dunta Robinson said. "Third week in a row, we're singing the same song. The players have to get it fixed. (Defensive coordinator) Frank Bush is putting us in great situations. We're not going out there and taking care of our business."

The Texans appear to have a good chance of solving some of their defensive woes against the Raiders (1-2). Oakland ranks 31st out of 32 teams with 223.0 yards per game and 30th with 12.0 points per contest. After a relatively strong showing in a season-opening defeat, the Raiders have averaged 151.5 yards and 8.0 points.

JaMarcus Russell has taken much of the blame for Oakland's rough start. The first overall pick of the 2007 draft is the NFL's lowest-rated passer, completing a league-low 41.3 percent of his throws for 378 yards, one touchdown and four interceptions. He was 12 for 21 for 61 yards, no TDs and two picks in last Sunday's 23-3 home loss to Denver.

Coach Tom Cable doesn't think it's fair to make Russell the scapegoat and isn't ready to make a quarterback change.

"I know it's on everyone's mind," Cable said. "I think right now, the big picture is for this team to clean up a lot of areas. If that was the only area that I thought really needed to be changed, then it's easy, but it's not."

Russell's play was far from the only negative in the loss to the Broncos. While Oakland's running backs averaged 3.7 yards per carry, the defense gave up 215 yards rushing, put no pressure on Kyle Orton and struggled at times in pass coverage.

"It's too easy just to blame one guy and say that's a problem," said Cable, whose team committed three turnovers and was outgained 372-137 overall.

"Let's stop the run, let's run the ball better, let's tackle better, let's be more explosive on special teams, let's play better at quarterback, let's have better ball security. I mean, you start looking at the issues here and in particular to (Sunday), there's enough work for all of us."

The Raiders lost their first three meetings with the Texans before a 27-16 home victory last season. Russell delivered one of the best performances of his young career, going 18 for 25 for 236 yards, two TDs and no picks.

Houston quarterback Matt Schaub, who's totaled 657 yards, seven touchdowns and one interception over his last two games, was 19 for 36 with no TDs and one pick against Oakland last season.


WHO DOES THE LAST BOLDED QUOTE SOUND LIKE??????

hellbentforfootball
10-01-2009, 12:41 AM
All five of those games are winnable, but Frisco creates the toughest because of the strength of their run game. As far as Cincy beating the Steelers, "any given Sunday". They're not as good as their record. I could see us going 4-1 over that stretch, but I could also see us going 1-4 if the defense doesn't turn it around FAST. A shootout in Arizona could be fun.

You're right........ Cincy only beat the hell out of Green Bay and sacked Arron Rodgers 5 times in one game but its definitely an any given Sunday situation...KOOLAID!

infantrycak
10-01-2009, 09:34 AM
You're right........ Cincy only beat the hell out of Green Bay and sacked Arron Rodgers 5 times in one game but its definitely an any given Sunday situation...KOOLAID!

They sacked Rodgers 5 times because Green Bay's perennial pro-bowl LT went down.

HOU-TEX
10-01-2009, 09:40 AM
They sacked Rodgers 5 times because Green Bay's perennial pro-bowl LT went down.

Okay, they beat the reigning Super Bowl champions this past Sunday. I think there's plenty of proof between beating GB and Pittsburgh that playing against Cincy ain't a walk in the park.

infantrycak
10-01-2009, 09:54 AM
Okay, they beat the reigning Super Bowl champions this past Sunday. I think there's plenty of proof between beating GB and Pittsburgh that playing against Cincy ain't a walk in the park.

Agreed there. Neither is Cincy such a dominate team that everyone should be marking them down as a sure fire loss. And I happened to have a pair of die hard Steeler fans with me at the game last week and they are not impressed at all with the way the Steelers are playing.

HOU-TEX
10-01-2009, 10:01 AM
Agreed there. Neither is Cincy such a dominate team that everyone should be marking them down as a sure fire loss. And I happened to have a pair of die hard Steeler fans with me at the game last week and they are not impressed at all with the way the Steelers are playing.

Yeah, it kinda makes you wonder if Polamalu truly makes that defense click.

Vinny
10-01-2009, 10:04 AM
Yeah, it kinda makes you wonder if Polamalu truly makes that defense click.
He does. They use him in the box and teams don't like passing his way. The Steelers can't run the ball either...and that's a huge issue.

infantrycak
10-01-2009, 10:04 AM
Yeah, it kinda makes you wonder if Polamalu truly makes that defense click.

That and they aren't getting their running game going plus their OL is struggling. When Mewelde Moore pushes aside your high dollar fast guy and your first round pick you have issues.

Vinny
10-01-2009, 10:10 AM
This familiar to anyone?

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It's how the 1993 Oilers started their season. Here's how the rest of the season went.



Note the points allowed by the defense in the first 5 games (KC was an anomaly), and the improvement in the last 11. Have a little faith, and maybe - JUST MAYBE - the defense will come around. 1-2 is not the end of the season. In '93, Oilers fans were reacting the same way, "FIRE PARDEE!" "DEFENSE SUCKS!" "WE'RE GOING 4-12!"

Hang in there, people...this may be your weakest post yet Mr Kubiak. The 93 Oilers were LOADED and were 11-5, 10-6, 12-4 in this 3 year stretch and went to the playoffs 7 years straight (6 years in a row before this season). Nothing about the Texans resemble that squad.

Double Barrel
10-01-2009, 11:32 AM
"When it's third and long, we've got to get off the football field," cornerback Dunta Robinson said. "Third week in a row, we're singing the same song. The players have to get it fixed. (Defensive coordinator) Frank Bush is putting us in great situations. We're not going out there and taking care of our business."

I don't know what song the rest of the defense is singing, D.Rob, but I know the one that you're singing all year: "Gimme Some Money" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BYzaDwNoE)

tribestros
10-01-2009, 10:37 PM
Why would we go 1-2, the next stretch is entirely winnable.

SteveSlaton20
10-01-2009, 10:40 PM
here is how i see it play out

wk4 Oak @ Hou - W i think we got this Raiders on the road omn paper this is the worst team we have faced so far .... On paper so u never now tho LOL

wk5 Hou @ ARZ- L they are coming off a bye and iam sure they will light us up on the scorboard just like they did JAX

wk6 Hou @ Cincy- and this is the homer in me and think after we lose to ARZ the Light goes off in our head we finally turn this team around fix the D and then star winning

wk7 San fran @ Hou-W

wk8 Hou @ Bufflo-W

5-3 going into NOV/DEC months we really ball out

because san fran and buffalo are terrible teams.

dont underestimate them.

I don't know what song the rest of the defense is singing, D.Rob, but I know the one that you're singing all year: "Gimme Some Money" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-BYzaDwNoE)

because he didnt give us a shot at winning the game, huh?

HOU-TEX
10-02-2009, 09:15 AM
Why would we go 1-2, the next stretch is entirely winnable.

:spit:

Double Barrel
10-02-2009, 11:38 AM
because he didnt give us a shot at winning the game, huh?


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SteveSlaton20
10-02-2009, 04:17 PM
http://www.timesnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/dunta-robinson-shoes-300x145.jpg

get over it cry baby.

i thought yall wanted the playoffs?
no one doesnt even compete with him @ cb, and the front 7 is sure isnt helping.

Double Barrel
10-02-2009, 04:53 PM
get over it cry baby.

i thought yall wanted the playoffs?
no one doesnt even compete with him @ cb, and the front 7 is sure isnt helping.

"cry baby"? :confused:

Dude, get a sense of humor instead of acting like a childish dolt. I was joking about the song in D.Rob's head. Dude is all about the money.

Playoffs. Give me a freakin' break. You Sunshine Clubbers are great. :chickendance: