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barrett
09-29-2009, 05:12 PM
Offense

The O looked very good in the first half. We seem to rarely if ever get off to a quick start but throughout the first half Schuab and Co. were virtually unstoppable.

Schaub Schaub made twice as many mistakes as last week. By my count that's about 6 mistakes. When the man has time... oh my goodness. He looks incredibly comfortable. He does a wonderful job of reading the D and throwing to somebody for a positive gain. Sometimes he's reading and may be locked into his periphery and miss some long shots down field but I think we can all agree that he has no shortage of deep throws so I'm having a hard time complaining about that aspect of his game. If I had to point out mistakes it would be strangely inaccurate 3 or 4 times a game. Usually when under pressure. He has a tendency to throw low to wide open receivers in the flat but they almost always dig it up and get positive yards.

In the second half there were mistakes and missed assignments and the Offense performed sluggishly but when it came down to it Schaub (and Slaton) carried this team down the field and put them in position to score (twice). Matt held the ball too long once but for the most part it was mistakes by the O Line that seemed to slow this attack, not Schaub. You ever notice how surprising it is when one of our receivers drops a pass? They are good, but there's more to it than that.

Slaton go to 3:40 in our final drive. Watch his cut between 55 and 64 he anticipates 64 gaining leverage and makes a cut that looks like he's cutting right into a mess but somehow he slides through this spot and then continues down the field. It reminded me of that run against Cincy last year. All the cuts are simple but brilliant. He seems to be getting back into the groove. His pass protection was as good as I've seen it.

Brown didn't look to great but he didn't get many opportunities. A change of pace back seems less effective in this offense to me because so much of it is dependent on rhythm. Dude almost cried after the game. I'm done commenting on his injury history until he get's hurt. I like that heart.

Leach I would love to say something other than he's good but there's nothing else to say. He is an excellent lead blocker. He's getting more looks out of the backfield as a dump off and he makes the catch.

Didn't do anything amazing this game but caught everything thrown to him. Was doubled the entire game. See the results below...

[b]Walter All the folks who said things like "Walter is a decent #2 but I look for Jones or someone else to replace him soon. Take note of what a key kog this guy is. He's tough, quick, sure handed and our best blocker at that position. I really got a sense that with him back in the game this pass offense takes another step forward. After 80 got hurt 2 years ago the entire corps got better. Now 83 was out for 2 games and Jones just got better. Well, 83 is back! I have no issue with the pass interference call. I don't think it was intentional but he did get in the way.

Jones made another tough catch in the endzone... hmmm what have we got here? Thanks to KevinS Walter. Glad you're feeling better now but we have gained another target in your absence.

Daniels I'm concerned about his blocking. I don't feel like it's up to par with where he was at last season. He's getting blown up too frequently and it appears to be a key position in this offense because when he looses on his guy the play tends to die at the line of scrimmage.

Dreesen was solid and caught everything thrown to him. But that's kind of the case with all these guys. Give me Casey!!! (just kidding) This guy is the most underappreciated guy on this team. And don't forget he's long snapping too!

Brown played extremely well for the 3rd week in a row. One very costly false start in the 4th quarter.

STUDdard ok, here goes... KASEY STUDDARD PLAYED A DAMN GOOD FOOTBALL GAME. HE LOOKED VERY GOOD AGAINST THE RUN. There, I got that off my chest. He got blown up once I think and was sloppy out of position a few times but never got burned for it that I could find. I was very impressed with him on run plays where he's driving his guy very hard. Quite surprised and impressed. I can say with confidence that I think he will help the run game improve. I cannot say the same thing for the pass protection but he didn't look as awful as he has in the past. Most improved to say the least.

Meyers has been very consistent and continued that today. He get's blown up 1 or 2 times a game (usually at inopportune times) but mostly does a serviceable job. If he notices that ball laying in the endzone who knows what would have happened.

Briesel I still can't find anything to say about this guy. He doesn't seem to screw up much and gets his job done every week.

Winston looked very good this week. Much better in pass protection.

The OLine overall looked fairly good but I would say that they had a bad quarter and in the end that may have cost us the game. False starts and busted pass protection showed up in the 3rd when they had played very well up until that point. As I said it may have cost us the game we could have slowed the Jags down if we get some drives going in the 3rd. Well, that and the defense could have helped.

barrett
09-29-2009, 05:58 PM
I just wrote a long ass review of the Defense and accidentally deleted it right before I sent it.

I'm not suffering through that again.

Here's the edited version.

The Texans Defense lost the game because they don't stay in their gaps, the secondary can't tackle and Amobi OKoye.

Go Texans.

Malloy
09-29-2009, 06:30 PM
Hehe, thanks for doing the work, much appreciated.

I'm still having a hard time pinpointing exactly what the _main_ reason for the ineffective defense has been. The 'no talent' and the 'bad scheme' excuses do not cut it for me, and I'm left to wonder if it's the position coaches that are doing a horrible job.

I should watch the JAX game again, but I have a hard time convincing myself that 2˝hrs of painful Houston defeat will be the best way for me to spend an evening... :)

76Texan
09-29-2009, 07:18 PM
The INT by Schaub is either a poor decision by Schaub and/or Studdard getting owned by Henderson.

A broken play in which Schaub delivered a 24yd pass to Walter; both Studdard and OD were pushed back into MS, forcing him to scramble.

I haven't got the heart to check out the second half.

I was afraid of the Jags in their new 3-4, lining up Henderson over Studdard.
At least, he came out of the first half not too terribly.

Goatcheese
09-29-2009, 08:36 PM
The INT by Schaub is either a poor decision by Schaub and/or Studdard getting owned by Henderson.


It looked like a great defensive play to me. Most corners are not physically, or mentally capable of beating 'Dre for that INT.

imatexan
09-29-2009, 10:44 PM
No AJ?

brakos82
09-30-2009, 10:15 AM
No AJ?

The one with the broken [b] tags.

barrett
09-30-2009, 10:35 AM
No AJ?

Johnson is the best WR in the NFL. He was double covered the majority of the game. He played great. Had a key block on a run play. He's really really good. There's really nothing to say about him except that he's amazing. I didn't think evaluating him was very helpful. But there you go.

76Texan
09-30-2009, 11:39 AM
It looked like a great defensive play to me. Most corners are not physically, or mentally capable of beating 'Dre for that INT.

Henderson beat Studdard to get to Schaub.
He did not touch the QB.

But it looks like Matt couldn't step completely into his throw and/or couldn't follow through all the way with his forward motion.

That ball should have been thrown more to the outside the way the CB was having safety help over the top.

It still was an unsound decision by Schaub, IMO.
With pressure coming at his face, it would have been better to check down to Slaton who was in his line of sight and wide open in the left flat.

76Texan
10-01-2009, 02:16 PM
Henderson beat Studdard to get to Schaub.
He did not touch the QB.

But it looks like Matt couldn't step completely into his throw and/or couldn't follow through all the way with his forward motion.

That ball should have been thrown more to the outside the way the CB was having safety help over the top.

It still was an unsound decision by Schaub, IMO.
With pressure coming at his face, it would have been better to check down to Slaton who was in his line of sight and wide open in the left flat.

And we took points off the board, one of the fews things I hate the most.
We would have been in FG range.

Not to blame the game on Schaub; but with the way our D is playing right now, we need every point we can get.

barrett
10-01-2009, 02:42 PM
I do think it was ill-advised. He couldn't step into that throw for sure but there was a S over the top too. There were better options. I have a hard time being upset about throwing one up for 80 and letting him go get it but I'm not sure that was the kind of scenario I'm thinking of. 1 on 1 I think it's a fine decision. (even if he can't get the best throw off.) because Johnson has a good chance of coming up with it. But with a S over the top too is not the best decision. Plus, I feel like there were better options.

But again, this is being pretty critical. I think he played very, very well.

BigBull17
10-01-2009, 02:58 PM
It looked like a great defensive play to me. Most corners are not physically, or mentally capable of beating 'Dre for that INT.

Dre didn't help Matt out too much on the pick. He kind of drifted backwards instead of going up for the ball. Most DB's don't make that play though, so its a thing that happens. I'm not blaming AJ for the pick, just saying he could have helped Matt out a little more.

ObsiWan
10-01-2009, 03:03 PM
Johnson is the best WR in the NFL. He was double covered the majority of the game. He played great. Had a key block on a run play. He's really really good. There's really nothing to say about him except that he's amazing. I didn't think evaluating him was very helpful. But there you go.

Did you notice that they never, and I mean NEVER, threw his way in the second half???
In the first half, 7 passes went in his direction. He caught four. One was picked. The other two were incomplete/defensed.
In the second half - NADA!

I asked this in another thread....
WTF?!?
Was he hurt?
Why else would we take our "Ultimate Weapon" off the table?

BigBull17
10-01-2009, 03:05 PM
Did you notice that they never, and I mean NEVER, threw his way in the second half???
In the first half, 7 passes went in his direction. He caught four. One was picked. The other two were incomplete/defensed.
In the second half - NADA!

I asked this in another thread....
WTF?!?
Was he hurt?
Why else would we take our "Ultimate Weapon" off the table?

Because, we allow teams to take our game plan from us. Instead of finding creative ways to keep him involved, we shrug and go another route.

barrett
10-01-2009, 03:06 PM
He did get hurt. something with the back of his arm. they put some kind of compression thing on it. He was still in the game. Can't say if thats why they dont go back to him though.

steelbtexan
10-01-2009, 03:19 PM
My Isolated view of this game is that the defense SUCKED big time AGAIN.

The offense only put up 3 pts in the 2nd half. Cant do that with our defense.

The penalty on Walter was a BS call

Chris Brown needs to stop fumbling the ball into the endzone with 2 mins to play.

TheRealJoker
10-01-2009, 03:54 PM
I'm worried about AJ. He wasn't even asked about from my recollection after the game and Kubiak certainly didn't mention him by name whether he was okay. But the fact that we didn't even target him in the second half (the half where we only put up 3 points) makes me think he may have hurt himself far more than the team is letting on (nothing new on that front).

I know he'll play but i'm worried about his effectiveness if he is in fact injured especially when matched up against Assomougha. We dont usually do well when AJ doesn't get the ball. Despite having a talented supporting cast if we use AJ as a "decoy" we aren't gonna score many points. He's our playmaker and he needs to be force fed heaping helpings of pigskin every game.

There's not a DB in the NFL who can take him out of the game as far as i've seen. The only way he's eliminated is if we stop throwing him the ball which is what happened against OAK last year, NY this year, and JAX in the second half.

barrett
10-01-2009, 04:07 PM
Basically, what I saw from the D was more of the same from last week. Before I deleted it on accident, I had even used a section of my assessment from last week verbatim.

It's very frustrating to watch the defense because they are very good about 1/3 of the time, very bad 1/3 of the time and the other 1/3 is really the key to this defense getting better or sucking.

It's the 3rd 1/3 (if you will). In this 1/3, you'll find no less than 8-10 guys doing their jobs on any given play. And doing those jobs quite well I might add. But it's these 1-3 guys
that are completely ****ing it up for everybody else.

When they are very bad it's usually because they are fast. They over persue or they get physically locked out because they are smaller faster guys who can't get off a block. (This is consistent throughout the entire defense. DL, LB's [less so] and CB's.)

When they are very good they are explosive and sound in their gaps and tackling, tight in their coverage etc..

When we give up a 15 yard screen or a 8 yard run or a 57-yard run, a 69-yard pass play and a 91-yard run it's because 1-3 guys just stunk it up.

The only real difference in this is the distance of the yards on the big plays. It's the same types of mistakes by the same people for the most part. There are a few noteworthy players to point out though:

The guys who seem to hurt us the most:

Fred Bennett played one of the worst games I've seen him play but the really bad news is, he didn't play that much worse than is normal for him. He looks so sloppy with his body. It doesn't make sense to me. His arms and legs are just flailing around and his momentum drags him out of the play consistently. He isn't quick to react with his body. If he's playing man once he settles into that point in the route where you kind of have to decide if the receiver is going to sit or keep going and adjust, if he's wrong he can't get out of it quickly enough for him to be a factor.

From a tackling perspective his head is down and he just looks sloppy. He's a big player and should be able to use that to his advantage but his vision or lake there of gets him out of the way because the player he's tackling can adjust but Fred's head is down so he doesn't see it. go to 2:20 in the 3rd and watch a sweep to the right.

Amobi Okoye played better throughout the game than I've seen this season but he is still ineffective the majority of the time. I don't expect the DT's to make plays every down but when you get run out of the play not only are you not effective you're making it even harder on the rest of the team. He gets run out of the play too often and it's severe.

John Busing is having athleticism issues. But I wan't to give him credit because frequently he was left to aide Bennett and that's quite a handicap. You see his lack of athleticism when he lay's the wood on the sideline but bounces off and ends up giving up the TD. I can't say he was playing poor assignment football for the most part but he does contribute to the long TD run for MJD by being out of position. He's just not good enough. His effort is solid. But he's just not helping. Neither is this guy:

Dominique Barber doesn't have half the effort Busing has and he's out of position. go to 14:20 in the 4th and watch his confusion. And he's a poor tackler. Speaking of being a poor tackler, so is this guy:

Dunta Robinson plays with ridiculous spead and quickness. He does exactly the opposite of what Bennett does as far as being able to correct his body and adjust to the play. He plays with good vision and intelligence but the problem is that all that goes out the window on a run play because his tackling is AWFUL. The one thing I can take from this positively is that he can slow the ball carrier in open space giving the rest of the D time to gang tackle. He's small and is trying to arm tackle and he's missing consistently. You can allow him a miss here and there because he plays so aggressively but it's not happening here and there. It's happening regularly. It's a problem. Is he rusty? I don't know. Is he tackling poorly and hurting this team? You bet.

Brian Cushing is making several mistakes. At one point in the game you see him misread and react too slowly to a screen pass. He adjusts and chases the play down and makes the tackle but he jumps up and is furious with himself. It's his third preseason game, he get's a pass. Big time. Because for every mistake he makes he makes twice as many good to great plays. It's a ton of fun to watch him tackle. He's extremely smart on the field and as he works out those rookie mistakes he looks like he's going to be the second smartest guy on the field next to 59. I'm including him in this list though because he is making more mistakes than you might think. But again, he gets a pass. Just like this guy:

Conner Barwin is totally ineffective. It's his 16th game to ever play DE so I'm giving him a pass as well but he is literally taking up a spot on the field and nothing more.


You really get a feel for how scary this scheme is. Often times there is 1 maybe 2 stop gaps per play. If 1 guy screws up you have maybe 1 chance to keep it from blowing up in your face. But when they run it according to play it is scary for the other team. Using the overall quickness of the team to our advantage.

So it's not as bad as you might have thought. 2 of the 4 secondary postions are major major liabilities and the 3rd is "rusty". We're going to try out 1 more guy back there this week so there's hope at S. All 3 LB's are playing exceptionally except when the rookie isn't but then he is on the next play so there's that. 1 of the 4 DL is run out of the play too frequently but did play better than he has at any time this year. So that's hopeful.

Right?

Go Texans.

barrett
10-01-2009, 04:14 PM
My Isolated view of this game is that the defense SUCKED big time AGAIN.

The offense only put up 3 pts in the 2nd half. Cant do that with our defense.

The penalty on Walter was a BS call

Chris Brown needs to stop fumbling the ball into the endzone with 2 mins to play.


Dude, The Texans had a 6 minute drive for FG and two 3 and outs and then drove in for a score. They only had the ball 4 times the final two quarters. Drove to the 8 and kicked a FG, had two three and outs and drove to the 1 and scored a touchdown, had it called back and drove to the goal line and fumbled.

They couldn't get back on the field for the majority of the 2nd half because of the D. But then the D got them the ball back when the O couldn't get it done. Give some credit where credit is due.

TheRealJoker
10-01-2009, 04:22 PM
You really get a feel for how scary this scheme is. Often times there is 1 maybe 2 stop gaps per play. If 1 guy screws up you have maybe 1 chance to keep it from blowing up in your face. But when they run it according to play it is scary for the other team. Using the overall quickness of the team to our advantage.



You would think the team would place more value on the safety position with a scheme so risky that if your safety screws up you could be looking at a td on that play. Yet we are content to have our insurance policy be street FAs and late round draft picks...

And we wonder why the defense cant get it right?

barrett
10-01-2009, 04:28 PM
Because, we allow teams to take our game plan from us. Instead of finding creative ways to keep him involved, we shrug and go another route.

Schaub shrugged for 300 yards and 3 TD's. The running game shrugged for 120 yards.

Kal
10-01-2009, 04:28 PM
Basically, what I saw from the D was more of the same from last week. Before I deleted it on accident, I had even used a section of my assessment from last week verbatim.



The only real difference in this is the distance of the yards on the big plays. It's the same types of mistakes by the same people for the most part. There are a few noteworthy players to point out though:

The guys who seem to hurt us the most:

Fred Bennett played one of the worst games I've seen him play but the really bad news is, he didn't play that much worse than is normal for him. He looks so sloppy with his body. It doesn't make sense to me. His arms and legs are just flailing around and his momentum drags him out of the play consistently. He isn't quick to react with his body. If he's playing man once he settles into that point in the route where you kind of have to decide if the receiver is going to sit or keep going and adjust, if he's wrong he can't get out of it quickly enough for him to be a factor.

From a tackling perspective his head is down and he just looks sloppy. He's a big player and should be able to use that to his advantage but his vision or lake there of gets him out of the way because the player he's tackling can adjust but Fred's head is down so he doesn't see it. go to 2:20 in the 3rd and watch a sweep to the right.

Amobi Okoye played better throughout the game than I've seen this season but he is still ineffective the majority of the time. I don't expect the DT's to make plays every down but when you get run out of the play not only are you not effective you're making it even harder on the rest of the team. He gets run out of the play too often and it's severe.

John Busing is having athleticism issues. But I wan't to give him credit because frequently he was left to aide Bennett and that's quite a handicap. You see his lack of athleticism when he lay's the wood on the sideline but bounces off and ends up giving up the TD. I can't say he was playing poor assignment football for the most part but he does contribute to the long TD run for MJD by being out of position. He's just not good enough. His effort is solid. But he's just not helping. Neither is this guy:

Dominique Barber doesn't have half the effort Busing has and he's out of position. go to 14:20 in the 4th and watch his confusion. And he's a poor tackler. Speaking of being a poor tackler, so is this guy:

Dunta Robinson plays with ridiculous spead and quickness. He does exactly the opposite of what Bennett does as far as being able to correct his body and adjust to the play. He plays with good vision and intelligence but the problem is that all that goes out the window on a run play because his tackling is AWFUL. The one thing I can take from this positively is that he can slow the ball carrier in open space giving the rest of the D time to gang tackle. He's small and is trying to arm tackle and he's missing consistently. You can allow him a miss here and there because he plays so aggressively but it's not happening here and there. It's happening regularly. It's a problem. Is he rusty? I don't know. Is he tackling poorly and hurting this team? You bet.

Brian Cushing is making several mistakes. At one point in the game you see him misread and react too slowly to a screen pass. He adjusts and chases the play down and makes the tackle but he jumps up and is furious with himself. It's his third preseason game, he get's a pass. Big time. Because for every mistake he makes he makes twice as many good to great plays. It's a ton of fun to watch him tackle. He's extremely smart on the field and as he works out those rookie mistakes he looks like he's going to be the second smartest guy on the field next to 59. I'm including him in this list though because he is making more mistakes than you might think. But again, he gets a pass. Just like this guy:

Conner Barwin is totally ineffective. It's his 16th game to ever play DE so I'm giving him a pass as well but he is literally taking up a spot on the field and nothing more.


You really get a feel for how scary this scheme is. Often times there is 1 maybe 2 stop gaps per play. If 1 guy screws up you have maybe 1 chance to keep it from blowing up in your face. But when they run it according to play it is scary for the other team. Using the overall quickness of the team to our advantage.

So it's not as bad as you might have thought. 2 of the 4 secondary postions are major major liabilities and the 3rd is "rusty". We're going to try out 1 more guy back there this week so there's hope at S. All 3 LB's are playing exceptionally except when the rookie isn't but then he is on the next play so there's that. 1 of the 4 DL is run out of the play too frequently but did play better than he has at any time this year. So that's hopeful.

Right?

Go Texans.

Theres not much Id disagree with there. I thought Barwin was better in limited action this week, than when you tried to force him on the field at every opportunity last week.

Other than that most of the time I'd just be agreeing with you. The run support of your secondary is atrocious.

On the plus side I'm really liking Matt Schaub right now, week one was a nightmare and he's been upper echelon the past two weeks. Duane Brown gave up a sack, but for the most part is a different player to what he was last year. I watch the Texans a lot (every game I've analysed them so far) and they strike me as a team that is going to win games they shouldn't, and lose games you wouldn't expect them to. Consistency is the issue right now.

But I'm probably not saying anything you don't already know

ObsiWan
10-01-2009, 04:29 PM
He did get hurt. something with the back of his arm. they put some kind of compression thing on it. He was still in the game. Can't say if thats why they dont go back to him though.

I remember he landed awkwardly after a catch/tackle and went to the sidelines.
...but I thought he returned to the game.

Funny that no one mentioned AJ getting "nicked up"... not Kubiak (no surprise there), none of the media, nobody

barrett
10-01-2009, 04:30 PM
You would think the team would place more value on the safety position with a scheme so risky that if your safety screws up you could be looking at a td on that play. Yet we are content to have our insurance policy be street FAs and late round draft picks...

And we wonder why the defense cant get it right?

Who would you have liked them to get? I can't think of anyone available that we could have added.

barrett
10-01-2009, 04:35 PM
I remember he landed awkwardly after a catch/tackle and went to the sidelines.
...but I thought he returned to the game.

Funny that no one mentioned AJ getting "nicked up"... not Kubiak (no surprise there), none of the media, nobody

It may not have been an issue. It seemed to me that they really tried to stick with the run in the 2nd half. When they did go to the air in those two 3 and out drives there were issues with the OLine. I don't know that they "went away" from him, there just weren't many opportunities and they were chewing it up on the other two drives so I don't really feel like the scheme was disrupted. I think they did the old "if you're gonna cover 80, we'll throw to all these other guys." thing.

TheRealJoker
10-01-2009, 04:50 PM
Who would you have liked them to get? I can't think of anyone available that we could have added.


Brian Dawkins would've been a much better addition than resigning Eugene Wilson if we're looking for a stopgap free safety. Seeing as he was the leader of one of the best defenses of the last decade I think some of his knowledge might just rub off on our youngsters on the backend. "Gap issues" as the coaches claim as the problem would be less of an issue with a smart vet like Dawkins patrolling the backfield and making sure whoever we line up at SS is doing their job.

We could've also added Rashad Johnson at FS instead of drafting Antoine Caldwell in the 3rd who isn't even suited up on gameday. I would hope he could be an upgrade. I'm okay with passing on William Moore because I think Connor Barwin has more upside...and he should show that upside whenever we hold a team to under 200 yards rushing.

Could've signed Sean Jones in the offseason for SS help. Or we could've made a play for Yeremiah Bell.

That's just this year's options that were available. You could fill up a phonebook with the amount of guys we could've had at safety instead of the Matt Stevens, CC Browns, Dominique Barber and John Busings of the world.

barrett
10-01-2009, 04:57 PM
What are those guys doing this year? I'm not being ironic. I'm asking honestly. Nobody got Bell away from Miami.

I don't see Dawkins for Wilson. Wilson is the 1 guy in the secondary actually doing his job well.

What are the others doing?

TheRealJoker
10-01-2009, 05:14 PM
What are those guys doing this year? I'm not being ironic. I'm asking honestly. Nobody got Bell away from Miami.

I don't see Dawkins for Wilson. Wilson is the 1 guy in the secondary actually doing his job well.

What are the others doing?

Dawkins is a key contributor on the 3-0 Broncos. He would be a huge upgrade over Wilson. Just because Wilson is playing next to some of the worst players on the field every Sunday doesn't mean he cant be upgraded. Dawkins has 20 tackles in 3 games, Eugene has 5 tackles and 1 INT (that was thrown directly to him) in 2 games. Considering the poor tackling in the secondary Eugene should be getting a lot more tackles than that. I would be willing to bet that Dawkins would!

Rashad Johnson has as many tackles as Eugene (probably coming off special teams) but AZ has two good safeties in front of him in Antrel Rolle and Adrian Wilson.

Sean Jones has 6 tackles in Philly as a backup in 2 games playing behind stud SS Quintin Mikell. For some reason, I think he could break into our lineup inside of a week if he were to sign here...

The point is, there were options. As there are every year that could've upgraded the team yet we chose not to explore those options.

barrett
10-01-2009, 07:58 PM
hmmm, but at what cost?

dalemurphy
10-01-2009, 08:09 PM
hmmm, but at what cost?

could've had Sean Jones for less than $2million for one year. He's 27 years old and has a high ceiling. Also, he's played at near probowl level at points in his career.

steelbtexan
10-01-2009, 08:17 PM
Dude, The Texans had a 6 minute drive for FG and two 3 and outs and then drove in for a score. They only had the ball 4 times the final two quarters. Drove to the 8 and kicked a FG, had two three and outs and drove to the 1 and scored a touchdown, had it called back and drove to the goal line and fumbled.

They couldn't get back on the field for the majority of the 2nd half because of the D. But then the D got them the ball back when the O couldn't get it done. Give some credit where credit is due.

I see what you're saying but with the Texans defense the bottom line is if the offense only scores 3 pts in a half they're going to lose.

This game came down to two things.

1. Chris Browns fumble cost the Texans a chance to win the game. With 2:00 left I believe that the Jags had plenty of time to drive down the field and score a game winning TD
2. The Jags went for it on their last TD drive they went for it on 4th and 1. on the Texans FG drive they had the 4th and 1 at the 8 that you mentioned and decided to kick the FG instead of going for it. I'm not saying it was a bad choice but the Texans spent the rest of the game chasing those 4 points.

It's sad that the 2nd thing shouldn't have come into play if the Texans defense wasn't the worst defense in NFL history statisically through 3 games.

Which is sad considering the amount of high draft picks that have been spent (wasted in some cases) on the defense.

steelbtexan
10-01-2009, 08:29 PM
The Broncos added two FA's to their secondary on the cheap Dawkins and Goodman.

How would they look at CB and SS in the Texans secondary right now?

It seems as though Kubes doesn't want many FA vets on this team. That lack of leadership on the feild is killing this team right now. IMO

Could this be Kubes not wanting a veteran ? the way he does things in front of the young guys or is McNair not wanting to spend money in FA?

TheRealJoker
10-01-2009, 09:10 PM
hmmm, but at what cost?

We've got cap room and didn't make moves for upgrades to a 1-2 football team giving up 200+ yards rushing a game and you're talking about cost?

A helluva lot cheaper than 200+ yards a game on the ground and watching an offenses biggest threat go uncovered for an easy td. I'm as big of a homer as everyone else (just look at my avatar) but there is no way to rationalize the team's undervaluing of the safety position. They dropped the ball and if Pollard cant come in here and be a bandaid that will hold on long enough for us to knock opposing team's rushing totals in half and get us into the playoffs its gonna cost Kubiak his job.

TheRealJoker
10-01-2009, 09:12 PM
could've had Sean Jones for less than $2million for one year. He's 27 years old and has a high ceiling. Also, he's played at near probowl level at points in his career.

We're paying $1 million more for our 3rd string QB!

That's how much the Texans value the safety position...

Imagine how much better this defense would look with Dawkins/Jones in the secondary :(

Dawkins' veteran leadership alone would've been invaluable...DAMN YOU SMITHIAK!!!

barrett
10-02-2009, 03:52 AM
We've got cap room and didn't make moves for upgrades to a 1-2 football team giving up 200+ yards rushing a game and you're talking about cost?

A helluva lot cheaper than 200+ yards a game on the ground and watching an offenses biggest threat go uncovered for an easy td. I'm as big of a homer as everyone else (just look at my avatar) but there is no way to rationalize the team's undervaluing of the safety position. They dropped the ball and if Pollard cant come in here and be a bandaid that will hold on long enough for us to knock opposing team's rushing totals in half and get us into the playoffs its gonna cost Kubiak his job.

Well, yeah. I mean, with all the guys this team has to re-sign, You have to look at the long term value of signing veteran FA's.

Furthermore, nothing stated suggests that Kubiak is in a position to loose his job. I think he's much more secure that many give him credit for. I think the owner believes that Kubiak could be a great coach for a long time to come. Based on his steady demeanor I tend to agree with him. In this league having stability is worth a ton especially if a coach has shown subtle flashes of greatness.

TheRealJoker
10-02-2009, 08:12 AM
I guess actually spending to the salary cap limit and getting some veteran leaders on a young team that needs it to increase their shot at the playoffs is way too much of a cost if it might jeopardize the mediocrity we've become accustomed to having on this team...