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BrandonLwowski
09-28-2009, 10:47 AM
After his performance yesterday i think people should start believing in him again. In my opinion since slaton was running hard that game they shouldve gave it to him instead of chris brown on that last play. He was running hard, and making his one-cut and go running style. He had many +10 gains and was not losing yards like he did the last two games. In my opinion, if slaton is running good, he averged more than 6 yards a carry this game, keep going with him, dont throw in chris brown on the goalline. Hopefully he makes another big improvement next week against oakland.

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 11:08 AM
After his performance yesterday i think people should start believing in him again. In my opinion since slaton was running hard that game they shouldve gave it to him instead of chris brown on that last play. He was running hard, and making his one-cut and go running style. He had many +10 gains and was not losing yards like he did the last two games. In my opinion, if slaton is running good, he averged more than 6 yards a carry this game, keep going with him, dont throw in chris brown on the goalline. Hopefully he makes another big improvement next week against oakland.

We couldn't run when it matters.. which impacts our ability to score in the red zone.. we couldn't run against the jaguars either, and they aren't the stud defensive line of the year. Slaton is part of the team that is responsible for running the ball and that part of our game offensively is MISERABLE.

- fumbles
- lack of productivity to open the holes
- lack of vision to see the holes if they open
- screen passes have SUCKED all year except for a couple.
- lack of ability to hit the corner
- lackluster play calling, aka we keep hitting our head against the same spot on the wall.

Until we can start dominating the offensive line we'll continue to have this issue.. which means all year long cause we can't put our pads down and blow people off the balls.. We lack balls/strength/agility/technique..

Texan JBZ
09-28-2009, 11:16 AM
We couldn't run when it matters.. which impacts our ability to score in the red zone.. we couldn't run against the jaguars either, and they aren't the stud defensive line of the year. Slaton is part of the team that is responsible for running the ball and that part of our game offensively is MISERABLE.

- fumbles
- lack of productivity to open the holes
- lack of vision to see the holes if they open
- screen passes have SUCKED all year except for a couple.
- lack of ability to hit the corner
- lackluster play calling, aka we keep hitting our head against the same spot on the wall.

Until we can start dominating the offensive line we'll continue to have this issue.. which means all year long cause we can't put our pads down and blow people off the balls.. We lack balls/strength/agility/technique..

I don't agree with everything in your post. I think playcalling was very good yesterday. You have to stick to your core system and keep working at it. They've changed some of the sets and alignments, but no team in the NFL is going to completely change their offensive mindset during the season.

The Texans problem is that the backs are not getting up into the holes fast enough, or are not recognizing flow and cutting the ball back. The cutback run is one of the staples of the zone. Slaton and Brown have refused to cutback all season long, preferring to remain on the strong side where teams are heavily pursuing them. Slaton still looks very undecisive to me. It's like he's not trusting in his ability anymore. He also has lost some open field burst. I don't know what happened to him over the offseason, but he's not the Steve Slaton of last season.

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 11:21 AM
I don't agree with everything in your post. I think playcalling was very good yesterday. You have to stick to your core system and keep working at it. They've changed some of the sets and alignments, but no team in the NFL is going to completely change their offensive mindset during the season.



- You don't throw the ball one time to Andre and our playcalling is good?
- You can't find a way to get him lined up to isolate/confuse the coverage?
- You throw to the fullback 3 times for a total of 7 yards on long down and distance?
- You throw a screen play on 3rd and 17 when we are behind late in the game?

Don't get me wrong the defense stunk, but so did our offense the second half..

Denver could put a no name running back in their zone based scheme and he would rush for 100 yard games almost back to back. The system isn't difficult but for some reason for us it is. How many RB's have we gone through in the last few years? A lot..

Hervoyel
09-28-2009, 11:27 AM
I don't agree with everything in your post. I think playcalling was very good yesterday. You have to stick to your core system and keep working at it. They've changed some of the sets and alignments, but no team in the NFL is going to completely change their offensive mindset during the season.

The Texans problem is that the backs are not getting up into the holes fast enough, or are not recognizing flow and cutting the ball back. The cutback run is one of the staples of the zone. Slaton and Brown have refused to cutback all season long, preferring to remain on the strong side where teams are heavily pursuing them. Slaton still looks very undecisive to me. It's like he's not trusting in his ability anymore. He also has lost some open field burst. I don't know what happened to him over the offseason, but he's not the Steve Slaton of last season.


The 2005 Texans did this when they panicked right before after the season started. It led to predictable results (everybody got fired). You're right. It's not going to change and our offensive mindset shouldn't change.

Defense on the other hand....

BigBull17
09-28-2009, 11:54 AM
- You don't throw the ball one time to Andre and our playcalling is good?
- You can't find a way to get him lined up to isolate/confuse the coverage?
- You throw to the fullback 3 times for a total of 7 yards on long down and distance?
- You throw a screen play on 3rd and 17 when we are behind late in the game?

Don't get me wrong the defense stunk, but so did our offense the second half..

Denver could put a no name running back in their zone based scheme and he would rush for 100 yard games almost back to back. The system isn't difficult but for some reason for us it is. How many RB's have we gone through in the last few years? A lot..

And where is Casey in those situations? Why bother drafting him just to have him bring you coffee? Why draft a blocking tight end, keep him on the roster, and NEVER activate him?

TimeKiller
09-28-2009, 01:45 PM
Seems like the blocking is more a problem than Stevie Wonder. Although that nickname is going to bring on a whole new meaning if he doesn't start seeing the holes. They were there yesterday and he had a few good runs. I wouldn't call the run game "back" but maybe..."awake".

hot pickle
09-28-2009, 02:35 PM
the offense was great yesterday... no one should even bring up that side of the ball in the lose.. it was the defense and it will be the defense all year round.. like i said yesterday there is obsolutly no excuse for the jags putting up 31 points on us... it was the DEFENSE... but cushing was awesome... exept on the gerard TD lol

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 02:43 PM
Seems like the blocking is more a problem than Stevie Wonder. Although that nickname is going to bring on a whole new meaning if he doesn't start seeing the holes. They were there yesterday and he had a few good runs. I wouldn't call the run game "back" but maybe..."awake".

Don't get me wrong but two turnovers that basically take at least 7 points off the ball, and we can't stuff it in from the 1 which results in a field goal. The offense played good but they still made some mistakes. 2 turnovers != a great game.

Look at our second half production, it's really where we broke down on offense.

Brisco_County
09-28-2009, 02:47 PM
The run game was satisfactory. Chris Brown's run to the endzone minus the fumble was proof that we could make it work when we needed it.

GuerillaBlack
09-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I still don't know why we put in Chris Brown in the endzone. Late Slaton run it. The guy was doing good.

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 02:59 PM
I still don't know why we put in Chris Brown in the endzone. Late Slaton run it. The guy was doing good.

He has put the ball on the ground what 3 times in the first two games? That and his inability to get the tough yards.

TimeKiller
09-28-2009, 03:07 PM
Don't get me wrong but two turnovers that basically take at least 7 points off the ball, and we can't stuff it in from the 1 which results in a field goal. The offense played good but they still made some mistakes. 2 turnovers != a great game.

Look at our second half production, it's really where we broke down on offense.

What?

MannyFresh
09-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Want a elusive RB like MJ-D or similiar....check Oregon State's Jacquizz Rodgers...and he's a hometown boy.

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 03:19 PM
What?

- Count the # of turnovers we had.
- Count the # of points we left on the field.
- Look at our second half production.

There is chances we missed on offense, we can do better on offense still. Defensively it's quite obvious we need help in a TON of areas.

JDizzle
09-28-2009, 06:08 PM
I still don't know why we put in Chris Brown in the endzone. Late Slaton run it. The guy was doing good.

I like the strategy myself. Brown fumbled it so now everyone is second guessing, but I think going forward we should stick with it.

rmartin65
09-28-2009, 06:18 PM
Want a elusive RB like MJ-D or similiar....check Oregon State's Jacquizz Rodgers...and he's a hometown boy.

Hell no. Get a power back, someone who can at least fall forward for a yard or two should the line get crushed. Rodgers just screams bust. And who gives if he is a hometown boy. Just draft players dammit.