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Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 05:36 PM
You're soft......softer than baby shit after a double dose of ex-lax.

You're soft mentally...

You're soft physically...

You play soft...

and worst of all......you're coached to be soft and all of your "tough guy" talk and your best impersonations of a tough team aren't enough to change the league's impression of the truth. Bart Scott and Rex Ryan were spot on and no matter how many times you play patty cake with opposing teams on the sideline or bark at opposing players, people are still going to treat you like the prison ***** that you are when you're getting repeatedly truck over or simply ran past for 60+ yard TDs....

Reliant Stadium.......where the softest team in the NFL plays.

I really enjoyed JDR laughing on the sideline all day long.....he knows, everybody knows, it's no secret.

nero THE zero
09-27-2009, 05:45 PM
This whole soft thing is so overplayed.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 05:51 PM
This whole soft thing is so overplayed.

Not really......it's a mentality. That's why the Jets or doing so good (as well as other "tough" teams)...you think it's overplayed, go talk to Singletary and the 49ers. Those teams have a "punch you in the mouth" swagger about them, we don't.

SheTexan
09-27-2009, 05:53 PM
Our team is not soft!! It's just poorly coached! We have a HC that is SOFT, and has NO freaking clue how to prepare his team for a game! When the same mistakes are made over and over again, look to the sideline for someone to blame!! JMO!!

euro-Texan
09-27-2009, 05:53 PM
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.

Ckw
09-27-2009, 05:59 PM
Two years ago, San Francisco had a worse defense than us. We were 24 and they were 25 in total defense and in points per game, they were 20 and we were 22. This year while we are almost dead last in both categories, San Fran is 7 in total yards and 4 in points per game. Don't tell me a tough coach can't make a ton of difference. San Fran does not have much more talent than us on defense yet their guys play with fire. What I would give right now to have hired Singletary instead of Kubiak...

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:04 PM
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.

We are soft.. there's no way around it. When you give up that many yards/big plays week in and week out, teams are licking their chops to smack your soft ass around.

Yes our offense played well, but we can't even consistently run the ball and have no rushing TDs this season.....again, SOFT.

I mean come on..it's time to call a spade a spade, we have a royal flush of softness.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:06 PM
Our team is not soft!! It's just poorly coached! We have a HC that is SOFT!

.....and teams take on the personality of their head coach, so....

All that shit trickles down from top, good or bad.

Hervoyel
09-27-2009, 06:12 PM
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.


It's good that you already know the team cheer.

Wolf
09-27-2009, 06:15 PM
to me again we are the little kid on the block that everybody knows but gets pushed around, well the kid tries to stand up for himself and take on the bully and show the bully that he is big now and can fend for himself, only to get beat up again.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:16 PM
It's good that you already know the team cheer.

:spit: Ain't that the truth...

JB
09-27-2009, 06:17 PM
I don't know if they are soft or not...

but they are certainly un-disciplined and down right stupid at times!

Craig.
09-27-2009, 06:17 PM
Our team is not soft!! It's just poorly coached! We have a HC that is SOFT, and has NO freaking clue how to prepare his team for a game! When the same mistakes are made over and over again, look to the sideline for someone to blame!! JMO!!

I may be alone in this but I didn't think today's loss was on Kubes at all.

euro-Texan
09-27-2009, 06:17 PM
I think you guys are reading way to much into this. Our defense is young and lacking a couple of players.

euro-Texan
09-27-2009, 06:18 PM
I may be alone in this but I didn't think today's loss was on Kubes at all.

Not at all, unless people were expecting him to make some tackles too.

Wolf
09-27-2009, 06:19 PM
all I can say is games like this will not let kubiak keep his job ..whether the offense scores 30 points a game or not ..he made HIS choice of DC and so where does an owner go after that?

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:21 PM
I think you guys are reading way to much into this. Our defense is young and lacking a couple of players.

There's a WHOLE lot more wrong with this defense than just that.

Youth is not a excuse, espcially when one of the young guys (Cushing) has been one of your best defensive players...

Houston is out of position WAY too much for this to just be a "personnel" issue...there's a coaching problem here as well.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:23 PM
I may be alone in this but I didn't think today's loss was on Kubes at all.

His decision to hire within a defensive coaching staff that SUCKED year after year was a BIG reason for today's loss.

Look at the Saints with Greg Williams. Kubiak didn't even hold a open interview for a replacement.

edo783
09-27-2009, 06:31 PM
Look at the Saints with Greg Williams.

That's the guy I wanted us to get or Singeltary if he was available for some reason.

Norg
09-27-2009, 06:35 PM
We are not soft yall fail to releize this is a healthy JAgs team not the jags from last year

A divison game yall must not know these can go either way !!!!!!!!!!

do yall really think we will be able to sweep the jags colts and titans maybe one but not all 3

Marcus
09-27-2009, 06:37 PM
I think the all red uniforms are soft. :hides:

euro-Texan
09-27-2009, 06:41 PM
There's a WHOLE lot more wrong with this defense than just that.

Youth is not a excuse, espcially when one of the young guys (Cushing) has been one of your best defensive players...

Houston is out of position WAY too much for this to just be a "personnel" issue...there's a coaching problem here as well.

Look how bad the Tacks are minus 1 player on defense.

euro-Texan
09-27-2009, 06:42 PM
I think the all red uniforms are soft. :hides:

I'm starting to think the fans are.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:47 PM
We are not soft yall fail to releize this is a healthy JAgs team not the jags from last year

A divison game yall must not know these can go either way !!!!!!!!!!

do yall really think we will be able to sweep the jags colts and titans maybe one but not all 3

LMAO.....I'm not just talking about this game, I'm talking about every game so far this season. (including preseason)

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 06:48 PM
I'm starting to think the fans are.

Give me a break....if Houston Texan fans were soft, this board wouldn't even be here, because people would've stopped watching Houston a LONG time ago.

This team could exactly take a note from their fans.

Norg
09-27-2009, 06:55 PM
LMAO.....I'm not just talking about this game, I'm talking about every game so far this season. (including preseason)


Ok we are soft but not the sofest

We are the Kings of the loser team a middle of the pack team but us aganist the browns Bills or the Miami and we will straight school them watch u will see when we play the bills and miami

TexansSeminole
09-27-2009, 07:04 PM
Ok we are soft but not the sofest

We are the Kings of the loser team a middle of the pack team but us aganist the browns Bills or the Miami and we will straight school them watch u will see when we play the bills and miami

Oooooooo King of the loser team. Awesome.

HJam72
09-27-2009, 07:15 PM
I think the all red uniforms are soft. :hides:

I don't know, but they are kind of gay.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Give me a break....if Houston Texan fans were soft, this board wouldn't even be here, because people would've stopped watching Houston a LONG time ago.

This team could exactly take a note from their fans.

Maybe. Maybe some folks - and I ain't callin' no names - just like to have something to b!tch about. I have noticed some folks post a lot more after a loss than after a win.
...I'm just sayin'

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 07:24 PM
Maybe. Maybe some folks - and I ain't callin' no names - just like to have something to b!tch about. I have noticed some folks post a lot more after a loss than after a win.
...I'm just sayin'

Go ahead and name names....

I just speak the truth, point out where what I'm saying isn't accurate.

I mean I'm sorry you're tired of the "bitching" LOL, but it's not like our team has given us alot to praise so far this season or in recent years. How about posting a winning season or even win games they should win.....I guarantee you things would get ALOT more positive around here.

Silver Oak
09-27-2009, 07:36 PM
Give me a break....if Houston Texan fans were soft, this board wouldn't even be here, because people would've stopped watching Houston a LONG time ago.

This team could exactly take a note from their fans.

I didn't hear one boo in Tennesse last week when those fans saw an underdog beating their team. Boo birds at Reliant are out early these days IMO.

Ckw
09-27-2009, 07:38 PM
I didn't hear one boo in Tennesse last week when those fans saw an underdog beating their team. Boo birds at Reliant are out early these days IMO.

I think we are just finally getting tired of watching the same crap. The boos didn't just start occurring because of one or two bad games; it has been due to seven full years of crap football.

Dishman
09-27-2009, 07:53 PM
I think we are just finally getting tired of watching the same crap. The boos didn't just start occurring because of one or two bad games; it has been due to seven full years of crap football.

A few more home losses and the cumulative effect of the booing will result in Kubiak being chased out of town a la Tim Pupura.

TexanBacker93
09-27-2009, 07:55 PM
Soft? Man come on! Our offense played well and Our D just needs to come together and they will. We easily could have won this game.

That's one of the issues with this team and the HC. Too many games we are saying we COULD have won it. They have to start winning them not just coulda won them. That was ok in the 1st and even 2nd seasons, but it's old. I'm not saying anything about their softness or lack of it. I just get tired of the "hey if this play happened or that play happened we could've won" mentality that I think some of the players have as well. That goes for every team (almost) in the NFL.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 07:56 PM
I didn't hear one boo in Tennesse last week when those fans saw an underdog beating their team. Boo birds at Reliant are out early these days IMO.

Well, you can't hear boos when it's a away game, but I find it hard to believe that Texan fans wouldn't be booing if they saw Chris Johnson rip their team a new one and run uncovered into the endzone early in that game.

There's a reason why Boo birds are out early these days, it's because the team has played like crap.....especially at home, that and fans are tired of losing year after year after year after year after year ect. $70 a ticket, they haver every right to boo.

TexanBacker93
09-27-2009, 07:59 PM
We are not soft yall fail to releize this is a healthy JAgs team not the jags from last year

A divison game yall must not know these can go either way !!!!!!!!!!

do yall really think we will be able to sweep the jags colts and titans maybe one but not all 3

I'm not saying they should have swept them, but you should win on your own turf. You have to win division games at home. Jacksonville's offense didn't look good against Indy or Arizona (neither of which will be mistaken for the '86 Bears by the way). Our defense was awful against them.

TexanBacker93
09-27-2009, 08:01 PM
I don't know, but they are kind of gay.

I like the red on red a lot when the team wins. When they lose....

Actually, I could care less what color they wear if they win. They could wear pink. I wonder how that would affect the whole soft issue?

Silver Oak
09-27-2009, 08:23 PM
Well, you can't hear boos when it's a away game, but I find it hard to believe that Texan fans wouldn't be booing if they saw Chris Johnson rip their team a new one and run uncovered into the endzone early in that game.

There's a reason why Boo birds are out early these days, it's because the team has played like crap.....especially at home, that and fans are tired of losing year after year after year after year after year ect. $70 a ticket, they haver every right to boo.

fans also have a right to stay home if they're that unhappy. I encourage them to do just that. wanting improvement is one thing, but some fans, and MB posters, are just filled with a rage not easy to understand.

it's as if they actually enjoy the bitching after a loss more than savoring a win. sick huh?

CloakNNNdagger
09-27-2009, 08:26 PM
Winston need to turn to his team mates stay nose to nose with his team mates with "Let's go.......you and me...........right here.........right now!!!" In fact someone need to confront Kubiak, the coaches.......and even McNair with the same.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 08:48 PM
fans also have a right to stay home if they're that unhappy. I encourage them to do just that. wanting improvement is one thing, but some fans, and MB posters, are just filled with a rage not easy to understand.

it's as if they actually enjoy the bitching after a loss more than savoring a win. sick huh?

:rolleyes:

This is the NFL, not "pop rah rah" football where everybody gets a damn trophy. People cheer when they're given things to cheer about and complain when their team is playing like hammered dog crap and lead the league in some horrible categories.

If a fan pays a shitload of money for a ticket, they have every right to boo their ass off. Trust me, NOBODY ENJOYS going to a game and booing more than going to a game and watching their team win......that's just dumb.

Silver Oak
09-27-2009, 08:54 PM
:rolleyes:


If a fan pays a shitload of money for a ticket, they have every right to boo their ass off. Trust me, NOBODY ENJOYS going to a game and booing more than going to a game and watching their team win......that's just dumb.

based on the message board posts these past 3 weeks, there is a pattern of who posts, what they post, and how much they post.

my point is, if it's so terrible for these folks...just sell your tickets and stay home.

we all want improvement, but there is a segment who seems to really enjoy piling on more than others.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 09:00 PM
based on the message board posts these past 3 weeks, there is a pattern of who posts, what they post, and how much they post.

my point is, if it's so terrible for these folks...just sell your tickets and stay home.

we all want improvement, but there is a segment who seems to really enjoy piling on more than others.

All long as they're buying tickets I don't care. I bet Jacksonville would gladly take about 35,000 bitchy fans right now. If things keep on going the way that they are, something worse might happen......those "bitchy fans" might actually stay home.

Buffi2
09-27-2009, 09:07 PM
Soft? I don't think we are particularly soft - poorly coached? sometimes- poor draft/fa? I think so. Still not enough skilled players on defense - we need a good tackle, (actually, we need everyone to learn how to tackle), we certainly need a good secondary. I don't know how other coaches/GMs manage to get good players in a matter of a year or two - but Rick and Kubes need to check into that cuz what we are getting isn't working.

This great desire to have refined, intelligent defensive players may look great -but it is time for Plan B. We need some kind of 300 lb defender who lives for only two things - eat and hit people.

Tedc
09-27-2009, 09:23 PM
Winston need to turn to his team mates stay nose to nose with his team mates with "Let's go.......you and me...........right here.........right now!!!" In fact someone need to confront Kubiak, the coaches.......and even McNair with the same.

I am just not sure what to say. We all know we should be better, but are we?

imatexan
09-27-2009, 10:11 PM
Not sure why I waste my time reading Carr Bobmbed frustrated posts each week, they all start and end pretty much the same.
:headhurts:

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 11:31 PM
Not sure why I waste my time reading Carr Bobmbed frustrated posts each week, they all start and end pretty much the same.
:headhurts:

Much like Houston's games huh...you know, being embarrassed with god awful defensive play...and making mediocre offenses look all world while surrendering about a gazillion rushing yards on the ground and giving up about 30 points a game. :headhurts: Yeah, it makes me cover my eyes too.

I know, I even get tired of repeating myself as well....I'd love nothing more than to have something positive to talk about, but as long as our defense sucks as bad as it does and as long as we look soft as hell. Positive topics are going to be few and far between.

Here's a few positives from the game though....Kevin Walter looks like he picked up where he left off last season? Owen Daniels looks like he's going to set a new career high in TD receptions, Schaub looks like he's going to have a probowl year (don't know if he'll get voted in on this team though) buuuuuttt.........that's about it. Oh and Steve Slaton looked better.....now that's about all the positives.

Double Barrel
09-27-2009, 11:39 PM
I don't know about "soft"...that's a perspective issue...but all I know is that I'm seeing a bunch of uninspired players playing unprepared on defense. Who/what/where the blame goes for that is up for debate, but the head coach needs to take charge of the situation soon if he wants to keep his job, IMO.

Carr Bombed
09-27-2009, 11:48 PM
I don't know about "soft"...that's a perspective issue...but all I know is that I'm seeing a bunch of uninspired players playing unprepared on defense. Who/what/where the blame goes for that is up for debate, but the head coach needs to take charge of the situation soon if he wants to keep his job, IMO.

If you would've told me at the end of last season that our defense could actually get worse, I would've laughed in your face. Seriously did anybody ever think this defense could actaully get WORSE?

Frank Bush is making miss Richard Smith and that's extremely depressing.

Norg
09-28-2009, 12:59 AM
Texans :P

http://i31.tinypic.com/bgbj83.gif

RagingBull
09-28-2009, 01:34 AM
Two years ago, San Francisco had a worse defense than us. We were 24 and they were 25 in total defense and in points per game, they were 20 and we were 22. This year while we are almost dead last in both categories, San Fran is 7 in total yards and 4 in points per game. Don't tell me a tough coach can't make a ton of difference. San Fran does not have much more talent than us on defense yet their guys play with fire. What I would give right now to have hired Singletary instead of Kubiak...

Weird. Last year Denver was 29th in total Defense, 27th in Rush Defense, and 26th in Pass Defense, and 30th in Points per game.

They hired the guy that couldn't get it done in San Fran (Mike Nolan), and lo and behold so far they are 1st in total Defense, 2nd in Pass Defense, 8th in Rush Defense, and 1st in points.

How do you explain that?

GNTLEWOLF
09-28-2009, 01:49 AM
Weird. Last year Denver was 29th in total Defense, 27th in Rush Defense, and 26th in Pass Defense, and 30th in Points per game.

They hired the guy that couldn't get it done in San Fran (Mike Nolan), and lo and behold so far they are 1st in total Defense, 2nd in Pass Defense, 8th in Rush Defense, and 1st in points.

How do you explain that?

I would say Nolan is not a good HC but a great DC

Ckw
09-28-2009, 02:18 AM
Weird. Last year Denver was 29th in total Defense, 27th in Rush Defense, and 26th in Pass Defense, and 30th in Points per game.

They hired the guy that couldn't get it done in San Fran (Mike Nolan), and lo and behold so far they are 1st in total Defense, 2nd in Pass Defense, 8th in Rush Defense, and 1st in points.

How do you explain that?

Was about to answer you until...

I would say Nolan is not a good HC but a great DC

I saw this post right below it. Rep your way GW. Nolan has coached some very good defenses when he was able to solely focus on defense. He just wasn't a good HC.

mootini
09-28-2009, 02:22 AM
All long as they're buying tickets I don't care. I bet Jacksonville would gladly take about 35,000 bitchy fans right now. If things keep on going the way that they are, something worse might happen......those "bitchy fans" might actually stay home.

Agreed! Carbomb, We had 38k bitchy fans at the last Jags game vs. Cards. Add another 35k...no blackouts. We used to have ALL those bitchy fans, but 35K are sitting at home, making excuses. Booing shows you care about your team. You should have the right to express your displeasure in the way your team is preformimg. You have made the financial obligation. The game was fun to watch for both teams. A lot of offensive plays. I agree, the pick call in the end zone was bogus. The sky is not falling for the Texans, there is still a long season to go. You guys are hungry for a winner, I total understand.

LonerATO
09-28-2009, 02:58 AM
That's the guy I wanted us to get or Singeltary if he was available for some reason.

The Texans would have had to pick him up before Nolan was fired last year and that would have meant that the Texans had to hire him during the 2007 season.

SheTexan
09-28-2009, 06:40 AM
I may be alone in this but I didn't think today's loss was on Kubes at all.

It's Kubiaks job to make sure his coaches are doing their job, and it's pretty damn obvious FB is not doing his! Our team has to be the easiest team in the NFL for opposing teams to prepare for. WHY??! Because we make the same mistakes week after week. We're so predicable it's sickening. Just hit the left side of our D and you'll get at least 3, if not 4 TD's. Now, why is that NOT a coaching problem? PREPARE your team for a game!! Work their butts off, make them watch film until their eyes bug out! The noncomplaisent attitude our boys have stems from the top! If they are SOFT it's because they have SOFT leadership. JMO!

V Man
09-28-2009, 08:52 AM
Two years ago, San Francisco had a worse defense than us. We were 24 and they were 25 in total defense and in points per game, they were 20 and we were 22. This year while we are almost dead last in both categories, San Fran is 7 in total yards and 4 in points per game. Don't tell me a tough coach can't make a ton of difference. San Fran does not have much more talent than us on defense yet their guys play with fire. What I would give right now to have hired Singletary instead of Kubiak...

What can I say, other than

DITTO

J. Sean Wonton
09-28-2009, 09:24 AM
Well, I haven't posted much lately, and I'm not posting now because I get off on piling it on after a loss. How can you not want to post after this loss as a Texans fan?

We just had a great statement win over a great team on the road, and we come home and lose like this to the Jags?

I really feel like this team, the culture, from the top, is just comfortable with .500. That's what it feels like. "Oh, we're at .500 now, we can relax against the Jags." Now they'll feel compelled to win next week to keep that comfortable .500 feeling.

I just don't get how you can beat the Titans on the road and lose to the Jags at home the next week.

cuppacoffee
09-28-2009, 09:43 AM
Weird. Last year Denver was 29th in total Defense, 27th in Rush Defense, and 26th in Pass Defense, and 30th in Points per game.

They hired the guy that couldn't get it done in San Fran (Mike Nolan), and lo and behold so far they are 1st in total Defense, 2nd in Pass Defense, 8th in Rush Defense, and 1st in points.

How do you explain that?


According to all the talking heads on tv the ownership there is beyond stupid...

They fired Shanny Sr.

Then their new idiotic coach traded their franchise qb and now they are mired in medioc ....oops.... never mind...:shades:


:coffee:

twotexanfans
09-28-2009, 02:14 PM
It's Kubiaks job to make sure his coaches are doing their job, and it's pretty damn obvious FB is not doing his! Our team has to be the easiest team in the NFL for opposing teams to prepare for. WHY??! Because we make the same mistakes week after week. We're so predicable it's sickening. Just hit the left side of our D and you'll get at least 3, if not 4 TD's. Now, why is that NOT a coaching problem? PREPARE your team for a game!! Work their butts off, make them watch film until their eyes bug out! The noncomplaisent attitude our boys have stems from the top! If they are SOFT it's because they have SOFT leadership. JMO!

I agree!! There is no way the players are really as soft as they appear on field, I just don't buy it. This is a poorly coached team. If the players are confused or unhappy with the system, that will reflect during the game when things start to crumble- and it does! I would be willing to bet they are just as frustrated as we are. I'm a season ticket holder, not since day one but for a few years now. Like most, I have a lot invested in this team emotionally and financially. I completely understand why some folks log in and flame these guys, it's part of the healing process. I'm not a big fan of the boo birds, but I understand that too. There is room in our fan base for all of us- the complainers, bandwagon jumpers, die hards, and homers! Hopefully, one day soon, a light will come on somewhere over there on Kirby and things will improve. Until then, there's always the parking lot, cold beer, awesome food, good friends, and the occasional W !! :beerfunnel:

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 02:40 PM
Was about to answer you until...



I saw this post right below it. Rep your way GW. Nolan has coached some very good defenses when he was able to solely focus on defense. He just wasn't a good HC.

I'll give you a second as well, Dom Capers is doing some good things with GB defense which has equal or less talent than we do.