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RTP2110
09-27-2009, 03:43 PM
please watch the fake punt

TheIronDuke
09-27-2009, 03:44 PM
I'd go for it if I was JDR but maybe he's counting on JJ to screw up the return.

Spike
09-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Dunta has lost almost all of his tackling ability

Technically, this is just his third pre-season game. He'll be fine in two games.

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Watch for a fake

Jottoz
09-27-2009, 03:44 PM
How do yall feel about overtime?

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:44 PM
Jeez it's JJ

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:45 PM
It's touchdown or bust here. An EXACT replica of the first time we played
them last year. That Busing busted coverage is turning out to be THE
PLAY OF THE GAME!!!

Jottoz
09-27-2009, 03:45 PM
So what do yall think about the Raiders next week?

fikster
09-27-2009, 03:45 PM
I hate being a Texans fan. I am tired of this. I don't think I can take it anymore. I am going to have a heart attack.

I am with you 100%. I even painted my man cave Texan Red/Blue put am on the way to home depot now to change it. I can't deal with this bs anymore.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 03:46 PM
GD D-Rob, get that tackling moron OFF the field!!!

RTP2110
09-27-2009, 03:46 PM
still our game to win, c'mon offense!!!

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:46 PM
So what do yall think about the Raiders next week?

I don't think there is a team in the NFL we can afford to overlook.

Maddict5
09-27-2009, 03:47 PM
cushing is one of about 4 players on this D that can tackle

Ckw
09-27-2009, 03:47 PM
I am with you 100%. I even painted my man cave Texan Red/Blue put am on the way to home depot now to change it. I can't deal with this bs anymore.

Hell, it makes me just want to be one of those bandwagon guys that just roots for whoever the best team is that year. I bet they have a lot happier gamedays than I have had.

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:48 PM
I don't think there is a team in the NFL we can afford to overlook.

How bout the long road trip, then coming back to face the 49ers?

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 03:48 PM
damn

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Dear God Schaub sacks himself. I can't watch the rest. But I must.

Soonerborn03
09-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Our O-line is sucking it up here in the last two possessions.

ReliantTexan
09-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Schaub just got tackled by his damn shoe strings.:gun:

Jottoz
09-27-2009, 03:48 PM
Pick 6 time.....I mean fumble recovery for 6!

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
This team didn't come out with that Swagger, and they never
got it. Mediocrity, here we STAY!!

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
How bout the long road trip, then coming back to face the 49ers?

I think SF will run us out of Reliant if we don't completely change our defense. Singletary would have an aneurysm if his D played like that.

UK_Texan
09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
we are crap no change from last year apart from fact matt is healthy

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
This team didn't come out with that Swagger, and they never
got it. Mediocrity, here we STAY!!

Yep.

Can't believe we're about to lose to the Jags. Hope I'm wrong.

Ckw
09-27-2009, 03:50 PM
I think SF will run us out of Reliant if we don't completely change our defense. Singletary would have an aneurysm if his D played like that.

I am really wishing we had hired Singletary.

Spled
09-27-2009, 03:50 PM
If I'm the Jaguars I call nothing but run plays.

Spike
09-27-2009, 03:50 PM
We are what we are...

bckey
09-27-2009, 03:51 PM
This is the absolute worst defense the Texans have ever fielded in their 8 year history.

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 03:51 PM
Turnover baby!

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
OMG Dunta forces a fumble! Diles recovers!

Make it matter

Giant Tiger
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Finally!

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Dunta makes a play!!

Soonerborn03
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Dunta!!!

TheIronDuke
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
WTG Dunta, thanks for actually making a play for once.

awtysst
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Interesting...Lets see what we do with this.

fikster
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
you know hwo that Oregon fan sent his invoice for the Boise State game in and the coach paid him. Do you think the Texans would pay fo rmy rehab because for all practical purposes my drinking problem is their fault. Win or lose.

TexanSam
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Great job by Dunta!

C Madd
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
Dunta!!!

!!!

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:52 PM
That was an obvious catch. Was it a fumble?

RTP2110
09-27-2009, 03:53 PM
wow, not even close for JDR

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 03:53 PM
Del Rios challenge makes Kubiaks challenges look rational

fikster
09-27-2009, 03:54 PM
that hand slap to Dunta was the most contact Bennett has made all damn day

Maddict5
09-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Dunta!

Wolf
09-27-2009, 03:55 PM
nice Walter

bckey
09-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Folks I want the Texans to win but no matter what we have a problem. DEFENSE! You can't expect the offense to have to put up 30 + points every game to win. And we are playing the crappy Jaguars.

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Slaton is still alive

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:55 PM
Great run by Steve for a first. We're moving fast

Topher
09-27-2009, 03:56 PM
Steve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :bender:

Giant Tiger
09-27-2009, 03:56 PM
Still need to punch it in though

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 03:56 PM
Matt looked like he was in slow motion on that roll out.

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:57 PM
OD hauls it in traffic for 9+. That guy is money in the Red Zone

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 03:58 PM
Pass Interference? whack

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 03:59 PM
Wow. Interference on K-Dub

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:59 PM
horsecrap call

CTWade
09-27-2009, 03:59 PM
I. Can't. TAKE. THESE. GAMES. ANYMORE.


arrrrrgbGHHHHHGH.

TexanSam
09-27-2009, 03:59 PM
What a BS call

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 03:59 PM
Wow DA hangs on.

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 04:00 PM
.............

TheIronDuke
09-27-2009, 04:00 PM
Thanks Chris Brown.

Dan B.
09-27-2009, 04:00 PM
No goddamn way that just happened

Topher
09-27-2009, 04:00 PM
Wtf???

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 04:00 PM
Ya'll believe this shit??

UK_Texan
09-27-2009, 04:00 PM
ridiculous

Spike
09-27-2009, 04:01 PM
We suck. I'm done/

TexSon
09-27-2009, 04:01 PM
**** this team. I'm done.

TexanSam
09-27-2009, 04:01 PM
are you ****ing kidding me?

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:01 PM
C'mon Chris Brown!!! Damn it man.

Spled
09-27-2009, 04:02 PM
Officials are on the take.

UvaldeTexan
09-27-2009, 04:02 PM
wow...just wow

bckey
09-27-2009, 04:02 PM
Throw the red flag because he crossed the plain before he fumbled

awtysst
09-27-2009, 04:02 PM
didnt the ground cause that after he was across?

Thorn
09-27-2009, 04:02 PM
Wow. Last week same thing happens to the Tits, and we win. This week it happens to us and Jacksonville wins.

This team is snake bit.

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 04:03 PM
This team plays one high-effort game.
Lays one egg.

This is an 8-8 season staring us in the face. We did NOT need a fumble
at that time. In 3 downs, they can run down 1:20. A 1st down ends
the game.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:03 PM
Throw the red flag because he crossed the plain before he fumbled

No, he never got in.

Soonerborn03
09-27-2009, 04:03 PM
We tie the game, and the refs take it away on a bogus pass interference call.

Anderson his early, no pass interference call.

Now, a fumble on the goaline and the Jags get the ball.

Unbelievable

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:03 PM
Chris Myers could have gotten the ball. He went for the Jags player.

TheIronDuke
09-27-2009, 04:04 PM
On the replay Myers didn't even try to cover the damn ball. WTF was he doing?

swtbound07
09-27-2009, 04:04 PM
fail.

TheIronDuke
09-27-2009, 04:04 PM
No way they're over-turning this call.

Spike
09-27-2009, 04:04 PM
It is not that we lose...its the way that we lose.

This team had a chance to prove something to me today...and all they did was provie AGAIN that there will be new and improved ways to disappoint and frustrate me. Life is too short for this crap.

Wolf
09-27-2009, 04:05 PM
no way that gets overturned

hot pickle
09-27-2009, 04:05 PM
man this is kinda embarrassing... every team that he should beat we lose to and every team that should beat us we beat them lol

Wolf
09-27-2009, 04:06 PM
game set match folks

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:06 PM
And all this because of the BS pass interference on Walter.

Topher
09-27-2009, 04:06 PM
Well damn......

swtbound07
09-27-2009, 04:06 PM
I hate this. We deserve an L this week. How many 60 + yard tds can one defense give up.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:08 PM
You may all now return to your regularly scheduled "All-encompassing Fire Kubiak" thread....

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 04:08 PM
3rd and 5. The game rides on this snap.

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
You may all now return to your regularly scheduled "All-encompassing Fire Kubiak" thread....

Surprisingly, this is not on Kubiak.

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
We play best when nobody believes in us and we play worst when we have a little hype.

This is worst than being a Lions fan because at least they know they wont ever be good. But to be constantly up and down is so damn frstrating.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
Double robbed... what a zebra joke...

Old School
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
You may all now return to your regularly scheduled "All-encompassing Fire Kubiak" thread....
How about the "Fire the defense" thread?

LonerATO
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
Im tired of the losing, but Im not going to let this loss get me down. I hate having the rest of my day and most of my week sucks because of this.

Spled
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
They took that touchdown away from Dreessen.

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
Thats game. damniitttt

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 04:09 PM
Horsecollar??

Soonerborn03
09-27-2009, 04:10 PM
Does horse collar count the jersey now?

This is unbelievable

swtbound07
09-27-2009, 04:10 PM
nice job. Mental mistake from mario puts a cherry on this turd sunday.

DexmanC
09-27-2009, 04:10 PM
3 consecutive F-ups to end the game.

awtysst
09-27-2009, 04:10 PM
Surprisingly, this is not on Kubiak.

Well, he is the head coach. It is on him to make sure the offense and Defense is ready for each game.

Thorn
09-27-2009, 04:11 PM
It's official. Texans suck.

Spike
09-27-2009, 04:11 PM
This team plays one high-effort game.
Lays one egg.

This is an 8-8 season staring us in the face. We did NOT need a fumble
at that time. In 3 downs, they can run down 1:20. A 1st down ends
the game.

8-8...you HAVE to be kidding me. There is NO freaking way this team goes 8-8. This is the easy part of our schedule. This team is what it is. Schaub is what he is. This defense is what he is. This coaching staff is what it is.

This team and this organization is mediocre. That is what we are, and that is what we will be for the foreseeable future. I don't have the freaking stomach for this crap.

JDizzle
09-27-2009, 04:11 PM
Game over. Pathetic.

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:11 PM
They took that touchdown away from Dreessen.

Yep. That was a BS penalty.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:12 PM
We play best when nobody believes in us and we play worst when we have a little hype.

This is worst than being a Lions fan because at least they know they wont ever be good. But to be constantly up and down is so damn frstrating.

Actually, the Lions are winning.

UK_Texan
09-27-2009, 04:12 PM
gutted going to be a long old season with nothing at the end of it AGAIN, so much for being a playoff team

Atl Cav
09-27-2009, 04:13 PM
I repeat.........Spike, go ahead and blame Schaub.....It would be in his best interests to get out of Houston. How can you blame him? If you dont know anything about the game of football.

Dread-Head
09-27-2009, 04:13 PM
WHY THE F didn't Kubiak challenge that BS pass interference call!!!!!

mariowillshine15
09-27-2009, 04:13 PM
Actually, the Lions are winning.

I meant in a long term sense. The Lions will win once in a while but they know theyre never going anywhere.

We get these dreams of playoffs and Super Bowls and we cant even win 2 games in a row. Its pathetic.

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:14 PM
Well, he is the head coach. It is on him to make sure the offense and Defense is ready for each game.

Yes.

A BS pass interfence call on Walter and then Chris Brown fumbling at the goal line, and then Mario Williams with the dumbass horsecollar tackle is Kubiak's fault.

I wouldn't really put this loss on Kubiak.

awtysst
09-27-2009, 04:14 PM
8-8...you HAVE to be kidding me. There is NO freaking way this team goes 8-8. This is the easy part of our schedule. This team is what it is. Schaub is what he is. This defense is what he is. This coaching staff is what it is.

This team and this organization is mediocre. That is what we are, and that is what we will be for the foreseeable future. I don't have the freaking stomach for this crap.

Schaub played pretty well today. Despite a couple of bone headed plays, he was fine. What cost us today is our Defense. When you consistently give up long runs, don't tackle, and pretty much poorly you cannot win games.

WesmanTexanfan
09-27-2009, 04:14 PM
Todays Texans game is an example of why I think American Football is silly, and that the NFL is a show more than a sport. Im not european or anything i just happen to like most all sports and this one, American football has the worst rules, the worst integrity and the 2nd worst officials(NBA)......

Im seriously thinking of jumpiong ship to a team with a D, and that scares me, that thought has never crossed my Astros/Rockets mind....


p.s.You think we would have won with a that TD? no no no, MJD would ran down the last minute and theyda kicked a FG, why? CUZ OUR D COACHING IS A JOKE!!!

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Yes.

A BS pass interfence call on Walter and then Chris Brown fumbling at the goal line, and then Mario Williams with the dumbass horsecollar tackle is Kubiak's fault.

I wouldn't really put this loss on Kubiak.

That right there, was the game.

awtysst
09-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Yes.

A BS pass interfence call on Walter and then Chris Brown fumbling at the goal line, and then Mario Williams with the dumbass horsecollar tackle is Kubiak's fault.

I wouldn't really put this loss on Kubiak.

No no. I don't blame Kubes for that. I blame Kubes for having his D giving up the big run to MJD like he allowed Chris Johnson last week, and AD in preseason. I blame Kubes for not having his D doing enough tackling drills because their tackling was piss poor today. I blame Kubes for not getting enough pressure on the QB. THATS why this lays on Kubes' feet. If your offense can score 20-30 points, you should not lose.

Soonerborn03
09-27-2009, 04:16 PM
Anderson got hit early on his catch. Where would the ball have been placed if they would have called pass interference?

UK_Texan
09-27-2009, 04:16 PM
at least titans lost again if indy lose keeps our divison open at least only positive i can find

bckey
09-27-2009, 04:17 PM
Our defense is absolutely horrible. Kubiak will lose his job for hiring Frank Bush and not interviewing other defensive cordinators. This defense is so bad it is an embarrassment to the NFL. 0 and 2 to start at home is a killer. We just handed the Colts the division.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:17 PM
WHY THE F didn't Kubiak challenge that BS pass interference call!!!!!

Not sure you can challenge a penalty?

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:18 PM
Anderson got hit eraly on his catch. Where would the ball have been placed if they would have called pass interference?
On the one yd. line.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:18 PM
Yes.

A BS pass interfence call on Walter and then Chris Brown fumbling at the goal line, and then Mario Williams with the dumbass horsecollar tackle is Kubiak's fault.

I wouldn't really put this loss on Kubiak.

Bingo, bingo and... bingo....

Talk about a triple rob...

awtysst
09-27-2009, 04:18 PM
Not sure you can challenge a penalty?

Yeah you cannot challenge penalties either that a flag was thrown or that a flag was not thrown.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:18 PM
WHY THE F didn't Kubiak challenge that BS pass interference call!!!!!

That's not a reviewable play.

Brisco_County
09-27-2009, 04:18 PM
That was bullshit. I'm so pissed. Thank you refs.

Spike
09-27-2009, 04:19 PM
Schaub played pretty well today. Despite a couple of bone headed plays, he was fine. What cost us today is our Defense. When you consistently give up long runs, don't tackle, and pretty much poorly you cannot win games.

I did not intend to attack Schaub directly...his name just popped into my head in my rant. He played well and got up after a lot of licks today.

I am just worn out following this team. All of these years, and we can never seem to turn a corner. This is the most frustrating team to follow in the history of sports.

pbat488
09-27-2009, 04:19 PM
WHY THE F didn't Kubiak challenge that BS pass interference call!!!!!

Because you can't challenge that.

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:19 PM
That right there, was the game.

Yep.

He was looking back at the ball, ran into the defender and ref, but the call is on him. Refs were full of BS.

pbat488
09-27-2009, 04:20 PM
Anderson got hit early on his catch. Where would the ball have been placed if they would have called pass interference?

More importantly, it would be an automatic first down as well.

bckey
09-27-2009, 04:20 PM
I am just worn out following this team. All of these years, and we can never seem to turn a corner. This is the most frustrating team to follow in the history of sports.

Welcome to Houston!

awtysst
09-27-2009, 04:20 PM
Bingo, bingo and... bingo....

Talk about a triple rob...

Maybe, but ti should not have gotten to that point. We gave MJD a free TD and gave the Jags all kinds of free first downs because of poor tackling. The Jags converted on about 28% of the time on 3rd down entering the game. At one point they were 5/8. You cannot let an opponent convert on 50+% of 3rd down.

ReliantTexan
09-27-2009, 04:20 PM
http://i37.tinypic.com/ncf6zq.gif

Spled
09-27-2009, 04:21 PM
It could be worse. We could be Cleveland.

HTown2ATX
09-27-2009, 04:22 PM
Just dissapointed.......not worth spending more time than that describing it. Should have beat the Jags, our D is really, really bad.

Should have had the whole COOGS team on the sideline during the game, to remind this team that at least SOME PLAYERS in Houston give a shit and play hard!

Today's D gets the POOF lion! :lion:

bckey
09-27-2009, 04:25 PM
The call on Walter doesn't really matter. Our defense played terrible so its on them, the dc and Kubiak. The Texans didn't deserve to win. We keep picking up scrubs to fill holes and it just gets uglier and uglier. McNair better look out because Houston will end up turning their back on this team if this continues. He'll end up in Memphis playing the Titans in the possum bowl every year.

I'd fire Bush if for no other reason than looking like we are doing something to change things. This is bad football at its best.

UK_Texan
09-27-2009, 04:26 PM
i have seriously been considering booking a flight to come and watch a game this season but on the display of today, i think im better saving my money, and stick with the game at wembley this year again.

Leahmic223
09-27-2009, 04:26 PM
Don't blame this on Brown. I know it's easy to say he shouldn't fumble regardless, but he should have never been running the ball. Texans should have tied the game by then.

As for the players...all that talk and nothing. You come out and lose at home. Congrats to another 8-8 season. Maybe we win 9!

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:27 PM
Maybe, but ti should not have gotten to that point. We gave MJD a free TD and gave the Jags all kinds of free first downs because of poor tackling. The Jags converted on about 28% of the time on 3rd down entering the game. At one point they were 5/8. You cannot let an opponent convert on 50+% of 3rd down.

True true, it just pisses me off that even though our D is a big freaking hole, our offense still keeps us within a win.

I just had a premonition, Frank Bush will get fired or demoted tomorrow!!!

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:27 PM
When our D gives up 3-4 TDs every game we'll do well to win 6-7 games. We can't outshoot folks every week. The D has to hold up their end.

Mr teX
09-27-2009, 04:28 PM
Everybody's ready to fire the defensive coordinator...again. Well if your first failed & it looks as if the 2nd one will too, what does that tell you?......We need more talent; preferably at Safety & DT please.

bckey
09-27-2009, 04:28 PM
Everybody's ready to fire the defensive coordinator...again. Well if your first failed & it looks as if the 2nd one will too, what does that tell you?

Please enlighten us wise one.

fikster
09-27-2009, 04:29 PM
Maybe, but ti should not have gotten to that point. We gave MJD a free TD and gave the Jags all kinds of free first downs because of poor tackling. The Jags converted on about 28% of the time on 3rd down entering the game. At one point they were 5/8. You cannot let an opponent convert on 50+% of 3rd down.

I agree, we let them in the game from the get go. One call doesn't change crap. If we would have taken care of our business and been ready to play from the opening kick on both sides of the ball, we would have won and none of these crap would even matter. We just got our asses handed to us and we didn't change anything that we saw in the preseason and the first two games of the year on defense to stop the run.

Their is enough blame on this loss to go around. The players, the front office, the coaching staff all sucked today. This defense will come back and bite Kubes in the ass because he didn't do any real interviewing outside of the organization for a DC. He as the head coach has to have them ready to play every game on both sides of the ball.

This is just demoralizing as a fan though.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:29 PM
http://i37.tinypic.com/ncf6zq.gif

We feel ya, Chipper. We feel ya.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:29 PM
Everybody's ready to fire the defensive coordinator...again. Well if your first failed & it looks as if the 2nd one will too, what does that tell you?......We need more talent; preferably at Safety & DT please.

We've had 2 bad ones in a row?

Leahmic223
09-27-2009, 04:29 PM
I don't think it's the DC...it's the friggin secondary.

When are we going to invest in high picks and FA money in bringing in quality players?

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:30 PM
I don't think it's the DC...it's the friggin secondary.

When are we going to invest in high picks and FA money in bringing in quality players?

IMO the D-coach then needs to get some players that work, or use a system that works with the players he's got...

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:32 PM
I don't think it's the DC...it's the friggin secondary.

When are we going to invest in high picks and FA money in bringing in quality players?

Aaaah...
I remember this argument well.
Is it lack of talent or a failure of the scheme that is our issue on defense?

Khari
09-27-2009, 04:33 PM
eh' ... was more upset about the jets loss than this one...

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:33 PM
Aaaah...
I remember this argument well.
Is it lack of talent or a failure of the scheme that is our issue on defense?

"Same scheme, different attitude"

MEGA SWATT
09-27-2009, 04:35 PM
Inconsistency, frustration continues.

Some late calls were suspect, but you have to be able to win those types of games. Holding on to the ball is key, though imo Brown's knee was down.

So frustrating............

Mr teX
09-27-2009, 04:35 PM
We've had 2 bad ones in a row?

3 if u count capers even though he was a head coach but he pretty much ran the D..

Dom Capers...richard smith....Frank Bush.....

I think i know where i fall on the "talent vs. scheme" debate...

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:38 PM
I'm never getting fired up while reading quotes from our players after a win. All of that "we turned the corner" BS this entire week.

Child please.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 04:39 PM
3 if u count capers even though he was a head coach but he pretty much ran the D..

Dom Capers...richard smith....Frank Bush.....

I think i know where i fall on the "talent vs. scheme" debate...

Excluded Dom because of HC title

Leahmic223
09-27-2009, 04:41 PM
Aaaah...
I remember this argument well.
Is it lack of talent or a failure of the scheme that is our issue on defense?

I really think it's the players.

Who is our best player in the secondary? Dunta, hands down whether people like him or not. Yet Dunta I feel would be a #2 CB on most GOOD NFL teams. All these other guys are backup players starting imo. Their resume says so as well.

Our defense is really bad right now. We'll be lucky to win games at this pace, it's odd because our defense so far has been WORSE. RBs are having Career days on them now. MJD just tied his Career high for TDs and Chris Johnson...sigh.

GuerillaBlack
09-27-2009, 04:45 PM
I really think it's the players.

Who is our best player in the secondary? Dunta, hands down whether people like him or not. Yet Dunta I feel would be a #2 CB on most GOOD NFL teams. All these other guys are backup players starting imo. Their resume says so as well.

Our defense is really bad right now. We'll be lucky to win games at this pace, it's odd because our defense so far has been WORSE. RBs are having Career days on them now. MJD just tied his Career high for TDs and Chris Johnson...sigh.

How does a defense get worse after supposedly adding all of this "talent" through the draft?

Air Canada
09-27-2009, 04:47 PM
:pop:Really they were getting away with murder on Mario this game...We lose...31-24, thank u refs!! OFFENSIVE PI? Really? What about the Defensive PI the play after on DA? Must be Jags fans....BREAKING NEWSSSSSSS! OUR secondary SUCKS!!...Learn how to tackle Dunta!

The season is still alive...look at the Titans, if this team can find a way to get lucky with turnovers, then our great O can shine....optimism

UK_Texan
09-27-2009, 04:50 PM
:pop:Really they were getting away with murder on Mario this game...We lose...31-24, thank u refs!! OFFENSIVE PI? Really? What about the Defensive PI the play after on DA? Must be Jags fans....BREAKING NEWSSSSSSS! OUR secondary SUCKS!!...Learn how to tackle Dunta!

The season is still alive...look at the Titans, if this team can find a way to get lucky with turnovers, then our great O can shine....optimism

Im all out of optimism

Leahmic223
09-27-2009, 04:55 PM
How does a defense get worse after supposedly adding all of this "talent" through the draft?

I don't know. But our defense this year is laughable. When every time we play someone has a career day there are a lot of problems that need to be fixed there.

Also the only talent I see is Cushing. Barwin still hasn't proved nothing yet. Okoye hasn't. Barwin gets a pass though...Okoye...well we know who the playmakers on this defense are. The secondary I just look at it and the guys there and wonder how the Texans expect to stop anyone with those guys. Bennet and Reeves are solid players, so is Wilson and Busing, but I think they'd be backups at best on a good playoff team. These guys are starting here.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 04:58 PM
Im all out of optimism


...unless you're the opposing team's feature RB.

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 05:04 PM
Im all out of optimism

how's this?
Last week we gave up 3 plays of over 50 yds; this week we cut that down to only one.

Malloy
09-27-2009, 05:06 PM
how's this?
Last week we gave up 3 plays of over 50 yds; this week we cut that down to only one.

Dude, this isnt the 'glass half full' thread! :)

Norg
09-27-2009, 05:08 PM
:violin

And so it begins ..............

TheIronDuke
09-27-2009, 05:11 PM
:violin

And so it begins ..............

Dude your rep got thrashed!

Note to self: Do not say an injury to a Texans player is good.

Norg
09-27-2009, 05:14 PM
Dude your rep got thrashed!

Note to self: Do not say an injury to a Texans player is good.

it was good i thought Studderd play better then pitts ...

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 05:28 PM
:violin

And so it begins ..............
you mean, "resumes". it began after game one.

Redtexan#34
09-27-2009, 05:33 PM
in my opinion its clear to see that the Defense scheme and therefore the coaches that are at fault. The big run that MJD broke was the same kind of running play that C. Johnson, Washington, and Peterson broke on the defense. And if it had not been for the ref MJD would have broke that run for one that would have looked identical to the C, Johnson 91 yard td run from last week. The Defense continues to make the same mistakes and poor attempts of tackling. This defense sucks!!!!!!!! Dont get me wrong I think C. Barwin will be a hell of a player. Now that that has been said i think it was a mistake to draft a DE in the 2nd rnd they had already signed A. Smith. They should have drafted a big DT. Why not, because they were depending on T. Johnson, that worked out well. This mistake is similar to a few years ago when they did not draft or sign a big time RB because they were depending on D. Williams. What happened he never came back from injury and they plugged mediocre players in the position. To me it seems that this style of attacking defense rely s on having every defensive player have sound technique and not miss tackles. I think they are asking to much of what was already a mediocre at best defense.

Mr teX
09-27-2009, 05:44 PM
in my opinion its clear to see that the Defense scheme and therefore the coaches that are at fault. The big run that MJD broke was the same kind of running play that C. Johnson, Washington, and Peterson broke on the defense. And if it had not been for the ref MJD would have broke that run for one that would have looked identical to the C, Johnson 91 yard td run from last week. The Defense continues to make the same mistakes and poor attempts of tackling. This defense sucks!!!!!!!! Dont get me wrong I think C. Barwin will be a hell of a player. Now that that has been said i think it was a mistake to draft a DE in the 2nd rnd they had already signed A. Smith. They should have drafted a big DT. Why not, because they were depending on T. Johnson, that worked out well. This mistake is similar to a few years ago when they did not draft or sign a big time RB because they were depending on D. Williams. What happened he never came back from injury and they plugged mediocre players in the position. To me it seems that this style of attacking defense rely s on having every defensive player have sound technique and not miss tackles. I think they are asking to much of what was already a mediocre at best defense.


It's not scheme if 1 of your safeties get's caught looking inside & consequently gets out of position (busing) as the rb bounces it off tackle & in the lane where he was supposed to be...

It's not scheme if your safety completely busts his coverage assignment (barber) & forgets to locate the most dangerous player the opposing team has....

It's not scheme if the offensive player just flat out jukes or breaks your player,s tackles (everybody on defense).

Keep in mind all of these plays were made after the defensive call that was made puts 8 or more people in the box.

Those are all on the players...

Air Canada
09-27-2009, 06:15 PM
how's this?
Last week we gave up 3 plays of over 50 yds; this week we cut that down to only one.

Maybe we give up none to the Raiders...No? Probaly right...lol...:gun:

Norg
09-27-2009, 06:38 PM
Man benson is looking pretty Good

ObsiWan
09-27-2009, 06:58 PM
Man benson is looking pretty Good

where's the "water over the dam" smiley?

Norg
09-27-2009, 07:08 PM
Ok guys


ARZ vs INdy


We need indy to lose in a big way !!!!!!!!!!!!


o a boy can dream has it stands

Indy 2-1
Jags 1-2
Texans 1-2
TItans 0-3 :goodnight

silvrhand
09-28-2009, 11:10 AM
that the fans came pouring out again showed up in almost *ALL* red, which was by far the best showing of red I have seen in the last few years and we flop again..