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barrett
09-21-2009, 02:44 PM
First half:

There is quite a bit to feel positive about offensively but I'm siding with Kubiak at this point in my review. There's alot to get fixed. Right now I'm seeing 1 or 2 mistakes every few plays that are crippling. When all 11 are in sync the scheme seems pretty good.

In the first quarter the running game is sluggish but it's clear that it is in large part to how physically strong the tacks front 7 is. The breakdowns in the run game seem to come mostly from LB penetration and from the edge where the TE's are doing their best but clearly are physically at a disadvantage on the DE's. The linemen as a whole seem to be doing a decent job but just can't blow anybody off the ball.

D. Brown is a monster. Kyle "pink eye" Vanden Douche is completely manhandled consistently in pass pro. The tacks are tough against the run but I only see Brown taken away once in the first quarter. He plays very well.

Pitts looks decent in both run and pass pro. Again, we see the linemen struggling but hanging tough. Technically and assignment-wise he appears to be playing soundly.

Studdard after Pitts goes out he actually looks very good on the first play. Shanny calls the run to his side and he blows his guy up. Suddenly we look pretty good in the run game and you're thinking "hey, maybe he is playing 'like a starter'". But , then he totally gets destroyed the next play and you settle back into knowing that he isn't talented physically and technically he's sloppy which pretty much makes him a shitty football player with "lots of heart".

Meyers see Pitts above.

Briesel again, fairly sound just not dominant.

Winston One clearly illegal cut block while Biscuit was engaged with his guy. Winston still looks aggressive and fairly sound against the run but my god he sucks in pass protection! he looses his angle at the back of the pocket consistently right where Schaub is setting up to throw. He's able to manage just enough to get the play off but to say that Schaub is getting enough time to go wherever he wants with the ball would not be a fair assessment and clearly to me, Winston is to blame.

Leach solid on run blocks, same story as above. Solid but physically not able to blow his guys off the ball. The tacks are very stout to say the least.

Slaton is not playing well. Yes, the stout front 7 is making this difficult but he is not showing signs of good vision or burst. He seems somewhat tunnel visioned. (mind you I'm looking for exceptional vision from him because he performed so well last season). He misses a few cut back lanes or on the opposite, cut's back when he shouldn't. Seems to be performing decently in his protection assignments.

Overall the run game is functioning. It's itty bitty gains but it's working. 2nd and 7's, 2nd and 8's etc. Keeping it manageable against a clearly very tough run defense.

Schaub Showing great vision, accurate and reading the defense very comfortably. I'd love to see him step up into the pocket at times. Winston's inability to keep the back of the pocket open really forces Schaub's hand repeatedly. Fortunately, he responds well and makes the plays but there are a few times that if he would have stepped up he could have bought more time.

(I don't think this offense spends much time working on "buying time". I think it is designed very much to work on a rhythm and that is why it works in chunks so often.)

A. Johnson There's really no need to evaluate him. He dropped two. Everything else he did was amazing. He caught a ball along the sideline with two guys in front of him and stretched for 4 more yards as he was falling. It's the little things on top of the amazing things that make him the best. He made an "okay" catch in the endzone too.

J. Jones / Martinez blocked down a few times well. As always it's very hard to critique the WR's in their routes because of how the TV coverage is. Jones wiff's on a catch and then mostly makes a very good catch for a TD on the next play. not much else to report. I would say that Martinez looks very comfortable out there.

defense up next...

barrett
09-21-2009, 03:16 PM
Defense 1st half:

It's very frustrating to watch the defense because they are very good about 1/3 of the time, very bad 1/3 of the time and the other 1/3 is really the key to this defense getting better or sucking.

It's the 3rd 1/3 (if you will). In this 1/3, you'll find no less than 8-10 guys doing their jobs on any given play. And doing those jobs quite well I might add. But it's these 1-3 guys
that are completely ****ing it up for everybody else.

When they are very bad it's usually because they are fast. They over persue or they get physically locked out because they are smaller faster guys who can't get off a block. (This is consistent throughout the entire defense. DL, LB's [less so] and CB's.)

When they are very good they are explosive and sound in their gaps and tackling, tight in their coverage etc..

When we give up a 15 yard screen or a 8 yard run or a 57-yard run, a 69-yard pass play and a 91-yard run it's because 1-3 guys just stunk it up.

A. Smith average at best. Better in getting penetration on passing plays but man handled at times on run plays. Seemed better in the first Qtr. Often times the tacks pocket has two DE's really applying decent pressure and two DT's really just standing there, unable to shed their blocks and not really causing any pocket pressure.

A. Okoye thinks he played decent according to one article I read. Look, I'm actually very slow to criticize because I am going to assume I don't understand enough about the X's and O's to get what a player is being "asked to do". But unless Amobi Okoye is being asked to just absolutely get thrown around like a rag doll and stand pat and not be a factor in either the run game or the passing game WHATSOEVER!!!!... then I think he's really, really bad. I mean, he was not even a factor AT ALL on (from what I could see) more than 2 plays the entire 1st half. He's quick of the snap but that's all he does. I know DT's are often times designed to just kind of take up linemen so the LB's can make the plays but seriously, he's pushed right out of the play regardless if it's run or pass.

Zgonina Looks kind of explosive actually... I didn't believe it but sometimes he looks okay. Didn't really see him getting amobied out of the play. (which I would see last year). He seems stronger at the point of attack than I remember.

Okam Seems the most improved. Decent penetration at times, not too terribly amobied very often. I wouldn't go as far as to say that he looked good but he looked less bad consistently.

DelJuan Robinson well, I saw him completely implode 1 run play and continue to look like our best DT the rest of the time so I guess we should just continue to sit him. I'm officially baffled...

Williams He's the only guy who can shed a block on the entire DLine exept for #66 and aparently we hate him and don't want him in the game so this is pretty much all we've got. Damn he looks good. His bull rush is awesome, he's smart about when to disengage and stunt. He's all alone out there, just continually making plays on both the run and the pass. Sick. just sick.

Barwin well, it aint preseason any more. He struggles to get off his block and his moves are lousy but he's really fast.. give him time. give him time. Bush has him dropping into coverage at times in a zone and it has to add to the confusion somewhat because Collins throws his pick in this scenario.

Bulman fairly decent spin move and good strength and motor. If he can rub off on Barwin this could be helpful. Not much to report other than he's harded to block than most of our DLinemen.

Diles Thsi guy knows how to tackle. He's a player. I didn't see him making alot of the tackles but he's very effective and smart at reading the play and being in the right place. I'm not seeing him as 1 of the 1-3 guys screwing up. He's very solid.

Ryans isn't as dominant but still sound. VS C. Johnson he looks slow but he's a hell of a tackler. If he makes 1 more tackle we don't give them a chance to kick the FG at the half. CJ is fast, fast.

Cushing get's held blows up run plays, tackles well, reads screens well, plays fast and smart. These 3 guys are going to really be the keys for us.


much like the WR's it hard to watch the CB's until the ball is on them or against the run because of the TV coverage.

Bennett is a lousy tackler and sloppy. I'm running on empty with him.

Dunta is a lousy tackler and sloppy. But earns respect because they don't seem to throw at him much. I sure would like to see him taking better angles on his tackling.

McCain has a hard time shedding blocks but I don't see him having any issues against the pass that I can recall.

Quin breaks Britt in half at one point. It's hard to rate these guys cuz the tacks receivers drop balls or are out of bounds or the QB misses them.

Wilson so glad to have him back. He plays the run and pass fairly well and seems mostly in position.

Barber is not seen again after failing to cover Johnson. Busing replaces him and seems comfortable against the run and even makes plays on the ball.

powerfuldragon
09-21-2009, 03:27 PM
i must've missed something... how long's eric winston been known as biscuit?/

drewmar74
09-21-2009, 03:33 PM
Studdard after Pitts goes out he actually looks very good on the first play. Shanny calls the run to his side and he blows his guy up. Suddenly we look pretty good in the run game and you're thinking "hey, maybe he is playing 'like a starter'". But , then he totally gets destroyed the next play and you settle back into knowing that he isn't talented physically and technically he's sloppy which pretty much makes him a shitty football player with "lots of heart".



:spit:

You could make the case that the center of our O-line gets "amobi-ed" also....

barrett
09-21-2009, 03:35 PM
i must've missed something... how long's eric winston been known as biscuit?/


Biscuit is Mike Brisiel. Sorry.

barrett
09-21-2009, 03:37 PM
:spit:

You could make the case that the center of our O-line gets "amobi-ed" also....

Thus far, I'm actually surprised by how he plays in this game. He seems to be much stronger at the point of attack than last week. It's hard to make out sometimes but he's not going backwards like he was last week and at times in the past.

TimeKiller
09-21-2009, 04:06 PM
Nice player review!

Okoye looks thick and strong, I'm at a loss as to why he gets moved so easily. I also thought ASmith had a pretty good game but I only watched it once.

Winston seems to be exposed a bit in Pass pro occasionally, I noticed that a few times. Would a move to guard suit his game a little better?

barrett
09-21-2009, 04:12 PM
Nice player review!

Okoye looks thick and strong, I'm at a loss as to why he gets moved so easily. I also thought ASmith had a pretty good game but I only watched it once.

Winston seems to be exposed a bit in Pass pro occasionally, I noticed that a few times. Would a move to guard suit his game a little better?

It depends on who you ask. Some would say yes. Others feel that he's too tall for guard. I sure would love to get to at least see how it would look.

Hardcore Texan
09-21-2009, 04:22 PM
Okay, I used Vanden Douche in another thread just to be clear I didn't copy you, I came up with that yesterday, hadn't heard it said before not saying you didn't come up with it either, it's a not a big leap :)

Martinez is playing like a freaking stud on special teams.

barrett
09-21-2009, 04:53 PM
I heard some guy say it on the post game show. I added "pink eye". I have always called the deuchester that.

I couldn't care less who came up with it though. You can have it. It's awesome!

I loved watching Brown repeatedly drive Vanden Deuche into the ground!


Martinez is blocking down at the line on run plays well too. We've got some pretty tough receivers. And our best run blocking WR should be back next week!

I expect our run game to improve with Walter's return and the drop off in competition.

Hardcore Texan
09-21-2009, 05:06 PM
I heard some guy say it on the post game show. I added "pink eye". I have always called the deuchester that.

I couldn't care less who came up with it though. You can have it. It's awesome!

I loved watching Brown repeatedly drive Vanden Deuche into the ground!


Martinez is blocking down at the line on run plays well too. We've got some pretty tough receivers. And our best run blocking WR should be back next week!

I expect our run game to improve with Walter's return and the drop off in competition.

I wasn't trying to get it, I just didn't want anyone that repped me for it thinking I was copying it, I would give credit where it was due. Vanden ***** also works well.

GNTLEWOLF
09-21-2009, 08:28 PM
First half:

There is quite a bit to feel positive about offensively but I'm siding with Kubiak at this point in my review. There's alot to get fixed. Right now I'm seeing 1 or 2 mistakes every few plays that are crippling. When all 11 are in sync the scheme seems pretty good.

In the first quarter the running game is sluggish but it's clear that it is in large part to how physically strong the tacks front 7 is. The breakdowns in the run game seem to come mostly from LB penetration and from the edge where the TE's are doing their best but clearly are physically at a disadvantage on the DE's. The linemen as a whole seem to be doing a decent job but just can't blow anybody off the ball.

D. Brown is a monster. Kyle "pink eye" Vanden Douche is completely manhandled consistently in pass pro. The tacks are tough against the run but I only see Brown taken away once in the first quarter. He plays very well.

Pitts looks decent in both run and pass pro. Again, we see the linemen struggling but hanging tough. Technically and assignment-wise he appears to be playing soundly.

Studdard after Pitts goes out he actually looks very good on the first play. Shanny calls the run to his side and he blows his guy up. Suddenly we look pretty good in the run game and you're thinking "hey, maybe he is playing 'like a starter'". But , then he totally gets destroyed the next play and you settle back into knowing that he isn't talented physically and technically he's sloppy which pretty much makes him a shitty football player with "lots of heart".

Meyers see Pitts above.

Briesel again, fairly sound just not dominant.

Winston One clearly illegal cut block while Biscuit was engaged with his guy. Winston still looks aggressive and fairly sound against the run but my god he sucks in pass protection! he looses his angle at the back of the pocket consistently right where Schaub is setting up to throw. He's able to manage just enough to get the play off but to say that Schaub is getting enough time to go wherever he wants with the ball would not be a fair assessment and clearly to me, Winston is to blame.

Leach solid on run blocks, same story as above. Solid but physically not able to blow his guys off the ball. The tacks are very stout to say the least.

Slaton is not playing well. Yes, the stout front 7 is making this difficult but he is not showing signs of good vision or burst. He seems somewhat tunnel visioned. (mind you I'm looking for exceptional vision from him because he performed so well last season). He misses a few cut back lanes or on the opposite, cut's back when he shouldn't. Seems to be performing decently in his protection assignments.
Overall the run game is functioning. It's itty bitty gains but it's working. 2nd and 7's, 2nd and 8's etc. Keeping it manageable against a clearly very tough run defense.

Schaub Showing great vision, accurate and reading the defense very comfortably. I'd love to see him step up into the pocket at times. Winston's inability to keep the back of the pocket open really forces Schaub's hand repeatedly. Fortunately, he responds well and makes the plays but there are a few times that if he would have stepped up he could have bought more time.

(I don't think this offense spends much time working on "buying time". I think it is designed very much to work on a rhythm and that is why it works in chunks so often.)

A. Johnson There's really no need to evaluate him. He dropped two. Everything else he did was amazing. He caught a ball along the sideline with two guys in front of him and stretched for 4 more yards as he was falling. It's the little things on top of the amazing things that make him the best. He made an "okay" catch in the endzone too.

J. Jones / Martinez blocked down a few times well. As always it's very hard to critique the WR's in their routes because of how the TV coverage is. Jones wiff's on a catch and then mostly makes a very good catch for a TD on the next play. not much else to report. I would say that Martinez looks very comfortable out there.

defense up next...

I thought I was the only one who noticed that Slaton missed several cut back lanes. I'm glad you pointed that out. It's almost like he has lost his vision. On several plays he might have gotten really good yardage had he made the cut back. Instead he blindly follows his blockers into a dead end.

Spike
09-21-2009, 09:38 PM
Great read. If I knew how to give a rep, I'd give you one.

spurstexanstros
09-21-2009, 09:41 PM
Isolated review? dont you mean objective...oh dang grammar nazi


anyways ....how could you not talk about the offense and not mention "Open" Daniels (trademark STS..meaning I came up with that one). OD was a beast...making play after play getting big first down after big first down. That catch when he took that big hit...the touch down that tied the game..... I guess OD gets overlooked here too.

thunderkyss
09-21-2009, 10:02 PM
Defense 1st half:


Both posts were great. Very good read.

I've only watched the game at full speed so far. I've rewound and watched a couple of plays, but not many. I know we've got work to do, I'm not denying that. But your defense post was soooo negative, I don't understand.

Like I said, I only watched the game in real speed, and one time through. But I recall our defense played most of the first half in their backfield.

I don't know if I'm just remembering what I want. But I thought the first half went much better than your post suggest.

Giving up big goofy plays & all, I was happy, impressed with what we did in the first half.

TexansFanatic
09-21-2009, 10:51 PM
Great read. If I knew how to give a rep, I'd give you one.

Just click on this http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/buttons/reputation.gif symbol beneath his name to the left of his post and you can give rep.

barrett
09-21-2009, 11:03 PM
Isolated review? dont you mean objective...oh dang grammar nazi


anyways ....how could you not talk about the offense and not mention "Open" Daniels (trademark STS..meaning I came up with that one). OD was a beast...making play after play getting big first down after big first down. That catch when he took that big hit...the touch down that tied the game..... I guess OD gets overlooked here too.

I actually did mean isolated. The purpose of the post is more specific analysis of each individual player and less about the team or unit as a whole. I watched each player by them self and try to gain an understanding of their performance overall. I hope I am being objective though so I'll take that as an accidental compliment!

You know, I had written an entire section on both Dreesen and Daniels and somehow I deleted it. Sorry about that. The main thing that I saw with both of them was that they really struggled with blocking. They are both above average blockers so it really stood out to me. The guys they are going up against just collapse into the running lanes and make the options slim to none. Again, there is a theme here. The tacks are very stout against the run.

Thanks for pointing out that I missed them.

Both posts were great. Very good read.

I've only watched the game at full speed so far. I've rewound and watched a couple of plays, but not many. I know we've got work to do, I'm not denying that. But your defense post was soooo negative, I don't understand.

Like I said, I only watched the game in real speed, and one time through. But I recall our defense played most of the first half in their backfield.

I don't know if I'm just remembering what I want. But I thought the first half went much better than your post suggest.

Giving up big goofy plays & all, I was happy, impressed with what we did in the first half.

Thanks for the compliment. I think what I am seeing is the DLine playing fairly well against the run and the LB's really playing great. (which I hope I conveyed.) But the secondary was tackling poorly consistently. I think the outstanding LB play kept the secondary from having to make the plays.

It's important to mention again that I feel like the front 7's run defense was very good. All the things that we saw in the preseason seem less of an issue because of the LB play. (That could be removing Adibi from the lineup, sliding Diles over and plugging in Cushing.) But I also mention that Okam (who looked terrible in preseason) has improved.

Furthermore it's very hard to judge the CB's in their coverage because of the TV coverage and the Titans less than consistent performance. So I'm going on what is viewable.

I was not as impressed with the pass rush as a whole. Furthermore, we did give up 24 points which I'm not excluding from the individual evaluations.

Silver Oak
09-22-2009, 08:01 AM
Don't want to start another thread, so I'll throw a David Gibbs opinion in here.

Watching the game again this morning, and in the Chris Johnson play when he was uncovered, you can see Gibbs notice Johnson trot out wide, and then notice no one covering him. He motions to Barber to get his attention (as does Kubiak), but Barber seems concerned with the right side TE.

Not really important, but he did notice and try to convey it to the players on the field.

Norg
09-22-2009, 09:57 AM
Toro- it must have been a fake because i think i seen toro look like a buffalo instead of a Bull ????? getting punched by that dumb racoon :shades:

Runner
09-22-2009, 10:14 AM
Don't want to start another thread, so I'll throw a David Gibbs opinion in here.

Watching the game again this morning, and in the Chris Johnson play when he was uncovered, you can see Gibbs notice Johnson trot out wide, and then notice no one covering him. He motions to Barber to get his attention (as does Kubiak), but Barber seems concerned with the right side TE.

Not really important, but he did notice and try to convey it to the players on the field.

I think it IS important. A time out should have been called at the least, if they noticed as you said. There was a very high chance (barring a dropped pass, penalty, QB not seeing him) that the play would result in a touchdown.

Silver Oak
09-22-2009, 10:40 AM
oh, Gibbs definitely noticed...he was actually a few feet onto the field! All this happened within a span of 3-6 seconds. We have the benefit of slow motion replay and 20/20 hindsight.

One of those split second decisions where Gibbs thought he could direct Barber to what was happening. I dunno...can Gibbs even cal TO, or does it have to be a player on the field or Kubiak?

Runner
09-22-2009, 10:47 AM
oh, Gibbs definitely noticed...he was actually a few feet onto the field! All this happened within a span of 3-6 seconds. We have the benefit of slow motion replay and 20/20 hindsight.

One of those split second decisions where Gibbs thought he could direct Barber to what was happening. I dunno...can Gibbs even cal TO, or does it have to be a player on the field or Kubiak?

Kubiak can, and you said he noticed too. I would think an NFL coach could make a quick decision about a time out in that case. Kubiak has some history in letting a play with an obviously bad matchup fly though.

Silver Oak
09-22-2009, 11:35 AM
Kubiak can, and you said he noticed too. I would think an NFL coach could make a quick decision about a time out in that case. Kubiak has some history in letting a play with an obviously bad matchup fly though.

Kubes was trying to move around Gibbs to see what Gibbs was yelling about. You sound like you want to blame Kubiak for this, and I don't want to go there. If you have been on the sidelines in either HS or college ball, you probably know there is a great deal of yelling on almost every play...coaches yelling directions at players, etc.

If Kubes was to call TO every play something on the field is being directed attention to by assistants or other players, we would be out of TO's before the first quarter was over!

As I said before...split second decision had to be made, and hindsight is 20/20.

nero THE zero
09-22-2009, 11:39 AM
Barrett and anyone else who has rewatched the game; did Barwin see any less time in nickel packages after blowing Chris Johnson's draw play for a TD?

Runner
09-22-2009, 12:15 PM
Kubiak can, and you said he noticed too. I would think an NFL coach could make a quick decision about a time out in that case. Kubiak has some history in letting a play with an obviously bad matchup fly though.

Kubes was trying to move around Gibbs to see what Gibbs was yelling about. You sound like you want to blame Kubiak for this, and I don't want to go there. If you have been on the sidelines in either HS or college ball, you probably know there is a great deal of yelling on almost every play...coaches yelling directions at players, etc.

If Kubes was to call TO every play something on the field is being directed attention to by assistants or other players, we would be out of TO's before the first quarter was over!

As I said before...split second decision had to be made, and hindsight is 20/20.

You are correct. I think Kubiak has some responsibilty for plays on the field. I know it's difficult, but with the authority of a head coach comes the responsibility.



Watching the game again this morning, and in the Chris Johnson play when he was uncovered, you can see Gibbs notice Johnson trot out wide, and then notice no one covering him. He motions to Barber to get his attention (as does Kubiak), but Barber seems concerned with the right side TE.


From the previous quote from the initial post, I got the idea Kubiak was trying to get Barber to fix the problem. If so, he had the information necessary to make a time-out decision.

Now you say that Kubiak was trying to move around Gibbs to see the problem. Forgetting for a moment not wanting to blame Kubiak, which is it?I'm basing my opinion on your description right now and need clarification.

I guess I should go watch it myself tonight.

Silver Oak
09-22-2009, 01:11 PM
Barrett and anyone else who has rewatched the game; did Barwin see any less time in nickel packages after blowing Chris Johnson's draw play for a TD?

first time I've seen him on the field ater the big CJ play was at the 11:11 mark in the 4th. My recording is about to run out (long game), so I won't be able to see until the NFLN replay this evening.

76Texan
09-22-2009, 01:51 PM
Barrett and anyone else who has rewatched the game; did Barwin see any less time in nickel packages after blowing Chris Johnson's draw play for a TD?

He came right back in the next series on 1-10.
It's hard to tell how he lined up due to TV's coverage.
Looks like he was playing WILL with Okoye at RDE, Zgonia at RDT, Smith at LDT, and Mario at LDE.
Or we could be in a 3-4 with Mario and Barwin as OLB, Zgonina at the nose, and Okoye+Smith at DT.

Can't tell whether his assignment was to contain the outside, or to work the inside gap.
Lendale White gained about 3 yds to the outside.
If his jobs was to contain the outside, he failed.
If it was to hold up the LG, he did it well.
If it was to penetrate the inside gap, he didn't do it well.

Eventually, I want to concentrate on the plays of Cushing and Barwin to check on their progress.

barrett
09-22-2009, 06:44 PM
Second half:

The second half we see a lot of the same with a few specific changes. Mostly improvements. The big thing I noticed is that weather it was Slaton or Brown the run game continues to struggle because it's clear that on almost every play at least 1 guy is getting whooped on the line and it really makes it difficult. You add to that the fact that neither one of them seems to be handling the lanes that are there very well. For the most part it seems like rhythm. They are not in a rhythm because the've played against several big strong run defenses and 1 guy gets taken away pretty regularly and it really makes it difficult on the rest of the team to create the flow and second level penetration needed to be effective.

The pass game is as good as it can be and the mistakes are literally singular. Schaub over throws AJ one time. THATS IT. THAT'S THE ONLY MISTAKE I COULD FIND IN THE PASSING GAME (aside from the OL at times).

D. Brown Continues to play in a dominant fashion. I actually see him screw up on a run play and the entire ZBS breaks down. It's so critical that all 11 be in sync for this offense. He is such an athlete it's really impressive.

Studdard continues to play "like a starter" by getting blown up consistently and causing breakdowns on both run and pass plays on a consistent basis. I would like to give him credit however, @ the 4:12 mark of the 3rd quarter on the critical 4th and 2 conversion to Dreesen you can watch him come across to "Pink Eye" Van Den Douche who is in the process of being cut by Brown and Studdard just destroys him. It's great fun to watch! Of course on the very next play he's getting Flanniganed. Gotta love his heart though! (god help us). Secondary credit note. He gets very good penetration and pad level on the QB sneak in the 4th.

Meyers plays fairly well throughout in my summation.

Briesel again, fairly sound just not dominant. He gets blown up on the third and 7 that could have given us a first and goal when we had to kick the game winner.

(both these guys get blown up every once in a while against the run but it's not just them it's everybody every once in a while. The only guy consistently getting beaten is Mr Patron'.

Winston pretty much the same from him. He started getting help from the TE by the 4th quarter. Nice to see the coaches continuing to make adjustments. Actually I can't say if he's helping Brisel or if Daniels is helping him because often times OD takes on the DE by him self and runs him past the QB Winston is kind of using his vision to see if he should help Briesel or Daniels.

At times, in flashed you would see the OLine start to gain momentum but it was very much a see saw battle with the tacks. Very fun to watch.

If anything the pass protection improves slightly in the second half.

Leachagain, solid on run blocks, same story as above. Solid but physically not able to blow his guys off the ball. The tacks are very stout to say the least.

Slaton exact same as first half: Slaton is not playing well. Yes, the stout front 7 is making this difficult but he is not showing signs of good vision or burst. He seems somewhat tunnel visioned. (mind you I'm looking for exceptional vision from him because he performed so well last season). He misses a few cut back lanes or on the opposite, cut's back when he shouldn't. Seems to be performing decently in his protection assignments.

C. Brown also struggles somewhat with the lanes but less than Slaton.

Daniels I guess I don't spend much time commenting on the TE's and receivers when they are running routes and catching passes. Partly because they do it consistently well and I've grown to expect nothing less. I only even notice when someone runs their route a yard short of a conversion or a rare drop. But it's worth pointing out that Daniels is clutch and looks bigger and faster when he's out there making conversions on 2nd and 23. He and Dreesen both continue to really struggle to hang on against the tacks DE's but hey, they are TE's man on man with 2 very good DE's. It does blow up a play here and there though but I don't think it's a discredit to them as much as it is a credit to the tacks DE's and the obvious mismatch. That being said, they hang tough.

Schaub Continues to make play after play after play. The only complaint I can come up with is sometimes he puts too much arch on the ball. Open Daniels 2nd and 23 could be a touchdown if he fires it to him. That's all I can come up with. He does one hell of a play fake on the touchdown to Daniels.

A. Johnson It's funny, when you see a deep ball thrown to AJ and he's covered and he doesn't catch it you immediately see the flag come in. It's as if the referee just says, "he didn't catch it, he was being tackled. that's the only explanation. I better throw the flag."

J. Jones / Martinez Jones makes another big catch and well he also "fields" some punts... lets move on shall we?....

Defense second half....

barrett
09-22-2009, 07:16 PM
Defense wnd half:

The D get's more comfortable as the game goes on clearly. I think one key is that certain players seemingly get stronger as the game goes on and they seem to exert their will more and more. They play much safer and don't over shoot things quite as much. The run defense continues to stuff the run and there aren't any major gap assignments missed. The safeties play well and the LB's and front 4 for the most part are very sound and crisp. If this is what we can expect from this defense in the future I think we will be fairly pleased with the results.

The biggest red flags to me are some major issues with 1 or 2 players and somewhat frustrating technique from a pass rush perspective. Having said that, it is much improved from last year and we apply much more consistent pressure than we ever did before.

A. Smith He really seems to get stronger as the game goes on. He gets better penetration and is more sturdy against the run. He does a wonderful job dropping into coverage and occupying space over the TE or in a Zone.

A. Okoyehas three plays in the second half where he has a positive impact on the game. every single other snap he is literally run out of the play easily or kept away from the passer by 1 man. He makes a play for a loss that Cushing would have made if he didn't and he penetrates on a run play causing the RB to change direction slightly. And thirdly, he collapses the pocket causing the QB to run and subsequently fumble the ball giving us the win.

There. I didn't say he totally and completely sucks.

Zgoninaappears to wear out as the game goes on. He becomes less explosive but still seems more of a factor than last year in a different scheme.

Okam continues to look the most improved in the 2nd half. Decent penetration again. He doesn't get many snaps and is more effective on the snaps he plays.

DelJuan Robinson he penetrates, he makes tackles. DELJUAN ROBINSON IS OUR BEST DEFENSIVE TACKLE. He also has a penalty that give the tacks a first down which leads to the CJ touchdown run. I'd take that penalty over Amobi's 3 plays any day of the week.

DELJUAN ROBINSON ISTHE BEST DEFENSIVE TACKLE ON THE TEXANS ROSTER.

Williams is so great at staying home. He's such a smart, gifted player. Good against the run, good against the pass. Good.

Barwin you see less of him in the 2nd half and more of Bulman. He's pretty much in effective but again... time... time... time.

BulmanI'm sticking with my assessment of him. He has the best passrush moves on the team.

Diles flys in and busts up plays. He's a great compliment to Ryans. He plays very violently too at times. Good blitzer too.

Ryansjust looks great very consistent. I don't have much to say about him except that he looks consistently good. Feeling very lucky to have him back there making the calls. He's clearly slow in space but on the line of scrimmage he's exceptional.

Cushing is the other guy who seems to get stronger as the game goes on. He and A. Smith really turned it up. He's a sound tackler and aggressive and smart. He does appear to be the one out of position on the long TD run in the 3rd. He's cheating to the backside of the play when Ryans is blitzing toward that side and he ends up getting locked out of the play.

I'll say it again. This LB corps is going to be the strength of this team for some time to come.


Bennett isSTILL a lousy tackler and sloppy. I guess that's not something you can correct at halftime.

Dunta is STILL a lousy tackler and sloppy. But continues to earn respect because they don't seem to throw at him. His tackling is awful but he's smart and you can see him reading screens etc quickly. He knows what he's doing mentally his technique doesn't walk the walk though.

McCainnothing to report.

Quin same here.

Wilson is the same in the 2nd half. He plays the run and pass fairly well and seems mostly in position.

Barber does not return.

Busing continues to make plays and seems smarter football wise than Barber. His angles are kind of dumb sometimes and I see him sort of taking the same angle as the guy in front of him so if there is a cut back both are run out of the play. He's perhaps playing a bit too aggressively in those situations. Much like when Ferguson stepped in last year, you feel the improvement immediately.

This defense is going to make mistakes. It's going to give up big plays. I'm fine with that. I'm concerned about the pass rush still seeming kind of simplistic at times and I'm concerned about amobi okoye sucking so much overall and Bennett tackling so poorly and playing sloppy in coverage.

Secondary tackling, Amobi, and pass rush... otherwise I'm liking what I saw. I expect it to improve every week. I think the secondary will be exposed on some weeks (IND) and others it will be saved by the front 7 like this week

Go Texans.

Hagar
09-22-2009, 07:27 PM
A. Okoye thinks he played decent according to one article I read. Look, I'm actually very slow to criticize because I am going to assume I don't understand enough about the X's and O's to get what a player is being "asked to do". But unless Amobi Okoye is being asked to just absolutely get thrown around like a rag doll and stand pat and not be a factor in either the run game or the passing game WHATSOEVER!!!!... then I think he's really, really bad. I mean, he was not even a factor AT ALL on (from what I could see) more than 2 plays the entire 1st half. He's quick of the snap but that's all he does. I know DT's are often times designed to just kind of take up linemen so the LB's can make the plays but seriously, he's pushed right out of the play regardless if it's run or pass.
Since I have been very critical of Okoye I decided to watch the defensive plays on slow motion to make sure I was correct. I can tell you right now, don't bother watching the second half because it's the same as the first.

I will admit Okoya did blow up a screen play in the 3rd quarter and sniffed out another. Otherwise, he pretty much got pushed around.

What suprises the most is the realizations that Okoya isn't the speed rusher people make him out to be. Okoya really doesn't have that first step quickness you expect from him.

barrett
09-23-2009, 12:51 AM
A. Okoyehas three plays in the second half where he has a positive impact on the game. every single other snap he is literally run out of the play easily or kept away from the passer by 1 man. He makes a play for a loss that Cushing would have made if he didn't and he penetrates on a run play causing the RB to change direction slightly. And thirdly, he collapses the pocket causing the QB to run and subsequently fumble the ball giving us the win.

There. I didn't say he totally and completely sucks.

sorry. I already did.

and I even pointed out that it was his pressure that forced Collins to scramble and eventually fumble.

but you know what else, I feel like he was quick his rookie season in those first 5 games. I remember being really impressed specifically with his quickness then. I don't know what happened since...

76Texan
09-23-2009, 12:58 AM
2nd QTR
Titans led 14-7

3-2 @ TXn 27.5
TXN single back, TE strong right, slot left, double wides.
Titans in 4-man OVER Front, nickel, press-man, double safeties.
Only 6 men in the box, but we didn't run.
Instead, we called a pass play.
OD got beat by the LDE off the edge.
Schaub hurried a dump pass to Chris Brown out of the backfield.
He was never ready, with his back to the ball still.
The LB #55 Tulloch almost picked off the pass.
We got away with one right there.
That could have been a quick six.

DexmanC
09-23-2009, 01:21 AM
Second half:


Studdard continues to play "like a starter" by getting blown up consistently and causing breakdowns on both run and pass plays on a consistent basis. I would like to give him credit however, @ the 4:12 mark of the 3rd quarter on the critical 4th and 2 conversion to Dreesen you can watch him come across to "Pink Eye" Van Den Douche who is in the process of being cut by Brown and Studdard just destroys him. It's great fun to watch! Of course on the very next play he's getting Flanniganed. Gotta love his heart though! (god help us). Secondary credit note. He gets very good penetration and pad level on the QB sneak in the 4th.


Tenyardtorrents has this game up, and DAMN this kid gets blown up A LOT!!
I can see how Kubes loves his effort, but he ain't no Chester Pitts. Honestly,
I'm still pissed that Weary got his leg broken. Studdard, Myers, and Brisiel
means more posts about how our running game sucks. Oh, what I'd give
to have a healthy Pitts and Weary pairing at guard now.

barrett
09-23-2009, 12:40 PM
you know it's weird to hear Kubiak speak about Studdard now. He's started to kind of drop in little comments here and there about how he's not as talented or not as good and I can't tell if he's finally seeing it or if he's a bit uncomfortable with having him in there out of dire need.

I'm guessing this is a guy that Gibbs really believes he can mold into something given time. Well here's his chance. He's had him with the 1's all camp and now for probably a month and a half during the season. Let's see if Gibbs can get some marked improvement out of him. I'm hoping for only getting blown up 6 times on Sunday and then maybe reduce that by 1 every game after. Not likely but that's what I'm hoping.

But every game I watch with him I probably see 4 or 5 instances where that tenacity shines through very clearly. I am starting to understand why they've kept him around this long despite him not being very good. He does have something that you can't bottle up and sell.

Unfortunately, tenacity doesn't really matter if you're flanniganed every 4th play and the RB has to re-route his run.