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9nines
09-16-2009, 12:17 PM
I was born and raised in a city that had a CFL team for a hundred years...that team ended up folding amid fan apathy, institutional losing, etc...and a few years later another ownership came in with a new team, with a new name, new colors....that lasted awhile, it was sold again, team needed to genrate some excitement and so they brought back the old name and colors.

From Wiki:

Montreal Concordes

.After the original Alouettes franchise folded, Montreal businessman and Montreal Expos founder Charles Bronfman came to the rescue and financed a new club for the 1982 season under the name Montreal Concordes. This new team inherited the Alouettes franchise history and its players.

In 1986, the team attempted to embrace its predecessor's history and regenerate flagging fan interest by rebranding itself the "new" Montreal Alouettes.

While I understand an extraordinary set of circumstances would have to line up for the Oil to ever return I've never viewed it as an impossiblity. Likely? Not even close. Impossible? No.

Some of the extraordinary circumstances that would have to line up as I've been discussing for years:

1. Texans are institutional losers who let down their fan base time and time again and never seem to meet expectations.

- We are half way there.

2. This leads to fan apathy. Waning interest. Frustration. And the Texans start taking on a negative vibe locally.

- They have a reservoir of revenue stream that dates back to their launch. I don't really know what theuir season tix and corporate bookings are, when the renewals come, what the waiting lists are if any...but I do know that if you keep losing this reeservoir dries up.

Houston fans are notoriously apathetic in bad times.

3. Changes of ownership. Does McNair have the appetite for institutional losing if it keeps going on? He once was a hero. What about when under constant critcism and when revenues are getting pressured at the same time?

Bud is, like, 90 or something.

If all of this came to pass...and a local Houston ownership group bought the team...it would be stupid NOT to try and rebrand them the Oilers. They would pay the Adams family some millions and they would own it.

Everyone loves a nostalgia story. It would create so much buzz it would be ridiculous. It would jolt the entire city and fanbase. It would take the story from pon the field, where they are losers, to off it.

They would sell a billion tickets. New merchandising. It would create so much revenue it would be ridiculous.

As much as they may deny it...that town has never forgot the Oilers and they never will. It's part of their heritage.

They just have to keep losing.

Mr. White
09-16-2009, 12:21 PM
Bud already closed that loophole before he left town.

That's why he has the records, history, etc. at TN now.

9nines
09-16-2009, 12:28 PM
Bud already closed that loophole before he left town.

That's why he has the records, history, etc. at TN now.

But those rights could be sold to the owner of the Texans.

Lets assume it happened. Would fans support the idea - would you want it? In other words, if the Texans changed their team name and logos etc. to the Oilers, would it increase your support even if the team continued to disappointed on the field?

hobie
09-16-2009, 12:28 PM
I would not want it now !!!

Dan B.
09-16-2009, 12:33 PM
But those rights could be sold to the owner of the Texans.

Lets assume it happened. Would fans support the idea - would you want it? In other words, if the Texans changed their team name and logos etc. to the Oilers, would it increase your support even if the team continued to disappointed on the field?

It wouldn't change my level of support -- they'd still be my team. But it would be cool. I'd support it if someone tried to do it.

Probably have to change Tennessee's uni's tho. Even their non throwbacks look awfully similar to the Oilers' uniform.

ObsiWan
09-16-2009, 12:34 PM
But those rights could be sold to the owner of the Texans.

Lets assume it happened. Would fans support the idea - would you want it? In other words, if the Texans changed their team name and logos etc. to the Oilers, would it increase your support even if the team continued to disappointed on the field?

I understand where you're coming from, but I fear that there are too many bad memories and feelings (mostly because of Bud) associated with the Oiler name for that to play well here.

You'd have to bring back Bum and Earl for it to even have a hope of working.

And too many fans would think, "Wait, part of my ticket price is going to pay off Bud for a team that should never have left?!? I don't think so"

gtexan02
09-16-2009, 12:37 PM
Bob will never sell the team. Its a cashcow, regardless of record

9nines
09-16-2009, 12:42 PM
Bob will never sell the team. Its a cashcow, regardless of record


Yes, I agree: with corporate suites and sponsorship, etc., traditional fan support changes do not really change revenues and the Texans have a fairly high revenue stream as I understand.

Vinny
09-16-2009, 12:43 PM
it's pollyanna thinking to assume the fans are so shallow that we root for a name and team colors. The Oilers were popular because they put a winning product on the field. When the Oilers didn't win in the early 70's there was no Luv ya blue, but when the product was upgraded and the Oilers stood toe to toe with the historic Steelers (a team that seems to always be good no matter who coaches or plays for them), there was great love fore the team as well as when the Warren Moon Oilers were perpetual playoff teams. It wasn't the name, it was the product. It ain't gonna happen in any case, and it's a dead horse.

Mr. White
09-16-2009, 12:45 PM
(sort of) related....

In +/- 10 years, it'll be the NFL's 100th anniversary.

I imagine that entails throwback uniforms. I wonder if we're gonna have one.

Texan_Bill
09-16-2009, 12:47 PM
But those rights could be sold to the owner of the Texans.

Lets assume it happened. Would fans support the idea - would you want it? In other words, if the Texans changed their team name and logos etc. to the Oilers, would it increase your support even if the team continued to disappointed on the field?

You obviously have no idea what kind of scumbag Dud Adams is. This is the same guy who drafted VY - against his HC & OC's advice, simply to slap the city of Houston in the face..... yet again.

There should and will be only one Houston Oilers. We remember the greatness that was Earl, the humor that was Bum, the grittiness that was Dante and the toughness that was Dr. Doom (among many others).

JDizzle
09-16-2009, 12:51 PM
It's not gonna happen, go troll another forum.

TimeKiller
09-16-2009, 01:00 PM
IF it was gonna happen, it SHOULD have happened at the new franchises' inception. Not now. Frankly I've always thought the name Texans was stupid but I live in Houston so this is my team.

Vinny
09-16-2009, 01:01 PM
(sort of) related....

In +/- 10 years, it'll be the NFL's 100th anniversary.

I imagine that entails throwback uniforms. I wonder if we're gonna have one.we are in our throwbacks currently. all 32 uniform combinations.

Dread-Head
09-16-2009, 01:05 PM
The "Love ya Blue" era was a beautiful time, but it's over now. We should remember it fondly, but we'll never see the Tyler Rose knocking Mel Blount into next week or Mr. Warren Moon to Heywood Jeffires again. We can drink a toast to the Oilers, but the Texans' will have their era and we'll get to witness it.

Hervoyel
09-16-2009, 01:08 PM
If I don't see another thread like this for the next 40 years (assuming I live so long) it will be too soon. "Oilers" are gone. Dead. Over. History.

We have what we have, warts and all. Wishing publicly that we still had the Oilers just tells every troll that comes wandering our way where to begin.

Carr Bombed
09-16-2009, 03:17 PM
How the hell is changing the team name back to the Oilers supposed to gain fan support :rolleyes:

You can't just take a turd and paint it columbia blue and expect fans to buy that crap. The only thing this idea would do is make us a even bigger league wide laughingstock, becuase it would make us look desperate and incompetent. The only thing that is going to increase fan support is wins and hard faught playoff game and other games that matter at the end of the season.

I swear I've seen some rediculous ideas on this board, but this one is near the top.

NEWSFLASH PEOPLE....

THE OILERS ARE DEAD, they're never coming back so for those of you who can't get over them, I suggest you enjoy the rest of the games the Titans wear the old AFC jerseys.