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b0ng
09-06-2009, 08:28 PM
I seriously doubt it as he has given up TD's to big receivers before but we'll see.

mariowillshine15
09-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Only 2 things shut down Andre Johnson injuries and that robot Nmadi Asomugha.

Jackie Chiles
09-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Only 2 things shut down Andre Johnson injuries and that robot Nmadi Asomugha.

He will get another crack at that guy this season and I would be very surprised if AJ doesn't have a much better game.

RT22
09-06-2009, 08:49 PM
I think they will move Andre around to get mismatches. Also look for who ever Lito Sheppard is holding. That guy has regressed and was called for three pass interferences in the game I was watching the other day.

sometexansfan
09-06-2009, 09:03 PM
Can I vote ******* no?

Bubbajwp
09-06-2009, 09:20 PM
The dude is a beast but IMO AJ still gets in the endzone atleast once.

m5kwatts
09-06-2009, 09:34 PM
AJ doesn't get shut down, he only shuts down himself see @Tennesse and @Oakland last year

Dapper
09-06-2009, 10:58 PM
i have as good a chance at shutting a.j. down as revis does. ain't gonna happen!

TexanSam
09-06-2009, 11:23 PM
If Chuck Norris and the Dos Equis Man magically created some human god, even he could not shut down Andre Johnson

Statis22
09-06-2009, 11:35 PM
If Chuck Norris and the Dos Equis Man magically created some human god, even he could not shut down Andre Johnson

:ohsnap:

The Pencil Neck
09-06-2009, 11:53 PM
If Chuck Norris and the Dos Equis Man magically created some human god, even he could not shut down Andre Johnson

Chuck Norris ad the Dos Equis Mand DID magically create a Human God.

His name is Andre Johnson.

Bubbajwp
09-06-2009, 11:58 PM
Chuck Norris ad the Dos Equis Mand DID magically create a Human God.

His name is Andre Johnson.

So the real question is could Andre Johnson shutdown Andre Johnson?

brakos82
09-07-2009, 12:02 AM
So the real question is could Andre Johnson shutdown Andre Johnson?

I think that would create a hole in the time-space continuum.

But Andre Johnson could fix it.

ObsiWan
09-07-2009, 12:16 AM
I think that would create a hole in the time-space continuum.

But Andre Johnson could fix it.

How do you think Andre gets open so regularly?
He opens a hole in the Time-Space continuum at the LOS and pops out into the open. It's Andre's extreme sense of fairness keeps him from exploiting that ability for more TDs.

jppaul
09-07-2009, 12:39 AM
The only thing that shut AJ down last year vs. the Raiders was the offensive coordinator.

76Texan
09-07-2009, 12:55 AM
The only thing that shut AJ down last year vs. the Raiders was the offensive coordinator.

The OC, the HC, and Matt Schaub!

imatexan
09-07-2009, 01:58 AM
Wow

44-0 rite now.

Got to love it!

The Pencil Neck
09-07-2009, 02:29 AM
We're not biased.

Really.

b0ng
09-07-2009, 02:35 AM
Well. I'm on my blackberry right now so I can only provide what I know about Revis. He's made a lot of progress since being drafted in 2007. I believe he was in last years pro bowl and is probably considered the biggest talent in the Jets defense. I can't dig up any links on him and I'm not very knowledgeable on his work. I has been on the field with Randy Moss 4 times and I don't know how well he did, although it must not have been too shabby.

Yes AJ is an established beast in this offense. Our receiving corps really shines while he's getting first downs and making a lot of YAC. Capable of being a deep threat, will toast you and carry people in. I get that.

I think the Jets may plan on having them go one on one.

brakos82
09-07-2009, 12:08 PM
Well. I'm on my blackberry right now so I can only provide what I know about Revis. He's made a lot of progress since being drafted in 2007. I believe he was in last years pro bowl and is probably considered the biggest talent in the Jets defense. I can't dig up any links on him and I'm not very knowledgeable on his work. I has been on the field with Randy Moss 4 times and I don't know how well he did, although it must not have been too shabby.

Yes AJ is an established beast in this offense. Our receiving corps really shines while he's getting first downs and making a lot of YAC. Capable of being a deep threat, will toast you and carry people in. I get that.

I think the Jets may plan on having them go one on one.
The last time a pro-bowl corner went 1-on-1 against AJ, he got 200+ yards.

MojoMan
09-07-2009, 12:15 PM
The last time a pro-bowl corner went 1-on-1 against AJ, he got 200+ yards.

Who was that?

brakos82
09-07-2009, 12:17 PM
Who was that?
Finnegan-igan.

b0ng
09-07-2009, 12:22 PM
The last time a pro-bowl corner went 1-on-1 against AJ, he got 200+ yards.

Revis can do it without a top of the line DL in front of him.

Like that freak in Oakland.

dc_txtech
09-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Wow

44-0 rite now.

Got to love it!

Looks like SteveSlaton20 accidentally hit the wrong button, can a mod please fix this.

SteveSlaton20
09-07-2009, 01:08 PM
Looks like SteveSlaton20 accidentally hit the wrong button, can a mod please fix this.

yeah, wrong button :(

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 01:13 PM
I voted no. I don't think DReevis can shut AJ down. But since this is a team game, and the Jets have DReevis, Lito Sheppard, and Kerry Rhodes(the most under-rated safety in the league) I think we're in trouble, if we don't have a good plan.

Farough
09-07-2009, 01:47 PM
I'm sure on a good day he could.
So i voted Yes.
However, I don't think he will do it on Sunday.

WhiteShoeWillie
09-07-2009, 02:03 PM
Could he? Sure he could, has shut down guys like Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald. Will he? Probably not, AJ is a beast. I doubt AJ has a field day on him, but he'll get his catches.

If I'm the Texans I'd be passing at Lito all day. He's looked horrible.

Specnatz
09-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Could he? Sure he could, has shut down guys like Randy Moss and Larry Fitzgerald. Will he? Probably not, AJ is a beast. I doubt AJ has a field day on him, but he'll get his catches.

If I'm the Texans I'd be passing at Lito all day. He's looked horrible.

Oh trust me they will be throwing at him all day long.

TEXANS84
09-07-2009, 02:47 PM
The last time a pro-bowl corner went 1-on-1 against AJ, he got 200+ yards.

Nnamdi Asomugha shut down AJ the week after he went off on Finnegan.

Capt. Spaulding
09-07-2009, 02:47 PM
You do understand that Revis won't be the only jet on the field come Sunday. Not that I'm knocking you guys or your team but ya'll are more sunshiners than us JETS fans. I really think you should be asking yourselves if your team will get over 500 this year instead of if 1 guy on your team is better than 1 guy on ours. But you do have one HELL of a receiver on your team but we have a few really good playmakers on ours. Go, JETS!

MojoMan
09-07-2009, 02:53 PM
You do understand that Revis won't be the only jet on the field come Sunday. Not that I'm knocking you guys or your team but ya'll are more sunshiners than us JETS fans. I really think you should be asking yourselves if your team will get over 500 this year instead of if 1 guy on your team is better than 1 guy on ours. But you do have one HELL of a receiver on your team but we have a few really good playmakers on ours. Go, JETS!

You guys have this same thread going on the jetsinsider board.

http://www.jetsinsider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199001

Apparently Texans fans are not the only ones giving special attention to this match-up.

By the way, welcome to the board.

Lucky
09-07-2009, 02:58 PM
Looks like SteveSlaton20 accidentally hit the wrong button, can a mod please fix this.
I don't believe it can be done, fellow sunshiners.

Maybe a question that would spark more debate here is, "Can Dunta Robinson shut down Jerricho Cotchery?". Our new Jet guests might get a good laugh over this one.

Capt. Spaulding
09-07-2009, 03:00 PM
Thanks for the welcome. And, by the way, I do like your teams chances this year but until we see what either of these teams are about it should be difficult to discount our team till the game is over. I don't post on that site. THEGANGGREEN.COM, all the way, baby, and we have yet to touch on game 1 really. All the talk is about Brandon Marshall. But, as a JETS fan I will say that EVERY game worries me. 40 years and counting, you know. Good luck but I hope you all will be posting a "this is what we should have done vs. the JETS" come 4:30 on Sun. Go JETS!

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 04:04 PM
Oh trust me they will be throwing at him all day long.

Really? when have we ever gone after a weak corner?

Even if a corner/safety gets taken out of the game, and a cold rookie has to come in, we don't attack/exploit that like other teams do. We don't even acknowledge that it happens. We act like we believe one corner is just as good/bad as the next.

It even shows in how we acquire them.

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 04:06 PM
You do understand that Revis won't be the only jet on the field come Sunday. Not that I'm knocking you guys or your team but ya'll are more sunshiners than us JETS fans. I really think you should be asking yourselves if your team will get over 500 this year instead of if 1 guy on your team is better than 1 guy on ours. But you do have one HELL of a receiver on your team but we have a few really good playmakers on ours. Go, JETS!

Thankyou so much for coming into my house and telling me how to act?

Would you like for me to prepare my wife & daughters for you as well?

Bubbajwp
09-07-2009, 04:15 PM
You do understand that Revis won't be the only jet on the field come Sunday. Not that I'm knocking you guys or your team but ya'll are more sunshiners than us JETS fans. I really think you should be asking yourselves if your team will get over 500 this year instead of if 1 guy on your team is better than 1 guy on ours. But you do have one HELL of a receiver on your team but we have a few really good playmakers on ours. Go, JETS!

You do understand that AJ wont be the only Texan on the field come sunday right?

Capt. Spaulding
09-07-2009, 05:30 PM
Thankyou so much for coming into my house and telling me how to act?

Would you like for me to prepare my wife & daughters for you as well?

Man you guys can't take any critism at all. Even when I'm not criticizing. Maybe AJ will win the battle against Revis but the other 10 guys will have a little something to say about the outcome. Did I say we'd win? Nope. Just replying to a post.

Capt. Spaulding
09-07-2009, 05:35 PM
You do understand that AJ wont be the only Texan on the field come sunday right?

And ,yes, I realize that but that wasn't the threads topic. You are talking like that is the one area that is a given. You haven't had a winning season so I'm sure you have come to the realization that it takes more than your elite receiver to have one. Man you are an angry group. I haven't said one bad word about your team and you act like I took that one guy up on his offer of his daughter and wife. Go JETS!

Wolf
09-07-2009, 05:40 PM
I think we read the posts with a new york accent is why we are so touchy on posts from Jet fans :chickendance:

:joker:

texasguy346
09-07-2009, 05:50 PM
Aren't Pace and Ellis out for this game? If so the better question would be will Gholston be able to get through Winston and/or Brown to get to Schaub?

From what I watched of the Jets in preseason Gholston looks like he's still struggling to live up to expectations. It should be interesting to see how he does on Sunday. :turtle:

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 09:42 PM
Man you guys can't take any critism at all. Even when I'm not criticizing. Maybe AJ will win the battle against Revis but the other 10 guys will have a little something to say about the outcome. Did I say we'd win? Nope. Just replying to a post.

Criticism is cool.

Not to expect any blow back isn't understandable.

You came in here telling us what we should be worried about. Not considering we may very well be worried about it, but this particular thread was about a particular match-up of this game.

I don't think we've got a thread dedicated to this game yet. But if you read through my post, you'll see that I warn about our team & our coaches taking this game lightly.

I respect your backfield, and have said so.

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 09:52 PM
Aren't Pace and Ellis out for this game? If so the better question would be will Gholston be able to get through Winston and/or Brown to get to Schaub?

From what I watched of the Jets in preseason Gholston looks like he's still struggling to live up to expectations. It should be interesting to see how he does on Sunday. :turtle:

In a 3-4, the DE's aren't necessarily lined up over the OTs. It depends on what they're thinking, and what they are trying to do. But default situation, the DE's are lined up against the guards.

We're talking 5 on 5 when we're looking at a 3-4, which is why this defense is difficult to run against. All your line men have someone in front of them, so getting to the second level isn't a given for any of the front 5.

In Pass pro, you're exactly right. Calvin Pace would be working against Duane Brown (who has shown difficulty working against a 3-4 rush end) or a tight-end, OD or Dressen.

The guys that concern me the most, out of their front 7, is Kris Jenkins, and Bart Scott. If we have trouble running the ball, it's going to be because of these two.

I understand our passing game dictates our offense. It is after all a WCO. But if we can't keep our offense on the field....... which should be read "running game". We're going to be asking an aweful lot of our suspect defense.

b0ng
09-07-2009, 09:53 PM
I'm gonna call my shot. If the Jets stick Revis on AJ mano e mano, AJ will take advantage of Revis's 4 inches he gives up to AJ. If Matt Schaub is not getting pressured, it's going to be lights out. He may or may not get into the endzone but he will move the chains if Revis is on an island.

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 10:27 PM
I'm gonna call my shot. If the Jets stick Revis on AJ mano e mano, AJ will take advantage of Revis's 4 inches he gives up to AJ. If Matt Schaub is not getting pressured, it's going to be lights out. He may or may not get into the endzone but he will move the chains if Revis is on an island.

So you think Matt Schaub will be ready for week 1?

You think Schaub has a knack for putting the ball where only AJ can get it?

You think Schaub knows how to take advantage of a mismatch?

I'd like to know why you think such things. I've seen good/great QBs do the things you're talking about. I'm not ready to put Matt Schuab in that group.

If the Texans are even concerned about Darrelle Revis, which I think they should be, you're going to see one of those unexplainable games where we kept the ball out of AJ's hands.

buddyboy
09-07-2009, 10:33 PM
So you think Matt Schaub will be ready for week 1?

You think Schaub has a knack for putting the ball where only AJ can get it?

You think Schaub knows how to take advantage of a mismatch?

I'd like to know why you think such things. I've seen good/great QBs do the things you're talking about. I'm not ready to put Matt Schuab in that group.

If the Texans are even concerned about Darrelle Revis, which I think they should be, you're going to see one of those unexplainable games where we kept the ball out of AJ's hands.

You wouldn't put Matt Schaub in the "good" QB group? Yeah, he's injury prone out the whazoo, but he's been quite good in the time that he has been healthy.

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 10:43 PM
You wouldn't put Matt Schaub in the "good" QB group? Yeah, he's injury prone out the whazoo, but he's been quite good in the time that he has been healthy.

David Carr has looked good in this system. Sage Rosenfels has looked good in this system. Rex freak'n Grossman has looked good in this system.


Jake the Snake has looked good in the system. Bob(??) Griese, the younger done nothing Griese, has looked good in this system.

Elway, Montana, Young, & I'll go out on a limb, and say Cutler has looked out freak'n standing in this system.

Take it how you want.

buddyboy
09-07-2009, 10:56 PM
David Carr has looked good in this system. Sage Rosenfels has looked good in this system. Rex freak'n Grossman has looked good in this system.


Jake the Snake has looked good in the system. Bob(??) Griese, the younger done nothing Griese, has looked good in this system.

Elway, Montana, Young, & I'll go out on a limb, and say Cutler has looked out freak'n standing in this system.

Take it how you want.

So...what you're saying is you don't think Plummer, Griese, Elway, Montana, Young, or Cutler are in the "good/great" QB catagory.

l_j_r
09-07-2009, 10:59 PM
... this is one of the prime match-ups that we are very excited/nervous about as jets fans ...

... i did not make a selection in the poll as i am very torn over what will happen here ...

... revis is the jets most talented and consistent player bar none ... jenkins is more important to us ... scott the rabid pitbull on the field implementing rex's grand scheme ... and leon washington more of a homerun threat ... but revis is THE MAN ...

... as far as i can tell AJ is the same for you guys ... please correct me if i'm wrong here ...

... unfortunately our #2 cb spot has been the polar opposite since revis was drafted ... with sheppard this preseason committing pass interference against everyone including the girl scouts coming to his door selling cookies ... and dwight lowery last season and this not having the 5th gear needed to keep up with top receivers when isolated without safety help ... there is not any reason for teams to test revis ...


... i picture a realistic statline for AJ is 6 catches 80 yards ... if that does not include a TD i will be very happy with revis's performance ...





l_j_r

The Pencil Neck
09-07-2009, 11:10 PM
... i picture a realistic statline for AJ is 6 catches 80 yards ... if that does not include a TD i will be very happy with revis's performance ...





l_j_r

I think this brings up a question about the defense you guys play over there. Do your corners play a side or do your corners play a man? Is Revis going to be singled up on AJ most of the day or can we scheme away from Revis?

In the Raider game last year, a lot of people said that Asomugha shut AJ down but it was really the play-calling more than anything else that shut him down. He was used mostly as a decoy that day and it didn't work. The Raiders played sides for the most part, iirc, and so sometimes Asomugha was on AJ and sometimes not.

A thing about this offense is that all the receivers are pretty good and have their function and the QB's usually spread the ball around pretty good.

thunderkyss
09-07-2009, 11:40 PM
So...what you're saying is you don't think Plummer, Griese, Elway, Montana, Young, or Cutler are in the "good/great" QB catagory.

Elway, Montana, Young & Cutler looked outstanding in the QB friendly system because they are/were great QBs.

Plummer was/is very talented, but not really a good QB.

Griese...... was also very talented, and really a pretty good QB.

Matt Schuab so far to date, looks to benefit from our QB friendly system, more than we've benefitted from Matt Schaub.

l_j_r
09-08-2009, 12:01 AM
I think this brings up a question about the defense you guys play over there. Do your corners play a side or do your corners play a man? Is Revis going to be singled up on AJ most of the day or can we scheme away from Revis?

... that's a good ? ... with this being rex's 1st regular season game we are still learning what he really is going to do scheme wise ...

... my expectation is we will see revis matched up on AJ the majority of the game ... most of those i believe he will be on an island without safety help ... the major reason for that being our need for help at the #2 cb ... also one of you guys expressed how talented kerry rhodes is and this is true ... he should have a monster year for us ... for arguments sake let's say ed reed lite ... expect him to be brought in on blitzes and centerfielding with leonhard used more in run support ...

... again - we as ny jets fans are learning what rex will do as we went with only the vanilla preseason d .. and also his ravens scheme's to go on ... (personally i believe he kept fabian washington on the left side in balt ... but i'm not 100% on that) ...



In the Raider game last year, a lot of people said that Asomugha shut AJ down but it was really the play-calling more than anything else that shut him down. He was used mostly as a decoy that day and it didn't work. The Raiders played sides for the most part, iirc, and so sometimes Asomugha was on AJ and sometimes not.

A thing about this offense is that all the receivers are pretty good and have their function and the QB's usually spread the ball around pretty good.


... while i don't expect your coaching staff to use AJ as a decoy against us ... there is more of a risk going up against revis while sheppard and lowery should be much easier for walter, davis, daniels, anderson and crew to attack ...

... if AJ is lined up on the other side of the field from revis other than a trick play we are in DEEP $h*t !!!!!!!!!!! ...



l_j_r

Dan B.
09-08-2009, 12:12 AM
... this is one of the prime match-ups that we are very excited/nervous about as jets fans ...

... i did not make a selection in the poll as i am very torn over what will happen here ...

... revis is the jets most talented and consistent player bar none ... jenkins is more important to us ... scott the rabid pitbull on the field implementing rex's grand scheme ... and leon washington more of a homerun threat ... but revis is THE MAN ...

... as far as i can tell AJ is the same for you guys ... please correct me if i'm wrong here ...

... unfortunately our #2 cb spot has been the polar opposite since revis was drafted ... with sheppard this preseason committing pass interference against everyone including the girl scouts coming to his door selling cookies ... and dwight lowery last season and this not having the 5th gear needed to keep up with top receivers when isolated without safety help ... there is not any reason for teams to test revis ...


... i picture a realistic statline for AJ is 6 catches 80 yards ... if that does not include a TD i will be very happy with revis's performance ...





l_j_r

AJ is THE MAN for us, no doubt. But Kevin Walter (who is day to day right now) is the workhorse -- the guy that steps up on the third and 6 and hauls it down in traffic. Daniels can fill that role as well. I also think that minus Walter you could see David Anderson step up in a big way. AD is the homerun threat, with Jacoby Jones being groomed for the part in future years.

The Texans actually spread the ball around quite a bit, with Steve Slaton also getting a large number of short passes intended to isolate him in single coverage. You'll even see them toss it to Vonte Leach a couple of times a game. Don't expect them to force it to AJ unless the Jets pull Revis off of him.

l_j_r
09-08-2009, 12:42 AM
AJ is THE MAN for us, no doubt. ... Don't expect them to force it to AJ unless the Jets pull Revis off of him.

... thanks for the info dan ...





l_j_r

HOU-TEX
09-08-2009, 10:07 AM
I think we should be asking ourselves, can our run D stop Jones and Washington? At least, that is my primary concern.

The Pencil Neck
09-08-2009, 10:49 AM
I think we should be asking ourselves, can our run D stop Jones and Washington? At least, that is my primary concern.

And that is mine.

buddyboy
09-08-2009, 11:03 AM
And that is mine.

Their running attack scares me, especially with how weak our run D has looked in the preseason.

Does it make me less of a Texan fan that I'm definitely starting Thomas Jones on my fantasy team? :specnatz:

BigBull17
09-08-2009, 11:06 AM
Their running attack scares me, especially with how weak our run D has looked in the preseason.

Does it make me less of a Texan fan that I'm definitely starting Thomas Jones on my fantasy team? :specnatz:

May your fantasy team lose this week.

Hervoyel
09-08-2009, 11:12 AM
David Carr has looked good in this system. Sage Rosenfels has looked good in this system. Rex freak'n Grossman has looked good in this system.


Jake the Snake has looked good in the system. Bob(??) Griese, the younger done nothing Griese, has looked good in this system.

Elway, Montana, Young, & I'll go out on a limb, and say Cutler has looked out freak'n standing in this system.

Take it how you want.


That is not correct. David Carr did not look good in this system. That's why he spent one year in it and was sent packing despite that multimillion dollar bonus payment he'd just received.

As for the rest of it I can find no fault. David Carr was one example that just didn't float.

HOU-TEX
09-08-2009, 11:18 AM
Their running attack scares me, especially with how weak our run D has looked in the preseason.

Does it make me less of a Texan fan that I'm definitely starting Thomas Jones on my fantasy team? :specnatz:

So am I. Historically, it'd be dumb if we didn't start him, right?

TheRealJoker
09-08-2009, 11:39 AM
I have a feeling we're gonna send the other Andre deep so that Sheppard can get called for pass interference or burned quite often :)

Texan_Bill
09-08-2009, 12:26 PM
I think we should be asking ourselves, can our run D stop Jones and Washington? At least, that is my primary concern.

And that is mine.

Count me in this group. :brickwall:

Thorn
09-08-2009, 12:27 PM
Count me in this group. :brickwall:

Me too. Run defense is my primary concern about the Texans right now.

edit to say and also stopping a screen pass.

Vinny
09-08-2009, 12:58 PM
I think we should be asking ourselves, can our run D stop Jones and Washington? At least, that is my primary concern.
I see them running the ball quite a bit and giving the Rook lots of max protect packages. We haven't stopped the run well in the past and we haven't rushed the passer well so somethings gotta give unless it's us. :goodluck:

l_j_r
09-08-2009, 02:48 PM
... i would lean away from jones in fantasy league's ... if you have another comparable option ...

... his goal-line production has not been what we as jets fans have hoped to see over the years and he is not a homerun threat who will take it to the house ... if your up the middle run d is as bad as many of you are saying that may be the only saving grace for getting him td's ... if it was me personally i'd be more inclined to start washington even though he will get less touches on offense ... probably 20-25 vs. 10-15 range ... he should have a chance to put up some good numbers in the return game as well ...




l_j_r

NitroGSXR
09-08-2009, 04:46 PM
I voted yes. It's silly to think that Revis could not shut AJ down. Any given Sunday is why. I hope Andre goes ballistic on him and i'm sure he most likely would but you never know. Anything's possible on Sundays. Any Given Sunday are words I've learned to live by. I think ima go rent that tonight. Lol.

CloakNNNdagger
09-12-2009, 06:59 AM
With all the potential weaknesses of the Texans, it seems that the Jets will actually concentrate their efforts on shutting down AJ:

As much as everyone is anticipating Mark Sanchez's and Rex Ryan's respective debuts, all eyes may end up glued to the pivotal matchup between Darrelle Revis and Andre Johnson, the Jets' All-Pro cornerback and the Texans' All-Pro wide receiver.

"He's very explosive and he's their go-to guy on offense," Revis said Friday at the Jets' practice facility in Florham Park, N.J. "There's a couple things you can do to stop him and contain him, and that's what we've been focusing on all week, getting after him."

It won't be an easy task, even for a lockdown corner who Texans coach Gary Kubiak said was "as good as there is in the league."

Johnson led the NFL with 115 receptions for 1,575 yards last season, becoming the first player to top the league in both categories since 2005. Over the past three seasons, he has been the most productive receiver in the NFL, averaging 87.1 yards per game. He begins the year with 486 receptions and is 621 yards shy of 7,000 for his career, and he has caught at least one pass in 50 straight games.

It's a streak that Revis, who will often be lined up against Johnson in one-on-one coverage at the edges of the field, has no visions of stopping.

"I can't say I'm going to shut this guy out. What we're going to try and do is keep it to a minimum and don't give up big plays," Revis said. "He may catch a five-yard hitch, he may catch a drag route, well, OK, whatever. What we don't want is him making big plays on us: 50-, 60-, 80-yard touchdowns. ... We're going to do our best to stop him and shut him down."

And by "we," Revis means more than just his teammates providing help in the secondary. The best coverage may come from the defensive line every time Houston quarterback Matt Schaub drops back to pass.

"We can definitely do something to help Revis out, and we're going to try the best we can to take a lot of the pressure off of him," defensive tackle Kris Jenkins said.

Jenkins, regrettably, won't be fixated on the marquee showdown. "I wish I had the opportunity to sit back and watch it," he said. "Unfortunately I don't, I have to work at the same time."

Revis' statement is somewhat contradictory, since holding AJ to 5 yard hitches would be the equivalent of shutting him down...........something that is extremely unlikely whether Schaub or Grossman are directing the missiles.

LINK (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/2009/09/12/2009-09-12_jets_.html)

ubecool454
09-12-2009, 07:42 AM
Nnamdi Asomugha shut down AJ the week after he went off on Finnegan.

That was not Nnamdi ..it was the Raiders defensive scheme. Asomugha was on Andre less than half of the game.

ubecool454
09-12-2009, 07:55 AM
And ,yes, I realize that but that wasn't the threads topic. You are talking like that is the one area that is a given. You haven't had a winning season so I'm sure you have come to the realization that it takes more than your elite receiver to have one. Man you are an angry group. I haven't said one bad word about your team and you act like I took that one guy up on his offer of his daughter and wife. Go JETS!

You do realize it was 7 seasons before the Jets finally had a winning season?

l_j_r
09-12-2009, 09:50 AM
I have a feeling we're gonna send the other Andre deep so that Sheppard can get called for pass interference or burned quite often :)

... this is what i am more concerned about ...

... if you guys gameplan to test revis and feature AJ i like the jets chances ...

... if you guys gameplan to focus on the rest of the wr's & te's attacking sheppard i give the nod to the texans ...





l_j_r

Bubbajwp
09-12-2009, 12:33 PM
16 teams tried to shutdown AJ last season and well (115 receptions for 1,575 yards) They didnt fair to well.

IMO if your entire defensive gameplan is to stop AJ your going to get burned by OD, Kevin Walter and Slaton all game long.

WWJD
09-12-2009, 12:40 PM
16 teams tried to shutdown AJ last season and well (15 receptions for 1,575 yards) They didnt fair to well.

IMO if your entire defensive gameplan is to stop AJ your going to get burned by OD, Kevin Walter and Slaton all game long.

You might want to correct those stats...15 receptions?

b0ng
09-12-2009, 12:52 PM
You might want to correct those stats...15 receptions?

Andre Johnson: ~100 yards per catch.

HJam72
09-12-2009, 01:11 PM
You might want to correct those stats...15 receptions?

Andre Johnson: ~100 yards per catch.

Wow! Andre Johnson: 1500 yds. per game. :fans:

CloakNNNdagger
09-12-2009, 03:30 PM
If the Texans have their way with Gholston, the CBs are going to be quite occupied with worrying about the run........enough to compromise coverage.

Runner
09-12-2009, 07:26 PM
You might want to correct those stats...15 receptions?

Andre Johnson: ~100 yards per catch.

Wow! Andre Johnson: 1500 yds. per game. :fans:

He was a fantasy league monster.

BigBull17
09-12-2009, 08:39 PM
That was not Nnamdi ..it was the Raiders defensive scheme. Asomugha was on Andre less than half of the game.

That was more of us expecting Nnambi to coverhim alot, so we left Dre out of the game plan. Dumb move.

WhiteShoeWillie
09-13-2009, 03:31 PM
http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=48147

Silver Oak
09-13-2009, 03:57 PM
can I change my vote?

:bag:

imatexan
09-13-2009, 05:05 PM
Andre did not get shut down at all.

Kubiak did not give him a chance to get shut down.

WhiteShoeWillie
09-13-2009, 05:53 PM
Andre did not get shut down at all.

Kubiak did not give him a chance to get shut down.

Call it whatever you want. He was shut down.

gtexan02
09-13-2009, 05:54 PM
I guess the answer was "yes"

Vinny
09-13-2009, 05:55 PM
Call it whatever you want. He was shut down.yep, De Nile isn't just a river in Egypt.

Porky
09-13-2009, 06:17 PM
Question asked and answered. :backsout:

l_j_r
09-14-2009, 08:05 AM
... it definitely helped having jenkins as a monster in the middle leading continuous pressure against schaub ... and very limited time of possession and opportunities for the texans offense ...

... but ...

... that being said AJ was invisible ...

... revis gets an A+ for his performance yesterday ...





l_j_r

thunderkyss
09-14-2009, 08:31 AM
on the telecast, they don't show what's going on beyond the LOS. Revis Didn't put the lockdown on AJ any more than any other corner has in the past. Revis IMHO scared the crap out of Shaub, and he didn't want to test your secondary until it was too late.

So, I think Revis shut Schaub down, more than he shut AJ down.

l_j_r
09-14-2009, 08:36 AM
on the telecast, they don't show what's going on beyond the LOS. Revis Didn't put the lockdown on AJ any more than any other corner has in the past. Revis IMHO scared the crap out of Shaub, and he didn't want to test your secondary until it was too late.

So, I think Revis shut Schaub down, more than he shut AJ down.


... this may very well be true ...

... if so it actually was a good decision by schaub or the coaching staff ... revis (as well as jenkins) were our greatest strengths ...

... revis will get another big test next week against randy moss & wes welker ...

... it will be interesting to see if bill belichick and tom brady challenge him ...



l_j_r

imatexan
09-14-2009, 04:02 PM
Call it whatever you want. He was shut down.

I call it how it is and AJ didnt have much a chance and when it was any where near him, he caught it as always.

WhiteShoeWillie
09-14-2009, 04:15 PM
I call it how it is and AJ didnt have much a chance and when it was any where near him, he caught it as always.

Usually when receivers aren't open they don't get the ball thrown there way. Stop trying to sugar coat it, you sound foolish.

hadaad
09-14-2009, 04:20 PM
35 yards definitely qualifies as being shut down. Whether it was all Revis or a combination of that, the pass rush, Schaub's ankle or not, it doesn't matter. Revis had primary responsibility for Johnson and Johnson was shut down. All kudos to the Jets corner.

imatexan
09-14-2009, 04:23 PM
Usually when receivers aren't open they don't get the ball thrown there way. Stop trying to sugar coat it, you sound foolish.

Only fool here is you..who do you think you are and why are you still here?

I am not sugar coating anything, our team player horrilbe and we lost.

It was not because Revis shut Andre Johnson down, our QB could barely stay on his feet and did not throw the ball down field(not to mention the terrible play calling).
It does not matter if Andre is wide open or not, he will make the catch if it is thrown near him. He has proven that throughout the years with the less that spectacular QBs he has had throwing the ball to him, yet still puting up big numbers as long as they give him a chance.

Revis did not have a chance to shut him down, he played well but no shutting down was necessary sinc they did not throw the ball to who he was defending.

WhiteShoeWillie
09-14-2009, 05:44 PM
Only fool here is you..who do you think you are and why are you still here?

I am not sugar coating anything, our team player horrilbe and we lost.

It was not because Revis shut Andre Johnson down, our QB could barely stay on his feet and did not throw the ball down field(not to mention the terrible play calling).
It does not matter if Andre is wide open or not, he will make the catch if it is thrown near him. He has proven that throughout the years with the less that spectacular QBs he has had throwing the ball to him, yet still puting up big numbers as long as they give him a chance.

Revis did not have a chance to shut him down, he played well but no shutting down was necessary sinc they did not throw the ball to who he was defending.
I'm not taking anything away from AJ, he's a great player. Obviously he would catch the ball if it was thrown to him. It wasn't, so he probably wasn't open.

I'm sure it was a combination of pressure, bracket coverage, and a great individual effort by Revis. Coach gave him a game ball for shutting down AJ.

Good luck the rest of the season. I'm sure AJ will have another great season so long as he's healthy and doesn't have to face Revis again.

Goatcheese
09-14-2009, 05:55 PM
Like everything in football there's more to it than a simple 1v1.

An excellent secondary, led by Revis, along with a vicious pass rush that constantly harassed and rattled the QB, combined with one of the best defensive schemes in modern football shut down AJ.

Wolf
09-14-2009, 05:55 PM
Revis shut down half of the field against the Texans and the Texans, well their offense shut down the other half

Texan_Bill
09-14-2009, 06:06 PM
Not having Kevin Walter, hurt. Not making excuses, but when the Jets don't really have to respect anyone else (receiver wise), or account for 4 or 5 catches for 60 yards, it makes life a lot easier.

Also, while watching a highlight show (forget which) they showed how the Jets secondary was in a 'quarter' a lot; which meant, not only was Reevis on AJ, but there was another DB always close by. They showed an attempt to AJ where AJ looks to have a step on Reevis, but then another Jet comes in from out of the picture quickly. They converged to break it up..

Okay, with all the logical BS out of the way, we got a mud hole stomped in us yesterday, and I'm still pissed about it.

Leahmic223
09-14-2009, 06:12 PM
Andre said he was DOUBLE covered a lot.

Any ways, the entire team was shut down, including the QB.

Wolf
09-14-2009, 08:42 PM
Just put CB Darrelle Revis in the Pro Bowl right now. He shadowed Johnson for almost the entire game, and get this: Johnson, who made a league-high 115 receptions last season, had only one catch after three quarters. Are you kidding me? Johnson finished with four non-descript receptions, but none of them came against Revis in man-to-man coverage. So says Revis. The Jets caught a break because Kevin Walter, the Texansí other starting receiver, didnít play. He was replaced by Andre Davis, who went into a shell after Harris blew him up early in the game. Nickel back Donald Strickland made the biggest defensive play, jarring the ball loose from Slaton on an 18-yard catch and run.



http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/jets/2009/09/grading-jets-vs-texans.html